Barry Manilow Sings At A Wedding

[shado...@gmail.com]

In one of my facebook groups Sharon P. shared
a photo of Barry in a suit and tie. The photo
was posted on Niles Rodgers facebook page. Niles
was a member of the group Chic (Le Freak). Barry
is playing tonight at John Clellan and Jennifer
Woo's wedding. Barry's getting paid $1.2M to play
at this wedding. Someone in this facebook group
figured Barry knew the couple. I wonder if he did?
Linda

[Maria M]

I don't think Barry would charge a friend to sing at their wedding.

Maria

[vmc...@aol.com]

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:45:27 PM UTC+1, shado...@gmail.com wrote:
> In one of my facebook groups Sharon P. shared
>
> a photo of Barry in a suit and tie. The photo
>
> was posted on Niles Rodgers facebook page. Niles
>
> was a member of the group Chic (Le Freak). Barry
>
> is playing tonight at John Clellan and Jennifer
>
> Woo's wedding. Barry's getting paid $1.2M to play
>

> at this wedding. SomI eone in this facebook group

>
> figured Barry knew the couple. I wonder if he did?
>
> Linda

I believe the wedding took place at the Grosvenor Chapel. If that is the one in Mayfair, it explains the reports of Barry being seen at the Dorchester hotel in London and Heathrow Airport.
Irene

[NICKY D]

Why is it always pouring with rain when Barry
comes to the Uk ?!..I agree with Maria - don't
think he would charge such a large fee to play
at a wedding of people he actually knows ..
Incidentally I am flying out of LHR tomorrow
and will being keeping my eyes peeled ! lol

[shado...@gmail.com]

If Barry knew the couple I don't think he'd charge them
either. One of the members of the Manilow Modems facebook
group said that she saw a site that said $1.2M was what
Barry gets. Another person Frances said that this maybe
the scheduling conflict for last weekend. Cancelations
needed to prepare & get to London. I've watched enough
TLC's Yas To The Dress to know that brides plan their
weddings at least a year a head. If the reason Baltimore
and Pittsburgh got rescheduled was so Barry could prepare
to perform at this wedding watch the fans over on facebook
bitch major. They would wonder how could you forget that
you're supposed to sing at wedding and schedule two shows
for last weekend.
Linda

[vmc...@aol.com]

It appears that the bride's father is a billionaire in the far east. Wasn't Garry out there earlier this year? Maybe they had a word then!
Irene

[shado...@gmail.com]

According to someone over on facebook who did a web search.
Jennifer Woo is head of Lane Crawford department stores part
of her billionaire fathers holdings.
John Clellan is a partner of Haldanes a media and entertainment
company in Asia. One of Hong Kong's leading entertainment lawyers.
Linda

[KJM]

Saw the pic/news of this elsewhere. Saw pic of happy couple elsewhere too, lovely photograph have to say. I daresay there will be rumblings (loud ones)
if folk feel he did this, over the two rescheduled concerts, and tbh I would understand their being miffed.

How absolutely wonderful for the couple though, to have Barry sing at an intimate setting, and just for them.

Now where did I put my lottery ticket..................

[denise....@gmail.com]

On Sunday, 23 September 2012 21:11:56 UTC+1, shado...@gmail.com wrote:

When I first saw about Barry singing at this wedding, I wondered if the cancelled shows finally had an explanation. Rotten for the fans to be blown out for a more lucrative performance by Barry, because unless this wedding was arranged at very short notice, surely his schedule could have been better managed. Oh well, not for me to understand the workings of the rich world........

[KJM]

Indeed Denise, but think we are all savvy enough to know by now the party line, as hard to take that it is! Well Barry slipped into the UK and managed to avoid the press, and as had been said above, the weather hardly welcoming for him.

[Suzan]

There seem to be a lot of assumptions being made.

There was an article (not recent) saying the cost for Barry to perform at a wedding (or other private event) was 1.2 M, but that doesn't mean Barry was paid to perform at this wedding. The groom works in the music industry; they could easily be friends.

Also, it only takes a day to get to the U.K. Barry wouldn't have to cancel concerts a week earlier to attend a wedding. As several have mentioned, I'm sure the wedding was planned far in advance.

[denise....@gmail.com]

Tell me about the weather!! We got stuck on the lovely M25 for ages cos all the traffic was sensibly slowing down due to the spray. Our journey took nearly twice as long as usual. I HATE THE M25!!!! They don't call it London's biggest car park for nothing.

[Lorrie]

On Sep 22, 4:45 pm, "shadowma...@gmail.com" <shadowma...@gmail.com>
wrote:

see nothing wrong with manilow being paid to sing at the wedding---i
mean if us regular folk were married wouldnt most of us pay to have a
band? etc?

[marvin]

> see nothing wrong with manilow being paid to sing at the wedding---i
>
> mean if us regular folk were married wouldnt most of us pay to have a
>
> band? etc?

I agree with Lorrie. If Barry indeed had to give up lucrative concerts to perform at a wedding. he should be paid. Given that the posters mention that the couple is known to be affluent, paying a lot of money for an entertainer should be no big deal. Marvin

[Lorrie]

Thanks Marvin

And what you wrote makes sense too
Lorrie

[bookworm]

I have to disagree with you Marvin in the fact that IF an entertainer (any entertainer) has made a prior commitment and so many are relying on this person to carry through with whatever was scheduled, NOTHING should take priority over that commitment except illness or technical difficulties.

I would think it also depends on what is in a person's contract. It's the old saying - Money talks and BS walks! 1.2M to a billionaire is like $100 to a little guy. Must be nice to be in a position where money is no object. And who makes these people so rich? We do by buying their products. The demand is there for whatever they are offering. Steve Jobs is another example. Even all his money couldn't stop him from getting sick and dying.

What about expenses? Do they come out of the fee that was charged for a nice tax write-off?

Yes, we 'little folk' would pay to have a band or whatever at a wedding or event if we could afford it but that kind of fee is ridiculous in my book. Nobody is worth that kind of money - reminds me of all these athletes and the ridiculous salaries they get. But I guess it is all in a person's perspective. On the other hand, a high fee may be requested to weed out all those that would be requesting the person to show for a little private party, etc.

JW

[shado...@gmail.com]

None of us really knows if Barry rescheduled Baltimore and
Pittsburgh because of last weekends wedding in London. A
fan over on the Manilow Modems facebook group thought that
was the case. The good thing is they were able to get new
date for both shows quickly. I don't even know if Barry
knew the groom who is a well known entertainment lawyer.
So who knows if Barry got paid or if he did this without
getting paid.
Linda

[Suzan]

>I agree with Lorrie. If Barry indeed had to give up lucrative concerts to perform at a wedding. he should be paid.

>> I have to disagree with you Marvin in the fact that IF an entertainer (any entertainer) has made a prior commitment and so many are relying on this person to carry through with whatever was scheduled, NOTHING should take priority over that commitment except illness or technical difficulties.

This is an odd discussion. Everyone seems to be assuming that Barry cancelled the concerts to attend this wedding. It only takes a day to get to the U.K., while the shows were almost a week prior. There's no reason to assume the two are related.

Also, we don't know if he was paid to perform or not. The $1.2 M fee comes from an unrelated article dated way back in 2009. He might have been paid to perform, or perhaps he offered to sing as a wedding gift to dear friends. We just don't know.

I agree that IF Barry cancelled concerts to attend a paid wedding gig, then that's not very professional. But I don't see a problem with him getting paid for performing at non-concert events (conventions, political fundraisers, weddings. He's been doing that for years, as do most other performers.

[Suzan]

> None of us really knows if Barry rescheduled Baltimore and

> Pittsburgh because of last weekends wedding in London. <snip>
> So who knows if Barry got paid ...

You posted while I was writing my response -- I guess I should have just written "ditto"!

[Kittenmommy]

On Sep 24, 2:42 am, KJM <ka...@kdaf.co.uk> wrote:

> Now where did I put my lottery ticket..................

I keep saying that if I win the lottery, it'll be Platinums for
everyone! ;)

[Kittenmommy]

On Sep 24, 3:33 pm, denise.harpe...@gmail.com wrote:

> Tell me about the weather!!   We got stuck on the lovely M25 for ages cos all the traffic was sensibly slowing down due to the spray.  Our journey took nearly twice as long as usual.   I HATE THE M25!!!!   They don't call it London's biggest car park for nothing.

You should see the Long Island Expressway... D:

[bookworm]

Please don't include me in your assumption, Suzan. I was speaking in general terms and have no idea whether this happened the same weekend as the cancelled shows or not. Since I have no plans to attend any of the shows, I haven't been keeping track of the scheduled dates. I don't care if he gets paid to appear somewhere or not.....as long as he didn't have something else planned for the same time. We all know Barry has donated a lot of his time for free through the years so it's all good.

I am a firm believer in IF you make a commitment, you have to follow through unless something happens beyond your control. You can't just change your mind because something else comes up you think is a better deal. That's the way I was raised. JW

[bookworm]

That's very nice of you, Km. I've already has the pleasure of speaking with Barry on several occasions so I will decline. Good luck to you. I truly hope you DO win the lottery but you have some competition as I play that thing twice a week. After all, you can't win if you don't play! :)

If you win, can you arrange a meeting for me with Criss Angel, with all expenses paid? lol That man is amazing! Have you ever seen 'Mindfreak' on A&E? Don't know how he does what he does but he is the best of the best in my book. My friends stood right in front of him in Vegas and watched him levitate a lady and they swear there was nothing around her to hold her up. They said if they hadn't have seen it with their own eyes, they would have thought there was some kind of camera trickery on the TV show. It's no wonder he's won Magician of the Year several times. JW

[Kittenmommy]

On Sep 26, 10:46 pm, bookworm <jnnwlk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:51:15 PM UTC-7, Kittenmommy wrote:

> > I keep saying that if I win the lottery, it'll be Platinums for
>
> > everyone! ;)
>
> That's very nice of you, Km. I've already has the pleasure of speaking with Barry on several occasions so I will decline. Good luck to you. I truly hope you DO win the lottery but you have some competition as I play that thing twice a week. After all, you can't win if you don't play! :)

I actually never play the lottery. So my chances of winning are zero!

Sorry!

> If you win, can you arrange a meeting for me with Criss Angel, with all expenses paid? lol That man is amazing! Have you ever seen 'Mindfreak' on A&E? Don't know how he does what he does but he is the best of the best in my book. My friends stood right in front of him in Vegas and watched him levitate a lady and they swear there was nothing around her to hold her up. They said if they hadn't have seen it with their own eyes, they would have thought there was some kind of camera trickery on the TV show. It's no wonder he's won Magician of the Year several times. JW

*headdesk*

Really? Criss Angel? *Really?*

Honestly, I'd rather meet Barry... and this isn't even my fandom. :p

[KJM]

Same for me Suzan, I just made the comment on the back of the query raised at top of this post, i.e. fans would be miffed etc. I have no idea what the reason was for the rescheduling of the two concerts. I do not care if Barry did get paid, his business, not mine.

I appreciate all Barry does for his fan base, and he does a whole lot more than some.

[Suzan]

> My friends stood right in front of him in Vegas and watched him levitate a lady and they swear there was nothing around her to hold her up. They said if they hadn't have seen it with their own eyes, they would have thought there was some kind of camera trickery on the TV show. It's no wonder he's won Magician of the Year several times. JW

I remember feeling that way at a Sigfried and Roy show years ago. I was just blown away. I was most impressed by the elephant disappearing, since elephants clearly can't jump down trap doors! A dear friend who worked for another magician in Vegas just laughed, and said it's surprisingly simple (and no, there were no elephant-sized trap doors involved). Over the years, I've learned how a few of the tricks are performed, and it really takes away the "wow" feeling once you know. So I've learned that I prefer the fun and awe of wondering.

[Suzan]

> Please don't include me in your assumption, Suzan. I was speaking in general terms

Sorry for my misunderstanding.

> I am a firm believer in IF you make a commitment, you have to follow through unless something happens beyond your control. You can't just change your mind because something else comes up you think is a better deal. That's the way I was raised.

I agree!

[Suzan]

BTW, she didn't tell me how the elephant disappeared, just that it didn't involve trap doors, so I'm still impressed by that trick! :)

[Lorrie]

I would think a celebrity would cost more --I am sure manilow is not
the only person who has been paid to sing at a wedding--or appear at
one--why would he do it for free?

[Lorrie]

On Sep 26, 2:40 pm, "shadowma...@gmail.com" <shadowma...@gmail.com>
wrote:

You are right--we do not know--

[Lorrie]

nothing wrong with him getting paid--

[Lorrie]

sometimes things happen--even to manilow--I change my mind all the
time---grant it i am not a celeb---whatever went on as far as the
wedding and concerts
is his business---

[Lorrie]

Criss Angel is awesome--wow your friends saw him do this?? i bet they
were stunned===he does some amazing and sometimes gross things--

[bookworm]

He is an illusionist - his job is to entertain and he does it very, very well. I'd love to know how he walks on water but then he probably levitates to the water level and tht's how he does it. Did you happen to see the episode where he was imitating David Blain? It was hysterical how he was in disguise and looked just like him fooling the people. The CEO of the Luxor said they had $100MILLION invested in Criss and they get very nervous when Criss does these dangerous stunts. And then there was the stunt gone wrong where a nail gun shot out a nail and it went right into Criss' palm. The ambulance took him to the hospital and he was out of commission for several weeks. The Luxor people were not happy but Criss brings in the money. If I ever get to Vegas and he is still there he will be a definite 'go see' on my list! JW

[Lorrie]

No I did not see the episode where he imitated david blain maybe it is
on you tube --did you see when he was "hooked" up to the helicopter?
The nail gun has me interested--maybe that is on you tube? anyway he
is something else--

[Debbie M from MA]

Yeah, I'm a bit late with my comment
about this topic. It's had me baffled
how there could be a connection between
the 2 postponed shows on the 15th &
16th and the wedding on the 22nd.
Since we've already entertained lots
of unfounded speculation, I'll add a
little more! MAYBE ... just maybe ...
there was another performer originally
scheduled to sing at the Woo/McClellan
wedding. If that fell through at the last
minute, Barry might have stepped up to
the plate to fill-in and save the day!
That would explain why he'd need the extra
time ... to meet with them, rehearse, etc.
I suspect that he'd do something like that
for a dear friend, who also could pay him
tons of money!! Hey, he's worth it.

Another thing I'm curious about: When a
performer has to postpone a show with only
a few days notice, what type of fees are
incurred? It seems that there would have been
many expenses for the venue, Ticketmaster,
the promoters. Perhaps he'd still have to pay
performers and crew. And the cost of moving
the stage back out to the east coast in April
when it was already nearby in September. I
guess all of this comes out of Barry's pockets
(through his production company). There may be
tax deductions, but it's still money paid
out that he doesn't get back.

This reinforces, in my mind anyway, that the
decision to postpone a show is never taken lightly.
It must have been the absolute last resort, whatever
the reason.

Thankfully, the new dates were announced rather
quickly. It's still difficult for everybody
who's plans had to be changed. At least everybody
has April to look forward to.

Debbie Martin
Springfield, MA

[thenewl...@gmail.com]

On Monday, September 24, 2012 3:48:08 AM UTC-4, denise....@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, 23 September 2012 21:11:56 UTC+1, shado...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > On Sunday, September 23, 2012 1:05:50 PM UTC-4, NICKY D wrote:
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> When I first saw about Barry singing at this wedding, I wondered if the cancelled shows finally had an explanation. Rotten for the fans to be blown out for a more lucrative performance by Barry, because unless this wedding was arranged at very short notice, surely his schedule could have been better managed. Oh well, not for me to understand the workings of the rich world........

[thenewl...@gmail.com]

> everyone! ;) they wont be getting any "platinums" out of me! i REFUSE to be "clownmilked!"

[Dawn]

I met Barry back in 2009 when I did a Platinum. Doing that once was great, I met some wonderful people, but once was enough for me.

If I had my choice, I'd rather meet Barry when he's not in "performer mode", but just simply Barry.

JMHO

Dawn

[denise....@gmail.com]

Same here, Dawn. When I first heard about the Platinums, something about paying to see someone didn't settle easily with me. I know the funds go towards his charity, but as you say, it would be much more natural to meet the real Barry than BARRY MANILOW the performer. Oh well, guess we can dream! My Dad always thought it would be nice to sit down with our Queen Elizabeth and just ask her what she thought of the way our country was going.

[Brenda M]

When you're paying for a platinum, you're really just paying for a
different kind of show (and a pretty good one, given the excellent
reviews I've read throughout the years.)

I think he reserves his real face for his family and friends, as is
his right.

Brenda

[NICKY D]

Re....

I think he reserves his real face for his family and friends, as is
his right.

Brenda

***Beautifully put Brenda ....agreed***

[denise....@gmail.com]

As it is for us all. We sometimes have to put on a business face but with friends and family we should be able to be ourselves.

[Dawn]

Agreed. I would say that applies to all of us.

Dawn

[Kittenmommy]

On Nov 7, 4:23 pm, Brenda M <bmesku...@aol.com> wrote:

> I think he reserves his real face for his family and friends, as is
> his right.

Absolutely!

And think about it: when people do Platinums, is Barry really getting
the *real* person? Or are they meticulously groomed, well-rehearsed,
etc. etc..

So he's meeting fake fans and they're meeting a fake Barry.

Splendid!

[denise....@gmail.com]

Yes, that had occurred to me too, when I read about how some people even get into debt getting a special outfit and make-up, etc. Oh well, guess it's the way some people want to live. Not sure if I heard right, but thought someone said there is a dress code and you couldn't just turn up in jeans and a T-shirt.

[Brenda M]

You'd think so ... But I'd suggest that's not necessarily true.

Some fans believe they ARE his "family and friends" and act on that...
Which, when you stop and think about it, has to be a little weird for
him. He meets complete strangers who think they're in an emotionally
intimate relationship with him.

Brenda

[marvin]

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I understand Barry getting defensive about some fans thinking they know him in an intimate manner and him being uncomfortable, especially because Barry is more of a private person that others in show business are. But I doubt after all these years on the stage, Barry is surprised any more about anything that fans will do and he knows how to be guarded when he has to be. Marvin

[Totosmom]

On Saturday, November 10, 2012 1:50:22 AM UTC-8, Brenda M wrote:
> On Nov 10, 12:04 am, Kittenmommy <kittenmo...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Nov 7, 4:23 pm, Brenda M <bmesku...@aol.com> wrote: > > > I think he reserves his real face for his family and friends, as is > > his right. > > Absolutely! > > And think about it: when people do Platinums, is Barry really getting > the *real* person?  Or are they meticulously groomed, well-rehearsed, > etc. etc.. > > So he's meeting fake fans and they're meeting a fake Barry. > > Splendid! You'd think so ... But I'd suggest that's not necessarily true. Some fans believe they ARE his "family and friends" and act on that... Which, when you stop and think about it, has to be a little weird for him. He meets complete strangers who think they're in an emotionally intimate relationship with him. Brenda

Then perhaps he should stop feeding their delusions and not call his fans his friends. Let's face it, to some extent he encourages this kind of behaviour. Just a thought.

Bonnie

[marvin]

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I wouldn't blame Barry for calling fans his friends; most performers in show business show much gratitude to their fans and feel a bond with them and express that bond in their performances and appearances. How often have we heard Barry say on stage, "you are all here for one purpose, to love me" but that is something all performers say in one way or another. It is all part of show business and keeping a performing career going. Fans that will get delusional about Barry or any other performer only have themselves to blame. Marvin

[denise....@gmail.com]

I agree with you Totosmum. Barry always says they are not his fans but his friends. I don't see how he can call someone a friend if he doesn't know them in person. It's a bit like people on social media who claim to have hundreds of friends - in reality they are just virtual friends or real people they have never actually met. Not my idea of friendship, to be frank.

[starn...@earthlink.net]

>> Fans that will get delusional about Barry or any other performer only have themselves to blame. Marvin<<

Marvin, that's probably the truest thing you've ever posted>(not to imply you aren't truthful!) People who complain about the fans who live in fantasyland don't realize that these people will do this with ANY performer they fancy. It's just that in this case, they fancy Barry. Clay Aikens, Tom Jones, Justin Bieber...I'm sure I could list 100 performers. They all have fans who are lonely, delusional, or missing something else in their lives and chose a star to fill that void.

Personally, I think the fan does it because by their very stardom, they are out of reach. If the star ever really did give them the type of attention they think they want, they'd probably run the other way. Because the fan doesn't really want an intimate relationship with a real person. Too fraught with danger!

OK. I know, too early for my psuedo psychological rants!
CA Sharon

[marvin]

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Unfortunately Sharon, there are so many loose cannons out there that are delusional that call themselves fans. John Lennon was shot by a so- called fan and actress Rebecca Sheaffer (she starred with Pam Dawber from Mork & Mindy on a 1970s or 80s TV series called "My Sister Sam") was murdered also by a so- called fan. I doubt any performer would do anything consciously to encourage this "anti- social" behavior by "fans" but it would still happen no matter what the performer says or does. Marvin

[Dawn]

One of Jeff Goldblum's "fans" got arrested for attending a play he stars in. She violated the restraining order.

I'm sure you could go to google news and type in stalker fan and get all kinds of stories. This is why the laws have been added/changed regarding people stalking others. You don't have to be a celebrity, either.

Dawn

[Kittenmommy]

On Nov 10, 4:12 am, denise.harpe...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, 10 November 2012 05:04:19 UTC, Kittenmommy  wrote:
> > On Nov 7, 4:23 pm, Brenda M <bmesku...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > I think he reserves his real face for his family and friends, as is
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> > > his right.
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> > Absolutely!
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> > And think about it: when people do Platinums, is Barry really getting
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> > the *real* person?  Or are they meticulously groomed, well-rehearsed,
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> > etc. etc..
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> > So he's meeting fake fans and they're meeting a fake Barry.
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> > Splendid!
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> Yes, that had occurred to me too, when I read about how some people even get into debt getting a special outfit and make-up, etc.  Oh well, guess it's the way some people want to live.

Well, I wouldn't want to look like a slob, you know? But I wouldn't
spend $500 on a dress and a few hundred more on a make-over, either.

> Not sure if I heard right, but thought someone said there is a dress code and you couldn't just turn up in jeans and a T-shirt.

Wouldn't surprise me.

[Kittenmommy]

That would be soooo weird! D:

[Kittenmommy]

Well, I have lots of friends (and acquaintances) I've met online.
It's possible to develop true friendships that way... but I don't
think I'd call Barry's Facebook friends his true friends. He doesn't
interact with them the way a friend would.

Am I making sense? Sometimes it's hard to tell! :p