Sta-bil abuse
Neal Eckhardt
winterize out various power things. Surprisingly, you are required to
be 18 years old to buy Sta-bil. I asked why that was, and the cashier
had no clue.
So for the not-so-clueless here, anybody have any f*cking idea why
this is? A quick Google search of "Sta-bil abuse" came up empty. Well,
not really empty, but not about what I actually wanted to find out.
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Lee Ayrton
> I went to Wally-Mart and bought some Sta-bil gas stabilizer to
> winterize out various power things. Surprisingly, you are required to
> be 18 years old to buy Sta-bil. I asked why that was, and the cashier
> had no clue.
>
> So for the not-so-clueless here, anybody have any f*cking idea why
> this is? A quick Google search of "Sta-bil abuse" came up empty. Well,
> not really empty, but not about what I actually wanted to find out.
I can't find a good reason for it to be restricted either. Here's what
the feds says about it:
http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&id=7006001
Low risk of inhalation, low toxicity if ingested. But Google returns many
hits from people complaining that they were carded by Wal*Mart before
allowing the sale to go through. One example:
http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/open-forums/376054-sta-bil-fuel-additive.html
"[...] MADE me show my ID. I asked her why!! She said that I had to be at
least 18 to buy it. I'm like okay so what are the kids doing with this
huffing it? She looked at me and said NO they make meth with it sir."
Perhaps it is a blanket corporate thing.
On a similar note, I was carded at Home Depot when I bought some Liquid
Tape. The cashier said it was to prevent minors from huffing the solvent
in the plastic. We agreed that we were old enough to want to kill as few
brain cells as possible.
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> So for the not-so-clueless here, anybody have any f*cking idea why
> this is? A quick Google search of "Sta-bil abuse" came up empty. Well,
> not really empty, but not about what I actually wanted to find out.
Huffing, perhaps? I saw an episode of Intervention a few weeks ago,
where this girl was huffing those canned air things... It looked pretty
bad. But wouldn't breathing anything heavier than air going to produce
the same effect? It would basically deprive you of oxygen, and then
cause the euphoric dizzy feeling.
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Paul Ciszek
In article <Pine.NEB.4.64.08...@panix2.panix.com>,
Lee Ayrton <lay...@panix.com> wrote:
>hits from people complaining that they were carded by Wal*Mart before
>allowing the sale to go through. One example:
>
>http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/open-forums/376054-sta-bil-fuel-additive.html
>
>"[...] MADE me show my ID. I asked her why!! She said that I had to be at
>least 18 to buy it. I'm like okay so what are the kids doing with this
>huffing it? She looked at me and said NO they make meth with it sir."
And people over 18 never make meth?
I know I sure wouldn't want to trust a chemical synthesis performed by
anyone under 30.
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Lars Eighner
lovely and talented Neal Eckhardt broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
> I went to Wally-Mart and bought some Sta-bil gas stabilizer to
> winterize out various power things. Surprisingly, you are required to
> be 18 years old to buy Sta-bil. I asked why that was, and the cashier
> had no clue.
From your description of the product, it sounds to me like it contains
ingredients which would be in the class of volatile solvents which are often
abused as inhalents. I don't know whether they have got around to enacting
a federal law about these things, but there used to be such a patchwork
of ordnances and state laws regulating such things that national chain
stores adopted policies about such products, rather than deploying teams of
laws to determine which stores fell under which laws. So there may or may
not be a law that applies to this particular product in this particular
store. In many places it would be a judgment call in a Mom-and-Pop store,
but as cash registers got smarter and clerks got dumber, the business of
enforcing such restrictions was left up to the cash register.
> So for the not-so-clueless here, anybody have any f*cking idea why
> this is? A quick Google search of "Sta-bil abuse" came up empty. Well,
> not really empty, but not about what I actually wanted to find out.
Try 'inhalent abuse.' Some of the ingredients are so widely used that there
probably is not a comprehensive list of tradenames of products which contain
the ingredients of concern.
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Lee Ayrton
> In article <Pine.NEB.4.64.08...@panix2.panix.com>,
> Lee Ayrton <lay...@panix.com> wrote:
>> hits from people complaining that they were carded by Wal*Mart before
>> allowing the sale to go through. One example:
>>
>> http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/open-forums/376054-sta-bil-fuel-additive.html
>>
>> "[...] MADE me show my ID. I asked her why!! She said that I had to be at
>> least 18 to buy it. I'm like okay so what are the kids doing with this
>> huffing it? She looked at me and said NO they make meth with it sir."
>
> And people over 18 never make meth?
Heh. The next line at the forum cited above was "I'm like really so it is
okay to make meth if I'm over 18"
> I know I sure wouldn't want to trust a chemical synthesis performed by
> anyone under 30.
Wasn't Abbie's advice the opposite?
Lee Ayrton
> In our last episode, <6m2rb4tb5b4hn3d0h...@4ax.com>, the
> lovely and talented Neal Eckhardt broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
>
>> I went to Wally-Mart and bought some Sta-bil gas stabilizer to
>> winterize out various power things. Surprisingly, you are required to
>> be 18 years old to buy Sta-bil. I asked why that was, and the cashier
>> had no clue.
>
> From your description of the product, it sounds to me like it contains
> ingredients which would be in the class of volatile solvents which are often
> abused as inhalents. I don't know whether they have got around to enacting
Google is not being supportive right now, but my SWAG would be that since
certain gasoline antifreeze additives can be used in meth labs Walmart
simply made a blanket requirement for ID for all gasoline additive
purchases, regardless of their chemical content.
D.F. Manno
nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) wrote:
> Lee Ayrton <lay...@panix.com> wrote:
>
> >hits from people complaining that they were carded by Wal*Mart before
> >allowing the sale to go through. One example:
> >
> >http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/open-forums/376054-sta-bil-fuel-additive.htm
> >l
> >
> >"[...] MADE me show my ID. I asked her why!! She said that I had to be at
> >least 18 to buy it. I'm like okay so what are the kids doing with this
> >huffing it? She looked at me and said NO they make meth with it sir."
>
> And people over 18 never make meth?
Presumably the idea is to record the person's information so the
purchase could be traced back if desired.
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the lovely and talented Lee Ayrton broadcast on alt.fan.cecil-adams:
This meth fighting is getting to be a real pain. I wish the meth lab that
used to be across the courtyard were still there. Then I could get Sudafed
from those guys at any hour of the day or night.
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Paul Ciszek
In article <Pine.NEB.4.64.08...@panix2.panix.com>,
Lee Ayrton <lay...@panix.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Paul Ciszek wrote:
>
>> I know I sure wouldn't want to trust a chemical synthesis performed by
>> anyone under 30.
>
>Wasn't Abbie's advice the opposite?
Yeah, well Abbie's dead.
Lee Ayrton
> In article <Pine.NEB.4.64.08...@panix2.panix.com>,
> Lee Ayrton <lay...@panix.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Paul Ciszek wrote:
>>
>>> I know I sure wouldn't want to trust a chemical synthesis performed by
>>> anyone under 30.
>>
>> Wasn't Abbie's advice the opposite?
>
> Yeah, well Abbie's dead.
Good point. Bring on the elderly clandestine chemists!
Greg Goss
>In article <g9k4r9$emo$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
> nos...@nospam.com (Paul Ciszek) wrote:
>
>> Lee Ayrton <lay...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>> >hits from people complaining that they were carded by Wal*Mart before
>> >allowing the sale to go through. One example:
>> >
>> >http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/open-forums/376054-sta-bil-fuel-additive.htm
>> >l
>> >
>> >"[...] MADE me show my ID. I asked her why!! She said that I had to be at
>> >least 18 to buy it. I'm like okay so what are the kids doing with this
>> >huffing it? She looked at me and said NO they make meth with it sir."
>>
>> And people over 18 never make meth?
>
>Presumably the idea is to record the person's information so the
>purchase could be traced back if desired.
Is the ID recorded, or just examined?
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> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Neal Eckhardt wrote:
>
> > I went to Wally-Mart and bought some Sta-bil gas stabilizer to
> > winterize out various power things. Surprisingly, you are required to
> > be 18 years old to buy Sta-bil. I asked why that was, and the cashier
> > had no clue.
> >
> > So for the not-so-clueless here, anybody have any f*cking idea why
> > this is? A quick Google search of "Sta-bil abuse" came up empty. Well,
> > not really empty, but not about what I actually wanted to find out.
>
> I can't find a good reason for it to be restricted either. Here's what
> the feds says about it:
>
> http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&
> id=7006001
>
> Low risk of inhalation, low toxicity if ingested.
I think that just means accidental/incidental inhalation. I don't the MSDS
is meant to address intentional huffing.
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Mikko Peltoniemi <mikk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Neal Eckhardt wrote:
>
> > So for the not-so-clueless here, anybody have any f*cking idea why
> > this is? A quick Google search of "Sta-bil abuse" came up empty. Well,
> > not really empty, but not about what I actually wanted to find out.
>
> Huffing, perhaps? I saw an episode of Intervention a few weeks ago,
> where this girl was huffing those canned air things... It looked pretty
> bad. But wouldn't breathing anything heavier than air going to produce
> the same effect? It would basically deprive you of oxygen, and then
> cause the euphoric dizzy feeling.
Worse, heavier-than-air gases are harder to clear from your lungs,
especially if you're unconscious and breathing shallowly.
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Neal Eckhardt
In my case, being obviously over 18, I showed nothing.
M. Shirley Chong
> On a similar note, I was carded at Home Depot when I bought some Liquid
> Tape. The cashier said it was to prevent minors from huffing the
> solvent in the plastic. We agreed that we were old enough to want to
> kill as few brain cells as possible.
I keep trying to kill off the memories of junior high and high
school but those little fuckers are either incredibly durable or
incredibly lucky.
Shirley "never say die!"
Neal Eckhardt
wrote:
Well, I finally got the answer. It took Gold Eagle (the manufacturer)
a couple of days to research this since they kinda scratched their
heads when I first asked about it. The sales person for the Wal-mart
account contacted his buyer, and this is what he found out. Some
states have laws providing age requirements to buy certain classes of
fuel additives and they have it broken down into several classes.
Sta-bil falls into one of the categories that "some" states restricts
the sale by age. Since each state is different, it appears they just
take the most restrictive view of a product, and apply it country
wide.
No mention of making meth though. I guess Sudafed and Sta-bil can be
easily confused since they both start with "S" and they are red.
Hactar
Neal Eckhardt <neck...@penntraffic.nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Neal Eckhardt wrote:
> >
> >> I went to Wally-Mart and bought some Sta-bil gas stabilizer to
> >> winterize out various power things. Surprisingly, you are required to
> >> be 18 years old to buy Sta-bil. I asked why that was, and the cashier
> >> had no clue.
>
> a couple of days to research this since they kinda scratched their
> heads when I first asked about it. The sales person for the Wal-mart
> account contacted his buyer, and this is what he found out. Some
> states have laws providing age requirements to buy certain classes of
> fuel additives and they have it broken down into several classes.
> Sta-bil falls into one of the categories that "some" states restricts
> the sale by age. Since each state is different, it appears they just
> take the most restrictive view of a product, and apply it country
> wide.
>
> No mention of making meth though. I guess Sudafed and Sta-bil can be
> easily confused since they both start with "S" and they are red.
This is a good reason not to shop at Wally World -- you might be carded
when it makes even less sense than usual.
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> In article <gde0c4d7pu1pcc1un...@4ax.com>,
> Neal Eckhardt <neck...@penntraffic.nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Neal Eckhardt wrote:
>> >
>> >> I went to Wally-Mart and bought some Sta-bil gas stabilizer to
>> >> winterize out various power things. Surprisingly, you are required to
>> >> be 18 years old to buy Sta-bil. I asked why that was, and the cashier
>> >> had no clue.
>>
>> Well, I finally got the answer. It took Gold Eagle (the manufacturer)
>> a couple of days to research this since they kinda scratched their
>> heads when I first asked about it. The sales person for the Wal-mart
>> account contacted his buyer, and this is what he found out. Some
>> states have laws providing age requirements to buy certain classes of
>> fuel additives and they have it broken down into several classes.
>> Sta-bil falls into one of the categories that "some" states restricts
>> the sale by age. Since each state is different, it appears they just
>> take the most restrictive view of a product, and apply it country
>> wide.
>>
>> No mention of making meth though. I guess Sudafed and Sta-bil can be
>> easily confused since they both start with "S" and they are red.
>
> This is a good reason not to shop at Wally World -- you might be carded
> when it makes even less sense than usual.
Yeah, that fear is something I'd base my shopping habits on. <snort>
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