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Les Albert
Jun 24, 2022, 2:31:15 PM6/24/22
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An interesting article in today's NY Times:
MapQuest and Other Internet Zombies, by Shira Ovide.
It's about internet programs from the 1990's that fell out of favor a
long time ago, but are still being used. An excerpt:
"More than 17 million Anericans still use MapQuest ... Ask Jeeves, a
web search engine that started before Google, still has fans ... There
is something about pioneers that shaped the early internet, lost their
cool and dominance, and essentially carved out a niche.".
You can read the article and the reasons these old programs have
persisted at,
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/21/technology/mapquest-internet-zombies.html
or https://tinyurl.com/5596jysw
Alt fan cecil-adams is a zombie and I'm posting to it with another
zombie program, Agent.
Les
MapQuest and Other Internet Zombies, by Shira Ovide.
It's about internet programs from the 1990's that fell out of favor a
long time ago, but are still being used. An excerpt:
"More than 17 million Anericans still use MapQuest ... Ask Jeeves, a
web search engine that started before Google, still has fans ... There
is something about pioneers that shaped the early internet, lost their
cool and dominance, and essentially carved out a niche.".
You can read the article and the reasons these old programs have
persisted at,
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/21/technology/mapquest-internet-zombies.html
or https://tinyurl.com/5596jysw
Alt fan cecil-adams is a zombie and I'm posting to it with another
zombie program, Agent.
Les
Cheetah99218
Jun 24, 2022, 6:06:37 PM6/24/22
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That link won't let me in without subscribing.
I'm posting everyday to another zombie (alt.binaries.humor.skewed)
using Agent and wondering how much longer that'll last.
On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 11:31:11 -0700, Les Albert <lalb...@aol.com>
wrote:
I'm posting everyday to another zombie (alt.binaries.humor.skewed)
using Agent and wondering how much longer that'll last.
On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 11:31:11 -0700, Les Albert <lalb...@aol.com>
wrote:
Les Albert
Jun 25, 2022, 12:00:20 AM6/25/22
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 15:06:30 -0700, Cheetah99218 <Degenerated@Cats>
wrote:
https://bactrimtabs.com/mapquest-and-other-internet-zombies/
or https://tinyurl.com/2p9d3z9h
Les
wrote:
>>On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 11:31:11 -0700, Les Albert <lalb...@aol.com>
>>wrote:
>>An interesting article in today's NY Times:
>>MapQuest and Other Internet Zombies, by Shira Ovide.
>>It's about internet programs from the 1990's that fell out of favor a
>>long time ago, but are still being used. An excerpt:
>>"More than 17 million Anericans still use MapQuest ... Ask Jeeves, a
>>web search engine that started before Google, still has fans ... There
>>is something about pioneers that shaped the early internet, lost their
>>cool and dominance, and essentially carved out a niche.".
>>You can read the article and the reasons these old programs have
>>persisted at,
>>https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/21/technology/mapquest-internet-zombies.html
>>or https://tinyurl.com/5596jysw
>>Alt fan cecil-adams is a zombie and I'm posting to it with another
>>zombie program, Agent.
>>Les
>That link won't let me in without subscribing.
>I'm posting everyday to another zombie (alt.binaries.humor.skewed)
>using Agent and wondering how much longer that'll last.
Here's the article at another website:
>>wrote:
>>An interesting article in today's NY Times:
>>MapQuest and Other Internet Zombies, by Shira Ovide.
>>It's about internet programs from the 1990's that fell out of favor a
>>long time ago, but are still being used. An excerpt:
>>"More than 17 million Anericans still use MapQuest ... Ask Jeeves, a
>>web search engine that started before Google, still has fans ... There
>>is something about pioneers that shaped the early internet, lost their
>>cool and dominance, and essentially carved out a niche.".
>>You can read the article and the reasons these old programs have
>>persisted at,
>>https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/21/technology/mapquest-internet-zombies.html
>>or https://tinyurl.com/5596jysw
>>Alt fan cecil-adams is a zombie and I'm posting to it with another
>>zombie program, Agent.
>>Les
>That link won't let me in without subscribing.
>I'm posting everyday to another zombie (alt.binaries.humor.skewed)
>using Agent and wondering how much longer that'll last.
https://bactrimtabs.com/mapquest-and-other-internet-zombies/
or https://tinyurl.com/2p9d3z9h
Les
Kerr-Mudd, John
Jun 25, 2022, 4:23:14 AM6/25/22
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On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 15:06:30 -0700
Cheetah99218 <Degenerated@Cats> wrote:
> That link won't let me in without subscribing.
> I'm posting everyday to another zombie (alt.binaries.humor.skewed)
> using Agent and wondering how much longer that'll last.
>
I got in, but it doesn't mention many more; not even MySpace.
Cheetah99218 <Degenerated@Cats> wrote:
> That link won't let me in without subscribing.
> I'm posting everyday to another zombie (alt.binaries.humor.skewed)
> using Agent and wondering how much longer that'll last.
>
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 11:31:11 -0700, Les Albert <lalb...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >An interesting article in today's NY Times:
> >MapQuest and Other Internet Zombies, by Shira Ovide.
> >
> >It's about internet programs from the 1990's that fell out of favor a
> >long time ago, but are still being used. An excerpt:
> >"More than 17 million Anericans still use MapQuest ... Ask Jeeves, a
> >web search engine that started before Google, still has fans ... There
> >is something about pioneers that shaped the early internet, lost their
> >cool and dominance, and essentially carved out a niche.".
> >
> >You can read the article and the reasons these old programs have
> >persisted at,
> >https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/21/technology/mapquest-internet-zombies.html
> >or https://tinyurl.com/5596jysw
> >
> >Alt fan cecil-adams is a zombie and I'm posting to it with another
> >zombie program, Agent.
> >
> >Les
Bah, and indeed Humbug.
Bob
Jun 25, 2022, 11:06:55 AM6/25/22
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Les Albert
Jun 25, 2022, 12:54:46 PM6/25/22
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 08:06:53 -0700 (PDT), Bob <rob...@bestweb.net>
wrote:
Back in 1991 I subscribed to Delphi, which I believe was the first
internet access program. We used a search engine called Gopher, but
there were also others at that time. Here is an article about those
early search engines:
"Archie, Veronica, and other early search engines -
Veronica, a service from the University of Nevada System Computing
Services that tried to provide Archie-style searches for plain text
files. An even bigger advance was Gopher, which made it possible to
search through online databases and text files. With Archie, you
really had to have a clue that a file was somewhere on a given site.
With Gopher, you could simply search and let the server worry about
finding which site had the information you wanted.
While Gopher was being built in 1991, the Web was also being created.
By 1993, just as Gopher reached its maturity, I thought the first real
Internet search engine, WAIS (Wide Area Information System), was going
to be more important than the Web! I was putting the cart before the
horse. WAIS, like Archie, Veronica, and Gopher, exist now only as
Internet historical trivia." -
"https://www.hpe.com/us/en/insights/articles/how-search-worked-before-google-1703.html
Les
wrote:
internet access program. We used a search engine called Gopher, but
there were also others at that time. Here is an article about those
early search engines:
"Archie, Veronica, and other early search engines -
Veronica, a service from the University of Nevada System Computing
Services that tried to provide Archie-style searches for plain text
files. An even bigger advance was Gopher, which made it possible to
search through online databases and text files. With Archie, you
really had to have a clue that a file was somewhere on a given site.
With Gopher, you could simply search and let the server worry about
finding which site had the information you wanted.
While Gopher was being built in 1991, the Web was also being created.
By 1993, just as Gopher reached its maturity, I thought the first real
Internet search engine, WAIS (Wide Area Information System), was going
to be more important than the Web! I was putting the cart before the
horse. WAIS, like Archie, Veronica, and Gopher, exist now only as
Internet historical trivia." -
"https://www.hpe.com/us/en/insights/articles/how-search-worked-before-google-1703.html
Les
Kerr-Mudd, John
Jun 25, 2022, 1:18:45 PM6/25/22
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Les Albert
Jun 25, 2022, 1:57:34 PM6/25/22
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Still Relevant?". Gopher was a pain-in-the-ass to use, and did not
provide complete information about whatever one was searching for.
I'm amazed that there are still people who may find it useful.
I think it belongs to those who still play 8k DOS based games
(confession: I still use a DOS based data-base program that I think
can still outperform any other data-base, InfoSelect from Micro
Logic).
Les
Kerr-Mudd, John
Jun 25, 2022, 4:51:22 PM6/25/22
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 10:57:26 -0700
8k??? 256 bytes will do! see pouet & other extreme coding (OK, it's mostly graphics "intros") competitions.
Les Albert
Jun 25, 2022, 6:01:31 PM6/25/22
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 21:51:20 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
Maybe I misunderstood back then, but I remember reading about guys who
were considered amazing because they could fashion a game in 8k
(I think they all went into computer repair ... or maybe plumbing).
I was not much of a game player; even from the earliest days I used a
computer mostly for information gathering and record keeping
(confession #2: I will sometimes run Sim Earth, the planet simulator,
using DosBox.).
Les
were considered amazing because they could fashion a game in 8k
(I think they all went into computer repair ... or maybe plumbing).
I was not much of a game player; even from the earliest days I used a
computer mostly for information gathering and record keeping
(confession #2: I will sometimes run Sim Earth, the planet simulator,
using DosBox.).
Les
Kerr-Mudd, John
Jun 26, 2022, 4:06:31 AM6/26/22
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 15:01:24 -0700
Les Albert <lalb...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 21:51:20 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
> <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> >On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 10:57:26 -0700
> >Les Albert <lalb...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 18:18:45 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
> >> <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> >> >On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 09:54:42 -0700
> >> >Les Albert <lalb...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 08:06:53 -0700 (PDT), Bob <rob...@bestweb.net>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 2:31:15 PM UTC-4, Les wrote:
>
[]
> On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 21:51:20 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
> <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> >On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 10:57:26 -0700
> >Les Albert <lalb...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 18:18:45 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
> >> <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> >> >On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 09:54:42 -0700
> >> >Les Albert <lalb...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 08:06:53 -0700 (PDT), Bob <rob...@bestweb.net>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 2:31:15 PM UTC-4, Les wrote:
>
> >> I think it belongs to those who still play 8k DOS based games
> >> (confession: I still use a DOS based data-base program that I think
> >> can still outperform any other data-base, InfoSelect from Micro
> >> Logic).
>
> >8k??? 256 bytes will do! see pouet & other extreme coding (OK, it's mostly graphics "intros") competitions.
>
>
> Maybe I misunderstood back then, but I remember reading about guys who
> were considered amazing because they could fashion a game in 8k
> (I think they all went into computer repair ... or maybe plumbing).
> I was not much of a game player; even from the earliest days I used a
> computer mostly for information gathering and record keeping
> (confession #2: I will sometimes run Sim Earth, the planet simulator,
> using DosBox.).
>
No 8k's great!, 256 bytes is amazing.
> >> (confession: I still use a DOS based data-base program that I think
> >> can still outperform any other data-base, InfoSelect from Micro
> >> Logic).
>
> >8k??? 256 bytes will do! see pouet & other extreme coding (OK, it's mostly graphics "intros") competitions.
>
>
> Maybe I misunderstood back then, but I remember reading about guys who
> were considered amazing because they could fashion a game in 8k
> (I think they all went into computer repair ... or maybe plumbing).
> I was not much of a game player; even from the earliest days I used a
> computer mostly for information gathering and record keeping
> (confession #2: I will sometimes run Sim Earth, the planet simulator,
> using DosBox.).
>
N Jill Marsh
Aug 7, 2022, 11:18:12 AM8/7/22
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 09:23:12 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
<ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 15:06:30 -0700
>Cheetah99218 <Degenerated@Cats> wrote:
>
>> That link won't let me in without subscribing.
>> I'm posting everyday to another zombie (alt.binaries.humor.skewed)
>> using Agent and wondering how much longer that'll last.
>
>I got in, but it doesn't mention many more; not even MySpace.
MySpace has had something of a resurgence, mostly as a space for indie
<ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 15:06:30 -0700
>Cheetah99218 <Degenerated@Cats> wrote:
>
>> That link won't let me in without subscribing.
>> I'm posting everyday to another zombie (alt.binaries.humor.skewed)
>> using Agent and wondering how much longer that'll last.
>
>I got in, but it doesn't mention many more; not even MySpace.
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