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Steve
alt.fan.billie-piper added for the googlegroup archive.
Doc Thingy wrote:
>
> Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:4e57ba09$0$2334$c3e8da3$76a7...@news.astraweb.com:
>
> > Doc Thingy wrote:
When I was a very young boy I used to call my dick "my thingy".
Quite an apt nym change, Doc Cock.
> blah, blah, blah, I will have a friend who lives in Walthamstow,
Another fucking lie.
You don't have any friends or you wouldn't spend so much time
trying to impress virtual strangers on the internet.
That trying to impress virtual strangers didn't go down too well on
alt.binaries.unoffical.global.chat did it?
Who was it you threatened to sue? Why was it?
You're the little man, you puffed up little twerp.
> I'll wait until Monday midnight.
Oh do fuck off. Twat.
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Doc Savage wrote this monumental lie.
This wasn't the first time you've written nasty about the Hebrew
faith, and last time you crossposted hoping to find some allies.
The only people hurt was my deaf-blind daughter who was hit in the
mouth with a bottle of water and the father of the boy who hurt
her. His brief told the magistrate he'd done it because he had
seen accusations about me in a newsgroup. My daughter lost her
front teeth and needed stitches in her lips. She had nightmares
for months and she still covers her mouth with her hand when she
meets new people to hide the scars and you call me vindictive?!.
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For the record.
Doc Savage is a pseudonym. His real name and location are unknown.
alt.binaries.chatter is a binary group and not archived by google.
The vast majority of the population have no idea what usenet or
newsgroups are. Even if they did know the chances of someone
recognising him from what is written in abc are nil. The chances
of someone assaulting his daughter because what is written in a
binary group are even lower.
Doc Savage/Thingy has never mentioned this incident or made this
allegation until now. Guess why?
That's right, it is because he is lying.
Doc Thingy
@news.astraweb.com:
>
>
> For the record.
> Doc Savage is a pseudonym. His real name and location are unknown.
> alt.binaries.chatter is a binary group and not archived by google.
My fathers legal name was Adam Savage. We were well known in our area
west of Peterborough. Shortly before his death, he had been elected to
the village Council as planning officer for the village. Is my usernym
REALLY a pseudonym, am I simply using my fathers name - or that of a
pulp fiction and movie character?
> The vast majority of the population have no idea what usenet or
> newsgroups are. Even if they did know the chances of someone
> recognising him from what is written in abc are nil. The chances
> of someone assaulting his daughter because what is written in a
> binary group are even lower.
Have you conveniently 'forgotten' to mention your crossposts to
uk.local.peterborough which brought "Mr Justice" John Gartons to help
you? Course, he didn't last long. First he boasted about his boat, so
I posted pics of my Swift cabin cruiser which was berthed in the same
yard as his boat. Next, he boasted about his Fed 3 camera, so I posted
pics of my Nikon 501 AF, then he threatened me with his dog - a scabby
black alsation with spindly legs and with (quote) his friends on the
market (unquote). He was last seen being dragged onto a dual
carriageway into traffic when his dog tried to get away from my
ultrasonic dog scarer. Unfortunately Mister Gartons (also known as
"Snotrag" (Gartons spelled backwards) and well known uk.local.east-
anglia troll) was later hit by a car when he was pushing his bicycle
across the road near ASDA in the dark and was never heard of again. I
do know that in the interim, Gartons asked somebody on the market if
they knew who I was and he was told. The woman he asked was my fathers
cousin who sold curtains and sewing accessories on the same market where
Gartons sold Car Boot Bric-a-Brac. I have no reason to believe he did
not pass on that information to Steve before he left usenet.
> Doc Savage/Thingy has never mentioned this incident or made this
> allegation until now. Guess why?
> That's right, it is because he is lying.
>
This isn't the first time I mentioned my daughters assault or the damage
the boys father did to my new car. The boys father was fined and
ordered to pay costs and some restitution to my insurance company. He
failed to do so, and was jailed for 3 months. His son, the 9yr old boy
who hit my 5yr old deaf/blind daughter with the bottle of water admitted
that his father had told him to 'hurt her' and was put under a care and
supervision order. When the boys father was jailed, the boy was taken
into care and afaik, is still in care. All of that is documented in
court records with limited coverage in the local press - available on
microfishe in the newspaper office and the local City library.
Doc Thingy
@news.astraweb.com:
>
> That trying to impress virtual strangers didn't go down too well on
> alt.binaries.unoffical.global.chat did it?
> Who was it you threatened to sue? Why was it?
> You're the little man, you puffed up little twerp.
>
There, there, there little man. Calm down dear or you'll blow a gasket.
You should know who I 'threatened'. You were there.
I wasn't trying to impress anybody. I discovered their newsgroup was to be
dropped - just the same as alt.friends was to be dropped - and they didn't
want it to be saved because they're too stupid to understand. You screwed
up their charter and control message when you uploaded your crap control
message, just as you screwed up with the abc control message. That's why
abc won't propagate. Maybe one day I'll show you what you've done wrong
with all your newgroup control messages.
I actually did sue the Cambs education Authority for breach of contract and
won a years pay, tax free (there's no tax on court awards).
As I recall, you and that well known liar you were partnering at the time,
Mister Kent Bradley Wills, searched The Guardian and The Times sites for a
report on that case when I distinctly told you that it was only reported in
the LOCAL newspaper. You prolly lied about searching the newspapers to
make yourselves look good though.
I wonder what happened to Mister Wills? Oh yeah, I remember. I had words
with his probation service in Rogers, Arkansas and sent them a copy of a
post he made in alt friends where he claimed to carry a .32 cal revolver in
the glove box of his truck. Naughty naughty Mister Wills {{wags finger}} a
twice convicted felon can't have a handgun, even an imaginary one.
Why won't you post your address? You want NAY, you DEMAND that I post
mine, yet you're too much of a scaredy cat to post yours. You got a
conviction to hide or summat?
I've offered to show you around the farm, so why won't you come up to meet
me at the hotel, and let me take you there? You afraid that I really am
six-five, built like Garth and ready to rip your face off? I even offered
to get the local police sergeant or his PC to meet you so that I couldn't
give you a fat lip. Mind you, he may want to speak with you about your
racis comments, but that's just a trivial thing.
I'm two hours away from Walthamstow, and I can still ask the local copper
to meet you (you'd never find the farm without help - SatNav will take you
down towards Kings Cliffe and we're north of the A47). Meet us at the
Travelodge on the A47. You can't miss it. Just head for Leicester from
the A1 intersection and follow the yellow brick road, and it's right in the
middle of the 30mph section on the right. I'll even give you a couple of
harvest hampers of fruit, veggies and meat (turkey and lamb OK or are you
vegan?). Bring your own copper if you like. There's a police sergeant in
Walthamstow also named Steve Evans. I could contact him for you and see if
he'll be your bodyguard. My local bobby is ex-MET, so they can have a good
chat about old times whilst I take you around the farm. Bring proper shoes
or boots for walking. The land around here is hard on yer feet, but it's
easier to get around if you can ride horseback or a quad bike.
Come up tomorrow - Sunday, then you'll still have the bank holiday monday
to spend with Mrs Evans. I'll be driving my Landrover which is white over
blue, and I'm tall, well built, bearded and dress in black over a white
collarless shirt in typical Yid fashion. I'll be parked alongside the
Police Range Rover either with Sergeant Keith or PC Natalie.
You claimed my last offer to meet you was fog and bluster, but it's the
best and ONLY way you'll ever know that I'm not lying about anything, and
afterwards, you can tell everybody all about it and how sorry you are for
not accepting what I've told you. Tomorrow is your last opportunity. I
won't make this offer again, and if you don't turn up, we'll all know
why......
Steve
>
> Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote in news:4e582bb1$0$12436$c3e8da3$a8a65a91
> @news.astraweb.com:
>
> >
> >
> > For the record.
> > Doc Savage is a pseudonym. His real name and location are unknown.
> > alt.binaries.chatter is a binary group and not archived by google.
>
> My fathers legal name was Adam Savage. We were well known in our area
> west of Peterborough. Shortly before his death, he had been elected to
> the village Council as planning officer for the village. Is my usernym
> REALLY a pseudonym, am I simply using my fathers name - or that of a
> pulp fiction and movie character?
It is a pseudonym, not your real name. You are not traceable from
your usenet posts. I used to for many years post with my full name
on usenet - not once in real life has anyone mentioned my usenet
posts to me.
> > The vast majority of the population have no idea what usenet or
> > newsgroups are. Even if they did know the chances of someone
> > recognising him from what is written in abc are nil. The chances
> > of someone assaulting his daughter because what is written in a
> > binary group are even lower.
>
> Have you conveniently 'forgotten' to mention your crossposts to
> uk.local.peterborough which brought "Mr Justice" John Gartons to help
> you?
I remember crossposting to uk.local.peterborough. *Absolutely* no
one from there came to help me. John Gartons starting posting to
abc a long time after that period and I had *absolutely* no
dealings with him, in fact I prolly wasn't active on abc at the
time.
Course, he didn't last long. First he boasted about his boat, so
> I posted pics of my Swift cabin cruiser which was berthed in the same
> yard as his boat. Next, he boasted about his Fed 3 camera, so I posted
> pics of my Nikon 501 AF, then he threatened me with his dog - a scabby
> black alsation with spindly legs and with (quote) his friends on the
> market (unquote). He was last seen being dragged onto a dual
> carriageway into traffic when his dog tried to get away from my
> ultrasonic dog scarer. Unfortunately Mister Gartons (also known as
> "Snotrag" (Gartons spelled backwards) and well known uk.local.east-
> anglia troll) was later hit by a car when he was pushing his bicycle
> across the road near ASDA in the dark and was never heard of again. I
> do know that in the interim, Gartons asked somebody on the market if
> they knew who I was and he was told. The woman he asked was my fathers
> cousin who sold curtains and sewing accessories on the same market where
> Gartons sold Car Boot Bric-a-Brac.
<yawn>. Really, so fucking what?
Who cares?
> I have no reason to believe he did
> not pass on that information to Steve before he left usenet.
And I have no reason to believe that you don't regularly perform
anilingus on your goats. FTR, I have had no email contact
whatsoever with John Gartons, but I have with you, and I am so
tempted to publish the lot here. It's good stuff starting with you
trying to persuade me to see things from your point of view and
finishing with you threatening me.
> > Doc Savage/Thingy has never mentioned this incident or made this
> > allegation until now. Guess why?
> > That's right, it is because he is lying.
> >
>
> This isn't the first time I mentioned my daughters assault or the damage
> the boys father did to my new car.
Blimey, damage to your new car too. That's just awful.
You've got nice long retention on giganews, finding those posts
where you've mentioned this before will be no problem for you.
> The boys father was fined and
> ordered to pay costs and some restitution to my insurance company. He
> failed to do so, and was jailed for 3 months. His son, the 9yr old boy
> who hit my 5yr old deaf/blind daughter with the bottle of water admitted
> that his father had told him to 'hurt her' and was put under a care and
> supervision order. When the boys father was jailed, the boy was taken
> into care and afaik, is still in care. All of that is documented in
> court records with limited coverage in the local press - available on
> microfishe in the newspaper office and the local City library.
Too funny.
If any of this did happen, which I doubt, none of it had anything
at all to do with what was posted on usenet. You know it, I know
it, everybody knows it.
Steve
>
> Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote in news:4e582bb1$0$12436$c3e8da3$a8a65a91
> @news.astraweb.com:
>
> >
> > That trying to impress virtual strangers didn't go down too well on
> > alt.binaries.unoffical.global.chat did it?
> > Who was it you threatened to sue? Why was it?
> > You're the little man, you puffed up little twerp.
> >
>
> There, there, there little man. Calm down dear or you'll blow a gasket.
>
> You should know who I 'threatened'. You were there.
I wasn't paying attention. So who was it and why?
> I wasn't trying to impress anybody. I discovered their newsgroup was to be
> dropped - just the same as alt.friends was to be dropped - and they didn't
> want it to be saved because they're too stupid to understand.
Crikey! So why is it both those groups are still on every
newsserver I check?
You screwed
> up their charter and control message when you uploaded your crap control
> message, just as you screwed up with the abc control message. That's why
> abc won't propagate. Maybe one day I'll show you what you've done wrong
> with all your newgroup control messages.
That'd be nice, but before that explain to me why abc is on every
newsserver I've checked.
> I actually did sue the Cambs education Authority for breach of contract and
> won a years pay, tax free (there's no tax on court awards).
Irrelevant and going by your track record probably a lie.
> As I recall, you and that well known liar you were partnering at the time,
> Mister Kent Bradley Wills, searched The Guardian and The Times sites for a
> report on that case when I distinctly told you that it was only reported in
> the LOCAL newspaper. You prolly lied about searching the newspapers to
> make yourselves look good though.
You leave a track of breadcrumbs going in several directions
knowing that no one can follow the trail. If the story is true you
would have posted an url, or a newspaper scan. You didn't. You
never do.
> I wonder what happened to Mister Wills? Oh yeah, I remember. I had words
> with his probation service in Rogers, Arkansas and sent them a copy of a
> post he made in alt friends where he claimed to carry a .32 cal revolver in
> the glove box of his truck. Naughty naughty Mister Wills {{wags finger}} a
> twice convicted felon can't have a handgun, even an imaginary one.
What Wills has done is none of my business and I don't care. It's
none of your business either.
> Why won't you post your address? You want NAY, you DEMAND that I post
> mine, yet you're too much of a scaredy cat to post yours. You got a
> conviction to hide or summat?
Yeah, I'm a serial exRabbi barbecuer. I get my kicks stuffing a
pork sausage in both ends and basting them with pork fat.
> I've offered to show you around the farm, so why won't you come up to meet
> me at the hotel, and let me take you there? You afraid that I really am
> six-five, built like Garth and ready to rip your face off?
Why would I want to waste my time travelling up to your smelly
abode? Tell you what, I'll come up if you make it worth my while.
I even offered
> to get the local police sergeant or his PC to meet you so that I couldn't
> give you a fat lip.
Plod follows your orders? I'm very impressed.
Mind you, he may want to speak with you about your
> racis comments, but that's just a trivial thing.
Bwahahahaha!
> I'm two hours away from Walthamstow,
Lucky you!
> and I can still ask the local copper
> to meet you (you'd never find the farm without help - SatNav will take you
> down towards Kings Cliffe and we're north of the A47). Meet us at the
> Travelodge on the A47. You can't miss it. Just head for Leicester from
> the A1 intersection and follow the yellow brick road, and it's right in the
> middle of the 30mph section on the right. I'll even give you a couple of
> harvest hampers of fruit, veggies and meat (turkey and lamb OK or are you
> vegan?). Bring your own copper if you like. There's a police sergeant in
> Walthamstow also named Steve Evans. I could contact him for you and see if
> he'll be your bodyguard. My local bobby is ex-MET, so they can have a good
> chat about old times whilst I take you around the farm. Bring proper shoes
> or boots for walking. The land around here is hard on yer feet, but it's
> easier to get around if you can ride horseback or a quad bike.
<giggle>
Have you any idea how ridiculous you sound?
> Come up tomorrow - Sunday, then you'll still have the bank holiday monday
> to spend with Mrs Evans. I'll be driving my Landrover which is white over
> blue, and I'm tall, well built, bearded and dress in black over a white
> collarless shirt in typical Yid fashion. I'll be parked alongside the
> Police Range Rover either with Sergeant Keith or PC Natalie.
I'm not coming unless you get the commissioner. Do you think I'm
riff-raff or summit?
> You claimed my last offer to meet you was fog and bluster, but it's the
> best and ONLY way you'll ever know that I'm not lying about anything, and
> afterwards, you can tell everybody all about it and how sorry you are for
> not accepting what I've told you. Tomorrow is your last opportunity. I
> won't make this offer again, and if you don't turn up, we'll all know
> why......
Yeah, they'll know it's because I have better things to do than
humour a fantasist.
Doc Thingy
news:4e58fff3$0$30705$c3e8da3$12bc...@news.astraweb.com:
> Doc Thingy wrote:
>>
>> Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
>> news:4e582bb1$0$12436$c3e8da3$a8a65a91 @news.astraweb.com:
>>
>> >
>> > That trying to impress virtual strangers didn't go down too well on
>> > alt.binaries.unoffical.global.chat did it?
>> > Who was it you threatened to sue? Why was it?
>> > You're the little man, you puffed up little twerp.
>> >
>>
>> There, there, there little man. Calm down dear or you'll blow a
>> gasket.
>>
>> You should know who I 'threatened'. You were there.
>
> I wasn't paying attention. So who was it and why?
It was Sharon Bennet. You and she exchanged lots of comments in the
group at the time. Why is because she lied about what I'd said. Her
claim turned a simple accurate comment into an illegal comment and it
cost me a good job. Contracts were signed, then Cambs education dropped
me on the strength of some 'Tecchie' picking up her comment during
background checks on my usenet activities. I sued and the Court found
Cambs guilty of breach of contract, and the 'Tecchie' guilty of
supplying partial information claiming it to be complete. Just so you
know the full story, he knew the information was imcomplete and was
offered the job when I was dropped. The 'job' was teaching silver
surfers in afternoon and evening classes
>
>> I wasn't trying to impress anybody. I discovered their newsgroup was
>> to be dropped - just the same as alt.friends was to be dropped - and
>> they didn't want it to be saved because they're too stupid to
>> understand.
>
> Crikey! So why is it both those groups are still on every
> newsserver I check?
I posted a good newgroup control message for fickle.global chat and the
correctly spelled global chat - in case the dupe was dropped anyway.
BarB from alt.control posted one for alt.friends at the request of
somebody else after I told them to look into it. It's all on
alt.control including Sharon Bennets lies. I like the part where BarB
used exactly the same phrase I used to explain it to her. BTW, BarB is
a genuine Newsadmin working on the US Gulf coast somewhere around Lake
Arthur in East Louisiana.
>
> You screwed
>> up their charter and control message when you uploaded your crap
>> control message, just as you screwed up with the abc control message.
>> That's why abc won't propagate. Maybe one day I'll show you what
>> you've done wrong with all your newgroup control messages.
>
> That'd be nice, but before that explain to me why abc is on every
> newsserver I've checked.
It's on fewer than you imagine and besides, you only use premium
newsfeeds which carry just about everything, including the kp groups.
That's why the group rarely sees spam or new users. I still see
anomalies with some in house newsfeeds. Groups which I know are busy
show as being empty because they were dropped back in April '05, but
still show on the servers list. I get bouncebacks and 401 "No such
group" messages when I telnet to them looking for the article count.
Freeuk's clara news, NTL/Virgin and BT were great indicators, but now
they've gone over to Giganews, it's harder to spot and you need to look
thru admin control or set up a 'bot to ping each group in turn.
>
>> I actually did sue the Cambs education Authority for breach of
>> contract and won a years pay, tax free (there's no tax on court
>> awards).
>
> Irrelevant and going by your track record probably a lie.
I don't have a track record except in your hate addled mind.
>
>> As I recall, you and that well known liar you were partnering at the
>> time, Mister Kent Bradley Wills, searched The Guardian and The Times
>> sites for a report on that case when I distinctly told you that it
>> was only reported in the LOCAL newspaper. You prolly lied about
>> searching the newspapers to make yourselves look good though.
>
> You leave a track of breadcrumbs going in several directions
> knowing that no one can follow the trail. If the story is true you
> would have posted an url, or a newspaper scan. You didn't. You
> never do.
I did both, but you'll prolly lie again and claim I didn't or you just
didn't see it.
>
>> I wonder what happened to Mister Wills? Oh yeah, I remember. I had
>> words with his probation service in Rogers, Arkansas and sent them a
>> copy of a post he made in alt friends where he claimed to carry a .32
>> cal revolver in the glove box of his truck. Naughty naughty Mister
>> Wills {{wags finger}} a twice convicted felon can't have a handgun,
>> even an imaginary one.
>
> What Wills has done is none of my business and I don't care. It's
> none of your business either.
You and he made it my business and Wills lost. Live with it.
>
>> Why won't you post your address? You want NAY, you DEMAND that I
>> post mine, yet you're too much of a scaredy cat to post yours. You
>> got a conviction to hide or summat?
>
> Yeah, I'm a serial exRabbi barbecuer. I get my kicks stuffing a
> pork sausage in both ends and basting them with pork fat.
Are you sure it isn't a conviction for racial hatred?
>
>> I've offered to show you around the farm, so why won't you come up to
>> meet me at the hotel, and let me take you there? You afraid that I
>> really am six-five, built like Garth and ready to rip your face off?
>
> Why would I want to waste my time travelling up to your smelly
> abode? Tell you what, I'll come up if you make it worth my while.
Hey my farm isn't smelly. The stables may niff a bit when Polly poops
in there, but that never lasts.
Make it worth your while? Isn't proving me to be wrong incentive enough
or are you looking for a way out now your bluff has been called?
>
> I even offered
>> to get the local police sergeant or his PC to meet you so that I
>> couldn't give you a fat lip.
>
> Plod follows your orders? I'm very impressed.
No, neither of them would do that, but they would turn out to pick up a
crim or to prevent a possible breach of the peace. Besides, they're
both coppers, and everybody trusts coppers. They both know me and my
name. They've seen it on my shotgun and firearms certificates and on my
driving licence and insurance and they're also your insurance that I'll
send you home with all your bits intact, otherwise I might shove you in
the tree shredder and feed the gloop to my neighbours pigs along with
the rest of the slaughter offal. I can ask the local vicar to turn up
with me if you're scared of the cops.
>
> Mind you, he may want to speak with you about your
>> racis comments, but that's just a trivial thing.
>
> Bwahahahaha!
You can't deny you made the comments, and I've saved every one of them,
but I didn't go whining to the cops. That isn't to say that nobody else
did.
>
>> I'm two hours away from Walthamstow,
>
> Lucky you!
>
>> and I can still ask the local copper
>> to meet you (you'd never find the farm without help - SatNav will
>> take you down towards Kings Cliffe and we're north of the A47). Meet
>> us at the Travelodge on the A47. You can't miss it. Just head for
>> Leicester from the A1 intersection and follow the yellow brick road,
>> and it's right in the middle of the 30mph section on the right. I'll
>> even give you a couple of harvest hampers of fruit, veggies and meat
>> (turkey and lamb OK or are you vegan?). Bring your own copper if you
>> like. There's a police sergeant in Walthamstow also named Steve
>> Evans. I could contact him for you and see if he'll be your
>> bodyguard. My local bobby is ex-MET, so they can have a good chat
>> about old times whilst I take you around the farm. Bring proper
>> shoes or boots for walking. The land around here is hard on yer feet,
>> but it's easier to get around if you can ride horseback or a quad
>> bike.
>
> <giggle>
> Have you any idea how ridiculous you sound?
Only to you little man. There are very few signs pointing to farms from
A Class routes in this country and I'm not on the main route. This
ain't north London you know. We never got the village signposts back
after Churchill hid them from German parachutists. There's no channce
of getting a finger sign pointing to my farm - not that I want one.
>
>> Come up tomorrow - Sunday, then you'll still have the bank holiday
>> monday to spend with Mrs Evans. I'll be driving my Landrover which
>> is white over blue and I'm tall, well built, bearded and dress in
>> black over a white collarless shirt in typical Yid fashion. I'll be
>> parked alongside the Police Range Rover either with Sergeant Keith or
>> PC Natalie.
>
> I'm not coming unless you get the commissioner. Do you think I'm
> riff-raff or summit?
You're just scratching around for excuses not to turn up without looking
like a yellowbelly. Maybe you could get the Taliban supporters to have
another protest march through Wathamstow, then you'll have a good excuse
not to turn up and nobody will think you're a lying no good cowardly
skuzzbucket.
>
>> You claimed my last offer to meet you was fog and bluster, but it's
>> the best and ONLY way you'll ever know that I'm not lying about
>> anything, and afterwards, you can tell everybody all about it and how
>> sorry you are for not accepting what I've told you. Tomorrow is your
>> last opportunity. I won't make this offer again, and if you don't
>> turn up, we'll all know why......
>
> Yeah, they'll know it's because I have better things to do than
> humour a fantasist.
>
Another last grasp at straws more like.
I'll wait in the Travelodge car park from noon until 1.45 with a CB to
play with if it's raining. After then I'm gone. The Belgian GP is on
and I'll be watching it with a bowl of crackersnacks and some chunks of
cheese.
Be there or be square.
Doc Thingy
news:4e58ffca$0$30705$c3e8da3$12bc...@news.astraweb.com:
> Doc Thingy wrote:
>>
>> Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
>> news:4e582bb1$0$12436$c3e8da3$a8a65a91 @news.astraweb.com:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > For the record.
>> > Doc Savage is a pseudonym. His real name and location are unknown.
>> > alt.binaries.chatter is a binary group and not archived by google.
>>
>> My fathers legal name was Adam Savage. We were well known in our
>> area west of Peterborough. Shortly before his death, he had been
>> elected to the village Council as planning officer for the village.
>> Is my usernym REALLY a pseudonym, am I simply using my fathers name -
>> or that of a pulp fiction and movie character?
>
> It is a pseudonym, not your real name. You are not traceable from
> your usenet posts.
I've always said it wasn't my real name, but Savage was my fathers real
name (by deed poll). Aksherly, the name "Doc Savage" was given to me in
the small-tits group by one of the early members towards the end of
1999. I never saw any reason to change it.
> I used to for many years post with my full name
> on usenet - not once in real life has anyone mentioned my usenet
> posts to me.
We only have your word for that. It's more likely that it has happened
with people you've come to know, same as with me. Some people who were
posting in u.l.peterborough are or were real time acqaintences. I used
to buy baccy from one, and another was a club doorman who used to
frequent the same gym as me, so it's easily possible they talked about
me. I'm also Jewish and hated by some people because of my beliefs, my
mode of dress and because I'm successful, so I'm a natural target
anyway. I introduced usenet to most of the village when I opened the
cloud and hot spots. Village life is a bit like Emmerdale. People talk
and pretty soon, everybody knows your business and secrets.
>
>> > The vast majority of the population have no idea what usenet or
>> > newsgroups are. Even if they did know the chances of someone
>> > recognising him from what is written in abc are nil. The chances
>> > of someone assaulting his daughter because what is written in a
>> > binary group are even lower.
>>
>> Have you conveniently 'forgotten' to mention your crossposts to
>> uk.local.peterborough which brought "Mr Justice" John Gartons to help
>> you?
>
> I remember crossposting to uk.local.peterborough. *Absolutely* no
> one from there came to help me. John Gartons starting posting to
> abc a long time after that period and I had *absolutely* no
> dealings with him, in fact I prolly wasn't active on abc at the
> time.
What a pile of bile. You and he chatted in here and Roy and Pete both
joined in ridiculing him. You also crossposted a couple to alt.control
and brought "Ah" back with you. He tried to disprove something I'd said
about an MV control message, so I pointed him towards the relevant RFC
(1036b) and he went off in a sulk, suitably chided and was never seen
again.
>
>
> And I have no reason to believe that you don't regularly perform
> anilingus on your goats. FTR, I have had no email contact
> whatsoever with John Gartons, but I have with you, and I am so
> tempted to publish the lot here. It's good stuff starting with you
> trying to persuade me to see things from your point of view and
> finishing with you threatening me.
Run out of "facts" and started on your brand of filth again?
I didn't really mean to write "facts", I meant lies. You're the only
person here who is lying and inventing facts, and you're so blatant at
it. Never mind. I'll see you tomorrow, I hope.
>
>> > Doc Savage/Thingy has never mentioned this incident or made this
>> > allegation until now. Guess why?
>> > That's right, it is because he is lying.
>> >
>>
>> This isn't the first time I mentioned my daughters assault or the
>> damage the boys father did to my new car.
>
> Blimey, damage to your new car too. That's just awful.
> You've got nice long retention on giganews, finding those posts
> where you've mentioned this before will be no problem for you.
The group only goes back to 2008 as you well know. The mids are useless
now. Each time I parked outside the school when I picked my girls up he
did something to the car. He started out by keying my new Zafira with
swastikas and the words LYING JEW, then he tried to force a nail into
one of the door locks and broke off the offside mirror and screen wiper,
then he heeled some dents into the door and the next day, my brother and
his army buddies were there, watching for him. He didn't half sruggle
before the police got there to take him away. Good job the school has a
CCTV cam pointed towards the gate or we might have been done for
bruising him.
>
>> The boys father was fined and
>> ordered to pay costs and some restitution to my insurance company.
>> He failed to do so, and was jailed for 3 months. His son, the 9yr old
>> boy who hit my 5yr old deaf/blind daughter with the bottle of water
>> admitted that his father had told him to 'hurt her' and was put under
>> a care and supervision order. When the boys father was jailed, the
>> boy was taken into care and afaik, is still in care. All of that is
>> documented in court records with limited coverage in the local press
>> - available on microfishe in the newspaper office and the local City
>> library.
>
> Too funny.
> If any of this did happen, which I doubt, none of it had anything
> at all to do with what was posted on usenet. You know it, I know
> it, everybody knows it.
We only have your word for that. The court transcripts says differently
- or have you forgotten that courts have recorders and stenographers?
You can buy the transcripts and judgement for less than a tenner.
So why did you post to Peterborough when you could have posted to any of
hundreds of empty groups which were not geographically tied to me or my
my past? The only reason I can see is that you were looking for help,
otherwise you would have posted to alt bonehead pete.hucker with all
your other crap
Les
"Steve" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:4e58ffca$0$30705$c3e8da3$12bc...@news.astraweb.com...
I hope there's nothing slagging me off in those emails :)
Les
"Doc Thingy" <em...@wherever.con> wrote in message
news:Xns9F4EED3D82162...@216.196.109.131...
I did? It sounds the sort of thing I may playfully do but I can't remember
it. When I was at John's funeral there was something read out from
one or two people from this group, I can't remember who but one of
them may have been Gartons.
Les
"Doc Thingy" <em...@wherever.con> wrote in message
LOL An amusing run of events, Mr Gartons doesn't have much luck!
Doc Thingy
news:4e5a3d75$1$12450$8f2e...@news.shared-secrets.com:
>
> "Doc Thingy" <em...@wherever.con> wrote in message
> news:Xns9F4EED3D82162...@216.196.109.131...
>> Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
>> news:4e58ffca$0$30705$c3e8da3$12bc...@news.astraweb.com:
>>
>>>> Have you conveniently 'forgotten' to mention your crossposts to
>>>> uk.local.peterborough which brought "Mr Justice" John Gartons to
>>>> help you?
>>>
>>> I remember crossposting to uk.local.peterborough. *Absolutely* no
>>> one from there came to help me. John Gartons starting posting to
>>> abc a long time after that period and I had *absolutely* no
>>> dealings with him, in fact I prolly wasn't active on abc at the
>>> time.
>>
>> What a pile of bile. You and he chatted in here and Roy and Pete
>> both joined in ridiculing him.
>
> I did? It sounds the sort of thing I may playfully do but I can't
> remember it. When I was at John's funeral there was something read out
> from one or two people from this group, I can't remember who but one
> of them may have been Gartons.
>
>
Johns funeral was quite a while after Gartons passed away. Poor guy was
crossing Bourges Boulevard from the ASDA side towars Woollies with his
bike in the dark and was hit by a car. There's a proper crossing less
than 100 yards from where he was crossing.
Doc Thingy
news:4e5a3d75$0$12450$8f2e...@news.shared-secrets.com:
He never did. I had him TOSsed a couple of times when he was trolling
the u.l.east-anglia group
Steve
Sounds like yet another tall tale to me.
> >> I wasn't trying to impress anybody. I discovered their newsgroup was
> >> to be dropped - just the same as alt.friends was to be dropped - and
> >> they didn't want it to be saved because they're too stupid to
> >> understand.
> >
> > Crikey! So why is it both those groups are still on every
> > newsserver I check?
>
> I posted a good newgroup control message for fickle.global chat and the
> correctly spelled global chat - in case the dupe was dropped anyway.
> BarB from alt.control posted one for alt.friends at the request of
> somebody else after I told them to look into it. It's all on
> alt.control including Sharon Bennets lies. I like the part where BarB
> used exactly the same phrase I used to explain it to her. BTW, BarB is
> a genuine Newsadmin working on the US Gulf coast somewhere around Lake
> Arthur in East Louisiana.
More fanciful stuff.
> > You screwed
> >> up their charter and control message when you uploaded your crap
> >> control message, just as you screwed up with the abc control message.
> >> That's why abc won't propagate. Maybe one day I'll show you what
> >> you've done wrong with all your newgroup control messages.
> >
> > That'd be nice, but before that explain to me why abc is on every
> > newsserver I've checked.
>
> It's on fewer than you imagine and besides, you only use premium
> newsfeeds which carry just about everything, including the kp groups.
> That's why the group rarely sees spam or new users. I still see
> anomalies with some in house newsfeeds. Groups which I know are busy
> show as being empty because they were dropped back in April '05, but
> still show on the servers list. I get bouncebacks and 401 "No such
> group" messages when I telnet to them looking for the article count.
> Freeuk's clara news, NTL/Virgin and BT were great indicators, but now
> they've gone over to Giganews, it's harder to spot and you need to look
> thru admin control or set up a 'bot to ping each group in turn.
chatter, unoffical and friends are on every server I check and
that's what matters.
The truth of the matter is, bully boi, is that you tried chucking
your weight around and the regulars of 'unoffical' had none of it.
This upset you so you threatened a kook suit. You kook.
> >> I actually did sue the Cambs education Authority for breach of
> >> contract and won a years pay, tax free (there's no tax on court
> >> awards).
> >
> > Irrelevant and going by your track record probably a lie.
>
> I don't have a track record except in your hate addled mind.
You most certainly do. Telling tall tales and attempting to chuck
you weight about is your modus operandi.
> >> As I recall, you and that well known liar you were partnering at the
> >> time, Mister Kent Bradley Wills, searched The Guardian and The Times
> >> sites for a report on that case when I distinctly told you that it
> >> was only reported in the LOCAL newspaper. You prolly lied about
> >> searching the newspapers to make yourselves look good though.
> >
> > You leave a track of breadcrumbs going in several directions
> > knowing that no one can follow the trail. If the story is true you
> > would have posted an url, or a newspaper scan. You didn't. You
> > never do.
>
> I did both, but you'll prolly lie again and claim I didn't or you just
> didn't see it.
I didn't see it and if anyone else has I'd like to hear it. I
suspect it is another lie that you've repeated to yourself so often
that now you believe it.
> >> I wonder what happened to Mister Wills? Oh yeah, I remember. I had
> >> words with his probation service in Rogers, Arkansas and sent them a
> >> copy of a post he made in alt friends where he claimed to carry a .32
> >> cal revolver in the glove box of his truck. Naughty naughty Mister
> >> Wills {{wags finger}} a twice convicted felon can't have a handgun,
> >> even an imaginary one.
> >
> > What Wills has done is none of my business and I don't care. It's
> > none of your business either.
>
> You and he made it my business and Wills lost. Live with it.
Which part of "I don't care" don't you understand, you thick cunt.
> >> Why won't you post your address? You want NAY, you DEMAND that I
> >> post mine, yet you're too much of a scaredy cat to post yours. You
> >> got a conviction to hide or summat?
> >
> > Yeah, I'm a serial exRabbi barbecuer. I get my kicks stuffing a
> > pork sausage in both ends and basting them with pork fat.
>
> Are you sure it isn't a conviction for racial hatred?
I must confess to being a bit confused here - it's OK for you to
refer to muslims as ragheads and to diss christians, but if I say
something about jews it's racist. Have I got that right?
> >> I've offered to show you around the farm, so why won't you come up to
> >> meet me at the hotel, and let me take you there? You afraid that I
> >> really am six-five, built like Garth and ready to rip your face off?
> >
> > Why would I want to waste my time travelling up to your smelly
> > abode? Tell you what, I'll come up if you make it worth my while.
>
> Hey my farm isn't smelly. The stables may niff a bit when Polly poops
> in there, but that never lasts.
It smells coz you live there.
> Make it worth your while? Isn't proving me to be wrong incentive enough
No. My time is worth more to me.
> or are you looking for a way out now your bluff has been called?
The simplest solution all round would be for you to post proof, but
you would rather have me travel for hours instead. You know I'm
not going to do that and that is your way out.
> > I even offered
> >> to get the local police sergeant or his PC to meet you so that I
> >> couldn't give you a fat lip.
> >
> > Plod follows your orders? I'm very impressed.
>
> No, neither of them would do that, but they would turn out to pick up a
> crim or to prevent a possible breach of the peace.
In other words, it's bollocks.
Coppers have better things to do than chaperone you.
Besides, they're
> both coppers, and everybody trusts coppers.
I don't.
They both know me and my
> name. They've seen it on my shotgun and firearms certificates and on my
> driving licence and insurance and they're also your insurance that I'll
> send you home with all your bits intact, otherwise I might shove you in
> the tree shredder and feed the gloop to my neighbours pigs along with
> the rest of the slaughter offal. I can ask the local vicar to turn up
> with me if you're scared of the cops.
You are certifiable.
> > Mind you, he may want to speak with you about your
> >> racis comments, but that's just a trivial thing.
> >
> > Bwahahahaha!
>
> You can't deny you made the comments, and I've saved every one of them,
> but I didn't go whining to the cops. That isn't to say that nobody else
> did.
Good, now sue me.
> >> I'm two hours away from Walthamstow,
> >
> > Lucky you!
> >
> >> and I can still ask the local copper
> >> to meet you (you'd never find the farm without help - SatNav will
> >> take you down towards Kings Cliffe and we're north of the A47). Meet
> >> us at the Travelodge on the A47. You can't miss it. Just head for
> >> Leicester from the A1 intersection and follow the yellow brick road,
> >> and it's right in the middle of the 30mph section on the right. I'll
> >> even give you a couple of harvest hampers of fruit, veggies and meat
> >> (turkey and lamb OK or are you vegan?). Bring your own copper if you
> >> like. There's a police sergeant in Walthamstow also named Steve
> >> Evans. I could contact him for you and see if he'll be your
> >> bodyguard. My local bobby is ex-MET, so they can have a good chat
> >> about old times whilst I take you around the farm. Bring proper
> >> shoes or boots for walking. The land around here is hard on yer feet,
> >> but it's easier to get around if you can ride horseback or a quad
> >> bike.
> >
> > <giggle>
> > Have you any idea how ridiculous you sound?
>
> Only to you little man. There are very few signs pointing to farms from
> A Class routes in this country and I'm not on the main route. This
> ain't north London you know. We never got the village signposts back
> after Churchill hid them from German parachutists. There's no channce
> of getting a finger sign pointing to my farm - not that I want one.
Cuckoo.
> >> Come up tomorrow - Sunday, then you'll still have the bank holiday
> >> monday to spend with Mrs Evans. I'll be driving my Landrover which
> >> is white over blue and I'm tall, well built, bearded and dress in
> >> black over a white collarless shirt in typical Yid fashion. I'll be
> >> parked alongside the Police Range Rover either with Sergeant Keith or
> >> PC Natalie.
> >
> > I'm not coming unless you get the commissioner. Do you think I'm
> > riff-raff or summit?
>
> You're just scratching around for excuses not to turn up without looking
> like a yellowbelly.
I don't need an excuse to not waste my time.
If anyone is a chicken it's you, for not having the courage to post
proof.
Maybe you could get the Taliban supporters to have
> another protest march through Wathamstow, then you'll have a good excuse
> not to turn up and nobody will think you're a lying no good cowardly
> skuzzbucket.
What would a protest march have to do with me not wasting my time?
> >> You claimed my last offer to meet you was fog and bluster, but it's
> >> the best and ONLY way you'll ever know that I'm not lying about
> >> anything, and afterwards, you can tell everybody all about it and how
> >> sorry you are for not accepting what I've told you. Tomorrow is your
> >> last opportunity. I won't make this offer again, and if you don't
> >> turn up, we'll all know why......
> >
> > Yeah, they'll know it's because I have better things to do than
> > humour a fantasist.
> >
>
> Another last grasp at straws more like.
>
> I'll wait in the Travelodge car park from noon until 1.45 with a CB to
> play with if it's raining. After then I'm gone. The Belgian GP is on
> and I'll be watching it with a bowl of crackersnacks and some chunks of
> cheese.
>
> Be there or be square.
Fuck off, tosspot.
Steve
> >> news:4e582b37$0$12436$c3e8da3$a8a65a91 @news.astraweb.com:
> >>
> >> > Doc Thingy wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Les" <lesr...@icqmail.com> wrote in news:4e580cdc$0$12453
> >> >> $8f2e...@news.shared-secrets.com:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> So you proudly claim to be a socialist and you vote Labour,
> >> >> >> then equally proudly you boast about your tax avoidance. Nice.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > LOL If this was a game of cricket I'd say you just hit a six :)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Did you miss him shooting himself in the foot?
> >> >>
> >> >> He's claiming EVERYTHING I say here is lies, which has to include
> >> >> my Socialist background, my business and my income and therefore
> >> >> the tax avoidance. One of his comments can be, but not both.
> >> >
> >> > You got that wrong, fuckface, what I'm saying is that it's safer to
> >> > assume what you write is a lie because you do it so often.
> >> >
> >>
> >> LOL, only because you say so and you can't disprove anything
> >
> > The flipside to that is you can't prove anything, you egotist.
> >
>
> But I can, so easily. All you have to do is turn up and I'll show you
> everything you want to see, from the farm to my passport, a recent bank
> statement (only if you show me yours). Pics of me at my Ph.D diploma
> award with Chancellor Prince Philip at Cambridge University, a more
> recent pic of me with my degree diploma at Durham U and the wall of
> awards in my office for the pedigree livestock shows at the East Of
> England Shows, the guns in my gun cabinet, my brothers E Type and the
> wifes mothers undies. Of course, I expect you to lie about it
> afterwards in usenet because that's what you do, but my brother or I
> will take photos and video of you, so you'd better bring your photo
> driving licence. Without it, you don't get to see inside the office. I
> won't make your details public unless you post my location or you lie
> about me again, but they will lie on file (as the coppers say).
>
> Nothing is gonna happen to you unless you have an unconnected accident
> on the drive here or home. Too many people know I've asked you to come
> here and I've already spoken with the local cops (the police house is
> just behind King Charles field). We have school classes on the farm all
> the time, so the farm is as safe as we can make it. There's nothing to
> worry about unless you're afraid of being shown up as a pillock.
Try to understand this, I am not dancing for you.
You are just words on the screen from a puffed up little twat.
You are powerless.
Steve
>
> Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:4e58ffca$0$30705$c3e8da3$12bc...@news.astraweb.com:
>
> > Doc Thingy wrote:
> >>
> >> Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
> >> news:4e582bb1$0$12436$c3e8da3$a8a65a91 @news.astraweb.com:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > For the record.
> >> > Doc Savage is a pseudonym. His real name and location are unknown.
> >> > alt.binaries.chatter is a binary group and not archived by google.
> >>
> >> My fathers legal name was Adam Savage. We were well known in our
> >> area west of Peterborough. Shortly before his death, he had been
> >> elected to the village Council as planning officer for the village.
> >> Is my usernym REALLY a pseudonym, am I simply using my fathers name -
> >> or that of a pulp fiction and movie character?
> >
> > It is a pseudonym, not your real name. You are not traceable from
> > your usenet posts.
>
> I've always said it wasn't my real name, but Savage was my fathers real
> name (by deed poll).
And he was a councillor?
Google comes up with nothing. No surprise there then.
Funny thing is that when I search for known councillors they come
up in a google search.
Aksherly, the name "Doc Savage" was given to me in
> the small-tits group by one of the early members towards the end of
> 1999. I never saw any reason to change it.
A porn group. Well, well.
> > I used to for many years post with my full name
> > on usenet - not once in real life has anyone mentioned my usenet
> > posts to me.
>
> We only have your word for that.
Yeah, and my word is worth something, unlike yours.
It's more likely that it has happened
> with people you've come to know, same as with me.
Nope, never. I've even mentioned usenet and newsgroups to people
and got a blank expression back.
Some people who were
> posting in u.l.peterborough are or were real time acqaintences. I used
> to buy baccy from one, and another was a club doorman who used to
> frequent the same gym as me, so it's easily possible they talked about
> me.
So how come they've not been posting to this group?
> I'm also Jewish and hated by some people because of my beliefs,
> my mode of dress and because I'm successful, so I'm a natural target
> anyway.
I'd say it is because you are a prick.
> I introduced usenet to most of the village when I opened the
> cloud and hot spots. Village life is a bit like Emmerdale. People talk
> and pretty soon, everybody knows your business and secrets.
So where are these people?
You are lying.
> >> > The vast majority of the population have no idea what usenet or
> >> > newsgroups are. Even if they did know the chances of someone
> >> > recognising him from what is written in abc are nil. The chances
> >> > of someone assaulting his daughter because what is written in a
> >> > binary group are even lower.
> >>
> >> Have you conveniently 'forgotten' to mention your crossposts to
> >> uk.local.peterborough which brought "Mr Justice" John Gartons to help
> >> you?
> >
> > I remember crossposting to uk.local.peterborough. *Absolutely* no
> > one from there came to help me. John Gartons starting posting to
> > abc a long time after that period and I had *absolutely* no
> > dealings with him, in fact I prolly wasn't active on abc at the
> > time.
>
> What a pile of bile. You and he chatted in here and Roy and Pete both
> joined in ridiculing him.
I did not, you've made this up, liar
You also crossposted a couple to alt.control
> and brought "Ah" back with you.
I did not, you've made this up, liar.
I know of "Ah", he was a regular on alt.talk.bollocks with Phucker,
if he came to abc it is because Phucker crossposted there. I
wonder what he would think of your allegation that you sent him
packing?
He tried to disprove something I'd said
> about an MV control message, so I pointed him towards the relevant RFC
> (1036b) and he went off in a sulk, suitably chided and was never seen
> again.
I don't remember this, either. You've made it up or I wasn't
there.
> > And I have no reason to believe that you don't regularly perform
> > anilingus on your goats. FTR, I have had no email contact
> > whatsoever with John Gartons, but I have with you, and I am so
> > tempted to publish the lot here. It's good stuff starting with you
> > trying to persuade me to see things from your point of view and
> > finishing with you threatening me.
>
> Run out of "facts" and started on your brand of filth again?
You started with the innuendo. What do you think of me making the
emails public?
> I didn't really mean to write "facts", I meant lies. You're the only
> person here who is lying and inventing facts, and you're so blatant at
> it. Never mind. I'll see you tomorrow, I hope.
You really are a thick twat.
> >
> >> > Doc Savage/Thingy has never mentioned this incident or made this
> >> > allegation until now. Guess why?
> >> > That's right, it is because he is lying.
> >> >
> >>
> >> This isn't the first time I mentioned my daughters assault or the
> >> damage the boys father did to my new car.
> >
> > Blimey, damage to your new car too. That's just awful.
> > You've got nice long retention on giganews, finding those posts
> > where you've mentioned this before will be no problem for you.
>
> The group only goes back to 2008 as you well know. The mids are useless
> now. Each time I parked outside the school when I picked my girls up he
> did something to the car. He started out by keying my new Zafira with
> swastikas and the words LYING JEW, then he tried to force a nail into
> one of the door locks and broke off the offside mirror and screen wiper,
> then he heeled some dents into the door and the next day, my brother and
> his army buddies were there, watching for him. He didn't half sruggle
> before the police got there to take him away. Good job the school has a
> CCTV cam pointed towards the gate or we might have been done for
> bruising him.
And if it happened it had fuck all to do with usenet posts.
You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
> >> The boys father was fined and
> >> ordered to pay costs and some restitution to my insurance company.
> >> He failed to do so, and was jailed for 3 months. His son, the 9yr old
> >> boy who hit my 5yr old deaf/blind daughter with the bottle of water
> >> admitted that his father had told him to 'hurt her' and was put under
> >> a care and supervision order. When the boys father was jailed, the
> >> boy was taken into care and afaik, is still in care. All of that is
> >> documented in court records with limited coverage in the local press
> >> - available on microfishe in the newspaper office and the local City
> >> library.
> >
> > Too funny.
> > If any of this did happen, which I doubt, none of it had anything
> > at all to do with what was posted on usenet. You know it, I know
> > it, everybody knows it.
>
> We only have your word for that. The court transcripts says differently
> - or have you forgotten that courts have recorders and stenographers?
> You can buy the transcripts and judgement for less than a tenner.
Go on then, pay for it. I can't because I don't know what to ask
for. I'll reimburse you through paypal. That's a promise.
Everyone reading this can bear witness.
> So why did you post to Peterborough when you could have posted to any of
> hundreds of empty groups which were not geographically tied to me or my
> my past?
I was trying to shame you, but you're shameless, plus the nym "Doc
Savage" means nothing to anyone. No one in real life knows who Doc
Savage is.
The only reason I can see is that you were looking for help,
> otherwise you would have posted to alt bonehead pete.hucker with all
> your other crap
One thing that can be said in Peter's favour, he didn't try to big
it up behind a nym. You do.
How pathetic is that? <--- rhetorical.
Steve
> > And I have no reason to believe that you don't regularly perform
> > anilingus on your goats. FTR, I have had no email contact
> > whatsoever with John Gartons, but I have with you, and I am so
> > tempted to publish the lot here.
>
> I hope there's nothing slagging me off in those emails :)
Heheheheh. Nothing in those particular emails, no :-)
Steve
Come on, Les. This is Doc's version of events.
Steve
> >>> Have you conveniently 'forgotten' to mention your crossposts to
> >>> uk.local.peterborough which brought "Mr Justice" John Gartons to help
> >>> you?
> >>
> >> I remember crossposting to uk.local.peterborough. *Absolutely* no
> >> one from there came to help me. John Gartons starting posting to
> >> abc a long time after that period and I had *absolutely* no
> >> dealings with him, in fact I prolly wasn't active on abc at the
> >> time.
> >
> > What a pile of bile. You and he chatted in here and Roy and Pete both
> > joined in ridiculing him.
>
> I did? It sounds the sort of thing I may playfully do but I can't remember
> it.
It didn't happen, that's why.
Steve
>
> "Steve" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:4e58ff66$0$30705$c3e8da3$12bc...@news.astraweb.com...
> > Doc Thingy wrote:
> >>
> >> Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote in news:4e582b37$0$12436$c3e8da3$a8a65a91
> >> @news.astraweb.com:
> >>
> >> > Doc Thingy wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Les" <lesr...@icqmail.com> wrote in news:4e580cdc$0$12453
> >> >> $8f2e...@news.shared-secrets.com:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> So you proudly claim to be a socialist and you vote Labour, then
> >> >> >> equally proudly you boast about your tax avoidance. Nice.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > LOL If this was a game of cricket I'd say you just hit a six :)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Did you miss him shooting himself in the foot?
> >> >>
> >> >> He's claiming EVERYTHING I say here is lies, which has to include my
> >> >> Socialist background, my business and my income and therefore the tax
> >> >> avoidance. One of his comments can be, but not both.
> >> >
> >> > You got that wrong, fuckface, what I'm saying is that it's safer to
> >> > assume what you write is a lie because you do it so often.
> >> >
> >>
> >> LOL, only because you say so and you can't disprove anything
> >
> > The flipside to that is you can't prove anything, you egotist.
>
> the chuck wagon and the tickets (suitably redacted) of his ￜ250
> flights to Fiji a couple of months ago :)
Nah, he'll insist you drive all the way up there and he'll meet you
down a country lane.
Doc Thingy
news:4e5a886f$0$32188$c3e8da3$40d4...@news.astraweb.com:
>>
>> Nothing is gonna happen to you unless you have an unconnected
>> accident on the drive here or home. Too many people know I've asked
>> you to come here and I've already spoken with the local cops (the
>> police house is just behind King Charles field). We have school
>> classes on the farm all the time, so the farm is as safe as we can
>> make it. There's nothing to worry about unless you're afraid of
>> being shown up as a pillock.
>
> Try to understand this, I am not dancing for you.
> You are just words on the screen from a puffed up little twat.
> You are powerless.
>
Try to understand this you microbial dungpile. I don't dance for
anybody, least of all for a tick turd like you. You're all mouth and no
trousers, just a smear left on everywhere you sit, like any other coward
hiding behind his mummys keyboard.
You made all the demands. Why should I post my address and personal
details if you won't post yours? You've made all the claims, none of
which you can substantiate, and I offered to open my house for you to
see for yourself. To me, and to most people with two brain cells, you
blow more hot air than the Montgolfier Brothers. Does your wife use
your mouth to dry her washing.
I'm not powerless, I just don't want any power over others. I'll leave
that for jumped up little nazis like you.
Doc Thingy
news:4e5a8960$0$32188$c3e8da3$40d4...@news.astraweb.com:
Give me your address and I'll bring my copy down to you the next time
I'm down your way
>
>> So why did you post to Peterborough when you could have posted to any
>> of hundreds of empty groups which were not geographically tied to me
>> or my my past?
>
> I was trying to shame you, but you're shameless, plus the nym "Doc
> Savage" means nothing to anyone. No one in real life knows who Doc
> Savage is.
That's almost true. Most people know me as Doc Goldblum
>
> The only reason I can see is that you were looking for help,
>> otherwise you would have posted to alt bonehead pete.hucker with all
>> your other crap
>
> One thing that can be said in Peter's favour, he didn't try to big
> it up behind a nym. You do.
> How pathetic is that? <--- rhetorical.
>
99.9% crap. You should be a politician. They get votes for denying
what's true
Doc Thingy
news:4e5a885a$0$32188$c3e8da3$40d4...@news.astraweb.com:
>
> chatter, unoffical and friends are on every server I check and
> that's what matters.
Unoffickle wasn't on Virgin until very recently when they moved to
highwinds
That's why Gruffy dumped it and went back to BT. Seems like all your
claims are based on lies....Course, you never did let truth get in the way
of your attempts to bully people.
Dave Moorman
Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> You are just words on the screen from a puffed up little twat.
> You are powerless.
Seems to be exerting quite a bit of power over you, Steve.
Doc Thingy
news:4e5a89d9$0$32188$c3e8da3$40d4...@news.astraweb.com:
>> the chuck wagon and the tickets (suitably redacted) of his �250
>> flights to Fiji a couple of months ago :)
>
> Nah, he'll insist you drive all the way up there and he'll meet you
> down a country lane.
You townies would never find a country lane. You can't even find the
biggest building on nearly 50km of wide road.
Doc Thingy
22AAE9.145...@news.giganews.com:
...and permeating most of his waking thoughts, and a good percentage of his
sleep time as well no doubt.
Just in case you hadn't realised. Les/Roy takes time off to study an
obscure subject, then he comes here and posts some comment just to lure
somebody into replying with a commonly accepted, but wrong answer, then he
starts to slowly ridicule them.
The next time he leads with his left, ask yourself if you can smell a trap
before you reply.
Steve
>
> Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:4e5a886f$0$32188$c3e8da3$40d4...@news.astraweb.com:
>
> >>
> >> Nothing is gonna happen to you unless you have an unconnected
> >> accident on the drive here or home. Too many people know I've asked
> >> you to come here and I've already spoken with the local cops (the
> >> police house is just behind King Charles field). We have school
> >> classes on the farm all the time, so the farm is as safe as we can
> >> make it. There's nothing to worry about unless you're afraid of
> >> being shown up as a pillock.
> >
> > Try to understand this, I am not dancing for you.
> > You are just words on the screen from a puffed up little twat.
> > You are powerless.
> >
>
> Try to understand this you microbial dungpile. I don't dance for
> anybody, least of all for a tick turd like you. You're all mouth and no
> trousers, just a smear left on everywhere you sit, like any other coward
> hiding behind his mummys keyboard.
PMSL!
> You made all the demands. Why should I post my address and personal
> details if you won't post yours?
I don't brag about my work, fortune, stature, that's why. When did
you see a post from me bragging? You do it constantly. Something
is obviously missing from your life or you wouldn't need to try and
impress faceless usenetters. Don't you talk to your wife or spend
time with your kids? The amount of time you spend working and
bragging on the internet must leave very little time for them. I'd
have thought that having a daughter with the condition yours has
would especially require all your spare time. Seems it doesn't.
> You've made all the claims
What claims?
> none of
> which you can substantiate, and I offered to open my house for you to
> see for yourself.
You're bluffing. You count on me not having the time to waste
travelling to the back of beyond on the behest of a usenet kook,
and you're right, I don't have the time for that. I have a family
that I do spend time with and talk to.
To me, and to most people with two brain cells, you
> blow more hot air than the Montgolfier Brothers. Does your wife use
> your mouth to dry her washing.
My missus uses my mouth for other stuff.
Is your missus jealous of the goats?
> I'm not powerless, I just don't want any power over others. I'll
leave
> that for jumped up little nazis like you.
Hahahahahaha!! Priceless.
Steve
You brought the subject of your father being a councillor up. How
about a link to prove it?
> > Aksherly, the name "Doc Savage" was given to me in
> >> the small-tits group by one of the early members towards the end of
> >> 1999. I never saw any reason to change it.
> >
> > A porn group. Well, well.
Were you a Rabbi at the same time as participating in this porn
group?
> >> > I used to for many years post with my full name
> >> > on usenet - not once in real life has anyone mentioned my usenet
> >> > posts to me.
> >>
> >> We only have your word for that.
> >
> > Yeah, and my word is worth something, unlike yours.
> >
> > It's more likely that it has happened
> >> with people you've come to know, same as with me.
> >
> > Nope, never. I've even mentioned usenet and newsgroups to people
> > and got a blank expression back.
> >>
> > Some people who were
> >> posting in u.l.peterborough are or were real time acqaintences. I
> >> used to buy baccy from one, and another was a club doorman who used
> >> to frequent the same gym as me, so it's easily possible they talked
> >> about me.
> >
> > So how come they've not been posting to this group?
Well?
> >> I'm also Jewish and hated by some people because of my beliefs,
> >> my mode of dress and because I'm successful, so I'm a natural target
> >> anyway.
> >
> > I'd say it is because you are a prick.
Irrefutable, innit.
> >> I introduced usenet to most of the village when I opened the
> >> cloud and hot spots. Village life is a bit like Emmerdale. People
> >> talk and pretty soon, everybody knows your business and secrets.
> >
> > So where are these people?
> > You are lying.
No answer?
> >> >> > The vast majority of the population have no idea what usenet or
> >> >> > newsgroups are. Even if they did know the chances of someone
> >> >> > recognising him from what is written in abc are nil. The
> >> >> > chances of someone assaulting his daughter because what is
> >> >> > written in a binary group are even lower.
> >> >>
> >> >> Have you conveniently 'forgotten' to mention your crossposts to
> >> >> uk.local.peterborough which brought "Mr Justice" John Gartons to
> >> >> help you?
> >> >
> >> > I remember crossposting to uk.local.peterborough. *Absolutely* no
> >> > one from there came to help me. John Gartons starting posting to
> >> > abc a long time after that period and I had *absolutely* no
> >> > dealings with him, in fact I prolly wasn't active on abc at the
> >> > time.
> >>
> >> What a pile of bile. You and he chatted in here and Roy and Pete
> >> both joined in ridiculing him.
> >
> > I did not, you've made this up, liar
No answer?
> > You also crossposted a couple to alt.control
> >> and brought "Ah" back with you.
> >
> > I did not, you've made this up, liar.
> > I know of "Ah", he was a regular on alt.talk.bollocks with Phucker,
> > if he came to abc it is because Phucker crossposted there. I
> > wonder what he would think of your allegation that you sent him
> > packing?
No answer?
> > He tried to disprove something I'd said
> >> about an MV control message, so I pointed him towards the relevant
> >> RFC (1036b) and he went off in a sulk, suitably chided and was never
> >> seen again.
> >
> > I don't remember this, either. You've made it up or I wasn't
> > there.
No answer?
> >> > And I have no reason to believe that you don't regularly perform
> >> > anilingus on your goats. FTR, I have had no email contact
> >> > whatsoever with John Gartons, but I have with you, and I am so
> >> > tempted to publish the lot here. It's good stuff starting with you
> >> > trying to persuade me to see things from your point of view and
> >> > finishing with you threatening me.
> >>
> >> Run out of "facts" and started on your brand of filth again?
> >
> > You started with the innuendo. What do you think of me making the
> > emails public?
Well, what do you think? It's a great insight into how your
controlling mind works.
> >> I didn't really mean to write "facts", I meant lies. You're the only
> >> person here who is lying and inventing facts, and you're so blatant
> >> at it. Never mind. I'll see you tomorrow, I hope.
> >
> > You really are a thick twat.
> >
> >> >
> >> >> > Doc Savage/Thingy has never mentioned this incident or made this
> >> >> > allegation until now. Guess why?
> >> >> > That's right, it is because he is lying.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> This isn't the first time I mentioned my daughters assault or the
> >> >> damage the boys father did to my new car.
> >> >
> >> > Blimey, damage to your new car too. That's just awful.
> >> > You've got nice long retention on giganews, finding those posts
> >> > where you've mentioned this before will be no problem for you.
> >>
> >> The group only goes back to 2008 as you well know. The mids are
> >> useless now. Each time I parked outside the school when I picked my
> >> girls up he did something to the car. He started out by keying my
> >> new Zafira with swastikas and the words LYING JEW, then he tried to
> >> force a nail into one of the door locks and broke off the offside
> >> mirror and screen wiper, then he heeled some dents into the door and
> >> the next day, my brother and his army buddies were there, watching
> >> for him. He didn't half sruggle before the police got there to take
> >> him away. Good job the school has a CCTV cam pointed towards the
> >> gate or we might have been done for bruising him.
> >
> > And if it happened it had fuck all to do with usenet posts.
> > You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
No answer, Doc Liar?
> >> >> The boys father was fined and
> >> >> ordered to pay costs and some restitution to my insurance company.
> >> >> He failed to do so, and was jailed for 3 months. His son, the 9yr
> >> >> old boy who hit my 5yr old deaf/blind daughter with the bottle of
> >> >> water admitted that his father had told him to 'hurt her' and was
> >> >> put under a care and supervision order. When the boys father was
> >> >> jailed, the boy was taken into care and afaik, is still in care.
> >> >> All of that is documented in court records with limited coverage
> >> >> in the local press - available on microfishe in the newspaper
> >> >> office and the local City library.
> >> >
> >> > Too funny.
> >> > If any of this did happen, which I doubt, none of it had anything
> >> > at all to do with what was posted on usenet. You know it, I know
> >> > it, everybody knows it.
> >>
> >> We only have your word for that. The court transcripts says
> >> differently - or have you forgotten that courts have recorders and
> >> stenographers? You can buy the transcripts and judgement for less
> >> than a tenner.
> >
> > Go on then, pay for it. I can't because I don't know what to ask
> > for. I'll reimburse you through paypal. That's a promise.
> > Everyone reading this can bear witness.
>
> Give me your address and I'll bring my copy down to you the next time
> I'm down your way
No thanks, I'd rather get the transcripts from the court as you
suggested. Can I have the case number and court, please?
> >> So why did you post to Peterborough when you could have posted to any
> >> of hundreds of empty groups which were not geographically tied to me
> >> or my my past?
> >
> > I was trying to shame you, but you're shameless, plus the nym "Doc
> > Savage" means nothing to anyone. No one in real life knows who Doc
> > Savage is.
>
> That's almost true. Most people know me as Doc Goldblum
So that man who instructed his kid to assault yours after what he
had read on usenet couldn't have known it was you, then?
That's almost an admission you lied. Well done.
> > The only reason I can see is that you were looking for help,
> >> otherwise you would have posted to alt bonehead pete.hucker with all
> >> your other crap
> >
> > One thing that can be said in Peter's favour, he didn't try to big
> > it up behind a nym. You do.
> > How pathetic is that? <--- rhetorical.
> >
>
>
> 99.9% crap. You should be a politician. They get votes for denying
> what's true
You swerved 99.9% of the previous post. Even politicians aren't
that slippery.
Steve
>
> Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:4e5a885a$0$32188$c3e8da3$40d4...@news.astraweb.com:
>
>
>
> >
> > chatter, unoffical and friends are on every server I check and
> > that's what matters.
>
> Unoffickle wasn't on Virgin until very recently when they moved to
> highwinds
But it is now, so your attempt to control the regulars on unoffical
was for nothing.
> That's why Gruffy dumped it and went back to BT. Seems like all your
> claims are based on lies
What lie? The groups are on every server I've checked. That's not
a lie.
....Course, you never did let truth get in the way
> of your attempts to bully people.
Remind me, who was it that bullied and alienated most of the regs
from unoffical and issued threats to sue, me or you?
Steve
There's a few things you need to consider, Dave. Doc didn't claim
that usenet posts from you led to someone assaulting his daughter,
he made that claim about me, and it is a very new claim. When lies
like that go unchallenged they become "fact". Doc has a lot of
"facts" that aren't true and I'm challenging them. When I wrote he
has no power over me I was referring to his demands that I drive
halfway up the country to see him. He can stick that demand up his
arse. If you are implying that by replying to Doc he has some sort
of power over me, than I have equally the same power over him.
Steve
At least I don't make sheep nervous.
Dave Moorman
Doc Thingy <em...@wherever.con> wrote:
I'm always willing to engage in a debate but was raised by a science
teacher and try to stick to the facts. Much to my chagrin, Les has
shown some of my facts to be of dubious quality.
Dave Moorman
Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
That's true, Steve. It's equal.
Doc Thingy
I usually stay away from political discussions. I can only name four
British politicians and one of those is dead, one is Thatcher, who is
almost dead, and the other two are Cameron and Clegg aka Waldorf and
Statler, from the Muppet Show.
Doc Thingy
It's far from equal Dave. Steve makes a habit of claiming things didn't
happen when the message is no longer available. I did post details
about my daughter being assaulted several times and just recently I
mentioned the boys father within the same context five or six weeks ago.
Maybe you can recall me using the phrase "I heard he had an accident.
He was drunk, staggering home on the road and was hit by a car. It was
none of my doing. According to the cops, paint samples suggest he was
hit by a metallic gold coloured Ford Granada"
Steves idea of not coming to see for himself is simply so that he can
continue to naysay all my comments without having to prove anything.
Carolyn has an open invitation to come and stay at the farm in her
camper. Maybe she will call in on her way home from touring Scotland.
We're only about 10 miles from the M1
Who makes demands is a matter of opinion. Steve was first. Roy has
twice demanded that I post photographs and scans of used airline tickets
I discarded weeks ago without even a please or a 'would you mind'?
For the record, photographs prove nothing, and I could already hear
whispers of "It's photoshopped" and "that's off a website" in the
background.
For my part, I offered to open my house to Steve and let him see for
himself. It's the only irrefutable way to prove anything, though I
doubt that Steve would ever admit it because it doesn't suit his
purpose.
Steve
[...]
> >> Just in case you hadn't realised. Les/Roy takes time off to study an
> >> obscure subject, then he comes here and posts some comment just to
> >> lure somebody into replying with a commonly accepted, but wrong
> >> answer, then he starts to slowly ridicule them.
> >> The next time he leads with his left, ask yourself if you can smell a
> >> trap before you reply.
> >
> > I'm always willing to engage in a debate but was raised by a science
> > teacher and try to stick to the facts. Much to my chagrin, Les has
> > shown some of my facts to be of dubious quality.
> >
>
> I usually stay away from political discussions. I can only name four
> British politicians and one of those is dead, one is Thatcher, who is
> almost dead, and the other two are Cameron and Clegg aka Waldorf and
> Statler, from the Muppet Show.
So you can't name the leader of the Labour party?
Yeah, riiight.
Bit of a pointless lie that, Doc Liar.
However, in the unlikely event you aren't fibbing and you really do
have such an awful memory, then that would explain the fiction you
post as facts.
Steve
>
> Dave Moorman <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nobody-
> 21F3A8.180...@news.giganews.com:
>
> > In article <4e5abc17$0$12278$c3e8da3$4db3...@news.astraweb.com>,
> > Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Dave Moorman wrote:
> >> >
> >> > In article <4e5a886f$0$32188$c3e8da3$40d4...@news.astraweb.com>,
> >> > Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > You are just words on the screen from a puffed up little twat.
> >> > > You are powerless.
> >> >
> >> > Seems to be exerting quite a bit of power over you, Steve.
> >>
> >> There's a few things you need to consider, Dave. Doc didn't claim
> >> that usenet posts from you led to someone assaulting his daughter,
> >> he made that claim about me, and it is a very new claim. When lies
> >> like that go unchallenged they become "fact". Doc has a lot of
> >> "facts" that aren't true and I'm challenging them. When I wrote he
> >> has no power over me I was referring to his demands that I drive
> >> halfway up the country to see him. He can stick that demand up his
> >> arse. If you are implying that by replying to Doc he has some sort
> >> of power over me, than I have equally the same power over him.
> >
> > That's true, Steve. It's equal.
> >
>
> It's far from equal Dave.
Dave was referring to the "power we exert over each other", not the
claptrap you've written below.
Steve makes a habit of claiming things didn't
> happen when the message is no longer available.
And you make a habit of lying about things that can no longer be
proved, but you also lie about stuff that could be verified one way
or the other.
I did post details
> about my daughter being assaulted several times and just recently I
> mentioned the boys father within the same context five or six weeks ago.
That MID shouldn't have expired. When you post it will it show
that the boy's father told him to assault your daughter because of
what I had written on usenet?
> Maybe you can recall me using the phrase "I heard he had an
accident.
> He was drunk, staggering home on the road and was hit by a car. It was
> none of my doing. According to the cops, paint samples suggest he was
> hit by a metallic gold coloured Ford Granada"
And just what has that got to do with your allegations, Doc Liar?
> Steves idea of not coming to see for himself is simply so that he can
> continue to naysay all my comments without having to prove anything.
"You're bluffing. You count on me not having the time to waste
travelling to the back of beyond on the behest of a usenet kook,
and you're right, I don't have the time for that".
> Carolyn has an open invitation to come and stay at the farm in
her
> camper. Maybe she will call in on her way home from touring Scotland.
> We're only about 10 miles from the M1
Not without an address she won't.
> Who makes demands is a matter of opinion. Steve was first. Roy has
> twice demanded that I post photographs and scans of used airline tickets
> I discarded weeks ago without even a please or a 'would you mind'?
Holiday pictures? Scenery?
> For the record, photographs prove nothing, and I could already hear
> whispers of "It's photoshopped" and "that's off a website" in the
> background.
I'd take a picture posted by you over your word, any day.
> For my part, I offered to open my house to Steve and let him see for
> himself. It's the only irrefutable way to prove anything, though I
> doubt that Steve would ever admit it because it doesn't suit his
> purpose.
Then that exercise would be pointless, wouldn't it?
Les
"Doc Thingy" <em...@wherever.con> wrote in message
> "Les" <lesr...@icqmail.com> wrote in
> news:4e5a3d75$1$12450$8f2e...@news.shared-secrets.com:
>
>>
>> "Doc Thingy" <em...@wherever.con> wrote in message
>>> Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote in
>>> news:4e58ffca$0$30705$c3e8da3$12bc...@news.astraweb.com:
>>>
>
>>>>> Have you conveniently 'forgotten' to mention your crossposts to
>>>>> uk.local.peterborough which brought "Mr Justice" John Gartons to
>>>>> help you?
>>>>
>>>> I remember crossposting to uk.local.peterborough. *Absolutely* no
>>>> one from there came to help me. John Gartons starting posting to
>>>> abc a long time after that period and I had *absolutely* no
>>>> dealings with him, in fact I prolly wasn't active on abc at the
>>>> time.
>>>
>>> What a pile of bile. You and he chatted in here and Roy and Pete
>>> both joined in ridiculing him.
>>
>> from one or two people from this group, I can't remember who but one
>> of them may have been Gartons.
>>
>>
>
> crossing Bourges Boulevard from the ASDA side towars Woollies with his
> bike in the dark and was hit by a car. There's a proper crossing less
> than 100 yards from where he was crossing.
OK, I didn't realise he died in the accident.
Les
"Doc Thingy" <em...@wherever.con> wrote in message
> Dave Moorman <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nobody-
> 22AAE9.145...@news.giganews.com:
>
>> In article <4e5a886f$0$32188$c3e8da3$40d4...@news.astraweb.com>,
>> Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> You are just words on the screen from a puffed up little twat.
>>> You are powerless.
>>
>> Seems to be exerting quite a bit of power over you, Steve.
>>
>
> ...and permeating most of his waking thoughts, and a good percentage of
> his
> sleep time as well no doubt.
>
> Just in case you hadn't realised. Les/Roy takes time off to study an
> obscure subject, then he comes here and posts some comment just to lure
I'm keenly interested in politics, always have been, I'm also interested in
how adults will accept spoon-fed drivel as fact, that's why I checked the
bullshit on teenage pregnancy rates being significantly higher in Republican
states.
> somebody into replying with a commonly accepted, but wrong answer, then he
> starts to slowly ridicule them.
Not at all, usually I ridicule the original comment, as in teenage pregnancy
rates being significantly higher in Republican states.
> The next time he leads with his left, ask yourself if you can smell a trap
> before you reply.
Give me an example where I led with my left.
Les
"Dave Moorman" <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:nobody-D1E27F....@news.giganews.com...
Thanks Dave, you didn't let Doc sucker you in there :)
Les
"Doc Thingy" <em...@wherever.con> wrote in message
I was seeking to help you, I should have thought you'd jump at the chance
to cast doubt on Steve's allegations that you're a world class bullshitter.
> For the record, photographs prove nothing, and I could already hear
> whispers of "It's photoshopped" and "that's off a website" in the
> background.
I see, that's a bit rich considering you posted a photo of your alleged boat
in the same boatyard as Gartons.
Les
LOL fiction can also be funny.
Doc Thingy
news:4e601331$0$5519$8f2e...@news.shared-secrets.com:
Ruggish.
>
>
>> For the record, photographs prove nothing, and I could already hear
>> whispers of "It's photoshopped" and "that's off a website" in the
>> background.
>
> I see, that's a bit rich considering you posted a photo of your
> alleged boat in the same boatyard as Gartons.
>
>
>
It could have been anyones boat, and all it proved was that I had pics
of a boat in a boatyard he used and knew. He sought not to challenge
it, just as he didn't challenge the pic I posted of my Nikon (which I
still have).
What did surprise me was that nobody thought to ask a penniless student
who had to hitch hike and walk from Lancaster to Peterborough to meet
his father who had been missing for four years, could afford to own a
boat AND pay mooring fees to keep her there....
To save your brain boiling in contemplation. Dad bought it from a
neighbour in Peterborough, and gave it to me when he discovered he could
neither climb aboard, nor disembark due to his disability. I couldn't
afford the fees and fuel costs to take her back to Lancaster via canals
and rivers, so during my next holidays we painted what needed to be
painted and varnished the rest. We sold it to a chav couple and he
bought me a 1.2 litre Skoda Estelle with the proceeds.
Doc Thingy
news:4e601331$1$5519$8f2e...@news.shared-secrets.com:
AFAIK, he didn't. He suffered a broken arm and some minor head, leg and
chest injuries in the accident - some from the impact and some from a
bad landing. He died several weeks later but I don't know for certain
if the two were connected, but assumed they were.
Doc Thingy
news:4e601332$1$5519$8f2e...@news.shared-secrets.com:
Tories must be left because Labour is always right and you're a dyed in
the wool tory supporter!
Steve
>
> "Doc Thingy" <em...@wherever.con> wrote in message
> news:Xns9F513C227DFF...@216.196.109.131...
> > Who makes demands is a matter of opinion. Steve was first. Roy has
> > twice demanded that I post photographs and scans of used airline tickets
> > I discarded weeks ago without even a please or a 'would you mind'?
>
> I was seeking to help you, I should have thought you'd jump at the chance
> to cast doubt on Steve's allegations that you're a world class bullshitter.
He's got his back to the wall. He can't answer numerous questions
and so now tries to ignore them.
Steve
Dave is a very rare usenet creature - he admits when he is wrong.
Good on him.
Steve
That word is not in the OED 11th edition. What does it mean?
> >> For the record, photographs prove nothing, and I could already hear
> >> whispers of "It's photoshopped" and "that's off a website" in the
> >> background.
> >
> > I see, that's a bit rich considering you posted a photo of your
> > alleged boat in the same boatyard as Gartons.
> >
> >
> >
>
> It could have been anyones boat, and all it proved was that I had pics
> of a boat in a boatyard he used and knew. He sought not to challenge
> it, just as he didn't challenge the pic I posted of my Nikon (which I
> still have).
Most people don't challenge what you write, that doesn't mean they
believe you.
> What did surprise me was that nobody thought to ask a penniless student
> who had to hitch hike and walk from Lancaster to Peterborough to meet
> his father who had been missing for four years, could afford to own a
> boat AND pay mooring fees to keep her there....
>
> To save your brain boiling in contemplation. Dad bought it from a
> neighbour in Peterborough, and gave it to me when he discovered he could
> neither climb aboard, nor disembark due to his disability. I couldn't
> afford the fees and fuel costs to take her back to Lancaster via canals
> and rivers, so during my next holidays we painted what needed to be
> painted and varnished the rest. We sold it to a chav couple and he
> bought me a 1.2 litre Skoda Estelle with the proceeds.
This could, or could not be true.
Les
True, and I don't think he needs Doc to tell him what I'm like :)
Les
"Doc Thingy" <em...@wherever.con> wrote in message
> "Les" <lesr...@icqmail.com> wrote in
> news:4e601332$0$5519$8f2e...@news.shared-secrets.com:
>
>>
>> "Doc Thingy" <em...@wherever.con> wrote in message
>>> "Les" <lesr...@icqmail.com> wrote in news:4e5a3d74$0$12450
>>> $8f2e...@news.shared-secrets.com:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Doc Thingy" <em...@wherever.con> wrote in message
>>>>> "Les" <lesr...@icqmail.com> wrote in news:4e580cdc$0$12453
>>>>> $8f2e...@news.shared-secrets.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you proudly claim to be a socialist and you vote Labour, then
>>>>>>> equally proudly you boast about your tax avoidance. Nice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL If this was a game of cricket I'd say you just hit a six :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you miss him shooting himself in the foot?
>>>>>
>>>>> He's claiming EVERYTHING I say here is lies, which has to include
>>>>> my Socialist background, my business and my income and therefore
>>>>> the tax avoidance. One of his comments can be, but not both.
>>>>
>>>> typical Socialist always believes that either someone else should
>>>> pay high tax for society or that the government should simply borrow
>>>> more money so that our children can pay back the debt. Heaven forbid
>>>> that the Socialist actually dig deep for his "principles".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not typical. I have zero interest in and even less knowlege of
>>> politics - that's why I rarely join in this kind of mudslinging. I
>>> have my own views on how the country should be run and it wasn't
>>> Popeye Browns way, nor is it that of the Clown twins currently in
>>> power.
>>>
>>> I've already said that anyone earning more than £50k should pay tax
>>> at 95% on the balance above £50k, but you showed you stupidity in
>>> being unable to calculate percentages or understand the method and
>>> order of calculating PAYE. The current Tory numbers also add up to
>>> more than 100% as far as your ability is concerned.
>>
>> Really, please enlighten me as to where I showed my stupidity in being
>> unable to calculate percentages or understand the method and order of
>> calculating PAYE.
>>
>>
> Sure, you added the percentages which from memory were 20%+60%+40%+18%
> and then suggested that number would be taken from the gross income, but
> of course you can't take more than 100% of the gross.
Seems to be something wrong with your memory, Doc, I didn't state
those percentages.
Regarding taking more than 100% of the gross, in the scenario
that you gave the total tax did work out at more than 100%.
Where did I misunderstand the method and order of calculating PAYE?
Steve
I'm sure he doesn't :-)
Steve
Doc does have an exceedingly bad memory.
> Regarding taking more than 100% of the gross, in the scenario
> that you gave the total tax did work out at more than 100%.
>
> Where did I misunderstand the method and order of calculating PAYE?
I think you may be in for a long wait.
Les
I was hoping he was leading with his left but unfortunately he doesn't
seem to have much on his right to back him up :)
Dave Moorman
Steve <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
It's easier on the usenet than face-to-face.