What's a "Tijuana oil job"?
D.F. Manno
One teen who was busted tells Det. Munch "You can't do this! I want my
parents!" To which Munch replies "Yeah, and I want the troops home, the
Kyoto Protocol signed, and a Tijuana oil job from Miss February."
Anybody have any idea what a "Tijuana oil job" might be? Neither Google
nor the Urban Dictionary was any help.
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danny burstein
>I was watching a repeat of "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" tonight.
>One teen who was busted tells Det. Munch "You can't do this! I want my
>parents!" To which Munch replies "Yeah, and I want the troops home, the
>Kyoto Protocol signed, and a Tijuana oil job from Miss February."
>Anybody have any idea what a "Tijuana oil job" might be? Neither Google
>nor the Urban Dictionary was any help.
If you have to ask....
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_____________________________________________________
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Bob Ward
wrote:
>I was watching a repeat of "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" tonight.
>One teen who was busted tells Det. Munch "You can't do this! I want my
>parents!" To which Munch replies "Yeah, and I want the troops home, the
>Kyoto Protocol signed, and a Tijuana oil job from Miss February."
>
>Anybody have any idea what a "Tijuana oil job" might be? Neither Google
>nor the Urban Dictionary was any help.
Didn't LA Law tease peopl;e with a "Butterfly Kiss"?
Boron Elgar
wrote:
>I was watching a repeat of "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" tonight.
>One teen who was busted tells Det. Munch "You can't do this! I want my
>parents!" To which Munch replies "Yeah, and I want the troops home, the
>Kyoto Protocol signed, and a Tijuana oil job from Miss February."
>
>Anybody have any idea what a "Tijuana oil job" might be? Neither Google
>nor the Urban Dictionary was any help.
Polite way of saying Tijuana blowjob, I reckon. Dunno as it is
anything special.
Boron
huey.c...@gmail.com
> I was watching a repeat of "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit"
> tonight. One teen who was busted tells Det. Munch "You can't do this!
> I want my parents!" To which Munch replies "Yeah, and I want the
> troops home, the Kyoto Protocol signed, and a Tijuana oil job from
> Miss February."
> Anybody have any idea what a "Tijuana oil job" might be?
Twenty bucks, same as in town.
--
Huey
DT
>>I was watching a repeat of "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" tonight.
>>One teen who was busted tells Det. Munch "You can't do this! I want my
>>parents!" To which Munch replies "Yeah, and I want the troops home, the
>>Kyoto Protocol signed, and a Tijuana oil job from Miss February."
>>
>>Anybody have any idea what a "Tijuana oil job" might be? Neither Google
>>nor the Urban Dictionary was any help.
>
That would be "Venus butterfly".
--
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wrote:
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Hactar
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for you. Expect a big surprise today when you wind up with your
head impaled upon a stick. -- Weird Al, _Your Horoscope for Today_
chris greville
"Boron Elgar" <boron...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9s0ar3thmngm5ipep...@4ax.com...
You forgot to mention the baby oil.
Over here, a Cornwall(*) oil job is swimming in the sea around the coasts of
Cornwall. A number of freighters ran aground in the recent violent storms,
and, apart from all the goodies floating ashore in the containers, heavy
engine oil is leaking from the wrecks and being washed ashore.
* Also applies to other counties.
Boron Elgar
<chrisg...@nooospam.hotmail.co> wrote:
>
>"Boron Elgar" <boron...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:9s0ar3thmngm5ipep...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:47:37 -0500, "D.F. Manno" <dfm...@mail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I was watching a repeat of "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" tonight.
>>>One teen who was busted tells Det. Munch "You can't do this! I want my
>>>parents!" To which Munch replies "Yeah, and I want the troops home, the
>>>Kyoto Protocol signed, and a Tijuana oil job from Miss February."
>>>
>>>Anybody have any idea what a "Tijuana oil job" might be? Neither Google
>>>nor the Urban Dictionary was any help.
>>
>> Polite way of saying Tijuana blowjob, I reckon. Dunno as it is
>> anything special.
>>
>
>You forgot to mention the baby oil.
As in, "Would you like me to use some oil, baby?"
>
>Over here, a Cornwall(*) oil job is swimming in the sea around the coasts of
>Cornwall. A number of freighters ran aground in the recent violent storms,
>and, apart from all the goodies floating ashore in the containers, heavy
>engine oil is leaking from the wrecks and being washed ashore.
>
>* Also applies to other counties.
>
Chris, I tried to write you last night, using a couple of addresses.
At least one bounced. Did anything get through?
Boron
Mary
Not in Tijuana, Huey. I believe you mean, "200 pesos, same as in
town".
Mary
Richard R. Hershberger
<chrisgrevi...@nooospam.hotmail.co> wrote:
> "Boron Elgar" <boron_el...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9s0ar3thmngm5ipep...@4ax.com...
>
> > On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:47:37 -0500, "D.F. Manno" <dfma...@mail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >>I was watching a repeat of "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" tonight.
> >>One teen who was busted tells Det. Munch "You can't do this! I want my
> >>parents!" To which Munch replies "Yeah, and I want the troops home, the
> >>Kyoto Protocol signed, and a Tijuana oil job from Miss February."
>
> >>Anybody have any idea what a "Tijuana oil job" might be? Neither Google
> >>nor the Urban Dictionary was any help.
>
> > Polite way of saying Tijuana blowjob, I reckon. Dunno as it is
> > anything special.
>
> You forgot to mention the baby oil.
>
> Over here, a Cornwall(*) oil job is swimming in the sea around the coasts of
> Cornwall. A number of freighters ran aground in the recent violent storms,
> and, apart from all the goodies floating ashore in the containers, heavy
> engine oil is leaking from the wrecks and being washed ashore.
>
> * Also applies to other counties.
We had a similar situation when I was in college in Santa Barbara,
California. (I assume they still do, but haven't checked.) There was
some combination of natural offshore oil seepage and Exxon offshore
oil derrick seepage. The ratio of the two was not at all clear. The
college dorm bathrooms were provided with convenient cans of
turpentine to assist in removing globs of crude oil from the body.
That was fine for the feet, but for the hair (which I had some of,
back then) I preferred vegetable oil.
Richard R. Hershberger
Glenn Dowdy
"Mary" <mrfea...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:86a35856-b2a3-4aac...@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
Tijuana's a border town. I'd bet they accept American currency.
Glenn D.
Mary
> "Mary" <mrfeath...@aol.com> wrote in message
With a fair amount of alacrity, you betcha. But it IS in Mexico and
the prices are given in pesos even if you pay in dollars.
Mary
chris greville
The free***** one did, the other one is dead. I have already replied to your
opt*****
art...@yahoo.com
That would have been only $17.94 in September. What a bargain!
Boron Elgar
<chrisg...@nooospam.hotmail.co> wrote:
>
>"Boron Elgar" <boron...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:ijuar3t9fqjcooppu...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:41:37 -0000, "chris greville"
>> <chrisg...@nooospam.hotmail.co> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris, I tried to write you last night, using a couple of addresses.
>> At least one bounced. Did anything get through?
>>
>> Boron
>
>The free***** one did, the other one is dead. I have already replied to your
>opt*****
>
Thanks, Chris. I will get home late tonight, but reply over the
weekend.
Boron
D.F. Manno
<d7d066ee-7ac5-403f...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
"art...@yahoo.com" <art...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> That would have been only $17.94 in September. What a bargain!
The peso appears to be appreciating against the dollar. Two hundred
pesos is worth $18.59 today.
Mary
> In article
> <d7d066ee-7ac5-403f-99d2-58d031584...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> "art...@yahoo.com" <art...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 15, 10:07 am, Mary <mrfeath...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 14, 9:21 pm, huey.calli...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > D.F. Manno <dfma...@mail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I was watching a repeat of "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit"
> > > > > tonight. One teen who was busted tells Det. Munch "You can't do this!
> > > > > I want my parents!" To which Munch replies "Yeah, and I want the
> > > > > troops home, the Kyoto Protocol signed, and a Tijuana oil job from
> > > > > Miss February."
> > > > > Anybody have any idea what a "Tijuana oil job" might be?
>
> > > > Twenty bucks, same as in town.
>
> > > Not in Tijuana, Huey. I believe you mean, "200 pesos, same as in
> > > town".
>
> > That would have been only $17.94 in September. What a bargain!
>
> The peso appears to be appreciating against the dollar. Two hundred
> pesos is worth $18.59 today.
Yep. Used to be when we'd buy work permits for visits to the
manufacturing plant there, they'd be $20 even and now the same permit
is $22.
Mary
Bob Ward
I've never smelled moth balls, either.
Jeff Wisnia
> I was watching a repeat of "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" tonight.
> One teen who was busted tells Det. Munch "You can't do this! I want my
> parents!" To which Munch replies "Yeah, and I want the troops home, the
> Kyoto Protocol signed, and a Tijuana oil job from Miss February."
>
> Anybody have any idea what a "Tijuana oil job" might be? Neither Google
> nor the Urban Dictionary was any help.
>
Must not be a very widely used term, 'cause it ain't in here:
http://www.sex-lexis.com/Sex-Dictionary/Tijuana%20oil%20job
Jeff
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.
Greg Goss
>In article
><d7d066ee-7ac5-403f...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> "art...@yahoo.com" <art...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 15, 10:07 am, Mary <mrfeath...@aol.com> wrote:
>> > On Feb 14, 9:21 pm, huey.calli...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > D.F. Manno <dfma...@mail.com> wrote:
>> > > > I was watching a repeat of "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit"
>> > > > tonight. One teen who was busted tells Det. Munch "You can't do this!
>> > > > I want my parents!" To which Munch replies "Yeah, and I want the
>> > > > troops home, the Kyoto Protocol signed, and a Tijuana oil job from
>> > > > Miss February."
>> > > > Anybody have any idea what a "Tijuana oil job" might be?
>> >
>> > > Twenty bucks, same as in town.
>> >
>> > Not in Tijuana, Huey. I believe you mean, "200 pesos, same as in
>> > town".
>>
>> That would have been only $17.94 in September. What a bargain!
>
>The peso appears to be appreciating against the dollar. Two hundred
>pesos is worth $18.59 today.
Pretty much everything except Zimbabwe is appreciating against the
dollar.
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27
Opus the Penguin
**** ***** **** ******
--
Opus the Penguin
And to think that some people want to ban automatic firearms because
there's no legitimate use for them. Clearly those people don't go to
movie theatres. - Lee Ayrton
Snidely
wrote:
> chris greville (chrisgrevi...@nooospam.hotmail.co) wrote:
>
> > "Boron Elgar" <boron_el...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:ijuar3t9fqjcooppu...@4ax.com...
> >> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:41:37 -0000, "chris greville"
> >> <chrisgrevi...@nooospam.hotmail.co> wrote:
>
> >> Chris, I tried to write you last night, using a couple of
> >> addresses. At least one bounced. Did anything get through?
>
> >> Boron
>
> > The free***** one did, the other one is dead. I have already
> > replied to your opt*****
>
> **** ***** **** ******
"--- ... ---"
/dps
Bill Turlock
Bear?
Blinky the Shark
Oh. So? Right!
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Killing all posts from Google Groups
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Snidely
> Bill Turlock wrote:
> > Snidely wrote:
>
> >> On Feb 15, 8:11 pm, Opus the Penguin
> >> <opusthepenguin+use...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > chris greville (chrisgrevi...@nooospam.hotmail.co) wrote:
>
> >> > > "Boron Elgar" <boron_el...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > >news:ijuar3t9fqjcooppu...@4ax.com...
> >> > >> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:41:37 -0000, "chris greville"
> >> > >> <chrisgrevi...@nooospam.hotmail.co> wrote:
>
> >> > >> Chris, I tried to write you last night, using a couple of
> >> > >> addresses. At least one bounced. Did anything get through?
>
> >> > >> Boron
>
> >> > > The free***** one did, the other one is dead. I have
> >> > > already replied to your opt*****
>
> >> > **** ***** **** ******
>
> >> "--- ... ---"
>
> >> /dps
>
> > Bear?
>
> Oh. So? Right!
Wouldn't want to accidentally call the paramedics.
Good thing I don't need to pass a code test to renew my license.
/dps
Bill Turlock
fer sher!
Nick Spalding
<c6f239e7-eb7a-4416...@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>
on Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:23:21 -0800 (PST):
"••• --- •••"
--
Nick Spalding
chris greville
"Bill Turlock" <"Bill Turlock "@sonnnic.invalid> wrote in message
news:47B6993C...@sonnnic.invalid...
Bill Kinkaid
wrote:
prices are posted in litres (with smaller signs displaying the per
gallon prices), though in US currency.
[1] where the tip of a peninsula extends across the Canada-US border,
about five square miles of US territory which is only accessible by
land from Canada.
--
Bill in Vancouver
Greg Goss
>>With a fair amount of alacrity, you betcha. But it IS in Mexico and
>>the prices are given in pesos even if you pay in dollars.
>>
>In Point Roberts, Washington, [1] the gas pumps are calibrated and the
>prices are posted in litres (with smaller signs displaying the per
>gallon prices), though in US currency.
>
>[1] where the tip of a peninsula extends across the Canada-US border,
>about five square miles of US territory which is only accessible by
>land from Canada.
Back in the early nineties, I am sure that most of the gas stations in
Point Roberts and Blain would also post signs with the Canadian bucks
per litre amount on the sign.
Point Roberts is essentially a foreign suburb of Vancouver BC.
Because there's no through traffic onwards to California or wherever,
the border crossing times are pretty reasonable.
Are there any other transnational suburbs along the Canada/US border?
Crossing times at Blain and Rainbow Bridge and even in the middle of
nowhere where Alberta crosses into Montana are too slow to commute
through.
Bill Turlock
Cool! IDNKT. Sounds like a jurisdictional nightmare.
Greg Goss
>Bill Kinkaid wrote:
>> In Point Roberts, Washington, [1]
>> [1] where the tip of a peninsula extends across the Canada-US border,
>> about five square miles of US territory which is only accessible by
>> land from Canada.
>
>Cool! IDNKT. Sounds like a jurisdictional nightmare.
Since the huge salmon catch re-entering the Fraser river is divvied up
between the nations near the Fraser, this scrap of land gives US
fishermen an attachment point for their claim. I don't know how the
annual salmon catch compares in value to the total land value in Point
Roberts, but it may be surprising.
I used to order eBay stuff and other cheap American goods to be
delivered to a drop box in PR and drive them through customs myself.
Customs "brokerage" fees into Canada are awesome, and can add three
weeks to a delivery.
bill van
Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
> Bill Turlock <"Bill Turlock "@sonnnic.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Bill Kinkaid wrote:
> >> In Point Roberts, Washington, [1]
>
> >> [1] where the tip of a peninsula extends across the Canada-US border,
> >> about five square miles of US territory which is only accessible by
> >> land from Canada.
> >
> >Cool! IDNKT. Sounds like a jurisdictional nightmare.
>
> Since the huge salmon catch re-entering the Fraser river is divvied up
> between the nations near the Fraser, this scrap of land gives US
> fishermen an attachment point for their claim. I don't know how the
> annual salmon catch compares in value to the total land value in Point
> Roberts, but it may be surprising.
>
When the summer sockeye runs come in, one of the really big deals is
whether they come up from the south to the mouth of the Fraser, through
U.S. waters, or from the north, around the northern end of Vancouver
Island. If it's the latter, the U.S. portion diminishes. It has been
mainly the latter recently, because between El Nino and global warming,
the salmon while at sea are being driven further north to the colder
waters they prefer.
It will be interesting to see what happens if we hit a dry summer and a
low-water year in the Fraser. When that happens, the salmon tend to
circle around the mouth of the river until there's enough water for them
to come up -- when the fall rains arrive -- and the circling takes them
through U.S. waters.
However, there is beginning to be serious doubt now that the sockeye --
the best eating salmon on the planet -- will survive at all. Climate
change is knocking them silly, everybody has overfished them for more
than a century, and now the sea lice emanating from the fish farms are
killing them in huge numbers.
--
bill
remove my country for e-mail
bill van
Bill Turlock <"Bill Turlock "@sonnnic.invalid> wrote:
> Bill Kinkaid wrote:
> >
> > In Point Roberts, Washington, [1] the gas pumps are calibrated and the
> > prices are posted in litres (with smaller signs displaying the per
> > gallon prices), though in US currency.
> >
> > [1] where the tip of a peninsula extends across the Canada-US border,
> > about five square miles of US territory which is only accessible by
> > land from Canada.
>
> Cool! IDNKT. Sounds like a jurisdictional nightmare.
No, all is copacetic. Point Roberts is mostly beach-front property on
both sides with a road running down the middle. A lot of the people who
own cottages on the beach are Canadians. There are a few sensible local
rules about crossing the border, and nobody gets excited.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ned=us&q=%22point+roberts%22&um=1&ie=UT
F-8&sa=N&tab=wl
There used to be a great bar there called The Breakers, which burned
down a number of years ago. One of the rites of passage back when we had
puritanical liquor laws in B.C. was to drive to Point Roberts and drink
beer in a bar on a Sunday.
N Jill Marsh
>Are there any other transnational suburbs along the Canada/US border?
>Crossing times at Blain and Rainbow Bridge and even in the middle of
>nowhere where Alberta crosses into Montana are too slow to commute
>through.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by a transnational suburb. There
are lots of places along the border where people work in one country
and live in the other - I'm more familiar with US residents crossing
to work in Canada, but that's due to where I grew up, I don't think
that's necessarily the most prevalent situation. I think this is more
common in Southern & Eastern Ontario and parts east, probably due to
the population and industrial density.
nj"chemical valley"m
--
the handcuffed heartaches up against the car
like you're up against me darling in my dreams
Mary
> Bill Kinkaid <davel...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>> With a fair amount of alacrity, you betcha. But it IS in Mexico and
>>> the prices are given in pesos even if you pay in dollars.
>>>
>> In Point Roberts, Washington, [1] the gas pumps are calibrated and the
>> prices are posted in litres (with smaller signs displaying the per
>> gallon prices), though in US currency.
>>
>> [1] where the tip of a peninsula extends across the Canada-US border,
>> about five square miles of US territory which is only accessible by
>> land from Canada.
>
> Back in the early nineties, I am sure that most of the gas stations in
> Point Roberts and Blain would also post signs with the Canadian bucks
> per litre amount on the sign.
>
> Point Roberts is essentially a foreign suburb of Vancouver BC.
> Because there's no through traffic onwards to California or wherever,
> the border crossing times are pretty reasonable.
California?
It would be quite a trick if you did try to cross directly from Canada
to California in a car.
Mary
Mary
> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:00:57 -0700, Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> wrote:
>
>> Are there any other transnational suburbs along the Canada/US border?
>> Crossing times at Blain and Rainbow Bridge and even in the middle of
>> nowhere where Alberta crosses into Montana are too slow to commute
>> through.
>
> I'm not exactly sure what you mean by a transnational suburb. There
> are lots of places along the border where people work in one country
> and live in the other - I'm more familiar with US residents crossing
> to work in Canada, but that's due to where I grew up, I don't think
> that's necessarily the most prevalent situation. I think this is more
> common in Southern & Eastern Ontario and parts east, probably due to
> the population and industrial density.
>
Lots of small towns in southern Manitoba and Ontario and northern
Minnesota rely on each other for services. The Canadian town will have
a decent pharmacy, the American one will have the supermarket, that kind
of thing. And people do work on the other side of the border from where
they live. When the Feds proposed tightening security at the Canadian
border, a lot of people there pointed out that it was going to be a huge
pain in the ass for the local residents.
Mary
Mary
See also, Lake of the Woods, MN.
Mary
Bill Kinkaid
>Bill Kinkaid <davel...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>>With a fair amount of alacrity, you betcha. But it IS in Mexico and
>>>the prices are given in pesos even if you pay in dollars.
>>>
>>In Point Roberts, Washington, [1] the gas pumps are calibrated and the
>>prices are posted in litres (with smaller signs displaying the per
>>gallon prices), though in US currency.
>>
>>[1] where the tip of a peninsula extends across the Canada-US border,
>>about five square miles of US territory which is only accessible by
>>land from Canada.
>
>Back in the early nineties, I am sure that most of the gas stations in
>Point Roberts and Blain would also post signs with the Canadian bucks
>per litre amount on the sign.
Funny, I've been going there once every couple of months for several
years and yesterday was the first time I'd seen that they do also have
Canadian prices posted. Of course, now it's about one cent a litre
difference so what's the point.
>
>Point Roberts is essentially a foreign suburb of Vancouver BC.
>Because there's no through traffic onwards to California or wherever,
>the border crossing times are pretty reasonable.
But the Canadian border guards are still on the same authority trip
(the US ones are usually great). Just how much milk and cheese do they
think I can fit in my small trunk? Or cheap Yakima wine?
--
Bill in Vancouver
Bill Kinkaid
wrote:
And there are a couple of places you can just walk across unwatched.
http://maps.google.com/maps?client=opera&rls=en&q=point+roberts&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=il
Much of the borderline has a deep ditch with backyards on one side of
it, and the eastern side is a cottonwood swamp on the Canadian side,
but English Bluff Road is separated from Marine Drive solely by a
couple of concrete traffic barriers. No fences, barbed wire, cameras
(as far as I can tell) or anything. You could also just walk along the
beach on either side of the peninsula.
--
Bill in Vancouver
Greg Goss
>Greg Goss wrote:
>> Point Roberts is essentially a foreign suburb of Vancouver BC.
>> Because there's no through traffic onwards to California or wherever,
>> the border crossing times are pretty reasonable.
>
>California?
>
>It would be quite a trick if you did try to cross directly from Canada
>to California in a car.
I didn't say "directly". The OTHER few crossings south of Vancouver
are all clogged with people going somewhere. They're not just
crossing the border to get to the town or state on the other side.
That was my point.
Greg Goss
>>Point Roberts is essentially a foreign suburb of Vancouver BC.
>>Because there's no through traffic onwards to California or wherever,
>>the border crossing times are pretty reasonable.
>
>But the Canadian border guards are still on the same authority trip
>(the US ones are usually great). Just how much milk and cheese do they
>think I can fit in my small trunk? Or cheap Yakima wine?
Interesting. My experience with PR was more from when my MIL lived in
Tsawwassen. I used it less after we moved to Surrey, and much less
after we moved to Toronto in 03. So my experiences are all more than
five years old.
At that time, the Canadian crossing was much easier than the US one.
Two years ago (?) we gave the Canadian border guards guns. I wonder
if that changed their attitude, or changed the attitude of people
applying to work there?
Mary
I know. I just wanted to sort of poke through the bars of your cage.
Mary
Never did confuse Greg with a stupid person.
Blinky the Shark
> Bill Turlock wrote:
>> Bill Kinkaid wrote:
>>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 08:35:16 -0800 (PST), Mary
>>> <mrfea...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> On Feb 15, 9:57 am, "Glenn Dowdy"
>>>> <glenn.no.do...@hp.spam.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Mary" <mrfeath...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>> news:86a35856-b2a3-4aac-885c-f2fdd6a7b324
@s13g2000prd.googleg
>>>>> roups.com... On Feb 14, 9:21 pm, huey.calli...@gmail.com
And from Wiki: "Other exclaves of this type include ... the
Northwest Angle, Minnesota and Elm Point, Minnesota."
(Where I first encountered the word "exclave".)
Mary
Lake of the Woods is the Northwest Angle. Elm Point I'd have to look up.
> (Where I first encountered the word "exclave".)
>
I've never heard it before either.
Mary
Bill Turlock
Humph. I grew up in Wisconsin, where they had sensible laws.
Teenagers could drink beer any day of the week!
Bill Turlock
Go there on a bicycle.
Bill "and smuggle" Turlock
Blinky the Shark
> Humph. I grew up in Wisconsin, where they had sensible laws.
> Teenagers could drink beer any day of the week!
...as long as the month had an "r".
Greg Goss
>
>There used to be a great bar there called The Breakers, which burned
>down a number of years ago. One of the rites of passage back when we had
>puritanical liquor laws in B.C. was to drive to Point Roberts and drink
>beer in a bar on a Sunday.
When I was going to university, it was to go to PR or Blaine and watch
movies. At that time, the US was more liberal about sex than Canada
was. This was long before I was age 21.
A decade later, we used to go to the White Bird in Northport
Washington from Trail on Sundays. You had to be careful. The
crossing on the valley floor closed at 5 on weekends and you had to
clear the mountaintop crossing before midnight.
I always found the "No visible knives or firearms allowed inside these
premises" sign on the door to be alarming at the White Bird. Loved
the potato wedges there, though I haven't tasted them since Expo 86
unlocked our own bars on Sundays.
The White Bird seems to have survived the loss of the Sunday "Trail
riders".
http://www.restaurantlistings.com/restaurants/WA_stevenscounty_northport.html
Greg Goss
>And there are a couple of places you can just walk across unwatched.
>http://maps.google.com/maps?client=opera&rls=en&q=point+roberts&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=il
>Much of the borderline has a deep ditch with backyards on one side of
>it, and the eastern side is a cottonwood swamp on the Canadian side,
>but English Bluff Road is separated from Marine Drive solely by a
>couple of concrete traffic barriers. No fences, barbed wire, cameras
>(as far as I can tell) or anything. You could also just walk along the
>beach on either side of the peninsula.
It's still a bad idea, though. Especially four months or so after
9/11. It's a bad idea even to just drop someone ELSE off to do the
pedestrian thing.
http://travelangel.livejournal.com/17066.html
Eventually the guy pleaded guilty to the misdemeanor form of the
infraction, the girlfriend settled down to living in Bellingham for a
few years (with the commute eventually breaking them up), and the
charges "stayed" against the driver.
It was all a dumb idea. I wish I'd been there when the whole
seinfeldish plan was coming together.
Bill Kinkaid
I think, with two exceptions, I've always gotten more hassle from the
Canadian crossing than from the US one.
Once I crossed at Douglas and was all but accused of stealing the 12
year old shitbox Plymouth Volare I was driving at the time, and they
made me go into the office where they ran my licence and gruntingly
let me through.
Another time at Sumas I was pulled over and waited while a group of
friendly Marines went through my trunk, saw my camping gear and let me
go through, but I was treated well.
But those were exceptions. In my experience the US guards are always
perfunctory, curt and detached but rarely jerks. The Canadians usually
manage to think up the most inane, irrelevant and NYODB questions to
ask me, though I rarely ever purchase anything but gas, and haven't
crossed for any reason other than day trips birding at Point Roberts
or hiking at Mount Baker for over a decade. Maybe there's just
something about the way I look that screams out "cheese smuggler".
--
Bill in Vancouver
Bill Kinkaid
Done that. Going into Point Roberts, there is a separate sidewalk
where pedestrians and cyclists can go into the office and check in.
It's a breeze, you're through in seconds. Coming back, you have to
line up with the vehicles. That sucks big time. It doubly sucks as
Point Roberts is a magnificent cycling trip. I used to cross over in
Maple Bay, I'm really tempted sometimes to just cross illegally at
English Bluff.
--
Bill in Vancouver
groo
> On Feb 15, 4:41 am, "chris greville"
> <chrisgrevi...@nooospam.hotmail.co> wrote:
>> "Boron Elgar" <boron_el...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:9s0ar3thmngm5ipep...@4ax.com...
>>
>> > On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:47:37 -0500, "D.F. Manno" <dfma...@mail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >>I was watching a repeat of "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit"
>> >>tonight. One teen who was busted tells Det. Munch "You can't do
>> >>this! I want my parents!" To which Munch replies "Yeah, and I want
>> >>the troops home, the Kyoto Protocol signed, and a Tijuana oil job
>> >>from Miss February."
>>
>> >>Anybody have any idea what a "Tijuana oil job" might be? Neither
>> >>Google nor the Urban Dictionary was any help.
>>
>> > Polite way of saying Tijuana blowjob, I reckon. Dunno as it is
>> > anything special.
>>
>> You forgot to mention the baby oil.
>>
>> Over here, a Cornwall(*) oil job is swimming in the sea around the
>> coasts
> of
>> Cornwall. A number of freighters ran aground in the recent violent
>> storms,
>
>> and, apart from all the goodies floating ashore in the containers,
>> heavy engine oil is leaking from the wrecks and being washed ashore.
>>
>> * Also applies to other counties.
>
> We had a similar situation when I was in college in Santa Barbara,
> California. (I assume they still do, but haven't checked.) There was
> some combination of natural offshore oil seepage and Exxon offshore
> oil derrick seepage. The ratio of the two was not at all clear. The
> college dorm bathrooms were provided with convenient cans of
> turpentine to assist in removing globs of crude oil from the body.
> That was fine for the feet, but for the hair (which I had some of,
> back then) I preferred vegetable oil.
WD-40 works too.
--
"The moment of victory is much too short to live for that and nothing
else." - Martina Navratilova
Sano
news:dfmanno-DC4FAE...@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net:
> In article
> <d7d066ee-7ac5-403f...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>
> ,
> "art...@yahoo.com" <art...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 15, 10:07 am, Mary <mrfeath...@aol.com> wrote:
>> > On Feb 14, 9:21 pm, huey.calli...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > D.F. Manno <dfma...@mail.com> wrote:
>> > > > I was watching a repeat of "Law & Order: Special Victims
>> > > > Unit" tonight. One teen who was busted tells Det. Munch
>> > > > "You can't do this! I want my parents!" To which Munch
>> > > > replies "Yeah, and I want the troops home, the Kyoto
>> > > > Protocol signed, and a Tijuana oil job from Miss February."
>> > > > Anybody have any idea what a "Tijuana oil job" might be?
>> >
>> > > Twenty bucks, same as in town.
>> >
>> > Not in Tijuana, Huey. I believe you mean, "200 pesos, same as
>> > in town".
>>
>> That would have been only $17.94 in September. What a bargain!
>
> The peso appears to be appreciating against the dollar. Two
> hundred pesos is worth $18.59 today.
Among various definitions I could imagine would be,
5 gallons of used motor oil and some Visqueen ( 4 Mil Plastic Poly
Polyethylene Sheeting)
Neal Eckhardt
wrote:
>Snidely wrote, in
><c6f239e7-eb7a-4416...@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>
> on Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:23:21 -0800 (PST):
>
>> On Feb 15, 8:11 pm, Opus the Penguin <opusthepenguin+use...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > chris greville (chrisgrevi...@nooospam.hotmail.co) wrote:
>> >
>> > > "Boron Elgar" <boron_el...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > >news:ijuar3t9fqjcooppu...@4ax.com...
>> > >> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:41:37 -0000, "chris greville"
>> > >> <chrisgrevi...@nooospam.hotmail.co> wrote:
>> >
>> > >> Chris, I tried to write you last night, using a couple of
>> > >> addresses. At least one bounced. Did anything get through?
>> >
>> > >> Boron
>> >
>> > > The free***** one did, the other one is dead. I have already
>> > > replied to your opt*****
>> >
>> > **** ***** **** ******
>>
>> "--- ... ---"
>
>"••• --- •••"
Good! At least somebody has the *stones* to do it right.
Neal
N Jill Marsh
wrote:
>I think, with two exceptions, I've always gotten more hassle from the
>Canadian crossing than from the US one.
I haven't. I've only had one really negative experience crossing the
border, and it was at the US side. The Canadians are going to be more
curious, because it's their job to collect the taxes on the eligible
stuff that you're bringing back. I've once had a Canadian side guy be
a little short with me, that last in the last month. As soon as you
trip them out of their script, they get testy.
But I have found the level of friendliness and professionalism on both
sides to have gone down a great deal in the last five years. I don't
know if it's the increased traffic, the increased security, the
increased employment or the increased arms, but the good attitude in
border guards I grew up with has almost disappeared.
nj"and everything's uphill, both ways"m
Peter Ward
>"cheese smuggler".
Occupation of the week.
--
Peter
I'm an alien
Whenever life gets complicated, take a nap and wait for dinner
email: groups at asylum dot nildram dot co dot uk
Reunite Gondwanaland (Mary Shafer)
> I used to order eBay stuff and other cheap American goods to be
> delivered to a drop box in PR and drive them through customs myself.
> Customs "brokerage" fees into Canada are awesome, and can add three
> weeks to a delivery.
I buy knitting yarn from a Canadian company and they ship orders of
less than $200 (US) from Port Roberts by Priority Mail. After the one
time I went over $200 and they had to use Canadian mail and send it
through customs, I became very scrupulous about the limit. Just the
difference in delivery time makes it worthwhile.
I assume that there are companies that offer this service
commercially. I'm pretty sure that my yarn seller drove the boxes to
Port Roberts herself in her early days, but now the volume is much too
much for that to work.
Mary "Works both ways"
--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer
We didn't just do weird stuff at Dryden, we wrote reports about it.
reunite....@gmail.com or mil...@qnet.com
Visit my blog at http://thedigitalknitter.blogspot.com/
Bob Ward
You are OSO smart...
Opus the Penguin
>
> Maybe there's just something about the way I look that screams out
> "cheese smuggler".
>
Sigged!
--
Opus the Penguin
Maybe there's just something about the way I look that screams out
"cheese smuggler". - Bill Kinkaid
Jerry Bauer
(in article
<c6f239e7-eb7a-4416...@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>):
> "--- ... ---"
When we moved from Eielson AFB (Fairbanks, Alaska) to Laughlin AFB
(Del Rio, Texas), my parents bought some books for me and my siblings
to begin hablar Español, because it was the default foreign language
taught in the public schools there. One of the books was "Los Tres
Osos".
A couple of moves later, we were at Grenier Field (Manchester, New
Hampshire), by which time one of my sisters was in third grade. This
was in 1965. Her class had been watching an educational television
series. One day, she reported that "We were watching a show called
'Hay Blow Ess Pan Yole', but we quit because we weren't getting
anything out of it."
In another sister's fourth-grade "Social Studies" class, at
Bakersville School in Manchester, she learned about California's "San
Joe-ah-kwin" valley.
(In my science class, I learned that water is not a mineral, and that
the teacher is always right.)
--
Jerry Randal Bauer
groo
> Maybe there's just
> something about the way I look that screams out "cheese smuggler".
>
Do you have any visible piercings?
--
"Well, cyberterrorists may be difficult to capture in the act, but from
what I know about people who are highly skilled with computers, they should
be easy to beat up." - Ernest Cey
Veronique
> Bill Kinkaid <davelis...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > Maybe there's just
> > something about the way I look that screams out "cheese smuggler".
>
> Do you have any visible piercings?
Or visible cheese?
V.
--
Veronique Chez Sheep
Bill Kinkaid
<veroniq...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Feb 18, 8:30 pm, groo <afcag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Bill Kinkaid <davelis...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> > Maybe there's just
>> > something about the way I look that screams out "cheese smuggler".
>>
>> Do you have any visible piercings?
>
Nor invisible.
>
>Or visible cheese?
>
>
Nor inv... now cut that out!
--
Bill in Vancouver
bill van
Bill Kinkaid <davel...@shaw.ca> wrote:
Won't.
Who cut the invisible cheese?
--
bill
remove my country for e-mail
Boron Elgar
>Bill Kinkaid <davel...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Maybe there's just
>> something about the way I look that screams out "cheese smuggler".
>>
>
>Do you have any visible piercings?
>
A Prince Albert.
Boron
Hactar
Unusual for you. Don't suppose you starred in "The Crying Game"?
--
-eben QebWe...@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81
An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of
being called an idea at all. -Oscar Wilde
Boron Elgar
wrote:
>In article <sdhlr3h1f4ejo7age...@4ax.com>,
>Boron Elgar <boron...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:30:13 GMT, groo <afca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Bill Kinkaid <davel...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Maybe there's just
>> >> something about the way I look that screams out "cheese smuggler".
>> >
>> >Do you have any visible piercings?
>>
>> A Prince Albert.
>
>Unusual for you. Don't suppose you starred in "The Crying Game"?
I was speaking for Bill, of course.
Boron
N Jill Marsh
>Bill Kinkaid <davel...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> Maybe there's just
>> something about the way I look that screams out "cheese smuggler".
>
>Do you have any visible piercings?
Doesn't really affect things much, assuming everything else is in
order.
nj"though child will point & laugh when metal detector squeals"m
Estron
>(In my science class, I learned that water is not a mineral, and that
>the teacher is always right.)
I brought a Mobius strip to school in seventh grade, and the science
teacher -- the _science_ teacher! -- refused to believe it was a one-sided
surface.
--
All opinions expressed herein are only that, and are my own.
Pax vobiscum.
est...@kc.rr.com
http://www.myspace.com/johnrmitchell
Blinky the Shark
> Previously, in alt.fan.cecil-adams, Jerry Bauer wrote:
>
>>(In my science class, I learned that water is not a mineral, and that
>>the teacher is always right.)
>
> I brought a Mobius strip to school in seventh grade, and the science
> teacher -- the _science_ teacher! -- refused to believe it was a one-sided
> surface.
In fifth grade (1958, I guess) my teacher explained that rockets work by
pushing against the air behind them. I said, no, it's that the open rear
of the nozzle affords nothing to counter the force pushing in the opposite
direction (forward) -- or else they would not work in space. No go, of
course, because she was The Teacher. From a little village in Minnesota;
I hope she knew more about fishing.
Hactar
Blinky the Shark <no....@box.invalid> wrote:
> Estron wrote:
>
> > Previously, in alt.fan.cecil-adams, Jerry Bauer wrote:
> >
> >>(In my science class, I learned that water is not a mineral, and that
> >>the teacher is always right.)
> >
> > I brought a Mobius strip to school in seventh grade, and the science
> > teacher -- the _science_ teacher! -- refused to believe it was a one-sided
> > surface.
>
> In fifth grade (1958, I guess) my teacher explained that rockets work by
> pushing against the air behind them. I said, no, it's that the open rear
> of the nozzle affords nothing to counter the force pushing in the opposite
> direction (forward) -- or else they would not work in space. No go, of
> course, because she was The Teacher. From a little village in Minnesota;
> I hope she knew more about fishing.
When I was in 6th grade the science teacher had us react macnesium with
some acid. Sounds normal until it is revealed that the magnesium is in
the form of tablets (like you get from the drugstore). Apparently she
was under the misconception that it was _elemental_ magnesium. At least
she didn't get uppity about it, maybe because nobody recognized this
fact and pointed it out.
Later (I think, possibly earlier) in one of those "summer school for budding
geeks" things, some TA (well, we didn't _call_ him that, but that's what he
was) running a basic electrics class had us measure the conductance of
electrical tape. Apparently the right answer was that it _did_ conduct.
Then there was that teacher (and I use that term loosely) for Algebra II
(10th grade) who couldn't do inequalities and refused to accept a
correction. $%#&...
--
The mnky gibbering and screeching used to keep me up at night, although
in the lst week or so it's prtty mch tailed off to nthng. The smell has
gttn noticbly worse in the last cple of days, too. The next time I get
a barrl full of mnkys, I'm going to try taking the lid off. -groo, AFCA
bill van
Estron <est...@kc.rr.com> wrote:
> Previously, in alt.fan.cecil-adams, Jerry Bauer wrote:
>
> >(In my science class, I learned that water is not a mineral, and that
> >the teacher is always right.)
>
> I brought a Mobius strip to school in seventh grade, and the science
> teacher -- the _science_ teacher! -- refused to believe it was a one-sided
> surface.
Well, it wasn't. At any given point, it clearly had two sides.
The continuous-surface business is clever and delightful the first time
you see one, but that doesn't stop it from having two sides. Try holding
it between finger and thumb. They're on opposite sides.
Hell, if we gave you a big old twist, you'd still have a left hand and a
right.
No longer so firmly attached, perhaps.
darkon
I still remember something similar from a geometry class. On a
test, the teacher asked the following question. Given: two lines
in a plane, AB and CD, that intersect in point E. If two
additional points in the same plane, M and N, are contained
somewhere in the angles AED and CEB respectively, does the line MN
have to pass through the point E? I said no, and drew the obvious
example. To my surprise, the teacher and everyone else in the
class said yes. To his credit, the teacher realized he was wrong
and showed the class my example, but since he was wrong he gave
them all credit for the question, too. I thought I should have
gotten more points for being right.
Glenn Dowdy
"darkon" <darko...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A4A9B449B...@216.168.3.30...
>
> I thought I should have gotten more points for being right.
>
Glenn D.
Opus the Penguin
Not only does it not have to, it's not very likely to.
> I said no, and drew the obvious
> example. To my surprise, the teacher and everyone else in the
> class said yes. To his credit, the teacher realized he was wrong
> and showed the class my example,
How could they not come up with an example themselves? What am I
missing?
> but since he was wrong he gave
> them all credit for the question, too. I thought I should have
> gotten more points for being right.
>
I agree. I'm mystified by the initial belief of the teacher and all
the students but you. Are you sure you've recounted the problem
correctly?
--
Opus the Penguin
This is so obviously ludicrous that it's hard to get very interested
in contradicting it. - Pushmi-Pullyu
darkon
> darkon (darko...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
[snip]
>>
>> I still remember something similar from a geometry class. On a
>> test, the teacher asked the following question. Given: two
>> lines in a plane, AB and CD, that intersect in point E. If two
>> additional points in the same plane, M and N, are contained
>> somewhere in the angles AED and CEB respectively, does the line
>> MN have to pass through the point E?
>
> Not only does it not have to, it's not very likely to.
>
>
>> I said no, and drew the obvious
>> example. To my surprise, the teacher and everyone else in the
>> class said yes. To his credit, the teacher realized he was
>> wrong and showed the class my example,
>
> How could they not come up with an example themselves? What am I
> missing?
You're not missing anything. I didn't and don't understand how
they could all decide on the same wrong answer.
>> but since he was wrong he gave
>> them all credit for the question, too. I thought I should have
>> gotten more points for being right.
>>
>
> I agree. I'm mystified by the initial belief of the teacher and
> all the students but you. Are you sure you've recounted the
> problem correctly?
Yes, I'm sure. Something like that tends to stick in your head.
rox
I can understand it...I was in a teacher training program as an undergrad
and all these years later I am taking classes again (in SQL but that's not
important right now). Just because a student is speaking his/her agreement
with a teacher's statement does not mean they thought about it, agree with
it or even understood a single word that was uttered. the problem only
becomes magnified when there is a class room full of students.
It's not that they were even conciously trying to suck up...most students
just respond on autopilot. Only a student that's BOTH actively engaged in
thinking AND not afraid to be wrong in front of others would ever voice
disagreement.
I've seen it on every level, it's not just grade school kids. Grown people
in in a school of continuing education who are paying for this and giving up
their Saturday morning just parrot what they think our teacher wants to
hear--agreement with his syntax on SELECT statements. He's clever
though--he sometimes states things that are missing some part (like WHERE),
asks the class if they are correct, gets them to agree that they are
'correct' then makes them run the code--and says "Well, you're the ones who
told me it was written right. Try again. Let me know when you've fixed it."
And people in class glare at him...but in the end he forces them to pay
attention and really participate.
Peter Ward
>In article <0vdnr3h7om97mrn34...@4ax.com>,
> Estron <est...@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Previously, in alt.fan.cecil-adams, Jerry Bauer wrote:
>>
>> >(In my science class, I learned that water is not a mineral, and that
>> >the teacher is always right.)
>>
>> I brought a Mobius strip to school in seventh grade, and the science
>> teacher -- the _science_ teacher! -- refused to believe it was a one-sided
>> surface.
>
>Well, it wasn't. At any given point, it clearly had two sides.
Actually, it is. What appears to be two sides can easily be
demonstrated to be one side.
>The continuous-surface business is clever and delightful the first time
>you see one, but that doesn't stop it from having two sides. Try holding
>it between finger and thumb. They're on opposite sides.
No, they're centred at different points on the same side.
>Hell, if we gave you a big old twist, you'd still have a left hand and a
>right.
Not the same thing at all, Mr. Klein.
darkon
I think you missed the part where I said this was on a test. The
other students independently came up with the wrong answer.
Not that that makes any of what you said wrong; just a different
situation.
> I've seen it on every level, it's not just grade school kids.
> Grown people in in a school of continuing education who are
> paying for this and giving up their Saturday morning just parrot
> what they think our teacher wants to hear--agreement with his
> syntax on SELECT statements. He's clever though--he sometimes
> states things that are missing some part (like WHERE), asks the
> class if they are correct, gets them to agree that they are
> 'correct' then makes them run the code--and says "Well, you're
> the ones who told me it was written right. Try again. Let me
> know when you've fixed it."
>
> And people in class glare at him...but in the end he forces them
> to pay attention and really participate.
Nothing here. Next post!
Ken Williams
wrote:
> In article <0vdnr3h7om97mrn34...@4ax.com>,
> Estron <est...@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Previously, in alt.fan.cecil-adams, Jerry Bauer wrote:
> >
> > >(In my science class, I learned that water is not a mineral, and that
> > >the teacher is always right.)
> >
> > I brought a Mobius strip to school in seventh grade, and the science
> > teacher -- the _science_ teacher! -- refused to believe it was a one-sided
> > surface.
>
> Well, it wasn't. At any given point, it clearly had two sides.
>
> The continuous-surface business is clever and delightful the first time
> you see one, but that doesn't stop it from having two sides. Try holding
> it between finger and thumb. They're on opposite sides.
I just folded a sheet of printer paper and creased it along the fold.
I'm holding it between finger and thumb with the creased edge between
them. Are my finger and my thumb on opposite sides of the sheet?
Ken "topology are tough" Williams
Hactar
If you want to get nitpicky about it, no, paper is not planar, its
thickness is >0.
--
A well-lovd and corrctly traind domstc cnine is gnrlly slobbry, excitbl,
noisy, scatologically obsessed, xenophobic, pathetically unjudgmental,
embrrssngly uninhbtd, unreasnngly dvtd, hrtbrkngly dpndnt and wretchedly
craven. All othr knds of dog cmpre unfvrbly wth ths picture. - PB, AFCA
groo
> In article <MPG.2227c8fbe...@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>,
> Ken Williams <ken...@huntingdon.edu> wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:50:56 GMT, bill van <bil...@shawcanada.ca>
>> wrote:
>> > In article <0vdnr3h7om97mrn34...@4ax.com>,
>> > Estron <est...@kc.rr.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Previously, in alt.fan.cecil-adams, Jerry Bauer wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >(In my science class, I learned that water is not a mineral, and
>> > > >that the teacher is always right.)
>> > >
>> > > I brought a Mobius strip to school in seventh grade, and the
>> > > science teacher -- the _science_ teacher! -- refused to believe
>> > > it was a one-sided surface.
>> >
>> > Well, it wasn't. At any given point, it clearly had two sides.
>> >
>> > The continuous-surface business is clever and delightful the first
>> > time you see one, but that doesn't stop it from having two sides.
>> > Try holding it between finger and thumb. They're on opposite sides.
>>
>> I just folded a sheet of printer paper and creased it along the fold.
>> I'm holding it between finger and thumb with the creased edge
>> between them. Are my finger and my thumb on opposite sides of the
>> sheet?
>
> If you want to get nitpicky about it, no, paper is not planar, its
> thickness is >0.
>
So? That's not relevant.
--
"Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat
you with experience."
bill van
Your finger and thumb are on opposite sides of the folded sheet. Or on
opposite sides of the folded *part* of the sheet, depending on how much
you're pinching.
Hactar
Sure it is. A piece of paper, since it has nonzero thickness, is really
a very thin rectangular solid. No matter how you position your fingers,
they're always on the same side -- the outside. A Möbious strip is a
mathematical ideal. Only planes (the mathematical kind, not the
aeronautic kind) can do it. They have two sides (in their untwisted
state), paper doesn't (unless the inside counts).
Hactar
Hactar <ebenZ...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Möbious strip
Crap. _Möbius_.
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-eben QebWe...@vTerYizUonI.nOetP royalty.mine.nu:81
Your pretended fear lest error might step in is like the man who
would keep all wine out of the country lest men should be drunk.
-- Oliver Cromwell
QueBarbara
wrote:
>
>Crap. _Möbius_.
Now that shit would be amazing.
--
QueBarbara
HVS
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:07:20 GMT, ebenZ...@verizon.net (Hactar)
> wrote:
>>
>> Crap. _Möbius_.
>
> Now that shit would be amazing.
I'm pooped just thinking about it.
--
Cheers,
Harvey
Hactar
Check the other side.
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Blinky the Shark
> In article <Xns9A4C806A...@news.albasani.net>,
> HVS <use...@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 22 Feb 2008, QueBarbara wrote
>>
>> > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:07:20 GMT, ebenZ...@verizon.net (Hactar)
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Crap. _Möbius_.
>> >
>> > Now that shit would be amazing.
>>
>> I'm pooped just thinking about it.
>
> Check the other side.
"Turn her over, stupid!"
darkon
> In article <Xns9A4C806A...@news.albasani.net>,
> HVS <use...@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 22 Feb 2008, QueBarbara wrote
>>
>> > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:07:20 GMT, ebenZ...@verizon.net
>> > (Hactar) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Crap. _Möbius_.
>> >
>> > Now that shit would be amazing.
>>
>> I'm pooped just thinking about it.
>
> Check the other side.
I seem to have gotten the shitty side of the Möbius strip.
Bob Ward
wrote:
I used to think that was how those endless towels in restrooms worked.
Neal Eckhardt
wrote:
>Anybody have any idea what a "Tijuana oil job" might be?
No, But my flight instructor told us what a Tijuana valve job is (this
was like almost 30 years ago.
Neal
S. Checker
And?
(Failing to Learn Stuff Here)
--
The path to my fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon my soul is
grooved to run. Over unsounded gorges, through the rifled hearts of
mountains, under torrents' beds, unerringly I rush! -- Moby Dick
Neal Eckhardt
wrote:
>Neal Eckhardt <neck...@penntraffic.nospam.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:47:37 -0500, "D.F. Manno" <dfm...@mail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Anybody have any idea what a "Tijuana oil job" might be?
>>
>> No, But my flight instructor told us what a Tijuana valve job is (this
>> was like almost 30 years ago.
>>
>
>And?
>
>(Failing to Learn Stuff Here)
Was waiting to see if anybody else heard the term here.
Neal"will answer tomorrow"
Bob Ward
I've heard of Vice-Grips being referred to as a Tijuana socket
wrench...
Neal Eckhardt
<neck...@penntraffic.nospam.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:44:24 -0500, spa...@gmail.com (S. Checker)
>wrote:
>
>>Neal Eckhardt <neck...@penntraffic.nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:47:37 -0500, "D.F. Manno" <dfm...@mail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Anybody have any idea what a "Tijuana oil job" might be?
>>>
>>> No, But my flight instructor told us what a Tijuana valve job is (this
>>> was like almost 30 years ago.
>>>
>>
>>And?
>>
>>(Failing to Learn Stuff Here)
>
>Was waiting to see if anybody else heard the term here.
>
>Neal"will answer tomorrow"
OK, I guess not.
Back in the late 70s when I took my flight lessons, our instructor
mentioned that it is a good thing to get to know your mechanic (if you
own a plane), and be nice to him. One example he cited was that the
mechanic has a lot of leeway on how he fixes your place (within the
regulations of course). The example he used was if you engine required
a valve job, and you pissed him off, he would do the usual job of
pulling the heads and replace the valves, a very expensive repair.
But if the mechanic likes you he can do a "Tijuana valve job" which
was basically removing the valve covers, putting the stem of the valve
in a drill, and spinning the valve grinding it against the heads. In a
lot of cases, the valves seated "much better" after this process
negating the need to replace the valves. This procedure probably ran a
few hundred dollars at the time rather than the $1000 to $2000 for the
"real" valve job.
Of course valves were made of much softer metal back then.
Neal
Neal.
Neal
Greg Goss
>In fifth grade (1958, I guess) my teacher explained that rockets work by
>pushing against the air behind them. I said, no, it's that the open rear
>of the nozzle affords nothing to counter the force pushing in the opposite
>direction (forward) -- or else they would not work in space. No go, of
>course, because she was The Teacher. From a little village in Minnesota;
>I hope she knew more about fishing.
The argument with my elementary school teacher sent me to the
principal.
"Miss [whoever] appreciates your feedback, but the class works better
if you give her the correction later, rather than in front of the
whole class."
"But she was teaching something WRONG. And she wouldn't listen to
someone who knew the right answer. Later, all those other students
would remember the wrong thing."
I'm still pretty idealistic that way. But walking out of class to
fetch a book from the library is pretty aggressive for a grade three
(?) student.
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27