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John Doe

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Feb 26, 2001, 7:54:26 PM2/26/01
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Lukas' FAQ raised the question of who's playing the role of the
snake dealer 'Abdul-Ben Hassan'.

Well, I don't know really, but I'd guess it's Ridley Scott in
a kind of Hitchcock-y appearance...

Martin Gilbert

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Feb 26, 2001, 8:06:33 PM2/26/01
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In article <97etpi$u26$05$1...@news.t-online.com>, John Doe
<john...@hollywood.com> writes
Afraid I don't know either. A friend of mine told me that Adbul-Ben
Hassan has a tattoo of the millennium falcon on his face in the movie.
I've never been able to see it though (must try looking again now I've
got the DVD).

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Amedeo Felix

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Feb 26, 2001, 10:19:36 PM2/26/01
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> From: "John Doe" <john...@hollywood.com>
> Organization: T-Online
> Newsgroups: alt.fan.blade-runner
> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:54:26 +0100
> Subject: Abdul-Ben Hassan
Except for the fact that it looks nothing like him. :-)
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Amedeo Felix

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Feb 26, 2001, 10:20:43 PM2/26/01
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> From: Martin Gilbert <cer...@bigfoot.com>
> Organization: Marti@n at home....
> Newsgroups: alt.fan.blade-runner
> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 02:06:33 +0100
> Subject: Re: Abdul-Ben Hassan

>
> In article <97etpi$u26$05$1...@news.t-online.com>, John Doe
> <john...@hollywood.com> writes
>> Lukas' FAQ raised the question of who's playing the role of the
>> snake dealer 'Abdul-Ben Hassan'.
>>
>> Well, I don't know really, but I'd guess it's Ridley Scott in
>> a kind of Hitchcock-y appearance...
>>
> Afraid I don't know either. A friend of mine told me that Adbul-Ben
> Hassan has a tattoo of the millennium falcon on his face in the movie.
> I've never been able to see it though (must try looking again now I've
> got the DVD).

I think your friend ate the wrong kind of mushroom! :-)

Netrunner

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Feb 28, 2001, 9:45:32 AM2/28/01
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>Is the original dialogue for this scene to be found in Future Noir? And does it
>exist in audio, or is the dubbed version as seen in BR the only one available?

Extract from FN:
-------------
When Deckard converses with the fez-hatted Abdul Ben-Hassan, replicant
snake-maker, the dialogue between these two men does not match the
movement of their lips. However, in the BR workprint it does. Terry
Rawlings explains, "The reason that changed between the workprint and
release print was because certain producers felt the original dialogue
exchange [found in chapter XVI] was confusing. The higher-ups wanted
to clarify things and give the audience more of an explanation about
what Deckard was after and what this snake scale meant. So new words
were looped in during postproduction. That didn't really work,
though, did it?"
-------------

And from Chapter XVI:
-------------
The dialogue between Abdul Ben-Hassan (the snake dealer) and Deckard
is different in the WP. It also matches the pair's lip movements
better than any other versions.
The WP dialogue in this scene was:
- Deckard: Abdul Hassan? I'm a police officer, Abdul. I've got a
couple of questions I wanted to ask you.
- Abdul: (speaks in his native tongue, waves his arms)
- Deckard: You made a snake, XB7 1. I want to know who you sold it
to.
- Abdul: My work? Not too many could afford such quality.
- Deckard: How few?
- Abdul: Very few.
- Deckard: How FEW?
- Abdul: Perhaps less than I thought but still more than I can
remember.
Deckard: (grabbing Abdul's collar) Abdul, my friend ... (Animoid Row
noise drowns Deckard out) ... about two seconds I'm gonna ... (noise
drowns Deckard out again).
- Abdul: Snake pit!

Abdul never mentions Taffey Lewis' name in the Workprint. Also,
Deckard holds onto Abdul's collar longer in the WP.
-------------
This is immediately followed in the WP by exterior shots of the Snake
Pit, plus a street cop directing Deckard to it.

My personal preference is for this version (although I haven't
actually seen it on film). To me, new viewers of the film are
unlikely to get confused about it at all. It conveys more of the
tougher Deckard and gives a better contrast when he tries and fails to
threaten Taffey Lewis who merely fobs him off with a drink. (Although
some of the earlier script dialogue that got cut out, where Taffey
goes into all the different licences he has makes this even clearer.)

And of course, there wouldn't be annoying lip flap. So, what are the
chances of this bit being recut in the Special Edition, to have the
original dialogue???

Netrunner.

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Lukas Mariman

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Feb 28, 2001, 5:24:56 PM2/28/01
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"Amedeo Felix" <ame...@quetzalcoatl.fsnet.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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> > From: Martin Gilbert <cer...@bigfoot.com>
> > Organization: Marti@n at home....
> > Newsgroups: alt.fan.blade-runner
> > Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 02:06:33 +0100
> > Subject: Re: Abdul-Ben Hassan
> >
> > In article <97etpi$u26$05$1...@news.t-online.com>, John Doe
> > <john...@hollywood.com> writes
> >> Lukas' FAQ raised the question of who's playing the role of the
> >> snake dealer 'Abdul-Ben Hassan'.
> >>
> >> Well, I don't know really, but I'd guess it's Ridley Scott in
> >> a kind of Hitchcock-y appearance...
> >>
> > Afraid I don't know either. A friend of mine told me that Adbul-Ben
> > Hassan has a tattoo of the millennium falcon on his face in the
movie.
> > I've never been able to see it though (must try looking again now
I've
> > got the DVD).
>
> I think your friend ate the wrong kind of mushroom! :-)

What kind of mushroom was it? I want to know - just for scientific
purposes, of course. ;-)


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