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Blinky the Shark

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May 16, 2008, 8:49:21 PM5/16/08
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Here's some tech I didn't know about.

Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite.

http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg


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ZBicyclist

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May 17, 2008, 9:03:20 AM5/17/08
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> Here's some tech I didn't know about.
>
> Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite.
>
> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg

Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.


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QueBarbara

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May 17, 2008, 10:19:41 AM5/17/08
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On Sat, 17 May 2008 08:03:20 -0500, "ZBicyclist"
<ZBicy...@excite.com> wrote:

>Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> Here's some tech I didn't know about.
>>
>> Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite.
>>
>> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg
>
>Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.

Yes, "reefer" is the commonly used term for refrigerated.

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Bill Bonde { ''the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack'')

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May 17, 2008, 11:36:47 AM5/17/08
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
>
> Here's some tech I didn't know about.
>
> Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite.
>
> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg
>

I think it's time for a rewrite of "East of Eden".

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spaghetti. Is that funny?"

"Hmmm, well, it depends on if by funny you want to make people

laugh."

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Bill Bonde { ''the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack'')

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May 17, 2008, 11:41:45 AM5/17/08
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Unless they are hauling cargo for the Doobie Brothers concert.

Les Albert

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May 17, 2008, 11:35:57 AM5/17/08
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On Sat, 17 May 2008 16:36:47 +0100, "Bill Bonde { ''the oblique
allusion in lieu of the frontal attack'')"
<tributyl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
>Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>
>> Here's some tech I didn't know about.
>>
>> Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite.
>>
>> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg
>>
>I think it's time for a rewrite of "East of Eden".

Everything would have been fine if the train didn't stop for hours in
the hot sun.

Les

Blinky the Shark

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May 17, 2008, 4:05:30 PM5/17/08
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ZBicyclist wrote:

> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> Here's some tech I didn't know about.
>>
>> Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite.
>>
>> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg
>
> Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.

That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of "reefers".

ZBicyclist

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May 17, 2008, 4:12:06 PM5/17/08
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> ZBicyclist wrote:
>
>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>> Here's some tech I didn't know about.
>>>
>>> Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite.
>>>
>>> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg
>>
>> Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.
>
> That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of
> "reefers".

I'd never heard "reefers" used in THAT context before. That's
today's new word for me.

Blinky the Shark

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May 17, 2008, 4:56:21 PM5/17/08
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ZBicyclist wrote:

> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> ZBicyclist wrote:
>>
>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>> Here's some tech I didn't know about.
>>>>
>>>> Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite.
>>>>
>>>> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg
>>>
>>> Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.
>>
>> That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of
>> "reefers".
>
> I'd never heard "reefers" used in THAT context before. That's
> today's new word for me.

Enjoy. :)

Greg Goss

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May 17, 2008, 4:56:06 PM5/17/08
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"ZBicyclist" <ZBicy...@excite.com> wrote:

>Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> ZBicyclist wrote:
>>
>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>> Here's some tech I didn't know about.
>>>>
>>>> Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite.
>>>>
>>>> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg
>>>
>>> Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.
>>
>> That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of
>> "reefers".
>
>I'd never heard "reefers" used in THAT context before. That's
>today's new word for me.

Back in the seventies, everyone in Rez had calendars from "Clark
Reefer Lines" a trucking company. Strange that college kids had a
thing for pictures of trucks, eh?
http://www.clarkfreightways.com/web/OurHistory.aspx
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dilbert firestorm

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May 18, 2008, 8:20:49 PM5/18/08
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> ZBicyclist wrote:
>
> > Blinky the Shark wrote:
> >> Here's some tech I didn't know about.
> >>
> >> Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite.
> >>
> >> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg
> >
> > Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.
>
> That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of "reefers".
>
>
>
how do you know its a reefer? I wouldn't know from looking at this picture.

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Tim Wright

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May 18, 2008, 8:26:34 PM5/18/08
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dilbert firestorm wrote:
> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> ZBicyclist wrote:
>>
>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>> Here's some tech I didn't know about.
>>>>
>>>> Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite.
>>>>
>>>> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg
>>> Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.
>> That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of "reefers".
>>
>>
>>
> how do you know its a reefer? I wouldn't know from looking at this picture.
>
http://iwxmf.com/ They specialize in hauling produce.

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Les Albert

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May 18, 2008, 8:30:42 PM5/18/08
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On Sun, 18 May 2008 19:20:49 -0500, dilbert firestorm
<sca...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote:
>Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> ZBicyclist wrote:
>> > Blinky the Shark wrote:

>> >> Here's some tech I didn't know about.
>> >> Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite.
>> >> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg

>> > Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.

>> That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of "reefers".

>how do you know its a reefer? I wouldn't know from looking at this picture.

Look at the right-side door. It says, "Equipped with Thermo Tracs".
Thermo Tracs is a two-way staellite communication system that tracks
and reports refrigeration status.

Les

Blinky the Shark

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May 18, 2008, 10:05:15 PM5/18/08
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dilbert firestorm wrote:

> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> ZBicyclist wrote:
>>
>> > Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> >> Here's some tech I didn't know about.
>> >>
>> >> Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite.
>> >>
>> >> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg
>> >
>> > Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.
>>
>> That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of "reefers".
>>
>>
>>
> how do you know its a reefer? I wouldn't know from looking at this picture.

If I knew, I wouldn't have said "that was my assusmption".

Greg Goss

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May 18, 2008, 11:43:44 PM5/18/08
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dilbert firestorm <sca...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote:

>Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> ZBicyclist wrote:
>>
>> > Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> >> Here's some tech I didn't know about.
>> >>
>> >> Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite.
>> >>
>> >> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg
>> >
>> > Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.
>>
>> That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of "reefers".
>>
>>
>>
>how do you know its a reefer? I wouldn't know from looking at this picture.

They probably have some kind of transponder in the truck that would
send out the appropriate information for the satellite to gather.

dilbert firestorm

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May 19, 2008, 4:25:16 AM5/19/08
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that satellite tracking part is rather obvious, but I don't think Thermo
is a dead give-a-away that the truck is refrigerated.

can...@thelast.mile

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May 19, 2008, 7:59:37 AM5/19/08
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On Sat, 17 May 2008 15:12:06 -0500, "ZBicyclist"
<ZBicy...@excite.com> wrote:

>Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> ZBicyclist wrote:
>>
>>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>>> Here's some tech I didn't know about.
>>>>
>>>> Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite.
>>>>
>>>> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg
>>>
>>> Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.
>>
>> That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of
>> "reefers".
>
>I'd never heard "reefers" used in THAT context before. That's
>today's new word for me.

They use the term a lot on those huge international cargo ships. As
in, "Are the stats up to date on the Argentinian squid reefers?"

http://www.parlms.com/reefer-trailer-tracking.htm

I saw it on one of those Discovery Channel shows.
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Greg Goss

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dilbert firestorm <sca...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote:

>Les Albert wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 May 2008 19:20:49 -0500, dilbert firestorm
>> <sca...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote:
>> >Blinky the Shark wrote:
>> >> ZBicyclist wrote:
>> >> > Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>
>> >> >> Here's some tech I didn't know about.
>> >> >> Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite.
>> >> >> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg
>>
>> >> > Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.
>>
>> >> That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of "reefers".
>>
>> >how do you know its a reefer? I wouldn't know from looking at this picture.
>>
>> Look at the right-side door. It says, "Equipped with Thermo Tracs".
>> Thermo Tracs is a two-way staellite communication system that tracks
>> and reports refrigeration status.
>>
>>

>that satellite tracking part is rather obvious, but I don't think Thermo
>is a dead give-a-away that the truck is refrigerated.

It would be to me. Thermo translates to "temperature". Since I can't
imagine any reason for something bigger than a pizza delivery
hatchback to be heated, that leaves refrigeration.

Jerry Bauer

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May 19, 2008, 10:13:06 AM5/19/08
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On Mon, 19 May 2008 04:59:37 -0700, can...@thelast.mile wrote
(in article <phq234h6851016ck0...@4ax.com>):

> "Are the stats up to date on the Argentinian squid reefers?"

They're really hard to light.


Charles Bishop

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May 19, 2008, 10:28:52 AM5/19/08
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In article <pan.2008.05.19...@thurston.blinkynet.net>, Blinky
the Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote:

>dilbert firestorm wrote:
>
>> Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>> ZBicyclist wrote:
>>>
>>> > Blinky the Shark wrote:
>>> >> Here's some tech I didn't know about.
>>> >>
>>> >> Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://blinkynet.net/stuff/thermosat.jpg
>>> >
>>> > Is that a refrigerated truck? That would make a lot of sense.
>>>
>>> That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of "reefers".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> how do you know its a reefer? I wouldn't know from looking at this picture.
>
>If I knew, I wouldn't have said "that was my assusmption".

So when you posted this:

"Big rig reefers temp-monitored by satellite."

We could assume you knew that it was a refrigerated truck, but when you
posted this later:

>"That was my assumption and the underlying reason for my use of

"reefers".", your surety had sufffered?

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Les Albert

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May 19, 2008, 11:16:18 AM5/19/08
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On Mon, 19 May 2008 03:25:16 -0500, dilbert firestorm
<sca...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote:


It says, "Equipped with Thermo Tracs". Thermo Tracs is a registered,
trade-marked name for a two-way staellite communication system that

xho...@gmail.com

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May 19, 2008, 1:19:13 PM5/19/08
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One might want to monitor the temperature of a shipment where the
temperature is not controlled. Probably less likely than wanting to
monitor the temperature of a shipment where it is controlled, but certainly
not out of the question.

Xho

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dilbert firestorm

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May 19, 2008, 2:19:14 PM5/19/08
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yer implying he has a brain fart? that's not nice! :)

Bob Ward

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May 19, 2008, 5:15:40 PM5/19/08
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On Mon, 19 May 2008 03:25:16 -0500, dilbert firestorm
<sca...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote:

Of course you don't - you're an idiot.

Bob Ward

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On 19 May 2008 17:19:13 GMT, xho...@gmail.com wrote:

>Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>> dilbert firestorm <sca...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote:
>> >Les Albert wrote:
>> >> Look at the right-side door. It says, "Equipped with Thermo Tracs".
>> >> Thermo Tracs is a two-way staellite communication system that tracks
>> >> and reports refrigeration status.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >that satellite tracking part is rather obvious, but I don't think Thermo
>> >is a dead give-a-away that the truck is refrigerated.
>>
>> It would be to me. Thermo translates to "temperature". Since I can't
>> imagine any reason for something bigger than a pizza delivery
>> hatchback to be heated, that leaves refrigeration.
>
>One might want to monitor the temperature of a shipment where the
>temperature is not controlled. Probably less likely than wanting to
>monitor the temperature of a shipment where it is controlled, but certainly
>not out of the question.
>
>Xho

In that case real-time monitoring would not be an issue - they have
inexpensive indicator labels that would tell the story on arrival -
like the shock-guard sensors.

xho...@gmail.com

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May 19, 2008, 6:04:31 PM5/19/08
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Bob Ward <bob...@email.com> wrote:
> On 19 May 2008 17:19:13 GMT, xho...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
> >> dilbert firestorm <sca...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote:
> >> >Les Albert wrote:
> >> >> Look at the right-side door. It says, "Equipped with Thermo
> >> >> Tracs". Thermo Tracs is a two-way staellite communication system
> >> >> that tracks and reports refrigeration status.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >that satellite tracking part is rather obvious, but I don't think
> >> >Thermo is a dead give-a-away that the truck is refrigerated.
> >>
> >> It would be to me. Thermo translates to "temperature". Since I can't
> >> imagine any reason for something bigger than a pizza delivery
> >> hatchback to be heated, that leaves refrigeration.
> >
> >One might want to monitor the temperature of a shipment where the
> >temperature is not controlled. Probably less likely than wanting to
> >monitor the temperature of a shipment where it is controlled, but
> >certainly not out of the question.
>
> In that case real-time monitoring would not be an issue - they have
> inexpensive indicator labels that would tell the story on arrival -
> like the shock-guard sensors.

Couldn't this apply to refrigerated shipments, too? I guess the shipping
and storage of indicator labels with a below-ambient set-point would be
more problematic.

But anyway, now that I think about it, I don't see what you get out of the
remote/real-time thing, regardless of whether the max allowed is room
temperature or below room temperature. What can I do about it sitting at
my computer 1500 miles away, other than call the driver and yell at him
over something he already knows and presumably can't do anything about?

Lee Ayrton

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May 19, 2008, 6:23:51 PM5/19/08
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It looks like all that they run is reefers:

http://www.iwxmf.com/

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Bob Ward

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May 19, 2008, 6:51:04 PM5/19/08
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On 19 May 2008 22:04:31 GMT, xho...@gmail.com wrote:

>
>But anyway, now that I think about it, I don't see what you get out of the
>remote/real-time thing, regardless of whether the max allowed is room
>temperature or below room temperature. What can I do about it sitting at
>my computer 1500 miles away, other than call the driver and yell at him
>over something he already knows and presumably can't do anything about?

He might not know about it, and might be able to get the reefer fixed
if he did. The computer could be set to alarm at a very small
temperature increase.

Lee Ayrton

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May 19, 2008, 7:05:23 PM5/19/08
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And since you're already sending telemetry data about the trailer and its
on-board diesel-powered refrigeration unit I can see where you might
include other error conditions, such as engine over-speed, high engine
temp, low oil pressure, low refrigerant pressure, low fuel and so on.
Really, it is limited by your sensor budget and how much bandwidth on the
bird(s) that you're willing to pay for.

Bill Turlock

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May 20, 2008, 12:26:42 AM5/20/08
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and "Thermo" is on letter less then "Thermos", which obviously
has nothing to do with hot &/or cold.

Blinky the Shark

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May 20, 2008, 1:17:36 AM5/20/08
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Bill Turlock wrote:

How do it know?

can...@thelast.mile

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May 20, 2008, 2:54:43 AM5/20/08
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On Mon, 19 May 2008 07:13:06 -0700, Jerry Bauer <use...@bauerstar.com>
wrote:

I'm glad I didn't have a mouthful of wine when I read that.

can...@thelast.mile

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May 20, 2008, 2:59:13 AM5/20/08
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On Mon, 19 May 2008 15:51:04 -0700, Bob Ward <bob...@email.com>
wrote:

No need for a computer. Just send my parents to ride along with him,
and if he so much as waves a butane lighter anywhere near the reefer,
they'll be the first to know.

dilbert firestorm

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May 20, 2008, 12:29:35 PM5/20/08
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you presume too much doofus.

dilbert firestorm

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May 20, 2008, 12:37:30 PM5/20/08
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I don't mean to be snarky. the average driver isn't going to know that
the trailer is a reefer or refrigerated just by looking from the behind.

"thermo" doesn't necessarily mean refrigerated. it may just have a vent
or fan to let outside air cool the inside to a some tempature that the
tracking device will transmit to the satellite.

the only way a driver would know its refrigerated drove up further along
the truck and sees a refrigeration unit sticking out in front of the
trailer or the trailer is clearly carrying produce, that a driver would
normally assume that the trailer is refrigerated.

Les Albert

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May 20, 2008, 1:06:27 PM5/20/08
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On Tue, 20 May 2008 11:37:30 -0500, dilbert firestorm


Not just "thermo", but the entire phrase "Equipped With Thermo Tracs"
indicates it is a refrigerated truck to the average driver. "Thermo
Tracs" is a trade-marked name for a two-way staellite communication
system that tracks and reports refrigeration status. All average
drivers know that.

Les

Bob Ward

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May 20, 2008, 1:31:05 PM5/20/08
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On Tue, 20 May 2008 11:37:30 -0500, dilbert firestorm
<sca...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote:

I'll bet most drivers won't care one way or the other.

Lee Ayrton

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May 20, 2008, 6:20:34 PM5/20/08
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On Tue, 20 May 2008, dilbert firestorm wrote:

>> It says, "Equipped with Thermo Tracs". Thermo Tracs is a registered,
>> trade-marked name for a two-way staellite communication system that
>> tracks and reports refrigeration status.
>>
>>

> I don't mean to be snarky. the average driver isn't going to know that the
> trailer is a reefer or refrigerated just by looking from the behind.
>
> "thermo" doesn't necessarily mean refrigerated. it may just have a vent or
> fan to let outside air cool the inside to a some tempature that the tracking
> device will transmit to the satellite.

A vent of fan to let in outside cool air? You've never been in the back
of a box truck, have you.

Snidely

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May 20, 2008, 6:55:59 PM5/20/08
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On May 18, 8:43 pm, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
> >how do you know its a reefer? I wouldn't know from looking at this picture.

Yeah, technically you (DF) are right, only the labels have a hint.
You have to pull up to the front of the truck to look for the actual
cooling unit and/or fuel tank. The clearance bar/bumper doesn't show
one way or the other, and the inspection port doesn't indicate the
increased thickness of the insulated door.

> They probably have some kind of transponder in the truck that would
> send out the appropriate information for the satellite to gather.

I suspect -- and I'd even wager the nickle for my lunch milk -- that
it's an add-on to the GPS-reporter thingie that the trailer's location
is tracked with.

/dps

Sean Houtman

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May 20, 2008, 9:02:53 PM5/20/08
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dilbert firestorm <sca...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote in
news:bZCdnbwVsOf0Y6_V...@xfoneusa.net:

The average driver can look at the back doors. Most reefers have swing
doors, with double or triple latches and many of them have a little
inspection door on one side. Most of the trucks with the garage style
doors that go up aren't reefers.

Sean

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Greg Goss

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May 21, 2008, 2:12:58 AM5/21/08
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Snidely <Snide...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On May 18, 8:43 pm, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>> >how do you know its a reefer? I wouldn't know from looking at this picture.
>
>Yeah, technically you (DF) are right, only the labels have a hint.
>You have to pull up to the front of the truck to look for the actual
>cooling unit and/or fuel tank. The clearance bar/bumper doesn't show
>one way or the other, and the inspection port doesn't indicate the
>increased thickness of the insulated door.

Until my stint at the warehouse, I never realized that "refrigerated"
reefer trailers are really "temperature controlled" trailers.

We shipped a lot of juices in glass bottles. In a prairie winter.
From about September to about May, our outgoing shipments went by
"reefer" trucks. Running as heaters.

Greg Goss

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May 21, 2008, 10:28:20 AM5/21/08
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Sean Houtman <gromm...@aol.com> wrote:

>> the only way a driver would know its refrigerated drove up further
>> along the truck and sees a refrigeration unit sticking out in front of
>> the trailer or the trailer is clearly carrying produce, that a driver
>> would normally assume that the trailer is refrigerated.
>>
>>
>>
>
>The average driver can look at the back doors. Most reefers have swing
>doors, with double or triple latches and many of them have a little
>inspection door on one side. Most of the trucks with the garage style
>doors that go up aren't reefers.

The inspection port is used on trucks that go across international
borders. I don't think I've ever seen a semi-trailer with roll-up
doors. They all have the swing doors, but most are not reefers.

The reefer semi-trailers that were used in the winter for our
deliveries were identical from the outside rear to ordinary
semi-trailers.

Rick B.

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May 21, 2008, 11:20:56 AM5/21/08
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In article <69iptgF...@mid.individual.net>, Greg Goss says...

>
>Sean Houtman <gromm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>dilbert firestorm <sca...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote in
>>news:bZCdnbwVsOf0Y6_V...@xfoneusa.net:
>>
>>> the only way a driver would know its refrigerated drove up further
>>> along the truck and sees a refrigeration unit sticking out in front of
>>> the trailer or the trailer is clearly carrying produce, that a driver
>>> would normally assume that the trailer is refrigerated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>The average driver can look at the back doors. Most reefers have swing
>>doors, with double or triple latches and many of them have a little
>>inspection door on one side. Most of the trucks with the garage style
>>doors that go up aren't reefers.
>
>The inspection port is used on trucks that go across international
>borders.

So that's what that little door-within-a-door is for? I've only been meaning to
ask about that for, like, ten years...

Bob Ward

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On Wed, 21 May 2008 08:28:20 -0600, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:

>
>The inspection port is used on trucks that go across international
>borders. I don't think I've ever seen a semi-trailer with roll-up
>doors. They all have the swing doors, but most are not reefers.

Evidently American trailers are different from Canadian trailers.

Snidely

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May 21, 2008, 6:39:34 PM5/21/08
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I dunno, I've seen a lot of trucks not carrying refrigerated loads
make sure they've got their doors open before backing into the loading
dock. I've stared at a lot of center bars locking swing doors in
place, and I don't think they've all been reefers. But maybe living
too far west of Riverside has colored my impressions.

Rollups are common on box trucks, though, so there's a good chance of
seeing rollups on any given trip.

The weird ends I haven't figured out are the plastic bulgy things on
the back of soft-sided vehicle haulers.

/dps

Bill Turlock

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May 21, 2008, 6:47:47 PM5/21/08
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WAG: Aerodynamic consideration to keep the canvas sides from
flapping too much?


Bill "ob3rdGrade: Why do turds have pointy ends?" Turlock, to
keep your a-hole from slamming shut.

Snidely

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May 21, 2008, 6:56:27 PM5/21/08
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On May 21, 3:47 pm, Bill Turlock <"Bill Turlock "@sonnnic.invalid>
wrote:

> WAG: Aerodynamic consideration to keep the canvas sides from
> flapping too much?
>
> Bill "ob3rdGrade: Why do turds have pointy ends?" Turlock, to
> keep your a-hole from slamming shut.

Hmmm, could be.

/dps

HVS

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May 21, 2008, 6:57:42 PM5/21/08
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On 21 May 2008, Snidely wrote

No shit?

--
Cheers,
Harvey

Lee Ayrton

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May 21, 2008, 7:51:11 PM5/21/08
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On Wed, 21 May 2008, Greg Goss wrote:

> Sean Houtman <gromm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> dilbert firestorm <sca...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote in
>> news:bZCdnbwVsOf0Y6_V...@xfoneusa.net:
>>
>>> the only way a driver would know its refrigerated drove up further
>>> along the truck and sees a refrigeration unit sticking out in front of
>>> the trailer or the trailer is clearly carrying produce, that a driver
>>> would normally assume that the trailer is refrigerated.
>>
>> The average driver can look at the back doors. Most reefers have swing
>> doors, with double or triple latches and many of them have a little
>> inspection door on one side. Most of the trucks with the garage style
>> doors that go up aren't reefers.
>
> The inspection port is used on trucks that go across international
> borders. I don't think I've ever seen a semi-trailer with roll-up
> doors. They all have the swing doors, but most are not reefers.

Ohhhh. Inspection port for border crossing. I always wondered what those
little hatches were for.

I routinely see trailers with roll-up doors, your sample may have been
biased by the need to air seal the rear door rather than just keep freight
from falling out into the highway. There's a few pix of trailers with
roll-up doors here:
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/df_iml.htm


>
> The reefer semi-trailers that were used in the winter for our
> deliveries were identical from the outside rear to ordinary
> semi-trailers.

Heh. My ex-wife's father used to drive for an agricultural products
company. One of his runs was to pick up used bedding at a race track and
deliver it to the company composting yard (where it would be sold to a
mushroom production plant for growth media and then resold as garden
compost). Once his tractor broke down, when the company hook arrived they
left the trailer on the side of the road to be picked up the next day.
The trailer looked like any other 45' box truck but it had a "live" floor
for unloading and a retractable canvas top for loading. When they came
back to get the trailer they found that someone had broken into it,
perhaps thinking it full of freight. I've always wondered what they
thought, expecting TVs and finding only 40,000 pounds of horse shit?

dilbert firestorm

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May 21, 2008, 10:06:22 PM5/21/08
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you mean that little diamond shaped mini-door is an inspection port?
been wondering about that for years.

Greg Goss

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May 21, 2008, 10:22:51 PM5/21/08
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dilbert firestorm <sca...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote:

>> In article <69iptgF...@mid.individual.net>, Greg Goss says...

>> >The inspection port is used on trucks that go across international
>> >borders.
>>

>you mean that little diamond shaped mini-door is an inspection port?
>been wondering about that for years.

Diamond shaped?

I'm beginning to wonder if 40 foot semi trailers are less standardized
than I've thought.

Snidely

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May 21, 2008, 11:06:03 PM5/21/08
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On May 21, 4:51 pm, Lee Ayrton <layr...@panix.com> wrote:

> I routinely see trailers with roll-up doors, your sample may have been
> biased by the need to air seal the rear door rather than just keep freight
> from falling out into the highway. There's a few pix of trailers with
> roll-up doors here:http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/df_iml.htm

And a couple with swing doors (one noted as "maybe picked up from
Ringby").

/dps

Snidely

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May 21, 2008, 11:07:12 PM5/21/08
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On May 21, 7:22 pm, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
> dilbert firestorm <scan...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote:
> >> In article <69iptgF31p5e...@mid.individual.net>, Greg Goss says...

> >> >The inspection port is used on trucks that go across international
> >> >borders.
>
> >you mean that little diamond shaped mini-door is an inspection port?
> >been wondering about that for years.
>
> Diamond shaped?
>
> I'm beginning to wonder if 40 foot semi trailers are less standardized
> than I've thought.

Diamond shape is probably the hazmat placard holder.

/dps

Bill Turlock

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May 21, 2008, 11:28:25 PM5/21/08
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Greg Goss wrote:
>
> dilbert firestorm <sca...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote:
>
> >> In article <69iptgF...@mid.individual.net>, Greg Goss says...
> >> >The inspection port is used on trucks that go across international
> >> >borders.
> >>
> >you mean that little diamond shaped mini-door is an inspection port?
> >been wondering about that for years.
>
> Diamond shaped?
>
> I'm beginning to wonder if 40 foot semi trailers are less standardized
> than I've thought.


easiily changeable U.S. DOT haz mat carriage placard

Snidely

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May 21, 2008, 11:32:01 PM5/21/08
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On May 21, 8:28 pm, Bill Turlock <"Bill Turlock "@sonnnic.invalid>
wrote:

> > I'm beginning to wonder if 40 foot semi trailers are less standardized
> > than I've thought.

Missed this the first time around --- WHAT 40 foot trailers? 55' and
58' seem to have taken over the world, with a few 37's (or is it 32')
left as "pup" trailers.

> easiily changeable U.S. DOT haz mat carriage placard

Some of which have hinges, not because they are ports, but because
they are pre-loaded with multiple placards.

/dps

Bill Turlock

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May 21, 2008, 11:36:20 PM5/21/08
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what I was trying to say

Snidely

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May 21, 2008, 11:50:10 PM5/21/08
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On May 21, 8:36 pm, Bill Turlock <"Bill Turlock "@sonnnic.invalid>
wrote:

> what I was trying to say

together we can be half a team.

/dps "pass, pass ..."

Bill Turlock

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We do the work of *three* men!

Bill "Moe, Larry & Curly" Turlock

Lee Ayrton

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May 22, 2008, 5:20:13 AM5/22/08
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On Wed, 21 May 2008, Greg Goss wrote:

> dilbert firestorm <sca...@bytemeati-55.com> wrote:
>
>>> In article <69iptgF...@mid.individual.net>, Greg Goss says...
>>>> The inspection port is used on trucks that go across international
>>>> borders.
>>>
>> you mean that little diamond shaped mini-door is an inspection port?
>> been wondering about that for years.
>
> Diamond shaped?
>
> I'm beginning to wonder if 40 foot semi trailers are less standardized
> than I've thought.

I think he's talking about the cargo placards.

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