Miep Gies pronunciation
Opus the Penguin
Actually, I didn't even know she was a she. I mentioned that "he" died
to the wife and daughter a few days back. The daughter said she thought
Miep was a woman. I said I didn't think so.
So I want to let the daughter know she was right and I was wrong
because she loves it when that happens. And when I do that, I want to
pronounce the name correctly instead of sounding as though Dr Bunsen
Honeydew has asked me to hold two cables for just a minute while he
adjusts the power.
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bill van
Miep rhymes with beep; Gies rhymes with peace. All the consonants are
pronounced how you'd expect, except for the G, which is soft.
bill
Les Albert
Go here:
www.acapela-group.com/text-to-speech-interactive-demo.html
Select Dutch (NL) as the voice, and type her name in the box.
Les
("Wojahowicz, you spell it just like it sounds.")
Opus the Penguin
But then it contradicts bill van who said the G would be soft. The G
sounds closer to the ch in Bach than anything else.
bill van
Opus the Penguin <opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Les Albert (lalb...@aol.com) wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:57:18 +0000 (UTC), Opus the Penguin
> > <opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>So Miep Gies died and I don't even know how to pronounce her name.
> >>Actually, I didn't even know she was a she. I mentioned that "he"
> >>died to the wife and daughter a few days back. The daughter said
> >>she thought Miep was a woman. I said I didn't think so.
> >>So I want to let the daughter know she was right and I was wrong
> >>because she loves it when that happens. And when I do that, I want
> >>to pronounce the name correctly instead of sounding as though Dr
> >>Bunsen Honeydew has asked me to hold two cables for just a minute
> >>while he adjusts the power.
> >
> > Go here:
> >
> > www.acapela-group.com/text-to-speech-interactive-demo.html
> >
> > Select Dutch (NL) as the voice, and type her name in the box.
>
> But then it contradicts bill van who said the G would be soft. The G
> sounds closer to the ch in Bach than anything else.
The available voices on that site have slightly different
pronunciations. But the G in Gies does resemble the ch in Bach or in a
Scottish och, which to my ear is much softer than the G in goose.
bill
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In article <Xns9D0164C86ADCAop...@192.168.1.106>,
The Fark head line read "Miep Gies dead at 100; Beaker unconsolable"
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Nasti J
wrote:
> So I want to let the daughter know she was right and I was wrong
> because she loves it when that happens. And when I do that, I want to
> pronounce the name correctly instead of sounding as though Dr Bunsen
> Honeydew has asked me to hold two cables for just a minute while he
> adjusts the power.
This Beeb reporter gives the last name sort of a "K" inflection - Miep
Giese = Meep Keese
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8455313.stm
njg
Hactar
In German that's a back ch, like the ch in "loch". Is that the same
sound that's supposed to be at both ends of "Gogh"? A (German) front ch
is like the ch in "ich", which is closer to (English) sh or (German) sch.
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Les Albert
<opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Les Albert (lalb...@aol.com) wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:57:18 +0000 (UTC), Opus the Penguin
>> <opusthepen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>So Miep Gies died and I don't even know how to pronounce her name.
>>>Actually, I didn't even know she was a she. I mentioned that "he"
>>>died to the wife and daughter a few days back. The daughter said
>>>she thought Miep was a woman. I said I didn't think so.
>>>So I want to let the daughter know she was right and I was wrong
>>>because she loves it when that happens. And when I do that, I want
>>>to pronounce the name correctly instead of sounding as though Dr
>>>Bunsen Honeydew has asked me to hold two cables for just a minute
>>>while he adjusts the power.
>> Go here:
>> www.acapela-group.com/text-to-speech-interactive-demo.html
>> Select Dutch (NL) as the voice, and type her name in the box.
>But then it contradicts bill van who said the G would be soft. The G
>sounds closer to the ch in Bach than anything else.
Maybe when Bill Van speaks Dutch he talks funny.
Les
(You pay your money and you make your choice.)
Les Albert
Now you are getting him all confused. He wants exact, definitive, no
more questions asked, end of story answers to his questions.
Les
John Hatpin
> Go here:
>
> www.acapela-group.com/text-to-speech-interactive-demo.html
>
> Select Dutch (NL) as the voice, and type her name in the box.
How useful. Thanks for the URL.
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Les Albert
<RemoveThi...@gmailAndThisToo.com> wrote:
>Les Albert wrote:
>> Go here:
>> www.acapela-group.com/text-to-speech-interactive-demo.html
>> Select Dutch (NL) as the voice, and type her name in the box.
>How useful. Thanks for the URL.
De nada. I think it is a useful site, and am saving it.
Les
Opus the Penguin
Gotcha. You weren't wrong, then; I just wasn't understanding.
I should've known better than to go up against an editor. You guys
are sharp.
bill van
<d04a8d8f-4324-47b2...@21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
Nasti J <njgi...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think she's attempting the soft G but struggles a bit on the first
try. She does better later in the item.
bill
bill van
wrote:
Loch and Van Gogh are very close. The "ch" sound occurs in Dutch as
well, and is pronounced the same way as the G. There are variations; I
recall that the German "ich" and the Dutch "ik" sound very similar to
each other in close proximity to the Dutch-German border. Or did,
decades ago. I think communications and transportation since the 1950s
have tended to homogenize European languages.
bill
bill van
Les Albert <lalb...@aol.com> wrote:
True, without a doubt. When my family emigrated, I spoke a local dialect
that has probably disappeared in the last half century. I've forgotten
quite a bit of the vocabulary I had then, and I'm no longer used to
forming those sounds. I'd probably sound like a dimwitted hick.
bill
bill van
David Skinner
RemoveThi...@gmailAndThisToo.com says...
> How useful. Thanks for the URL.
I think I'm in love with Swedish Elin.
Snidely
> In article <2m3727-b5c....@pc.home>, ebenZERO...@verizon.net (Hactar)
> wrote:
> > In German that's a back ch, like the ch in "loch". Is that the same
> > sound that's supposed to be at both ends of "Gogh"? A (German) front ch
> > is like the ch in "ich", which is closer to (English) sh or (German) sch.
>
>
> Loch and Van Gogh are very close. The "ch" sound occurs in Dutch as
> well, and is pronounced the same way as the G. There are variations; I
> recall that the German "ich" and the Dutch "ik" sound very similar to
> each other in close proximity to the Dutch-German border. Or did,
> decades ago. I think communications and transportation since the 1950s
> have tended to homogenize European languages.
My training in German was that in the south (Bavaria? Saxony?), one
said "ish" (to anglicize the orthography) and in the north one said
"ik". I also recall that the Saxons used some dialectical terms in
place of otherwise common ones (although I can't remember any of the
examples). I'm looking forward to Mike Muth posting some updated
research.
/dps
John Hatpin
That's only because she'll say what you want her to say.
John Hatpin
My understanding is somewhat similar. I was taught to say a kind of
soft version of "ik", as in the Scots pronunciation of "loch", and was
surprised to hear my kids, having had lessons, say "ish"; the
geographic differences were explained by a friend's German wife.
Bill Turlock
See! I was gonna guess "meep".
Bill "meep" Turlock
Bill Turlock
In Viet Nam, "Saigon" was Saigon in the south and Shaigon in the
north.
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