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Did Roy really see the attack ships ablaze?

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Xiuhte...@worldnet.att.net

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Nov 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/29/96
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When Roy Beatty is dying, he "remembers" some great moments
of his life. I thought that Roy and the other Replicants
were based on Mars. Roy's speech sounds like he was 50
or 5,000 light-years away from Earth where he saw these
marvellous things.

Were these memories real? Or were they implanted to make
his death easier?


nex...@aol.com

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Nov 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/30/96
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<<When Roy Beatty is dying, he "remembers" some great moments
of his life. I thought that Roy and the other Replicants
were based on Mars. Roy's speech sounds like he was 50
or 5,000 light-years away from Earth where he saw these
marvellous things.>>

Who says they were based on Mars? All that is said is that they are Off
World which sounds more like they had been out in the galaxy somewhere.

Max Bantleman

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Nov 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/30/96
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In article <19961130204...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
nex...@aol.com writes
Stone Rim Colonies?
Asteroid belt, mining is also mentioned (re:Pris)


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ma...@ksc15.th.com

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Dec 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/2/96
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>Were these memories real? Or were they implanted to make
>his death easier?

I think your over anal-yzing the whole thing, but just for the record;
Roy didn't have implanted memories. Rachel was the only one who did
and did not know she was a replicant. If Roy had implanted memories
than how would he know he was a replicant. Think about it...


nex...@aol.com

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Dec 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/7/96
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p...@bf.rmit.edu.au (Paul Duncanson) writes:

<<Why not implant memories that go along the lines of "I'm a replicant, I
like being a slave - that's what replicants are for." Give a replicant
the memories of a workaholic masochist and they'll rebel if you don't work
them too hard.

Think about it...
-->>

This is over-simplistic. Now you are conflating memory and personality.
The replicant escapees are not born with memories. The memories that they
have are from their own experiences. The point of the implanted memories
was to give a replicant the buffer to deal with emotions which are these
new and alien experiences and awakenings in the replicants. The implanted
memories help them to cope. In the case of Rachel, the experiment went a
step further - she thinks she's human.

Now, if the replicants are programmed to think that they are happy slaves,
then how will this impact their effectiveness? And, how does one go about
doing this without impacting their intelligence? It seems that one manner
of doing this would be to construct memories in which the experience of
slave is pleasant. But, how will this last if present conditions do not
seem the same as the memories? Then, you have a confused replicant who
will then be unpredictable and possibly rebel.

Mauricio Dinamarca

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Dec 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/8/96
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nex...@aol.com wrote:
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> Now, if the replicants are programmed to think that they are happy slav=
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> then how will this impact their effectiveness? And, how does one go ab=


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> doing this without impacting their intelligence?

I agree with you. In Huxley's "Brave New World", the more enslaved you
were by programmed acceptance of your condition, the less intelligent
(and more robot-like) you had to be. =BFRemember the Deltas and the
Epsilons? they said "being an Alpha must be terrible!". The more
intelligent a being is, the more difficult is to program every reaction
without rebellion.

Mauricio.

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