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Mark Brader

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Oct 30, 2014, 2:39:47 PM10/30/14
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If Wikipedia is correct, the mini-melody "Shave and a Haircut, Two Bits"
goes back to at least 1899. As overseas readers may or may not know,
"two bits" means 25 cents.

What *did* US barbers typically charge for a shave and a haircut in
the 1890s? My last haircut was $20 (Canadian, tax included).
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Howard

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Oct 30, 2014, 4:58:40 PM10/30/14
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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote in news:

> If Wikipedia is correct, the mini-melody "Shave and a Haircut,
> Two Bits" goes back to at least 1899. As overseas readers may
> or may not know,
> "two bits" means 25 cents.
>
> What *did* US barbers typically charge for a shave and a haircut in
> the 1890s? My last haircut was $20 (Canadian, tax included).

I don't know about typical, but here's a list of prices for a barber in
St. Martinsville LA in 1900 (bottom right):

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88064454/1900-02-17/ed-1/seq-1/

In Kinsely KS in 1898, a shave was 10 cents and a haircut was 25 cents
(bottom of the page):

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn84029671/1898-07-01/ed-1/seq-4/

In Waco TX in 1894, a shave was 10 cents and a haircut was 25 cents
(column 2):

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn86088201/1894-04-20/ed-1/seq-8/

So a shave and a haircut for two bits may have been a bargain back then.

bobel...@gmail.com

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Oct 30, 2014, 7:56:44 PM10/30/14
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On Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:39:47 AM UTC-7, Mark Brader wrote:
> If Wikipedia is correct, the mini-melody "Shave and a Haircut, Two Bits"
> goes back to at least 1899. As overseas readers may or may not know,
> "two bits" means 25 cents.
>
> What *did* US barbers typically charge for a shave and a haircut in
> the 1890s? My last haircut was $20 (Canadian, tax included).


I remember learning it as "six bits" (late 50's), I don't remember ever hearing it rendered as "two bits".

--Bob

bobel...@gmail.com

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Oct 30, 2014, 7:58:37 PM10/30/14
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...and I just remembered the follow-up line:

"Who's the barber? Tom Mix!"

I am not responsible for the rhyme-fail, just reporting historical data...

--Bob

Greg Goss

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Oct 30, 2014, 8:03:49 PM10/30/14
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m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:

>If Wikipedia is correct, the mini-melody "Shave and a Haircut, Two Bits"
>goes back to at least 1899. As overseas readers may or may not know,
>"two bits" means 25 cents.
>
>What *did* US barbers typically charge for a shave and a haircut in
>the 1890s? My last haircut was $20 (Canadian, tax included).

I'm a price-sensitive shopper. Yesterday's was CAD$19, tax included.
The earliest I remember was in the late sixties for $2.

It took longer than it should have for me to connect "two bits" with
the break-off pieces of the Spanish real ("pieces of eight"), which
was interchangeable with the US dollar for a long time.
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Greg Goss

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Oct 30, 2014, 9:09:00 PM10/30/14
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To me it's always been "two bits".

Hactar

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Oct 30, 2014, 10:08:03 PM10/30/14
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In article <f001f6b4-77c9-49ce...@googlegroups.com>,
Inflation.

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Bill Turlock

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Oct 30, 2014, 10:57:20 PM10/30/14
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Hi Bob!

I still mourn my Wurlitzer 1015

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Mark Brader

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Oct 31, 2014, 2:47:23 AM10/31/14
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Mark Brader:
>> What *did* US barbers typically charge for a shave and a haircut in
>> the 1890s? My last haircut was $20 (Canadian, tax included).

"Howard":
> I don't know about typical, but...
...
> So a shave and a haircut for two bits may have been a bargain back then.

Looks that way. Thanks for the data.
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Jack Campin

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Oct 31, 2014, 4:06:24 AM10/31/14
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> If Wikipedia is correct, the mini-melody "Shave and a Haircut, Two Bits"
> goes back to at least 1899. As overseas readers may or may not know,
> "two bits" means 25 cents.

My mother (born near London in 1914 and brought up there) used to sing
"bombs and bananas, fried chips" which I suppose has to be from the UK
during WW2.

Any other lyrics for it?

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Jeff Wisnia

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May 14, 2015, 12:22:51 PM5/14/15
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bobel...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 4:56:44 PM UTC-7, bobel...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:39:47 AM UTC-7, Mark Brader wrote:
>>> If Wikipedia is correct, the mini-melody "Shave and a Haircut, Two Bits"
>>> goes back to at least 1899. As overseas readers may or may not know,
>>> "two bits" means 25 cents.
>>>
>>> What *did* US barbers typically charge for a shave and a haircut in
>>> the 1890s? My last haircut was $20 (Canadian, tax included).
>>
>>
>> I remember learning it as "six bits" (late 50's), I don't remember ever hearing it rendered as "two bits".
>>
>
> ...and I just remembered the follow-up line:
>
> "Who's the barber? Tom Mix!"

Shouldn't that be "Who is the barber? Tom Mix"

To keep the, "Knock....knock knock knock knock....knock knock", rhythm
correct?

Jeff

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Bill Turlock

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May 14, 2015, 1:32:02 PM5/14/15
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On Thu, 14 May 2015 12:22:49 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
<Jwis...@DUMPTHIScomcast.net> wrote:

>
>
>bobel...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 4:56:44 PM UTC-7, bobel...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:39:47 AM UTC-7, Mark Brader wrote:
>>>> If Wikipedia is correct, the mini-melody "Shave and a Haircut, Two Bits"
>>>> goes back to at least 1899. As overseas readers may or may not know,
>>>> "two bits" means 25 cents.
>>>>
>>>> What *did* US barbers typically charge for a shave and a haircut in
>>>> the 1890s? My last haircut was $20 (Canadian, tax included).
>>>
>>>
>>> I remember learning it as "six bits" (late 50's), I don't remember ever hearing it rendered as "two bits".
>>>
>>
>> ...and I just remembered the follow-up line:
>>
>> "Who's the barber? Tom Mix!"
>
>Shouldn't that be "Who is the barber? Tom Mix"
>
>To keep the, "Knock....knock knock knock knock....knock knock", rhythm
>correct?
>
>Jeff


Yes

bobel...@gmail.com

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May 14, 2015, 8:37:48 PM5/14/15
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No.

Puts too much emphasis on "is", the "Who's" may comfortably be carried for one-and-a-half beats. See, I've thought this through.

--Bob
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