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Womb Raider

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Sep 15, 2002, 3:04:43 AM9/15/02
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Given a choice what film-world would any of you want to live in?

I'm kind of torn between BR and SW. But Star Wars ONLY if I had my own
Empiral Destroyer to take out on weekends, otherwise it's BR all the
way.

WR

Lukas Mariman

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"Womb Raider" <wombr...@phonyaddress.com> schreef in bericht
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At least in BR you don't risk being blown to bits by a giant space station.


Evil Sponge

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"Womb Raider" <wombr...@phonyaddress.com> wrote in message
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SW would appeal more if I could be a Jedi....

Since there's a Lord of the Rings move now, I'm gonna choose that... would
be a big plus if I could be an elf or a wizard.


The log

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Sep 15, 2002, 7:57:23 AM9/15/02
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Thing about Blade Runner is that it's so polluted. The only thing that would
keep me from jumping off a high-rise would be the hope of getting off-world.

I think I'd probably agree about Star Wars. Maybe if I lived in a ship like
Solo, but had a peaceful life, not getting involved in adventures and things.


Peace,
The log

"If you plot the number of animals abused against what makes people cruel
versus intelligence of either party, the pattern is so unreadable you might as
well draw a chain of foxes heads on sticks"

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Ahmed Mahi Durgun

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Sep 15, 2002, 9:13:01 AM9/15/02
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BLADE RUNNER

or

Barry Lyndon


Lukas Mariman

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Sep 15, 2002, 10:21:19 AM9/15/02
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"Ahmed Mahi Durgun" <ahmedmah...@wanadoo.nl> schreef in bericht
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> BLADE RUNNER
>
> or
>
> Barry Lyndon

I haven't seen "Barry Lyndon", but even if I had, my vote would still go to
BR, for several reasons.

First, I prefer SF & fantasy over "period movies" any time. I've heard great
hings about BL, and I'm sure it is a great movie, but I don't see how it
could compete with BR in terms of mindblowing visuals, for instance.

Anyway, all this is of course purely subjective. It's like comparing apples
and oranges... :-)


Patrick Meaney

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"Womb Raider" <wombr...@phonyaddress.com> wrote in message
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I'd have to go with Star Wars. 2019 would probably be nice to visit, but it could get
oppressive after a while. Star Wars has a variety of planets, and they all seem to be
pretty nice. Plus, routine space travel would be beyond great.
--
Patrick

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StainlessSteelRat

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Sep 15, 2002, 12:02:50 PM9/15/02
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I guess, as the others say, it depends on lot who you could be in that world. If I could be a Blade
Runner (ideally not Holden) it would have to be BR.

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Ahmed Mahi Durgun

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"Lukas Mariman" <lukas....@skynet.be> schreef in bericht
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Well, it's this
I don't really like science fiction worlds or whatever other future stuff.
Except the BR world. I really do love that one.
As for Barry Lyndon. I love the period when people weared those wigs.
And I love JS Bach. AND Stanley Kubrick is my favorite director.
The film's in my top 3 along with The Shining and Blade Runner. I absolutely
adore it. Everything about the cinematography and the story.
But since it's impossible to go back in time, BR stands the number 1.

btw. I find the visuals mindblowing. (especially the visuals)


Ahmed Mahi Durgun

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Sep 15, 2002, 1:11:07 PM9/15/02
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ignore the faulty language in the previous post


Mr. Pink

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Sep 15, 2002, 1:22:02 PM9/15/02
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Lukas Mariman wrote:

If you lived in BR world, wouldn't you want to make sure you lived off world?

What we see in BR looks like a very interesting place to visit, but I really
don't think I'd want to live there.

Lukas Mariman

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"Mr. Pink" <MrP...@KBilly.soundsofthe70s> schreef in bericht
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Hey, any city where you can hear Vangelis playing in the background surely
can't be all bad. ;-)


czf

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I think I'd like to live on ST:TNG's pleasure planet, what's it called?
Rigel?

czf


StainlessSteelRat

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Sep 16, 2002, 2:46:58 AM9/16/02
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Lukas Mariman wrote:
> Hey, any city where you can hear Vangelis playing in the background surely
> can't be all bad. ;-)

Hmmm, you mean you don't hear him all the time anyway? <Makes mental note to visit Psychiatrist
again>

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StainlessSteelRat

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czf wrote:
> I think I'd like to live on ST:TNG's pleasure planet, what's it called?
> Rigel?

Yep. Strangely enough, isn't that the little frog creature out of Farscape as well?

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Evil Sponge

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"czf" <rac...@deckards.piano> wrote in message
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Risa....... I considered that as well...... could be rather splendid....

Replicators and Holodecks are ver appealing as well......

Hmmmmm...... if I had a holodeck, I could recreate The Lord of the
Rings..... and BR..... I think I'm gonna change my vote : )


Evil Sponge

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It's impossible to go forward in time, except at the current slow rate which
we now experience....


Lukas Mariman

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> Lukas Mariman wrote:
> > Hey, any city where you can hear Vangelis playing in the background
surely
> > can't be all bad. ;-)
>
> Hmmm, you mean you don't hear him all the time anyway? <Makes mental note
to visit Psychiatrist
> again>

Unfortunately, no.


Lukas Mariman

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"StainlessSteelRat" <stainsteelratmy...@hotmail.com> schreef in
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> czf wrote:
> > I think I'd like to live on ST:TNG's pleasure planet, what's it called?
> > Rigel?
>
> Yep. Strangely enough, isn't that the little frog creature out of Farscape
as well?

Combine the two, and scary thoughts enter the mind. ;-)


Lukas Mariman

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> Lukas Mariman wrote:
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> > "Womb Raider" <wombr...@phonyaddress.com> schreef in bericht
> > news:150920020304439332%wombr...@phonyaddress.com...
> > > Given a choice what film-world would any of you want to live in?
> > >
> > > I'm kind of torn between BR and SW. But Star Wars ONLY if I had my own
> > > Empiral Destroyer to take out on weekends, otherwise it's BR all the
> > > way.
> >
> > At least in BR you don't risk being blown to bits by a giant space
station.
>
> If you lived in BR world, wouldn't you want to make sure you lived off
world?

Perhaps - but for all we know, things might actually be worse off-world.


Womb Raider

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Sep 16, 2002, 5:05:07 AM9/16/02
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In article <3d84f111$1$215$ba62...@news.skynet.be>, Lukas Mariman
<lukas....@skynet.be> wrote:

> > If you lived in BR world, wouldn't you want to make sure you lived off
> world?

Hmm. That depends on what it's like there. If it's like I imagine then
no, not really :)

Wr

Womb Raider

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In article <WHah9.491510$UU1.79097@sccrnsc03>, czf
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> I think I'd like to live on ST:TNG's pleasure planet, what's it called?
> Rigel?
>
> czf

Isn't Rigel the name of the little yoda guy on Farscape?

WR

Evil Sponge

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"Lukas Mariman" <lukas....@skynet.be> wrote in message
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>
> "StainlessSteelRat" <stainsteelratmy...@hotmail.com> schreef
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> bericht news:3d857e89$0$23627$4d4e...@news.ch.uu.net...
> > czf wrote:
> > > I think I'd like to live on ST:TNG's pleasure planet, what's it
called?
> > > Rigel?
> >
> > Yep.

It's Risa, isn't it?

Strangely enough, isn't that the little frog creature out of Farscape
> as well?

Yeah.... Rigel is a star.... maybe he's from there.... isn't he a king or
something?

StainlessSteelRat

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Sep 16, 2002, 5:53:09 AM9/16/02
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Evil Sponge wrote:
>>>> I think I'd like to live on ST:TNG's pleasure planet, what's it called?
>>>> Rigel?
>>>
>>> Yep.
>
> It's Risa, isn't it?

Yep, I was wrong. But I'm sure Rigel figures somewhere in ST.

> Strangely enough, isn't that the little frog creature out of Farscape
>> as well?
>
> Yeah.... Rigel is a star.... maybe he's from there.... isn't he a king or
> something?

A Dominar of 8 gazillion people, or so he keeps saying.

>> Combine the two, and scary thoughts enter the mind. ;-)

Absolutely!

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Evil Sponge

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"StainlessSteelRat" <stainsteelratmy...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Evil Sponge wrote:
> >>>> I think I'd like to live on ST:TNG's pleasure planet, what's it
called?
> >>>> Rigel?
> >>>
> >>> Yep.
> >
> > It's Risa, isn't it?
>
> Yep, I was wrong. But I'm sure Rigel figures somewhere in ST.
>

ST uses many real life stars, I think...


Lukas Mariman

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> > Netrunner.
> > Okay, who was that? I distinctly heard someone say "SciFi Nerd".
> > Right nobody is leaving until someone owns up!
>
> Not me guv!

I bet it's one of the smokers in this group.


Netrunner

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>Given a choice what film-world would any of you want to live in?
>
>I'm kind of torn between BR and SW. But Star Wars ONLY if I had my own
>Empiral Destroyer to take out on weekends, otherwise it's BR all the
>way.

BR's L.A. 2019 looks like a horrible place to live. Miserable, dying
world. Pollution, acid rain, results of some disaster. Obvious lack
of positive social changes. Advanced technology still in the hands of
nasty, out-of-control corporations. What a horrible place!

Most of the film worlds seem to me to be places where having lots of
money is useful in really enjoying the world and not suffering. Like
the idea of living in medieval times or something - all very well if
you're a noble, but not much fun for the 99.9% of people who are
downtrodden peasants...

The drama that is reqired for films almost makes it necessary that
something bad happens in whichever world. Somebody being nasty,
invading aliens, psychos and lunatics, etc. If one can live in a
world and also choose the character, I think being one of the spaced
out aliens in Heavy Metal might be cool. Or maybe the boy Den who
gets transported to another world and transformed ....

Netrunner
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"Wow, nothing for 16 years and then twice in one day."
- Den, 'Heavy Metal'

Netrunner

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>>>>> I think I'd like to live on ST:TNG's pleasure planet, what's it called?
>>>>> Rigel?
>>>>
>>>> Yep.
>>
>> It's Risa, isn't it?
>
>Yep, I was wrong. But I'm sure Rigel figures somewhere in ST.

Yes, it is Risa. But even Risa has criminals, etc. And you have to
pay for pleasure...

It is in Star Trek as the real Star system that we know. Of course
the planets around it are fictional.... maybe....


>
>> Strangely enough, isn't that the little frog creature out of Farscape
>>> as well?
>>
>> Yeah.... Rigel is a star.... maybe he's from there.... isn't he a king or
>> something?
>
>A Dominar of 8 gazillion people, or so he keeps saying.

Dominar of six hundred billion. Well he WAS... Can't remember
offhand what system that was, but I don't think it had anything to do
with Rigel, the star. (They are after all in such a distant place in
the universe, they cannot see our solar system.


>
>>> Combine the two, and scary thoughts enter the mind. ;-)
>
>Absolutely!

Rigel on Risa? Well he certainly likes his pleasure... And
presumably he wouldn't have casue to get frightened which has that
unfortunate side effect...

StainlessSteelRat

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Netrunner wrote:
> Dominar of six hundred billion. Well he WAS... Can't remember
> offhand what system that was, but I don't think it had anything to do
> with Rigel, the star. (They are after all in such a distant place in
> the universe, they cannot see our solar system.

I'm not sure he ever mentioned the systems. Rigel really gets on my nerves actually, he's so bloody
nasty at times! His characterisation seems very confusing, but I guess it makes a change from the
normal goody-two-shoes characters.

> Rigel on Risa? Well he certainly likes his pleasure... And
> presumably he wouldn't have casue to get frightened which has that
> unfortunate side effect...

LOL.

I've just recently got in to Farscape. It's damn good.

> Netrunner.
> Okay, who was that? I distinctly heard someone say "SciFi Nerd".
> Right nobody is leaving until someone owns up!

Not me guv!

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StainlessSteelRat
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StainlessSteelRat

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M L Rush wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, StainlessSteelRat wrote

>
>>> Dominar of six hundred billion. Well he WAS... Can't remember
>>> offhand what system that was, but I don't think it had anything to do
>>> with Rigel, the star. (They are after all in such a distant place in
>>> the universe, they cannot see our solar system.
>
>> I'm not sure he ever mentioned the systems. Rigel really gets on my
>> nerves actually, he's so bloody
>> nasty at times! His characterisation seems very confusing, but I guess
>> it makes a change from the
>> normal goody-two-shoes characters.
>
> <delurk>
>
> Rygel would probably kick your shins if he saw you all spelling his name
> wrong.
>
> And he's from Hyneria. Apparently. ;)
>
> </delurk>

LOL, OK. Well spotted :o)

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special eggnog out of bourbon and ice cubes." -- Fry


M L Rush

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On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, StainlessSteelRat wrote

>> Dominar of six hundred billion. Well he WAS... Can't remember
>> offhand what system that was, but I don't think it had anything to do
>> with Rigel, the star. (They are after all in such a distant place in
>> the universe, they cannot see our solar system.

>I'm not sure he ever mentioned the systems. Rigel really gets on my
>nerves actually, he's so bloody
>nasty at times! His characterisation seems very confusing, but I guess
>it makes a change from the
>normal goody-two-shoes characters.

<delurk>

Rygel would probably kick your shins if he saw you all spelling his name
wrong.

And he's from Hyneria. Apparently. ;)

</delurk>
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M L Rush

czf

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"M L Rush" <m...@encom.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> <delurk>
>
> Rygel would probably kick your shins if he saw you all spelling his name
> wrong.
>
> And he's from Hyneria. Apparently. ;)
>
> </delurk>

(grabs M L Rush before s/he can get away)

Aw! C'mon! Come play with us!

Your cloaking device has been confiscated.

So, if I have this all correct, ST:TNG pleasure planet is Risa, and the
Farscape character is Rygel.

That means I'd choose *Risa* as my preferred film world (yeah, I know, it's
actually a television program, but give me a little wiggle room on this
one).

I've never seen Farscape (just shoot me now). Since you are so well versed
on the subject, would I get along with Rygel? If you've been lurking long,
you'd know me by now ;-)

czf


Mellorman

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"Netrunner" <Netr...@Netrunner.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> Dominar of six hundred billion. Well he WAS... Can't remember
> offhand what system that was, but I don't think it had anything to do
> with Rigel, the star. (They are after all in such a distant place in
> the universe, they cannot see our solar system.
>

Well, he was a Hinerian, so if you all look up Hineria in your HHGTTG we can
put this one to bed.

Incidently, I hear Farscape has been canned (Virginia Hey *keeps* emailing
me... [sigh]) which is a shame, IMO.

MM


Mellorman

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"Netrunner" <Netr...@Netrunner.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> Like
> the idea of living in medieval times or something - all very well if
> you're a noble, but not much fun for the 99.9% of people who are
> downtrodden peasants...
>

ARTHUR: I am your king!

WOMAN: Well, I didn't vote for you.

..no hang on, I've already done that one twice this year. Never mind...


StainlessSteelRat

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Well I heard the recent seasons were going nowhere. I'm only up to the middle of Season 3.

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Leela: Actually, it did. But thank God nuclear winter cancelled it out.


czf

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> "Netrunner" <Netr...@Netrunner.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> > Like
> > the idea of living in medieval times or something - all very well if
> > you're a noble, but not much fun for the 99.9% of people who are
> > downtrodden peasants...

Disease and pestilence don't discriminate.

Give me penicillin or give me death! Literally.

czf


Mellorman

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>
>
> It's impossible to go forward in time, except at the current slow rate
which
> we now experience....
>
>

Umm, not true. But I'll let Netrunner explain the finer points...


RoyBoy

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> > Womb Raider <wombr...@phonyaddress.com> wrote in message
> > > Given a choice what film-world would any of you want to live in?
> >
> > The latest STNG movie.
> >
> >
>
> and then you can visit me on Risa, my choice.
>
> czf

Nifty! Not sure what I would be doing in that Universe
though...job wise and living wise. Ehehehe...centuries
into the future and still stymied by basic questions of
place and purpose.


czf

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RoyBoy

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Mellorman <father.vivi...@st.alphonsos.pancake.breakfast>

I'll field this one! When you fall asleep, or are otherwise
unconscious, you fall through time much faster than
what you are now experiencing.


Ahmed Mahi Durgun

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ooooooookaayh?


Patrick Meaney

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"RoyBoy" <armage...@email.NOSPAMTHX.com> wrote in message news:3Snh9.54109

>
> Nifty! Not sure what I would be doing in that Universe
> though...job wise and living wise. Ehehehe...centuries
> into the future and still stymied by basic questions of
> place and purpose.
>

Hopefully by that point we'll have robots doing all the work, and all humans will be
wealthy, and able to do anything they want.
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Mellorman

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"RoyBoy" <armage...@email.NOSPAMTHX.com> wrote in message
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Well that wasn't quite what I was thinking of (I was just making a reference
to relativity, which can be demonstrated even on little ol' Earth) but what
the hey!

MM


Evil Sponge

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"Mellorman" <father.vivi...@st.alphonsos.pancake.breakfast> wrote in
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Ok, I'm aware of such things, but not familiar with the exact mechanics....

If you can explain how to transport me instantly to 2019, I'll be
impressed....


czf

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> <delurk>
>
> Rygel would probably kick your shins if he saw you all spelling his name
> wrong.
>
> And he's from Hyneria. Apparently. ;)
>
> </delurk>

(grabs M L Rush before s/he can get away)

M L Rush

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On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, czf wrote

>Your cloaking device has been confiscated.

Where do I pick it up from later?

>So, if I have this all correct, ST:TNG pleasure planet is Risa, and the
>Farscape character is Rygel.

Correct.

>That means I'd choose *Risa* as my preferred film world (yeah, I know, it's
>actually a television program, but give me a little wiggle room on this
>one).

They made it (the same universe) into films, so I'm sure it counts.

>I've never seen Farscape (just shoot me now).

I liked it more in the first two years.

>Since you are so well versed
>on the subject, would I get along with Rygel?

Rygel is small, irritating, avaricious and opinionated, with an
antisocial habit or two. (The hero character calls him 'Sparky', which
annoys him greatly.) You might get along with him for a while, but as
soon as your back is turned he would try to steal your BR DVD. ;)

>If you've been lurking long,
>you'd know me by now ;-)

I believe you have more in common with Aeryn Sun (another Farscape
character).
--
M L Rush

Mr. Pink

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Netrunner wrote:

> >Given a choice what film-world would any of you want to live in?
> >
> >I'm kind of torn between BR and SW. But Star Wars ONLY if I had my own
> >Empiral Destroyer to take out on weekends, otherwise it's BR all the
> >way.
>
> BR's L.A. 2019 looks like a horrible place to live. Miserable, dying
> world. Pollution, acid rain, results of some disaster. Obvious lack
> of positive social changes. Advanced technology still in the hands of
> nasty, out-of-control corporations. What a horrible place!
>
> Most of the film worlds seem to me to be places where having lots of
> money is useful in really enjoying the world and not suffering. Like
> the idea of living in medieval times or something - all very well if
> you're a noble, but not much fun for the 99.9% of people who are
> downtrodden peasants...
>

I'm not even sure it would be so great if you were noble. You'd still live
fairly poorly by today's standards and the church had way too much power.

>
> The drama that is reqired for films almost makes it necessary that
> something bad happens in whichever world. Somebody being nasty,
> invading aliens, psychos and lunatics, etc. If one can live in a
> world and also choose the character, I think being one of the spaced
> out aliens in Heavy Metal might be cool. Or maybe the boy Den who
> gets transported to another world and transformed ....
>

What's wrong with being Harry Canyon or Taarna (except for the sex-change
part)? Or even the Loc-Nar itself?

Capt. Sternn seems to have himself a pretty sweet deal. He's got "an
angle".

>
> Netrunner
> --
> "Wow, nothing for 16 years and then twice in one day."
> - Den, 'Heavy Metal'

Capt. Sternn: "Oh....and Hanover."

Hanover Fists "Yes boss..."

Sternn: "Goodbye Hanover."

Mr. Pink

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Lukas Mariman wrote:

> "Mr. Pink" <MrP...@KBilly.soundsofthe70s> schreef in bericht
> news:3D84C1BD...@KBilly.soundsofthe70s...
> > Lukas Mariman wrote:
> >
> > > "Womb Raider" <wombr...@phonyaddress.com> schreef in bericht
> > > news:150920020304439332%wombr...@phonyaddress.com...


> > > > Given a choice what film-world would any of you want to live in?
> > > >
> > > > I'm kind of torn between BR and SW. But Star Wars ONLY if I had my own
> > > > Empiral Destroyer to take out on weekends, otherwise it's BR all the
> > > > way.
> > >

> > > At least in BR you don't risk being blown to bits by a giant space
> station.
> >
> > If you lived in BR world, wouldn't you want to make sure you lived off
> world?
>
> Perhaps - but for all we know, things might actually be worse off-world.

While none of these are conclusive evidence that it's better off world, it sure
seems to be the general impression:

One clue is the Off-World ad, but then what makes me think you can believe
advertising in 2019 anymore than you can today.

Deckard does wonder why the replicants would choose to come here though, and
although maybe you can explain that by the fact that they're gonna have blade
runners all over them trying to retire them, but I always took it to mean earth
was a pretty crappy place to live, comparatively.

Sebastian's reply to Pris's question as to why he was still on earth: Yeah, I
couldn't pass the medical. Anyway, I kind of like it here.

Now, Pris has been off world. Maybe she knows it is worse, but also knows that
everyone "on" world thinks it's better off world.

But then again, if it were a lie that it was better off world, how do they keep
them all off?

Perhaps there is no off world, and it's all just a government conspiracy to
control the population? (read The Wanting Seed by Anthony Burgess to give you
all sorts of ideas of the lengths the gov't will go to to control population.)

czf

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"M L Rush" <m...@encom.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> <delurk>
>
> Rygel would probably kick your shins if he saw you all spelling his name
> wrong.
>
> And he's from Hyneria. Apparently. ;)
>
> </delurk>

(grabs M L Rush before s/he can get away)

Aw! C'mon! Come play with us!

Your cloaking device has been confiscated.

So, if I have this all correct, ST:TNG pleasure planet is Risa, and the
Farscape character is Rygel.

That means I'd choose *Risa* as my preferred film world (yeah, I know, it's


actually a television program, but give me a little wiggle room on this
one).

I've never seen Farscape (just shoot me now). Since you are so well versed
on the subject, would I get along with Rygel? If you've been lurking long,


you'd know me by now ;-)

czf


czf

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> <delurk>
>
> Rygel would probably kick your shins if he saw you all spelling his name
> wrong.
>
> And he's from Hyneria. Apparently. ;)
>
> </delurk>

(grabs M L Rush before s/he can get away)

Patrick Meaney

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"Mr. Pink" <MrP...@KBilly.soundsofthe70s> wrote in message

>
> Perhaps there is no off world, and it's all just a government conspiracy to
> control the population? (read The Wanting Seed by Anthony Burgess to give you
> all sorts of ideas of the lengths the gov't will go to to control population.)
>

Or PKD's The Unteleported Man (Lies Inc.), which touches on a similar idea, but for a
different theme.

Mr. Pink

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Netrunner wrote:

> Okay, who was that? I distinctly heard someone say "SciFi Nerd".
> Right nobody is leaving until someone owns up!

Must have been another "SciFi Nerd" - if they knew enough to call you a "SciFi
Nerd", they must be one too.

I have no idea what either one of you are talking about.

:-)

Ubik

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"Mr. Pink" <MrP...@KBilly.soundsofthe70s> wrote in message news:<3D84C1BD...@KBilly.soundsofthe70s>...

> Lukas Mariman wrote:
>
> > "Womb Raider" <wombr...@phonyaddress.com> schreef in bericht
> > news:150920020304439332%wombr...@phonyaddress.com...
> > > Given a choice what film-world would any of you want to live in?
> > >
> > > I'm kind of torn between BR and SW. But Star Wars ONLY if I had my own
> > > Empiral Destroyer to take out on weekends, otherwise it's BR all the
> > > way.
> >
> > At least in BR you don't risk being blown to bits by a giant space station.
>
> If you lived in BR world, wouldn't you want to make sure you lived off world?

So assuming Deckard was human, I wander why didn't he emigrate ? He
wasn't a cop anymore; what reason could he had to remain on earth ?

>
> What we see in BR looks like a very interesting place to visit, but I really
> don't think I'd want to live there.

Ubik

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> "Mr. Pink" <MrP...@KBilly.soundsofthe70s> wrote in message
> >
> > Perhaps there is no off world, and it's all just a government conspiracy to
> > control the population? (read The Wanting Seed by Anthony Burgess to give you
> > all sorts of ideas of the lengths the gov't will go to to control population.)
> >
>
> Or PKD's The Unteleported Man (Lies Inc.), which touches on a similar idea, but for a
> different theme.

Damn it Patrick, you're always ahead of me :) TUM's a wonderful book,
I've read it some months ago. For those who haven't read it yet: about
half of the book deals with Rachmael ben Applebaum's (the main
character's) world after being shot with a LSD dart. Wonderful.

StainlessSteelRat

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Ubik wrote:
> So assuming Deckard was human, I wander why didn't he emigrate ? He
> wasn't a cop anymore; what reason could he had to remain on earth ?

Good question. I'm just in the beginning of DaDoES, and it seems this is because he still has the
job. Plus I also feel he's reluctant to go Off-World, just that kinda person. I certainly get the
latter feeling with the film also.

--
StainlessSteelRat
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Ted: Dudes, even though you're doing this, we... we... we love you! We love you!
Evil Bill, Evil Ted: Fags!


StainlessSteelRat

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M L Rush wrote:
> I believe you have more in common with Aeryn Sun (another Farscape
> character).

Sheesh, Aeryn Sun is unique!

--
StainlessSteelRat
"Are you by any chance trying to trace my whereabouts, you naughty girl?"
-- Hannibal Lecter


Netrunner

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>Incidently, I hear Farscape has been canned (Virginia Hey *keeps* emailing
>me... [sigh]) which is a shame, IMO.

Sort of canned. Faint hope glimmers in the dark, but I have seen the
same thing with countless other great shows now and there is seldom
any good news to follow. Chances are there won't be a fifth season,
but there is a faint possibility, so don't give up altogether. Maybe
on another channel - these things do happen. The vagaries of the US
television system.

Netrunner

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>> > Like
>> > the idea of living in medieval times or something - all very well if
>> > you're a noble, but not much fun for the 99.9% of people who are
>> > downtrodden peasants...
>
>Disease and pestilence don't discriminate.
>
>Give me penicillin or give me death! Literally.

Unless you are allergic to penicillin ...

czf

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Or sulfa.

czf (allergic to both)


czf

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"M L Rush" <m...@encom.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, czf wrote
>
> >Your cloaking device has been confiscated.
>
> Where do I pick it up from later?

Ten forward. (tee hee - s/he came back! yippee!)

> >So, if I have this all correct, ST:TNG pleasure planet is Risa, and the
> >Farscape character is Rygel.
>
> Correct.

Okay, got that one straight.

> >That means I'd choose *Risa* as my preferred film world (yeah, I know,
it's
> >actually a television program, but give me a little wiggle room on this
> >one).
>
> They made it (the same universe) into films, so I'm sure it counts.

I'm glad to see that you can appreciate my perspective.

> >I've never seen Farscape (just shoot me now).
>
> I liked it more in the first two years.

I don't have much television viewing time on my hands, so I restricted
myself to The X-Files and Dark Angel. Both are now cancelled, so I'm just
doing CSI (Crime Scene Investigation). Somewhat the same, somewhat
different.

> >Since you are so well versed
> >on the subject, would I get along with Rygel?
>
> Rygel is small, irritating, avaricious and opinionated, with an
> antisocial habit or two. (The hero character calls him 'Sparky', which
> annoys him greatly.) You might get along with him for a while, but as
> soon as your back is turned he would try to steal your BR DVD. ;)

Hmmm, good for a party, but don't count on him in an emergency. The DVD is
no sweat, I don't have a DVD player. I'm waiting for the BR:SE to come out.
I'll probably have grandchildren by then.

> >If you've been lurking long,
> >you'd know me by now ;-)
>
> I believe you have more in common with Aeryn Sun (another Farscape
> character).

So you have been lurking long .... Oh, please do elaborate about Aeryn !!!

czf (crossing fingers)


czf

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"StainlessSteelRat" <stainsteelratmy...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> M L Rush wrote:
> > I believe you have more in common with Aeryn Sun (another Farscape
> > character).
>
> Sheesh, Aeryn Sun is unique!

So now you both have me intrigued. Do tell!

czf


StainlessSteelRat

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Well, she's lovely! What more can I say?

--
StainlessSteelRat
"Son, a woman is like a beer. They smell good, they look good, you'd step over your own mother
just to get one! But you can't stop at one. You wanna drink another woman!" -- Homer
Simpson


StainlessSteelRat

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StainlessSteelRat wrote:
> czf wrote:
>> "StainlessSteelRat" <stainsteelratmy...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> message news:3d86e146$0$1387$4d4e...@news.ch.uu.net...
>>> M L Rush wrote:
>>>> I believe you have more in common with Aeryn Sun (another Farscape
>>>> character).
>>>
>>> Sheesh, Aeryn Sun is unique!
>>
>> So now you both have me intrigued. Do tell!
>
> Well, she's lovely! What more can I say?

I guess she would be quite likely to play Counterstrike also! What a gal.

--
StainlessSteelRat
John Connor: Jesus, you were gonna kill that guy.
The Terminator: Of course, I'm a terminator.


Lukas Mariman

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"czf" <rac...@deckards.piano> schreef in bericht
news:0YGh9.448544$me6.54180@sccrnsc01...

> > I guess she would be quite likely to play Counterstrike also! What a
gal.
>
> You are *just* going to love this. You and Evil, both. My daughter won a
> little contest at school and her prize was a ---
>
> COMPUTER GAME !!!!
>
> czf (lays down, belly exposed, gives up)

It's a conspiracy! Yes, it's true. We have agents *everywhere*.


StainlessSteelRat

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czf wrote:
>> Yep, that's it! Get 'em young :o)
>
> Technically speaking, she's probably starting very late at 11. Goosebumps:
> Escape from Horrorland from Dreamsworks Interactive. She and my 8 year old
> son are thrilled. All yesterday afternoon (during a horrendous downpour) I
> got to listen to the audio while doing things around the house. Howling,
> screaming, monster breathing, creaking stairs, chains, cell doors slamming
> shut. Got me into the Halloween spirit.

Well my ex's daughter used to love computer games :o) I forgot this. I used to play games from
time-to-time and she was always fascinated and wanted to join in.

StainlessSteelRat

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LOL!!!

--
StainlessSteelRat
"Kill my boss? Do I dare live out the American dream?"
-- Homer Simpson


czf

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"StainlessSteelRat" <stainsteelratmy...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> StainlessSteelRat wrote:
> > czf wrote:
> >> "StainlessSteelRat" <stainsteelratmy...@hotmail.com> wrote
in
> >> message news:3d86e146$0$1387$4d4e...@news.ch.uu.net...
> >>> M L Rush wrote:
> >>>> I believe you have more in common with Aeryn Sun (another Farscape
> >>>> character).
> >>>
> >>> Sheesh, Aeryn Sun is unique!
> >>
> >> So now you both have me intrigued. Do tell!
> >
> > Well, she's lovely! What more can I say?

I think I'll wait for ML Rush's reply. Something tells me I'll get a more
elaborate description than that.

> I guess she would be quite likely to play Counterstrike also! What a gal.

You are *just* going to love this. You and Evil, both. My daughter won a

StainlessSteelRat

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Sep 17, 2002, 10:37:48 AM9/17/02
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czf wrote:
>>> Well, she's lovely! What more can I say?
>
> I think I'll wait for ML Rush's reply. Something tells me I'll get a more
> elaborate description than that.

What more do you need?! Sheesh.

She's an ex-Peacekeeper (a war like organisation from a human looking race that keep a large amount
of the galaxy in peace - similar to the Empire in Star Wars).

She's a great strong female role model, and she's rather nice looking to boot. Well, I always love
blackettes (I use this to distinguish women with black hair :o)

>> I guess she would be quite likely to play Counterstrike also! What a gal.
>
> You are *just* going to love this. You and Evil, both. My daughter won a
> little contest at school and her prize was a ---
>
> COMPUTER GAME !!!!

Yep, that's it! Get 'em young :o)

--
StainlessSteelRat
"Gosh, you've... really got some nice toys here."
-- Roy Batty


czf

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"StainlessSteelRat" <stainsteelratmy...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> czf wrote:
> >>> Well, she's lovely! What more can I say?
> >
> > I think I'll wait for ML Rush's reply. Something tells me I'll get a
more
> > elaborate description than that.
>
> What more do you need?! Sheesh.
>
> She's an ex-Peacekeeper (a war like organisation from a human looking race
that keep a large amount
> of the galaxy in peace - similar to the Empire in Star Wars).
>
> She's a great strong female role model, and she's rather nice looking to
boot. Well, I always love
> blackettes (I use this to distinguish women with black hair :o)

Well, to ML - thanks for the compliment ! And to you, thanks for a more
elaborate description.

> >> I guess she would be quite likely to play Counterstrike also! What a
gal.

Sounds like she would.

> >
> > You are *just* going to love this. You and Evil, both. My daughter won
a
> > little contest at school and her prize was a ---
> >
> > COMPUTER GAME !!!!
>
> Yep, that's it! Get 'em young :o)

Technically speaking, she's probably starting very late at 11. Goosebumps:


Escape from Horrorland from Dreamsworks Interactive. She and my 8 year old
son are thrilled. All yesterday afternoon (during a horrendous downpour) I
got to listen to the audio while doing things around the house. Howling,
screaming, monster breathing, creaking stairs, chains, cell doors slamming
shut. Got me into the Halloween spirit.

czf


czf

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Yes, I thought the timing was just a little too convenient ....

czf


Netrunner

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>> > I believe you have more in common with Aeryn Sun (another Farscape
>> > character).
>>
>> Sheesh, Aeryn Sun is unique!
>
>So now you both have me intrigued. Do tell!

Risking being boring, I'll give you a little more description. As has
been mentioned, she is an ex-Peacekeeper and has black hair. She is
attractive, but not in the "pretty, pretty" sort of way. As an ex
elite Peacekeeper, it shouldn't surprise that she kicks major league
ass of anyone that gets in her way, (and is thus the number one
fighter on the ship. Think modern Emma Peel without the
light-heartedness. Yes, she does dress in black leather.

There is also some angst as she is trying to get away from her
previous involvement with often rather nasty Peacekeepers, but at the
same time recognises that she is what she is because of their
training, etc. And of course there is intrigue in not just her past,
but that of her parents....

Claudia Black who plays her also stars in the film "Pitch Black" as
another space faring, good looking, strong character.

Netrunner

Evil Sponge

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"czf" <rac...@deckards.piano> wrote in message
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Arg! I'm allergic to american spellings...


czf

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Wow. ML is an attentive lurker .... s/he's got me pegged.

(no, I will not get skittish this time)

czf (exposed to the world)


Mellorman

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"StainlessSteelRat" <stainsteelratmy...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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>
> Well, she's lovely! What more can I say?
>

I saw her first... getchya filthy paws off...


Evil Sponge

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"czf" <rac...@deckards.piano> wrote in message
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Muhahahahaha! Maybe next time she'll get lucky and win Half-life.....


Ahmed Mahi Durgun

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Go away from earth with light speed. and come back exactly in 2019. (you'll
have to do it instantly though)


Patrick Meaney

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"czf" <rac...@deckards.piano> wrote in message
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> > >Disease and pestilence don't discriminate.
> > >
> > >Give me penicillin or give me death! Literally.
> >
> > Unless you are allergic to penicillin ...
>
> Or sulfa.
>
> czf (allergic to both)
>

Me too. Strange coincidence.
--
Patrick

"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream."-George W. Bush

czf

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"Ahmed Mahi Durgun" <ahmedmah...@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
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> Go away from earth with light speed. and come back exactly in 2019.
(you'll
> have to do it instantly though)

I think it would be easier to travel on quantum foam. The transcription
errors can be a bitch, though.

czf


Patrick Meaney

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"Ubik" <janek...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> Damn it Patrick, you're always ahead of me :) TUM's a wonderful book,
> I've read it some months ago. For those who haven't read it yet: about
> half of the book deals with Rachmael ben Applebaum's (the main
> character's) world after being shot with a LSD dart. Wonderful.

I've got agents everywhere :-) As for the book, I liked it a lot also, particularly
the issues it raised about offworld living, and control of colonies. It's a shame that
there are a couple of pages missing that are most likely never to be recovered.

czf

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"Patrick Meaney" <patrick...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "czf" <rac...@deckards.piano> wrote in message
> news:kDDh9.303981$kp.10...@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
> > > >Disease and pestilence don't discriminate.
> > > >
> > > >Give me penicillin or give me death! Literally.
> > >
> > > Unless you are allergic to penicillin ...
> >
> > Or sulfa.
> >
> > czf (allergic to both)
> >
>
> Me too. Strange coincidence.
> --
> Patrick

C'mon Patrick. I can't be your mother *and* your mother-in-law ...

You are still going to marry my daughter, right? Right?!?!

czf


Lukas Mariman

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"Evil Sponge" <evil....@ntlworld.com> schreef in bericht
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I tired getting into Half-Life right after having played Deus Ex. Maybe I
missed something vital, but after Deus Ex, Half-Life was a disappointment. I
just couldn't get into it.


Evil Sponge

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"Lukas Mariman" <lukas....@skynet.be> wrote in message
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> >
> > Muhahahahaha! Maybe next time she'll get lucky and win Half-life.....
>
> I tired getting into Half-Life right after having played Deus Ex. Maybe I
> missed something vital, but after Deus Ex, Half-Life was a disappointment.
I
> just couldn't get into it.
>
>

I would agree that HL isn't as good as DE, but then it's a different kinda
game. For a straight FPS, HL kicks ass.... the AI is amazing.


Patrick Meaney

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"czf" <rac...@deckards.piano> wrote in message news:HKMh9.308578> > >

>
> C'mon Patrick. I can't be your mother *and* your mother-in-law ...
>
> You are still going to marry my daughter, right? Right?!?!
>

I'm go, but don't get too excited about giving any penicillin to the future
generations.

Patrick Meaney

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Sep 17, 2002, 5:28:23 PM9/17/02
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"Lukas Mariman" <lukas....@skynet.be> wrote in message news:3d879d2e$0$197
> I was about to get into the spirit of things (talking about Half-Life) until
> I encountered what seemsed suspiciously like a jumping puzzle.
>
> I hate jumping puzzles.
>
> I really do.
>

They've got their place. The new Mario game has some levels that are insane with the
jumping. It's the toughest jumping I've seen since the days of the NES, and those
levels walk the fine line between great and horribly annoying that all the best
videogames do.

I do agree with you that jumping has no place in a FPS.

Lukas Mariman

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"Evil Sponge" <evil....@ntlworld.com> schreef in bericht
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I was about to get into the spirit of things (talking about Half-Life) until

Lukas Mariman

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"Patrick Meaney" <patrick...@verizon.net> schreef in bericht
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> "Lukas Mariman" <lukas....@skynet.be> wrote in message
news:3d879d2e$0$197
> > I was about to get into the spirit of things (talking about Half-Life)
until
> > I encountered what seemsed suspiciously like a jumping puzzle.
> >
> > I hate jumping puzzles.
> >
> > I really do.
> >
>
> They've got their place. The new Mario game has some levels that are
insane with the
> jumping. It's the toughest jumping I've seen since the days of the NES,
and those
> levels walk the fine line between great and horribly annoying that all the
best
> videogames do.
>
> I do agree with you that jumping has no place in a FPS.

Absolutely. Deus Ex had a few situations that looked remotely like jumping
puzzles, but they weren't very hard, and at least there were always
alternatives there...


Evil Sponge

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"Lukas Mariman" <lukas....@skynet.be> wrote in message
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Haha...... yeah.... the bit with the girders hanging from the ceiling near
the start? That was kinda crap.... the game gets really good after that
though.... and there's not a great deal of jumping. Once you start coming up
against humans instead of aliens, the fighting has to be seen to be
believed.... the grunts throw grenades, work as a team, take cover....
fantastic stuff. It does go downhill once you get into the alien world
though... a bit like Darkseed : )


Lukas Mariman

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Sep 17, 2002, 5:31:05 PM9/17/02
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"Evil Sponge" <evil....@ntlworld.com> schreef in bericht
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> > > I would agree that HL isn't as good as DE, but then it's a different
> kinda
> > > game. For a straight FPS, HL kicks ass.... the AI is amazing.
> >
> > I was about to get into the spirit of things (talking about Half-Life)
> until
> > I encountered what seemsed suspiciously like a jumping puzzle.
> >
> > I hate jumping puzzles.
> >
> > I really do.
> >
> >
>
> Haha...... yeah.... the bit with the girders hanging from the ceiling near
> the start? That was kinda crap.... the game gets really good after that
> though.... and there's not a great deal of jumping. Once you start coming
up
> against humans instead of aliens, the fighting has to be seen to be
> believed.... the grunts throw grenades, work as a team, take cover....
> fantastic stuff. It does go downhill once you get into the alien world
> though... a bit like Darkseed : )

I see. Maybe I should give it another try...


Evil Sponge

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"The log" <row...@aol.comPLICATE> wrote in message
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> I'm currently playing a game called The Sentinel Returns... it's a remake
of an
> eighties BBC/Commodore game and it's so strange, I can't describe it with
> words.
>
> It has 650 levels, which is fair enough considering the original had
10,000.
>

I had the original on the Amstrad CPC.... that is one forked up game.....
was kinda scary in a surreal way.


The log

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Sep 17, 2002, 5:51:32 PM9/17/02
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I'm currently playing a game called The Sentinel Returns... it's a remake of an
eighties BBC/Commodore game and it's so strange, I can't describe it with
words.

It has 650 levels, which is fair enough considering the original had 10,000.


Peace,
The log

"If you plot the number of animals abused against what makes people cruel
versus intelligence of either party, the pattern is so unreadable you might as
well draw a chain of foxes heads on sticks"

http://www.xanga.com/home.asp?user=rowandt

czf

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Sep 17, 2002, 6:36:34 PM9/17/02
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"Patrick Meaney" <patrick...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "czf" <rac...@deckards.piano> wrote in message news:HKMh9.308578> > >
> >
> > C'mon Patrick. I can't be your mother *and* your mother-in-law ...
> >
> > You are still going to marry my daughter, right? Right?!?!
> >
>
> I'm go, but don't get too excited about giving any penicillin to the
future
> generations.

or sulfa.

So, will you two be living in New York and summering by the shore with us?

There are commuter ferries.

czf


czf

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Sep 17, 2002, 8:35:40 PM9/17/02
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"Patrick Meaney" <patrick...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "czf" <rac...@deckards.piano> wrote in message
> news:S7Oh9.451316$me6.54326@sccrnsc01...

> >
> > So, will you two be living in New York and summering by the shore with
us?
> >
> > There are commuter ferries.
> >
>
> Sounds good. New York in winter can be a hassle, but overall, it's a great
place to
> live.

She can't decide if she wants to be a meteorologist or a marine biologist
right now, but she could do either in New York.

> And summers by the beach is the ultimate. People talk about the forest, or
the
> jungle as the best examples of nature's majesty, but to me, there's
nothing like a
> mass of water in terms of both impact, and entertainment. Riding the waves
beats any
> roller coaster, and summers on the shore sound excellent. Without the
beach, I
> couldn't officially call it summer.

We are blessed that our place is on the open ocean. Most folks from New
York and Connecticut come north just to escape Long Island Sound.

> Just out of curiosity, where is your beach house?

Narragansett, RI. See where it is on the map? Soooo close. Open ocean.
Clean surfing waves.

czf (reeling him in further)


Patrick Meaney

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Sep 17, 2002, 8:55:34 PM9/17/02
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"czf" <rac...@deckards.piano> wrote in message news:wTPh9.9826$L12.2666@sccrnsc02...

>
> We are blessed that our place is on the open ocean. Most folks from New
> York and Connecticut come north just to escape Long Island Sound.
>

Long Island Sound is a couple of minutes from my house, and defnitely can't compare to
the ocean. It's okay, but it does need escaping from.

> > Just out of curiosity, where is your beach house?
>
> Narragansett, RI. See where it is on the map? Soooo close. Open ocean.
> Clean surfing waves.
>
> czf (reeling him in further)
>

--
Patrick


Ubik

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Sep 18, 2002, 3:51:33 AM9/18/02
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"Patrick Meaney" <patrick...@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<CiMh9.742$DM5...@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...

> "Ubik" <janek...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > Damn it Patrick, you're always ahead of me :) TUM's a wonderful book,
> > I've read it some months ago. For those who haven't read it yet: about
> > half of the book deals with Rachmael ben Applebaum's (the main
> > character's) world after being shot with a LSD dart. Wonderful.
>
> I've got agents everywhere :-) As for the book, I liked it a lot also, particularly
> the issues it raised about offworld living, and control of colonies. It's a shame that
> there are a couple of pages missing that are most likely never to be recovered.

I've seen things you Patrick wouldn't believe... Here:
http://www.philipkdick.com/pkdweb/TUMpages.htm

They've found the pageeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessss !!! :)

StainlessSteelRat

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Sep 18, 2002, 9:22:33 AM9/18/02
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Lukas Mariman wrote:
>>>>>> I guess she would be quite likely to play Counterstrike also! What
> a
>>>> gal.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are *just* going to love this. You and Evil, both. My daughter won a
>>> a
>>>>> little contest at school and her prize was a ---
>>>>>
>>>>> COMPUTER GAME !!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> czf (lays down, belly exposed, gives up)
>>>>
>>>> It's a conspiracy! Yes, it's true. We have agents *everywhere*.
>>>
>>> Yes, I thought the timing was just a little too convenient ....
>>>
>>> czf
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Muhahahahaha! Maybe next time she'll get lucky and win Half-life.....
>
> I tired getting into Half-Life right after having played Deus Ex. Maybe I
> missed something vital, but after Deus Ex, Half-Life was a disappointment. I
> just couldn't get into it.

I think Deus Ex beats Half Life, although the Half Life engine spawned some superb multiplayer games
e.g. Team Fortress and Counterstrike.

Strange thing is though I finished Half Life, but not Deus Ex. Must dig the CD out.

--
StainlessSteelRat
Dr. Zoidberg: How do I look?
Bender Unit 22: Like whale barf.
Dr. Zoidberg: Then the illusion is complete!


StainlessSteelRat

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Sep 18, 2002, 9:23:04 AM9/18/02
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The log wrote:
> I'm currently playing a game called The Sentinel Returns... it's a remake of an
> eighties BBC/Commodore game and it's so strange, I can't describe it with
> words.
>
> It has 650 levels, which is fair enough considering the original had 10,000.

Superb puzzle game :o)

--
StainlessSteelRat
"It's like something out of that twilighty show about that zone."
-- Homer Simpson


StainlessSteelRat

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Sep 18, 2002, 9:23:51 AM9/18/02
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It's all lies, lies! She's mine I tell ya!!

StainlessSteelRat

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Sep 18, 2002, 9:24:42 AM9/18/02
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Netrunner wrote:
> She is
> attractive, but not in the "pretty, pretty" sort of way.

She's attractive in an individual way, which for me kicks butt on all the derivative super models.

czf

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"StainlessSteelRat" <stainsteelratmy...@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> Netrunner wrote:
> > She is
> > attractive, but not in the "pretty, pretty" sort of way.
>
> She's attractive in an individual way, which for me kicks butt on all the
derivative super models.

Give both these men a prize.

czf


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