the Oscar Wilde connection
Alastair Gordon
occasionally, but haven't seen this).
As Blakes' 7 fans, we all have our favorite elements of the program. For
me, besides the premise, the actors, etc., it's the dialogue. To me, the
dialogue, with all of it's witticisms and proverbs, sounds like it could
have come from the pen of Oscar Wilde. You know what I mean: Avon's quips,
Vila's one-liners... Has anyone else noticed this?
Paul Edwards
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In my opinion, our western culture has only in the past 30 years amounted
to anything worth crowing about. Oscar Wilde was crap. So were all
the oldies. The music was crap, the jokes were crap, the books almost
all crap too. If you have ever seen the magazine "Punch", you can see the
old comics, and new jokes to go with the old pictures. Compare the old
jokes with the new jokes. Shocking. You can compare adult jokes of 100
years ago with children's jokes of today at the age of 5 or less, if you
want
to see how "well" their sense of humour was developed. Or compare
western adults with most of the non-western cultures, same difference.
Actually, not even non-western, non-English-speaking. You don't have to
go very far onto the continent to find people for whom the comic
revolution is just something that happened to other people (to quote
Blackadder).
BFN. Paul.
Simon Slavin
"Alastair Gordon" <lu...@sky.diamond.com> wrote:
> As Blakes' 7 fans, we all have our favorite elements of the program. For
> me, besides the premise, the actors, etc., it's the dialogue. To me, the
> dialogue, with all of it's witticisms and proverbs, sounds like it could
> have come from the pen of Oscar Wilde. You know what I mean: Avon's quips,
> Vila's one-liners... Has anyone else noticed this?
The dialogue was good. That's why there are almost as many
_B7_ quotes sites as there are _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_
quotes sites. I actually thought you were going to mention
the other, slightly more obscure, Oscar Wilde connection.
Simon.
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Alastair Gordon
I actually thought you were going to mention
>the other, slightly more obscure, Oscar Wilde connection.
OK, I must not be thinking. What is it?
Rob Wynne
I don't know that I'd call it "obscure", but the first episode of Season 4
is essentially a remake of "The Picture of Dorian Gray". They even named
the character Dorian. <g>
Rob
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"Paul Edwards" <kerr...@nosppaam.w3.to> wrote in message
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> In my opinion, our western culture has only in the past 30 years amounted
> to anything worth crowing about. Oscar Wilde was crap. So were all
> the oldies. The music was crap, the jokes were crap, the books almost
> all crap too. If you have ever seen the magazine "Punch", you can see the
> old comics, and new jokes to go with the old pictures. Compare the old
> jokes with the new jokes. Shocking. You can compare adult jokes of 100
> years ago with children's jokes of today at the age of 5 or less, if you
> want
> to see how "well" their sense of humour was developed. Or compare
> western adults with most of the non-western cultures, same difference.
> Actually, not even non-western, non-English-speaking. You don't have to
> go very far onto the continent to find people for whom the comic
> revolution is just something that happened to other people (to quote
> Blackadder).
And in 30 years time a lot of today's comedy will be regarded as crap by the
people of 2030. I happen to think that Porridge is absolutely brilliant,
but I bet many young people today find it boring and totally unfunny.
It's all a matter of perspective.
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Alastair Gordon
Paul Edwards
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> Alastair Gordon <lu...@sky.diamond.com> wrote:
>
> >I actually thought you were going to mention
> >>the other, slightly more obscure, Oscar Wilde connection.
> >OK, I must not be thinking. What is it?
>
> I don't know that I'd call it "obscure", but the first episode of Season 4
> is essentially a remake of "The Picture of Dorian Gray". They even named
> the character Dorian. <g>
I've read the book (which is crap) and watched the episode (which has
some crap bits in it, they normally don't have this magical stuff in B7),
and the two are not related in the least. BFN. Paul.
Rob Wynne
>> is essentially a remake of "The Picture of Dorian Gray". They even named
>> the character Dorian. <g>
>I've read the book (which is crap) and watched the episode (which has
>some crap bits in it, they normally don't have this magical stuff in B7),
>and the two are not related in the least. BFN. Paul.
Well, maybe when you grow up, you can read an edition of the book that
isn't mostly pictures, and then you'll see the parallels.
Ta-ta.
*plonk*
Paul Edwards
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>
> "Paul Edwards" <kerr...@nosppaam.w3.to> wrote in message
> news:g2Ix5.13681$tj4.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> > In my opinion, our western culture has only in the past 30 years
amounted
> > to anything worth crowing about. Oscar Wilde was crap. So were all
> > the oldies. The music was crap, the jokes were crap, the books almost
> And in 30 years time a lot of today's comedy will be regarded as crap by
the
> people of 2030.
Maybe not a lot, but certainly some of today's comedy IS crap. But stuff
like Fawlty Towers will never be crap to anyone with a brain.
> I happen to think that Porridge is absolutely brilliant,
> but I bet many young people today find it boring and totally unfunny.
>
> It's all a matter of perspective.
I have seen some older stuff long after it was released, e.g. "Last of
the Australians" and "Fawlty Towers" (both of which I first saw in
about 1988), and they are both excellent. Sure, the fridges may
look funny, but the comedy was never in the fridges. Hell, Blackadder I
was set in historical times, it's not about period, it's about enormous
brainpower being directed at the field of comedy, not unlike enormous
brainpower being spent at developing computers, nuclear bombs,
spacecraft etc.
Pygmalion has lasted something like 100 years. And that's about it.
Just face it, the comedians of today are like the sportsmen of today,
far superior compared to their ancestors in the main. It wasn't that
way with science, there were great people in the olden days. Even
thousands of years ago we can recognize their achievements. They
just didn't have a sense of humour worth a damn.
There are other things we are doing right now that are completely
ridiculous, and will be seen as such in years to come. E.g. why don't
the British have a laundry room instead of putting the washing machine
in the kitchen? Even on a NEW big house, or a NEW unit? Totally
insane. There is no reason for the current great comedies to be any
different from Einstein's Theory of Relativity or Newton's Laws,
there is nothing wrong with them. The authors had the necessary
brainpower.
BFN. Paul.
Paul Edwards
> Paul Edwards <kerr...@nosppaam.w3.to> wrote:
> >Rob Wynne <d...@america.net> wrote in message
> >> I don't know that I'd call it "obscure", but the first episode of
Season 4
> >> is essentially a remake of "The Picture of Dorian Gray". They even
named
> >> the character Dorian. <g>
> >I've read the book (which is crap) and watched the episode (which has
> >some crap bits in it, they normally don't have this magical stuff in B7),
> >and the two are not related in the least. BFN. Paul.
>
> Well, maybe when you grow up, you can read an edition of the book that
> isn't mostly pictures, and then you'll see the parallels.
I think you have confused "The Picture of Dorian Gray" with a copy of
Playboy, and "Blake's 7" with "Debbie Does Dallas". No wonder you
were able to draw parallels. Do you happen to do drugs? Because
there is another explanation I can think of. BFN. Paul.
Simon Slavin
Rob Wynne <d...@america.net> wrote:
> Alastair Gordon <lu...@sky.diamond.com> wrote:
>
> >>I actually thought you were going to mention
> >>the other, slightly more obscure, Oscar Wilde connection.
> >
> >OK, I must not be thinking. What is it?
>
> I don't know that I'd call it "obscure", but the first episode of Season 4
> is essentially a remake of "The Picture of Dorian Gray". They even named
> the character Dorian. <g>
Come on, Rob, you can do better than that ! Urge him to find
the book and read it. It's a wonderful book if you can adapt
to the social setting: dramatic and sneaky with a dark villain
and several innocent bystanders who get harmed through no fault
of their own. The plot kind-of sneaks up on you.
It's also one of the few mould-breakers of science-fiction: an
SF book which lots of non-sf readers read before they
remembered that they didn't like SF. Frequently reprinted and
almost certainly available from your local library.
Alastair Gordon
episodes that were less blatant but which displayed that Wilde-ish taste.
~Beast
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Trevor Gensch
<kerr...@nosppaam.w3.to> gushed forth from their keyboard and spilled
out into alt.fan.blakes-7 the following:
>Rob Wynne <d...@america.net> wrote in message
>news:qxmy5.668$fa2....@eagle.america.net...
>> Alastair Gordon <lu...@sky.diamond.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I actually thought you were going to mention
>> >>the other, slightly more obscure, Oscar Wilde connection.
>> >OK, I must not be thinking. What is it?
>>
>> I don't know that I'd call it "obscure", but the first episode of Season 4
>> is essentially a remake of "The Picture of Dorian Gray". They even named
>> the character Dorian. <g>
>
>I've read the book (which is crap)
ahem...
> and watched the episode (which has
>some crap bits in it, they normally don't have this magical stuff in B7),
>and the two are not related in the least. BFN. Paul.
Read it again.
Trev.
ICQ No. 1802780
Web Page http://web.one.net.au/~trevorgensch
Ian Lay
> Maybe not a lot, but certainly some of today's comedy IS crap. But stuff
> like Fawlty Towers will never be crap to anyone with a brain.
You don't have to have a brain to appreciate Fawlty Towers. And just
because someone doesn't like it doesn't mean they don't have a brain. I
quite like Fawlty Towers, but I much prefer Cleese in Monty Python.
One tends to appreciate the type of comedy they grew up with. Not always
but generally. It's just the same with music. That's why 60 year olds
don't tend to like the same music that 20 year olds do.
Just a thought.
> I have seen some older stuff long after it was released, e.g. "Last of
> the Australians" and "Fawlty Towers" (both of which I first saw in
> about 1988), and they are both excellent. Sure, the fridges may
> look funny, but the comedy was never in the fridges. Hell, Blackadder I
> was set in historical times, it's not about period, it's about enormous
> brainpower being directed at the field of comedy, not unlike enormous
> brainpower being spent at developing computers, nuclear bombs,
> spacecraft etc.
Sorry but comedy isn't about just brainpower. Clever comedy isn't
necessarily funny comedy. And people tend to have different tastes so what
suits one doesn't suit another. Naked Gun for example is about actor timing
and delivery of the joke far more than the joke itself. The jokes in Naked
Gun could be said to be corny at times but it's the delivery of the lines
with the facial expressions to go with it that makes the jokes so funny.
Now that's the skill of the actor not the barinpower behind the writing of
the comedy.
> Pygmalion has lasted something like 100 years. And that's about it.
> Just face it, the comedians of today are like the sportsmen of today,
> far superior compared to their ancestors in the main. It wasn't that
> way with science, there were great people in the olden days. Even
> thousands of years ago we can recognize their achievements. They
> just didn't have a sense of humour worth a damn.
Because the language used 100 years ago, 200 years ago, 300 years ago was
different for start. Also a lot of comedy is done to situations that people
can relate to. Hence "Situation Comedy". You use the example of
Blackadder, but Blackadder is the recreation of how we perceive the past in
a comedy situation. Just imagine 2.4 Children written 200 years and shown
to people of the time. They would find it funny, but we probably wouldn't
because we couldn't relate to the situation.
And some would say that Shakespear's comedies have lasted somewhat. Do you
think that in 300 years time (for example) people will be making films (or
whatever the entertainment of the day is) based on comedies from the 20th
century comedian Ben Elton. I don't, but I maybe wrong.
> There are other things we are doing right now that are completely
> ridiculous, and will be seen as such in years to come. E.g. why don't
> the British have a laundry room instead of putting the washing machine
> in the kitchen? Even on a NEW big house, or a NEW unit? Totally
> insane.
I take it from this you are not British then? ;-) Again it's what we've
grown up with. Everybody is not the same, and to be frank it would be
pretty boring if we were all the same. All of us with laundry rooms, with
the same love for comedy, the same love for science fiction.
> There is no reason for the current great comedies to be any
> different from Einstein's Theory of Relativity or Newton's Laws,
> there is nothing wrong with them. The authors had the necessary
> brainpower.
I'm not doubting that but to be beleive that people of 200, 300 years ago
didn't have the brainpower and we do is rather poor argument. not merely
the fact that in 60 years time someone like yourself may well be saying the
same thing about things like Fawlty Towers. They may say how the people of
2000 wouldn't appreciate the comedy of 2060 because they didn't have the
brainpower.
There will come a day when we have "advanced" enough that comedy may only be
the kind of thing you enjoy if you *don't * have the brainpower.
Matthew Wilson
<kerr...@nosppaam.w3.to> wrote:
>There are other things we are doing right now that are completely
>ridiculous, and will be seen as such in years to come. E.g. why don't
>the British have a laundry room instead of putting the washing machine
>in the kitchen? Even on a NEW big house, or a NEW unit? Totally
>insane.
Why do the Americans need a whole room to do laundry in, when they
could easily just fit it in the kitchen?
Matthew
Paul Edwards
>
> > Maybe not a lot, but certainly some of today's comedy IS crap. But
stuff
> > like Fawlty Towers will never be crap to anyone with a brain.
>
To appreciate the true humour in it, you do. Sure, some will get laughs
from the slapstick. Same as the Young Ones in fact. There is a class
of people who don't find these things funny, because they're not children,
so don't like slapstick, but fail to miss the entire subtle show.
> because someone doesn't like it doesn't mean they don't have a brain. I
> quite like Fawlty Towers, but I much prefer Cleese in Monty Python.
There's a lot of crap in Monty Python. "Life of Brian" was absolutely
fantastic, but a lot of the other stuff is very weak.
> One tends to appreciate the type of comedy they grew up with. Not always
This is simply not true. Like the Monty Python stuff, some of it is crap,
some of it is good. I saw it both around the same time!
And even my grandmother admitted she had become more sophisticated,
the stuff she thought was funny 30 (or whatever) years ago she doesn't
think is funny now. It's really true!
> but generally. It's just the same with music. That's why 60 year olds
> don't tend to like the same music that 20 year olds do.
That's because they're brain-dead in music. I was not even born when
the Rolling Stones started releasing decent music, and I thought rock
music was noise when I was even 12 years old. It was only after that
that I found out that it wasn't, and suddenly I had about 20 years of
rock music at my disposal. In actual fact, I had been brought up at
school on classical music. They never taught or encouraged rock
music, it was always classical, classical, classical. And that is crap
music.
But actually, there is a (large) class of people who like classical music,
and that is something that our ancestors have managed to do for a few
centuries.
> Just a thought.
>
> > I have seen some older stuff long after it was released, e.g. "Last of
> > the Australians" and "Fawlty Towers" (both of which I first saw in
> > about 1988), and they are both excellent. Sure, the fridges may
> > look funny, but the comedy was never in the fridges. Hell, Blackadder I
> > was set in historical times, it's not about period, it's about enormous
> > brainpower being directed at the field of comedy, not unlike enormous
> > brainpower being spent at developing computers, nuclear bombs,
> > spacecraft etc.
>
> Sorry but comedy isn't about just brainpower. Clever comedy isn't
> necessarily funny comedy. And people tend to have different tastes so
what
> suits one doesn't suit another. Naked Gun for example is about actor
timing
> and delivery of the joke far more than the joke itself. The jokes in
Naked
> Gun could be said to be corny at times but it's the delivery of the lines
> with the facial expressions to go with it that makes the jokes so funny.
Yes, but they would have deliberately planned it to be like that.
> Now that's the skill of the actor not the barinpower behind the writing of
> the comedy.
Brainpower of the actor/writer.
> > Pygmalion has lasted something like 100 years. And that's about it.
> > Just face it, the comedians of today are like the sportsmen of today,
> > far superior compared to their ancestors in the main. It wasn't that
> > way with science, there were great people in the olden days. Even
> > thousands of years ago we can recognize their achievements. They
> > just didn't have a sense of humour worth a damn.
>
> Because the language used 100 years ago, 200 years ago, 300 years ago was
> different for start. Also a lot of comedy is done to situations that
people
> can relate to. Hence "Situation Comedy".
They have shown reruns of "Drop the Dead Donkey". That requires knowledge
of the political events happening either in Britain or the world. They
prefaced
the reruns with "In a week where abc, def happened...". They are funny,
even
political events in other countries! I don't mind them prefacing a 300 year
old
comedy with "In a year where the luddites were burning down the weaving
machines..."
> You use the example of
> Blackadder, but Blackadder is the recreation of how we perceive the past
in
> a comedy situation.
The past is well documented. Even if we have perfect perception of what
it was REALLY like back then, which was mostly just completely boring
long hard work, crap food, and the only pasttime available was sex, they
could STILL have made Blackadder. There is no reason they could have
not made it.
Any more than the Young Ones was a reflection of student life. It isn't. I
was a student at the time.
> Just imagine 2.4 Children written 200 years and shown
> to people of the time. They would find it funny, but we probably wouldn't
> because we couldn't relate to the situation.
No, people 200 years ago would have been more like the Japanese of today.
Their comedies STILL ARE causing pain to people. There is absolutely
nothing preventing the Japanese from creating their own version of
Blackadder
or Fawlty Towers. Hell, where's the German version of Blackadder Goes
Forth?
You can't say they didn't have the same situation, they were only a couple
of
hundred metres away at the time! At least you can potentially argue that
the
Japanese were too far away to write Blackadder Goes Forth.
> And some would say that Shakespear's comedies have lasted somewhat. Do
you
> think that in 300 years time (for example) people will be making films (or
> whatever the entertainment of the day is) based on comedies from the 20th
> century comedian Ben Elton. I don't, but I maybe wrong.
You mean like reshooting the Young Ones? I doubt that they will need to,
they can create their own. It's actually similar to music, in that the
musicians
could actually all pack up shop right now, they have already put so much
quality rock music into the world, that you can just listen to the existing
stuff for the rest of your life. But the new stuff is still good too. Just
like
there's plenty of good food too, more yummy chicken wings than you
can possibly shove down your throat.
> > There are other things we are doing right now that are completely
> > ridiculous, and will be seen as such in years to come. E.g. why don't
> > the British have a laundry room instead of putting the washing machine
> > in the kitchen? Even on a NEW big house, or a NEW unit? Totally
> > insane.
>
> I take it from this you are not British then? ;-)
One of my passports says I am. The other says I fuck sheep for a living.
> Again it's what we've
> grown up with. Everybody is not the same, and to be frank it would be
> pretty boring if we were all the same. All of us with laundry rooms, with
All of us with immunisation to polio, smallpox, chicken pox.
All of us with sewerage, electricity, food, clothing.
Yeah, completely boring, the most interesting time of my day is when those
ads come on TV showing Africans starving to death. I hope they never
get enough donations so that that stops. Or more to the point, I hope the
Africans never adopt sensible birth control like the entire Western world
has.
> the same love for comedy, the same love for science fiction.
I have no problem with everyone loving the same comedy and science
fiction that I do. It's a sign that there's other people with good taste in
the world. I need there to be other people with good taste in the world,
otherwise there's no market for what I want, and that means I don't get
what I want.
Unfortunately I don't have the ability to make up this comedy myself.
I've tried to think of lines for stand-up, but I can't. I am able to crack
jokes in conversation, like a large portion of the native English-speaking
countries, and I can write funny stories too. Incidentally, you can see
them if you want, www.kerravon.w3.to in the gps section, all the
countries I visited I have a story about them. Start with Stockholm, it's
small and easy to digest. Don't start with Britain, it's mammoth, but
ultimately the most relevant. If you want to find out exactly what you
guys are like, it's all there.
> > There is no reason for the current great comedies to be any
> > different from Einstein's Theory of Relativity or Newton's Laws,
> > there is nothing wrong with them. The authors had the necessary
> > brainpower.
>
> I'm not doubting that but to be beleive that people of 200, 300 years ago
> didn't have the brainpower and we do is rather poor argument. not merely
> the fact that in 60 years time someone like yourself may well be saying
the
> same thing about things like Fawlty Towers. They may say how the people
of
> 2000 wouldn't appreciate the comedy of 2060 because they didn't have the
> brainpower.
I doubt it any more than they would say it about our scientists, or that we
say it about our scientists of the past, or that we say it about our
classical
music masters of the past. There are some things they had the brainpower
to do, comedy wasn't one of them.
Hell, even TODAY, the Germans have enormous brainpower, quite
possibly the smartest group of people in the world. Have you ever seen
the show "Tourist Traps". The Germans figured out it was a scam, and
the German mole commented that he wouldn't claim that Germans are
smarter than the others, just this particular group was. But actually, in
my opinion he was wrong. The Germans ARE smarter. Those people
were selected from the respective countries in the same way, to get a
representative cross-section of the population.
But when it comes to a sense of humour? Gassing Jews and watching
them fall over is about their level of sophistication.
> There will come a day when we have "advanced" enough that comedy may only
be
> the kind of thing you enjoy if you *don't * have the brainpower.
I don't agree. If you have the brainpower, and you apply it to a situation,
whether it be science of comedy, you get some sort of product out of it.
That is a brilliant achievement, that will always be a brilliant
achievement.
And the science fiction is not set in today's time either, it is not
anyone's
perception (other than the author's) of how things will be like in the
future
either. There isn't much comedy in Blake's 7. "Have you considered
amputation" comes to mind. You can't say that Blake's 7 is set in
today's context. Hell, the show was made 30 years ago or something.
I know I didn't see my first episode until 1985.
It's not about context, it's about brainpower. And most of the world
doesn't have comic brainpower. Besides the English-speakers, the
Russians do too.
From a Russian show:
Gorbachev wakes up one day with a hangover and calls out for someone
to help him, but no-one comes to his aid. Then the phone rings, it's
Eduard Shevardnadze (no, I'm not that smart, I got the spelling from an
internet search, because I'd forgotten the guy's name!). Ah, Eddie,
it's good to hear you, there doesn't appear to be anyone around. We
must have partied pretty hard last night, I hope I didn't sign any
important decrees (ha ha)? Yes, you did actually, you signed one
allowing Russians to travel freely! Oh no, does that mean you and I
are the only ones left (ha ha)? No, I'm calling from London.
BTW, most of my relos are in-laws and Chinese, and an excuse I
sometimes get from them is that jokes don't translate.
So I tell them:
Q. Why don't the Irish have ice in their drinks?
A. Because the woman who knew the recipe died.
Now which bit of that doesn't translate, and feel free to change "Irish"
to "Tibetan" etc.
And there's plenty more that don't even need any changes, like elephant
jokes, koala jokes or even that Russian joke above.
BFN. Paul.
Ian Lay
> > the same love for comedy, the same love for science fiction.
>
> I have no problem with everyone loving the same comedy and science
> fiction that I do. It's a sign that there's other people with good taste
in
> the world. I need there to be other people with good taste in the world,
> otherwise there's no market for what I want, and that means I don't get
> what I want.
I have given a lot of patience to you and I now see it was not worth while.
I deleted the rest of the message and reply I had typed, and decided to
leave just this. You are arrogant and only think of yourself. I do pray
that you are not a Kiwi (from what you said earlier) because if you are you
let down the general population of New Zealand who I 've generally found are
some of the nicest people I've ever met.
Some of your assumptions are correct but many come from not knowing nearly
as much as you think you do. There are always two sides to every story but
you just think that your story is the correct version.
--
Taz
Paul Edwards
>
> > > the same love for comedy, the same love for science fiction.
> >
> > I have no problem with everyone loving the same comedy and science
> > fiction that I do. It's a sign that there's other people with good
taste
> in
> > the world. I need there to be other people with good taste in the
world,
> > otherwise there's no market for what I want, and that means I don't get
> > what I want.
>
while.
I am forever grateful for your time. It has been an honour and a
privelege to listen to you.
> I deleted the rest of the message and reply I had typed, and decided to
> leave just this. You are arrogant and only think of yourself. I do pray
Whatever.
> that you are not a Kiwi (from what you said earlier) because if you are
you
> let down the general population of New Zealand who I 've generally found
are
> some of the nicest people I've ever met.
No, Australia. So I've let down 5 times as many people. They're all
turning in their graves too, except the ones that don't have graves yet.
Actually, I think most of them are completely unaware that I am their
nominated representative. Oh, I'm dual British as well, so multiply the
figure by 5. Oh, and I more associate myself with the English-speaking,
western world, so you can count the USA in there too, so multiply the
figure by 5 again. And if this message travels by satellite, which it
likely does, then it is in effect being broadcast interstellar, so any
aliens
watching, should realise that I am the world's representative.
When do I get paid, BTW?
> Some of your assumptions are correct but many come from not knowing nearly
> as much as you think you do. There are always two sides to every story
but
> you just think that your story is the correct version.
There were two sides to the story about whether the world was flat or not,
too. Let me guess, you were an avid member of the Flat Earth Society
before it's relatively recent collapse? BFN. Paul.
Mike Jefferies
Paul Edwards <kerr...@nosppaam.w3.to> wrote in message
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> "Ian Lay" <i...@pacific-cc.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:970228343.5985.0...@news.demon.co.uk...
> >
> > "Paul Edwards" <kerr...@nosppaam.w3.to> wrote in message
> > news:kUcA5.7498$Z06....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >
> > > > the same love for comedy, the same love for science fiction.
> > >
> > > I have no problem with everyone loving the same comedy and science
> > > fiction that I do. It's a sign that there's other people with good
> taste
> > in
> > > the world. I need there to be other people with good taste in the
> world,
> > > otherwise there's no market for what I want, and that means I don't
get
> > > what I want.
> >