Censorship on MMN

[denise....@gmail.com]

New post today on My Manilow Network which has upset lots of fans:



Manilow on Broadway...Spoiler reviews and photos

Posted by My Manilow Network on January 21, 2013 at 11:52am in Show Reviews
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We know it's exciting and appreciate the great feedback about the shows. But, the detailed reports of songs and outfits is a spoiler for so many who have yet to see the show.

As a courtesy to Barry, all involved in the production and for those yet to attend the show we have taken down any posts. Sorry to those of you that posted and thanks for the amazing comments.

Thanks

Manilow.com

[KJM]

Good grief, someone had a brain fart and some.

Why this now? Reviews have been around for ages.

Not rocket science, all that needed to happen was in the heading, warning that topic was review of what show, people can then choose to read or not.

There is no consistency in the messages that are coming out of camp Manilow, example, there is a video up on FB of Barry singing WINE, well it was there this morning.

So many of us cannot get to NY to see the show, its nice to read the reviews, see the wonderful photographs, and just feel a little bit part of it. Dana's reviews particularly I like to read. I am glad I got to see Dana's reviews before they were yanked, I feel for her, she and others put so much effort into them.

Sorry but this is a very bad decision, and one I hope is reversed quick sharp.

To quote Barry himself 'be nice'!!!

[KJM]

PS. For anyone who wants to read a review, Dana's are on the BarryNet in their entirety, for now. Like I say, mixed messages!

[Brenda M]

The MMN belongs to Barry's organization.... They can do whatever they
want with it. They don't have to be fair.

And it will be a cold day in hell before any of Dana's posts ever get
pulled.

Brenda

[KJM]

Sorry Brenda, you lost me, not sure what you mean? Agree yes they can do what they like, as is their right, so is it ours to say we don't agree with it.

[Brenda M]

I meant ... They don't have to be fair. The MMN is not a democracy.
Your previous posts suggested you expected fairness...at least that's
how I read you. And yes, of course you're entitled to express your
opinion. That's what makes this forum superior. :-)

As for not being nice, I disagree. I think their note explaining why
they wanted to discourage those posts was extremely polite.

I don't think my Dana comment requires clarification, but here it
is ...Barry is a fan of her writing. He has told her that. So of
course they're not going to touch her posts.

Hope that clears up any confusion I might have caused.

Brenda

[KJM]

Thanks Brenda, understand now, so difficult to read things on the internet as they were meant sometimes.

Let me clarify also, no was not thinking along the lines of fairness, not at all, I just feel they are so damn inconsistent in the messages they give out, and the infantile way they go about things.

And on this occasion I did feel for Dana, Lana, Maria et al, all who had taken the time to write those reviews up for peeps.

At least here, one can have a opinion and chat without risk of being treated like a child, and it removed, when what may be said does not suit.

Hope your doing OK Brenda?

[KJM]

PS. You could not make this up, now the posts of people disagreeing with the decision to remove reviews, have been pulled. Being generous, hoping that is because commonsense has prevailed, and they will reinstate the reviews. Best I do not hold my breath. Sigh.

[Brenda M]

You're kind to inquire ... Yes, thank you, I'm doing okay. Of course
I miss my mom, but I stay busy so it won't hurt too much.

Life goes on. :-)

And it's nice to have some extra time to spend on the Internet this
morning. I'm totally snowed in, so why not?

Now if I can just dive back into my blog, I'll feel like myself again.

Cheers!

Brenda

[denise....@gmail.com]

I just went back for a look and saw the whole discussion has disappeared. Someone has put a blog about it so I wonder how long that will also stay, now the original message has been pulled. What a way to run a web-site........

[JAZZ4JEFF]

Amazing!. Everyone has to understand and embrace the digital age. When you go to a concert now, you see hundreds of people with cell phones video taping and taking pictures. You can't escape from it.

This google board used to be much more active with Manilow posts. Maybe with the censorship on the official Manilow board, more people will return here.

[bookworm]

This is typical of them and not surprising at all. They should look at it the opposite way and think with all these reviews, it will make people WANT TO go who were just thinking about it. The excitement builds with these reviews, etc.

If I wasn't so far away from NY, thinking of all the added expenses outside of the ticket price, I would go just to hear Barry sing songs from Harmony. It helps to confirm the play will be out sometime this year if all goes well (Barry commented sometime around September). I doubt Barry would be singing any of the songs from it if it wasn't in the works to finally get it up and running.

Dana is another story. She is way too much for me with every hickup, scratch and burp that happens but it's no secret she is favored for her long-winded posts. IF they are going to pull other posts about the shows then they should pull hers too. It's that simple but she spends tremendous amounts of money to follow him everywhere like a lost puppy so they might be taking that into consideration. I agree with Brenda...she's 'daddy's girl' so to speak.

We've spent years trying to figure out how the bmifc thinks and what their reasoning is on things but it's no use. They do whatever they want to do and don't give a damn how it will affect the very people who pay their salaries. If it wasn't for the Barry followers, they wouldn't have jobs. There is NO rhyme or reason to their latest post as people have been posting about the shows for ages. Makes no sense at all although there were some blocked from posting about the shows on the BARRYnet while Barry was in Vegas yet others were allowed to post with no problem so go figure. It's a major "$%#@*^&$*$*" as Clint Eastwood says in 'Heartbreak Ridge'. Is there anyone else who agrees with me? JW

[KJM]

For the most part JW, yes I agree with you. I however, have not spent years trying to fathom out the BMIFC, I got that, and the MMN sussed within a week last year, hence why I am posting here.

One day soon, someone will remember, don't bite the hand that feeds ya!!!

PS.

[HD]

> Amazing!. Everyone has to understand and embrace the digital age. When you go to a concert now, you see hundreds of people with cell phones video taping and taking pictures. You can't escape from it.
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> This google board used to be much more active with Manilow posts. Maybe with the censorship on the official Manilow board, more people will return here.

It’s their private website and message board and they can allow whatever they want on it. However, saying that it’s a "spoiler" is a bit silly. People have a choice as to whether to read it much like movie or book reviews. Plus, what is being spoiled anyway? This site is for fans who know Barry's songs, sound and style – I doubt if Barry’s re-inventing himself or voice for this show.
The fact is that anyone can go and post a review about the show online. A reporter can quietly attend and then write & publish his/her perspective which might be more "objective" than that of an enthusiastic fan. Team Barry is just encouraging people to go to other sources for this type of information rather than being "The Source."
... I can understand deleting photos, if cameras are not allowed in the theatre. However, there is at least one fan photo from this Broadway show that is posted on his Facebook page.

Note: I have no idea what was posted or removed from that website. I am more interested in what might be printed in a legitimate publication anyway.

[tal...@bellsouth.net]

I can only speak for myself, but I like seeing setlists ahead of time. I really expected a major overhaul of the shows from the past year, but with a couple of exceptions, it looks like most of the same old stuff. Makes me rethink my plans to attend the Atlanta show (if they ever put the tickets on sale).

[Suzan]

> Dana is another story. ..<snip> IF they are going to pull other posts about the shows then they should pull hers too.

Dana's posts were deleted right along with everyone else's reviews on the Ning. She wasn't treated any differently, whether TPTB enjoyed her review or not.

And now, even the message about reviews being deleted is...well, deleted. :P

Personally, I enjoyed reading all the reviews, from Dana and from several others. I'm glad I read them before they disappeared.

Suzan

[denise....@gmail.com]

The blog post has now also gone.......along with a lot of fans, I wouldn't wonder.

[Brenda M]

Poor Barry ... He must be under a lot of stress if he seemingly cares
so much about so little. I'll bet he's throwing every last piece of
himself into these performances (and then digging down for even more
every night).

God bless him. It's a wonder, truly, that he can keep doing this.

And I take back what I said about not wanting to see the show. If he
were to perform the same set list from now until the end of time, I'd
still welcome the chance to see him one more time...because when he
ends, a lot more ends with him. I have the sick feeling we won't fully
know what we've lost until that spotlight's gone forever.

So ... If you're lucky enough to see him one more time, forget the
review. Just relish being with him ...for the rest of us who
aren't. :-)

Peace out ...

Brenda

[bookworm]

Hi Suzan,

I was talking about her show reviews still being posted on the BARRYNET as of a few minutes ago. If they are pulling posts off MMN then I feel they should be pulling them from everywhere. The BARRYnet is also an official Manilow web page.

I have no problem with Dana's posts other than the fact she goes on and on and one - her pictures are great! - but I've always been one for fairness and if deleting posts pertaining to the shows is good for one place it should be done for all of them. jmho JW

[NICKY D]

Brenda ,

"I'd still welcome the chance to see him one more time...because when he ends, a lot more ends with him. I have the sick feeling we won't fully know what we've lost until that spotlight's gone ".....So ... If you're lucky enough to see him one more time, forget the review. Just relish being with him ..

How very true !! When he stated in his Daily Mail interview that he had no plans to visit the Uk this year , that made my mind up !! I am hoping to see him on Broadway...-all being well -...and will cherish every moment !!
God Bless him - he has given us so many wonderful memories ! We take him for granted sometimes ....assuming he will always be there !
As you rightly state Brenda , we never quite appreciate what we've got until its gone ..... Wishing him back to good health asap and heres to many more treats in 2013 !

Nicky

[Dawn]

If I understand correctly, there is someone who is the "officially sanctioned" person to post tweets & photos of the show. People should post them on blogs and remind Garry this is not Iran, Russia or anywhere else where competition is not welcome.

[shado...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 7:41:54 PM UTC-5, Dawn wrote:
> If I understand correctly, there is someone who is the "officially sanctioned" person to post tweets & photos of the show. People should post them on blogs and remind Garry this is not Iran, Russia or anywhere else where competition is not welcome.

Until Dana leaves her real job and gets hired by Barry
as Barry's offical reporter and concert photographer. She
needs to get a life along side her Barry Manilow life.
Also when did MMN becaome Manilow.Com? MMN is a sorry
excuse for a social network site. When a few years ago
decent fans were getting kicked off left and right for
their opinoins. Other MMN member were reporting those
fans to the network administrator. That how those fans
were getting kicked off.
Linda

[beanz]

I remember when MMN was called a "community". They took that off when they closed up everything and then started calling it something else but I forgot what it is called now. I think where fan's meet or something, something. Whatever.

Well what can I say about the posts being lifted. Now the people whose posts got lifted now know how it feels the rath of being shunned by TPTB. All that $$ they spend doesn't equal more power to what they have to say/post about Manilow. Eventually what comes around goes around. Maybe people wrote little notes to TPTB they didn't really like the review competition what was going on. Second best to what the Manilow PTB really wants to post, which just might be real reviews by others more important like maybe the New York Times, other papers/reviewers that are more noteworthy? Personally, I don't think they are all that more important but I'm sure Barry would think so. ;O)

Really what I took issue is that it was done on of all days Martin Luther King Jr. day (let freedom reign) and the President Obama's inauguration day (we the people ....) (freedom of speech, but not enough freedon to place a thread about a Manilow show, on a site that is hidden to the public now anyway).

I suppose if these fans keep posting their dismay about the posts being pulled and then have the nerve to repost their dismay, my guess is they will probably get kicked off too for having the nerve to go against TPTB. Oh my!

[denise....@gmail.com]

Now who is going to say it's karma that Barry is now ill so no shows are going on?! Poor bloke always seems to get ill in January.

[meshuga]

On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 11:09:44 PM UTC-5, shado...@gmail.com wrote:
Until Dana leaves her real job and gets hired by Barry as Barry's offical reporter and concert photographer. She needs to get a life along side her Barry Manilow life.

Looks to me like Dana has a life that she enjoys very much. And she's kind enough to share her passion for Barry with other fans - many of whom do not get to see Barry in concert very often - via her show reviews, stories and photos. Doesn't look to me that she has to change a thing.

Amy

[starn...@earthlink.net]

I can't believe people still give a rats patooty about MMN. Or the Barrynet. Oh well, I suppose some people grow up, and some people don't.

[kcla...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:18:46 AM UTC-5, starn...@earthlink.net wrote:
> I can't believe people still give a rats patooty about MMN. Or the Barrynet. Oh well, I suppose some people grow up, and some people don't.

I really love the idea of the Manilow Network, its like Facebook for Manilow fans, but it seems that if you say one negative thing about Barry or his camp, you'll get 95 comments from die-hards screaming that you're disrespecting the great and powerful Barry Manilow along with a slew of "how dare you"s. In my experience I've had more problems with the "fans" than with the administration.

I still have my profile on Ning, but I rarely, if ever, go on anymore, I'm not a fan of getting yelled at for putting my two cents in...though I do get great enjoyment from seeing how incensed so many people get over a only slightly negative comment or a different way of thinking.

Personally, I think it's pulling fans away from the fandom and causing a loss in Manilow fans, after I've been blasted several times I pulled away from Barry, becoming almost offended by him because of how his "fans" treated me. I'm sure I'm not the only who has felt this way.

I understand why TPTB have taken down the reviews and such, but to me fans writing these glowing reviews would be more of a selling point than a deterrent. If I read a fantastic review, it would make me want to go see him live even more! But that's just me.

-Kristen

[Brenda M]

I don't think Manilow's people mind it when a fan tries to write an
actual "review" as much as when a fan gives a blow-by-blow account of
the show.

There is a difference. Too bad some fans don't get that.
And this isn't new. Back in the pre-Internet days, I can remember
some fans being asked to not give away the whole show in their fan
club newsletters.


Brenda

[denise....@gmail.com]

I'm with you Kristen. I am not one of those gushy "Barry is God" type of fans, so to most of the people on the fan-sites, I am not a "true fan", as they have said to me. I dip in more to see the comments and fights rather than read all about Barry. I did comment once that I use it as a people-study so got blasted for that as well. Life is fun in Manilow-land, isn't it?!

[denise....@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, 23 January 2013 21:57:12 UTC, kcla...@gmail.com wrote:

Me too Kristen. I have sometimes ventured to say that something is not 100% perfect about Barry or some of his music and have been told that I'm not a true fan otherwise I would think he was God. I find it quite amusing as a study in people's behaviour, which is my main reason for dipping into the MMN from time to time.

[marvin]

On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 4:57:12 PM UTC-5, kcla...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:18:46 AM UTC-5, starn...@earthlink.net wrote:
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Marvin: I think the censorship is probably common for all the websites that are sponsored by artists and their management companies. If you want to go to a place in which you would be free to express yourself without censorship, try a website or social media group for the artist that is not affiliated or sponsored by the artist or his management, as is the case with our group here.

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-Kristen

The press has also been advised not to write reviews until the official opening night. Even if fans that saw the "preview" concerts may have thought that Barry was in top form, Barry is a perfectionist and likely feels that opening night will be better than the prior shows in this run. It is highly unlikely that when Barry returns to do his one night shows in different cities, that the policy of when to and when not to write reviews will be as strict as it is now. Perhaps if the run of Broadway shows will be as high a standard as Barry expects them to be, then maybe he will be offered a lucrative contract somewhere else, so there is great incentive for Barry to have very positive reviews from the critics. Marvin

[marvin]

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I am not sure what an objective review is anymore, especially after reading how bloggers write, sometimes writing more comments on themselves than the artist they are reviewing. When I write a music review, the only thing that is really important is if the size of the audience is still the same from the beginning to the end of the concert and if the artist gets people to stand up and cheer for him/her for most of the songs. Barry is obviously a well-known artist, so I highly doubt that people who don't care for his music would go to his concerts. Unless I see many people leaving the concert early, or groaning after hearing a song, it is unlikely that I would write an unfavorable review of Barry's music or that of any artist. Marvin

[denise....@gmail.com]

Sorry for the 2 similar posts. I didn't think the first one had gone so wrote more or less the same thing again.

[bookworm]

On Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:59:14 PM UTC-7, marvin wrote:
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> I am not sure what an objective review is anymore, especially after reading how bloggers write, sometimes writing more comments on themselves than the artist they are reviewing. When I write a music review, the only thing that is really important is if the size of the audience is still the same from the beginning to the end of the concert and if the artist gets people to stand up and cheer for him/her for most of the songs. Barry is obviously a well-known artist, so I highly doubt that people who don't care for his music would go to his concerts. Unless I see many people leaving the concert early, or groaning after hearing a song, it is unlikely that I would write an unfavorable review of Barry's music or that of any artist. Marvin

Marvin, it simply means someone who doesn't look at Barry through rose colored glasses and have him on a pedestal. Someone who can give a decent review with their feet planted firmly on the ground. And if something is amiss, they will say so and give their honest opinion. Barry has already said he wants people to be honest with him. JW

[Suzan]

> Having said this, I see Danda's reviews are STILL up on the BARRYnet today. Why does she get preferential treatment?

Dana's reviews have been gone from the Barrynet for several days now. Only the comments remain.

I've seen no evidence of preferential treatment or favoritism. Her reviews disappeared right along with everyone else's.

[bookworm]

My apologies, Suzan. I could swear it was still there yesterday. I'm glad her posts are gone so others aren't offended that theirs were pulled but hers wasn't. JW

[Suzan]

> My apologies, Suzan. I could swear it was still there yesterday. I'm glad her posts are gone so others aren't offended that theirs were pulled but hers wasn't. JW

Well, it's a little confusing, since the comments still remain, so it would be easy to think the original posts also remained. I imagine finding and removing all the comments and related posts might be difficult.

[mobr...@sbcglobal.net]

My first thought was that the PTB doesn't want fans/civilians to know the NYC show is so similar to previous year's shows. Last year's "it's not a tour tour" was almost identical to the Vegas shows. It appears from what I've read, this show is very similar to it. There once was a day when I had the disposable income and would make the effort to catch at least one show in the "new" production run. However, less time and fewer free funds cause me to be much more discerning. If I feel the show isn't offering much in the way of new, exciting material, I don't spend the money or time to go.

I agree with those who believe the choice to pull the reviews is misguided. The best advertisement is to have people talking about your product (unless they are saying it's the same old same old).

[mobr...@sbcglobal.net]

I don't know? I mainly just enjoy reading other people's post and I never posted anything on that site except a reply to a greeting from a friend that was "Hey, glad to see you here and hope you are well." I got kicked off. I have no idea what their criteria was for cleaning house. I asked a couple of times to be reinstated but never got a reply. I finally decided "Meh! Who needs it?" I'm sure they need fans more than any of us need them.
Trigger

[mobr...@sbcglobal.net]

I felt the wrath. After being a fan all these years and being kicked off for nothing, yes, it did bother me. But, hey, they cut the purse strings to my wallet too when they did that.

[Maria Mikol]

Would I like him ro sing all the "b" sides and original songs? Of course. But, the fact is, and Barry has said it himself, the people want the hits. He is very right. The general public wants the hits- and Barry's show delivers.

For me, the show is not about the content, it is about the man. I absolutely adore him and he could sit on that stage and recite the phone book (a few of us have said this before) and I'd be happy.

For me, the concert experience is seeing old friends and being in the same room with a man I have loved since I was 12. I'll take every opportunity I can get to have that opportunity.

Maria

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[kcla...@gmail.com]

I'm a big fan of the study of human behavior, so watching the fights over a man that is completely unattainable for 99.9999% of these women is incredibly entertaining. If I was Barry, I would be censoring or having staffers intervene on the hate comments and fan-on-fan attacks before compliments.

-Kristen

[kcla...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:31:58 AM UTC-5, mobr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> My first thought was that the PTB doesn't want fans/civilians to know the NYC show is so similar to previous year's shows. Last year's "it's not a tour tour" was almost identical to the Vegas shows. It appears from what I've read, this show is very similar to it. There once was a day when I had the disposable income and would make the effort to catch at least one show in the "new" production run. However, less time and fewer free funds cause me to be much more discerning. If I feel the show isn't offering much in the way of new, exciting material, I don't spend the money or time to go.
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I'm with you I'm a poor college student! I've seen Barry twice (the last time was when he was at Radio City last year) and as great of a show as it was, it was the same exact show I had seen 6 years prior in Atlantic City (after the first hip surgery). I understand he has an obligation to play the hits (which I love), but the same set up and same stories is really disappointing. Barry has so much talent and is such an incredible showman, I don't get why he can't update the show, even a little bit!

I was so excited to hear a song off "15 Minutes" and he didn't even mention the album, I actually cried a little at the end of the show when he didn't play it. I was so excited to hear "Bring on Tomorrow" live and nothing, not even a hint. Oh well...still disappointed about that...

Off my sad little soap box now.
-Kristen

[Brenda M]

On Jan 28, 10:55 pm, kclade...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:31:58 AM UTC-5, mobr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> > My first thought was that the PTB doesn't want fans/civilians to know the NYC show is so similar to previous year's shows. Last year's "it's not a tour tour" was almost identical to the Vegas shows. It appears from what I've read, this show is very similar to it. There once was a day when I had the disposable income and would make the effort to catch at least one show in the "new" production run. However, less time and fewer free funds cause me to be much more discerning. If I feel the show isn't  offering much in the way of new, exciting material, I don't spend the money or time to go.
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> > I agree with those who believe the choice to pull the reviews is misguided. The best advertisement is to have people talking about your product (unless they are saying it's the same old same old).
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> I'm with you I'm a poor college student! I've seen Barry twice (the last time was when he was at Radio City last year) and as great of a show as it was, it was the same exact show I had seen 6 years prior in Atlantic City (after the first hip surgery).  I understand he has an obligation to play the hits (which I love), but the same set up and same stories is really disappointing.  Barry has so much talent and is such an incredible showman, I don't get why he can't update the show, even a little bit!
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Maybe because he's about to turn 70 this year and he's just tired?

It is a mammoth amount of work to make the kind of changes I think a
lot of us got used to in the old days.
But he's not young anymore.

Maybe fans could just cut him a break and go to the show with the
mindset that they're lucky to get to see Barry one more time, like
Maria said.

> I was so excited to hear a song off "15 Minutes" and he didn't even mention the album, I actually cried a little at the end of the show when he didn't play it. I was so excited to hear "Bring on Tomorrow" live and nothing, not even a hint.  Oh well...still disappointed about that...
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> Off my sad little soap box now.
> -Kristen

I know ... It's a brilliant album. But the public wants the hits.

Me ... I'd just be thrilled if he dropped that stupid cover song
(Can't Take My Eyes Off of You) from the act. With all of his own
hits that he can't or won't include in the show, i think it's almost
blasphemous for him to include anything that wasn't originally his.

I mean, is there really one civilian in that audience who came to that
show hoping he'd sing a song somebody else made famous? It's
ridiculous.

Brenda

[Maria Mikol]

I have a few FB friends who are going to a show based solely on knowing I am a huge fan and they like him but have never seen him. Will they be disappointed? Nope. They are going to get a show they came for- the hits.

Really, why should he switch it up? The house is always full and people are on their feet cheering. He has a winning show. You don't mess with a success.

I have seen Elton John twice. First time - all the hits and some cuts off a new album. Loved the show. Would I have known if that show was the same one he did 6 years ago? Nope. It was fresh to me.

Loved that show so much, I went to a show on the next tour. Apparently it was his pissy tour and he vowed not to sing the hits. He didn't. Je had an electric piano and I can't tell you what he sang. I can say, I hated the show. I would have been perfectly satisfied to see the same show I had seen before because I am a casual fan and only know the hits.

We are spoiled because Barry has so many great songs and once in a while he'll pull out a gem and it will make the entire show worth it.

But, like I've said (and Brenda too) it's just great to see and enjoy Barry. Content is second for me.