Thread 31.

[John F. Winston]

Dear Folks: I hereby start Thread 31. Everyone please
join in.
John Winston.

[John F. Winston]

Subject: More Past Lives Of St. Germain. Feb. 23, 2001.

The second time that I had the privilege of meeting the lady
who had an angel on her TV on "Harmonic Convergence Day" in Mt.
Shasta City, she told me the following statement: "The best story
that I've ever heard about St. Germain is that one day a person saw
St. Germain and Je--s walking down St. Germain Blvd. together
near the I AM Center in Mt. Shasta City.
This lady later left the town of Mt. Shasta City and went to
another town.
I later talked with a lady who operated a Motel on Mt. Shasta
Blvd. who said that she was proud of the fact that she and her
friends had made it so hard of the lady who had the the angel on
the T.V. that they ran the lady out of town.

....

I found this information lurking on my C-drive. It is from the
following web site:

http://www.tsl.org/masters/sg.html

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Samuel the Prophet

Returning to the scene of the karma of his people as Samuel, prophet
of the LORD and judge of the twelve tribes of Israel (c. 1050 B.C.),
Saint Germain was the messenger of G-d's liberation of the seed of
Abraham from bondage to the corrupt priests, and from the Philistines
by whom they had been defeated. Bearing in his heart the special sign
of the blue rose of Sirius, Samuel delivered to the recalcitrant
Israelites a prophecy parallel to his twentieth-century discourses
both inextricably link with Go-'s covenants concerning karma, free
will and grace:
"If ye do return unto the LORD with all your hearts, then put away
the strange -ods and Ashtaroth from among you, and prepare your hearts
unto the LORD and serve him only: and he will deliver you out of the
hand of the Philistines." Later, when King Saul disobeyed G-d, Samuel
freed the people from his tyranny by anointing David king.
True to the thread of prophecy that runs throughout his lifetimes,
Saint Germain was Saint Joseph of the lineage of King David, son of
Jesse, chosen vessel of the Holy Ghost, father of Je--s in fulfillment
of the word of the LORD to Isaiah--"There shall come forth a rod out
of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots...."
We see, then, in each of Saint Germain's embodiments that there is
present the quality of alchemy--a conveyance of Go-ly power. So
ordained the instrument of the LORD, Samuel transferred His sacred
fire in the anointing of David and just as scientifically withdrew it
from King Saul when the LORD rejected him from being king over Israel.
This unmistakable sign of the Seventh Ray adept, often in humble garb,
was also present as the Holy Spirit's power of the conversion of souls
and the control of natural forces in his life as the third-century
Saint Alban, first martyr of the British Isles.

Alban, Roman Soldier

A Roman soldier, Alban hid a fugitive priest, was converted by
him, then sentenced to death for disguising himself as the priest and
allowing him to escape. A great multitude gathered to witness his
execution--too many to pass over the narrow bridge that must be
crossed. Alban prayed and the river parted--whereupon his executioner,
being converted, begged to die in Alban's place. His request was
denied and he was beheaded that day alongside the saint.

Master Teacher of the Neoplatonists

But Saint Germain was not always to be counted in the ranks of the
Ch-rch. He fought tyranny wherever he found it, including in false
Chr-stian doctrine. As the Master Teacher behind the Neoplatonists,
Saint Germain was the inner inspiration of the Greek philosopher
Proclus (c. A. D. 410-485).
He revealed his pupil's previous life as a Pythagorean philosopher,
also showing Proclus the sham of Constantine's C-ristianity and the
worth of the path of individualism (leading to the individualization
of the Go- flame) which Chr-stians called "paganism."
As the highly honored head of Plato's Academy at Athens, Proclus
based his philosophy upon the principle that there is only one true
reality--the "One," which is Go-, or the -odhead, the final goal of
all life's efforts. The philosopher said, "Beyond all bodies is the
essence of soul, and beyond all souls the intellectual nature, and
beyond all intellectual existences the One." Throughout his
incarnations Saint Germain demonstrated tremendous breadth of
knowledge in the Mind of -o-; not surprising was the range of his
pupil's awareness. His writings extended to almost every department of
learning.
Proclus acknowledged that his enlightenment and philosophy came
from above--indeed he believed himself to be one through whom divine
revelation reached mankind. "He did not appear to be without divine
inspiration, his disciple Marinus wrote, "for he produced from his
wise mouth words similar to the most thick-falling snow; so that his
eyes emitted a bright radiance, and the rest of his countenance
participated of divine illumination."
Thus Saint Germain, white-robed, jeweled slippers and belt emitting
star-fire from far-off worlds, was the mystery Master smiling just
beyond the veil--mirroring the imagings of his mind in the soul of the
last of the great Neoplatonic philosophers.
Saint Germain was Merlin. The unforgettable, somehow irretrievable
figure who haunts the mists of England, about to step forth at any
moment to offer us a goblet of sparkling elixir. He the 'old man' who
knows the secrets of youth and alchemy, who charted the stars at
Stonehenge, and moved a stone or two, so they say, by his magical
powers--who would astonish no one if he suddenly appeared on a
Broadway stage or in the forests of the Yellowstone or at one's side
on any highway anywhere.

For Saint Germain is Merlin.

Enter Merlin January 1. 1987, with his final prophecy to heroes,
knights, ladies, crazies, and villains of the Aquarian Camelot.
Merlin, dear Merlin, has never left us--his spirit charms the
ages, makes us feel as rare and unique as his diamond and amethyst
adornments. Merlin is the irreplaceable Presence, a humming vortex
about whose science and legends and fatal romance Western civilization
has entwined itself.
It was the fifth century. Midst the chaos left by the slow death
of the Roman Empire, a king arose to unite a land splintered by
warring chieftains and riven by Saxon invaders. At his side was the
old man himself--half Druid priest, half Chri-tian saint-seer,
magician, counselor, friend, who led the king through twelve battles
to unite a kingdom and establish a window of peace.
At some point, the spirit of Merlin went through a catharsis. The
scene was one of fierce battle, the legend says. As he witnessed the
carnage, a madness came upon him--of seeing all at once past/present
and future--so peculiar to the lineage of the prophets. He fled to the
forest to live as a wild man, and one day as he sat under a tree, he
began to utter prophecies concerning the future of Wales.
"I was taken out of my true self," he said. "I was as a sp-rit and
knew the history of people long past and could foretell the future. I
knew then the secrets of nature, bird flight, star wanderings and the
way fish glide." Both his prophetic utterances and his "magical"
powers served one end: the making of a united kingdom of the tribes of
the old Britons. His pervasiveness is recalled in an early Celtic name
for Britain, "Clas Myrddin," which means "Merlin's Enclosure."
By advising and assisting Arthur in establishing his kingship,
Merlin sought to make of Britain a fortress against ignorance and
superstition where Christ achievement could flower and devotion to the
One could prosper in the quest for the Holy Grail. His efforts on this
soil were to bear fruit in the nineteenth century as the British Isles
became the place where individual initiative and industry could thrive
as never before in twelve thousand years.
But even as Camelot, the rose of England, budded and bloomed,
nightshade was twining about its roots. Witchcraft, intrigue and
treachery destroyed Camelot, not the love of Launcelot and Guinevere
as Tom Malory's misogynistic depiction suggests. Alas, the myth he
sowed has obscured the real culprits these long centuries.
'Twas the king's ba-tard son Modred by his half sister Margawse
who with Morgana le Fay and a circle of like sorceresses and black
knights, set out to steal the crown, imprison the queen, and destroy
for a time the bonds of a Love that such as these (of the left-handed
path) had never known nor could --a Reality all of their willing,
warring and enchantments could not touch.
Thus it was with a heavy heart and the spirit of a prophet who has
seen visions of tragedy and desolation, fleeting joys and the piercing
anguish of karmic retribution endlessly outplayed, that Merlin entered
the scene of his own denouement, to be tied up in spells of his own
telling by silly, cunning Vivien--and sleep. Aye, to err is human but
to pine for the twin flame that is not there is the lot of many an
errant knight or king or lonely prophet who perhaps should have
disappeared into the mists rather than suffer sad ignominy for his
people.

JW Of course some people who don't believe that the angel was
actually seen on TV will tell you that a TV technicians stuck his
head inside the door of her home and said that he could make the
sceen of the TV roll just her's was doing. That is true but between
the times it was rolling you could see a picture of a robed perons.
To me it looked like I would think Je--s would look. To the person
by me it looked like Krishna. I later checked with Sister Thredra
and she said it to her it looked like Sananda.
This was all done with no antenna attached to the set.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Something That Will Manifest Gold. Feb. 24, 2001.

Here is something that I may check out for myself. It would be
good if I could accomplish this.

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From: D
Subject: Solar
meditation Manifests Gold
From: U
Dear D
I met you at the Open Secret bookstore in San Rafael and promised you
the meditation which I talked to you about which manifested gold
particles on the porch of my house on several occasions when I shared
the meditation with others. I am actually going to attend your
Intensive near Ashville in March and I am looking forward to it. We
can discuss further then! Since the appearance of gold more has
manifested, I will show you in person.
I have created several versions of this meditation, the following
being the basic one. I am aware of the solar event this weekend and
I will be with you in spirit.
Solar blessings to you, the group, the earth and all mankind!
U

Activating the divine fire and pillar of sacred flames
a guided meditation by U

Sit in a comfortable position with your eyes closed and take a few
deep breaths.
Visualize in the center of your forehead a bright golden god flame
letter, a symbol for the spark of G-d, as if written on your forehead.
Breathe into the -od-flame, energizing it with prana from the air.
On your next inhale move the flame into the pineal gland at the
center of your brain. Visualize your pineal gland light up in pale
gold and with your next exhale move the flame down the central body
current into the center of the earth.
Breathe into the flame again energizing it with prana from the air
until a ring of flames forms around the center flame like a horizontal
disk with a flaming outer circle. As you continue to breathe into
the center flame, the outer ring expands until it grows out into the
atmosphere around the earth.
Visualize the horizontal disk like a pulsing soft web of gold light
permeating the horizontal plane of the earth and then bring your focus
back to the center flame.
With your next inhale bring the flame up from the center of the earth
through your grounding cord to a position 6 inches below your feet,
the position of the 12th chakra.
Again breathe into the flame until it is 6 inches thick. With your
next inhale move the flame through the central body current into the
heart chakra. As you breathe into the flame visualize the flame
becoming the three fold heart flame with different hues of pink,
violet and blue or whatever color you are being shown. Feel the fire
from the heart flames permeating all body cells and opening the
energy channels from the heart to your hands and out your palm.
Place your attention back to the golden center flame in the heart
and with your next inhale move the flame up beyond the crown chakra,
through the chakras above the head: the 10th chakra 6" above the head,
the 11th chakra 18" above the head and the 14th chakra 36" above
the head. Continue moving the flame up through the portal of the
sun then through the Great Central Sun and out of the time matrix
into the limitless light of Go- as non-dual awareness. Bathe in
this light and then return the flame through the Great Central Sun,
the sun, then through the central body current to a position 12"
beneath your feet. Feel how the flame has increased in intensity
by having united with the limitless light from beyond the time matrix.
Breathe into this flame and visualize a ring of flames radiating
outward into a circle until it is 6 feet in diameter forming a
platform of flames. Breathe into the platform and feel the connection
with the huge horizontal disk in the center of the earth. As the
platform cannot hold more intensity, the disk suddenly pops and
expands into an oscillating pillar of golden flames, extending about
18" beyond your body, reaching to the 14th chakra 36" above the head
or even higher, as high as you are being shown. This may be to the
Great Central Sun and beyond. Feel all the cells in your body
absorbing the gold light of the flames, all the way into the DNA of
the cells.
This pillar is a protective shield in your daily life and it's
effectiveness is the raising of your vibration by the use of this
meditation. You may stop the meditation here or continue:
Addition no.1: Continue with this meditation if you are guided to
do so: Now place your attention at about 67 feet above your head
and say silently the following first command: Mother, Father G-d,
I command the clearing of my 12 tree-of-life grid, transmuting
all distortions from my original blueprint and dissolving
polarities into the Oneness of consciousness as love.
Watch your tree-of-life grid being cleared and silently say: Thank
you, it is done, it is done, it is done.
Go up again to 67 feet above your head and say the second command:
Mother Father -od, I command the clearing of the planetary
tree-of-life grid through my grid as much as it is to the highest
good of all at this time. Watch the planetary grid being cleared.
Then say: Thank you, it is done, it is done, it is done.
Go up a third time to 67 feet and say silently: Mother Father -o-,
I command my tree-of-life grid to be infused by the cosmic grid
from the unmanifest realms, restoring my grids and DNA into the
perfected image of the Admon Kadmon. Watch your grid changing again.
You will see whatever your higher Self shows you at the time. Then
say again: Thank you it is done, it is done, it is done.
Addition no.2: Continue as guided:
Visualize yourself standing behind yourself. Look at your back
in the heart area and ask your Higher Self to show you where the
opening to the Sacred Heart is. The Sacred Heart is usually a
little lower than the heart chakra although the location varies
with different people. See an opening at your spine and enter
there. You will find yourself in a silent place, much like a sacred
temple. This is the place of transcending all dimensions. Feel the
eternal peace within you and feel the connection to the place of
limitless light outside the time matrix. This place is in reality
within you. Stay in this space for as long as you wish and then
come out of meditation.
Ursula's website is www.sacredtransformation.com

JW I feel I'm going to have to study that site in more detail to
actually know how to manifest the gold.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Good News From Spain. Feb. 26, 2001.

Here is some news from an Internet friend of mine who has moved
to Spain. Part of the material is channels, so be careful.

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From: c
Subject: Cmdr D - Checking in from Espagne....
Hello everyone.... And after receiving the following --
C, I haven't heard any more about how things are going in Spain. It's
time for an update for us fans! --and other emails like it, I guess
it must be time for a report.....
I have settled in here in Spain, and am quite content here. Life
is slower and simpler, but no less busy, in fact I'm busier than I
was in the states. I'm learning more and more Spanish every day,
and am communicating and understanding pretty well, without any formal
training or lessons.
The winter here is not that cold, just brisk, which I like. My
kitty-kat, Miss Muffett just recently arrived. Quite a journey for
her, over the seas, par avion. It's great to have her back, and have
some furry cuddles with her again. And I just want everyone to know,
that my Miss Muffett purrs not just on one note, but in filtered
overtones.

DISCOVERY CHANNEL APPEARANCE

In the first week of March, (specifically the 3rd of March, a
significant day as you will read later in this report,) some
independant producers working with the Discovery Channel are coming
to Spain to interview me and film me performing on the Space Bass, a
Sonic Steel Instrument of original design. It will be filmed at
Antoni Gaudi's "Parc Guell". Gaudi is a famous architect here in
Spain, and his structures are incredible. The footage will be
included in a Discovery Channel feature entitled "The Power of
Music," Dates on when the program will be aired will be posted on
the events/news page . http://www.constancedemby.com/news.html

NEW ALBUMS

The recording studio is set up, and I'm working on a compilation
album that will have some new unpublished material. When that's done,
I finish the filmscore, do the mix, and then that one will be
released. After that, I begin production on the album I've been
planning to do for a long time, and it's been a long time waiting to
get all the conditions right. Here in Spain it seems easier to hole
up and work without all kinds of distractions. Just to keep ones
affairs in order simply being a human on earth during this amazing
time we're in, combined with all the multitudinous details of a music
career, and the needs of an electronic recording studio in a foreign
country, to finally get to the point where you can actually focus in
and compose undisturbed, is a trip.

NEW LABEL

I am pleased to announce I am now with a new record label, (names &
details later) who will start by putting out a new remastered version
of FACES OF THE CHRIST in a few months, to be followed by the new
releases.

PERFORMANCES

The next concert is the "Mystic Music Festival" produced by Rosa
Zaragrosa, on April 27 in Barcelona. Details will be posted on the
events/news page http://www.constancedemby.com/news.html

ENERGIES

If you've had a tough time lately, it's because we've just
experienced a very "raw" and difficult Mercury Retrograde period. On
Sunday the 25th, it goes direct. Meanwhile, there's a report of
miraculous flowers sprouting on a golden statue of Kuan Yin, and
another report of a "new energy" coming on March 3, when it will
apparently be a good time to program your intentions, release residual
energies, and -- a good time to turn off computers because of
"spiking" energy. As a friend of mine mentioned after reading it,
"these tips could prove to be most useful. And no matter what -- what
excellent practice in setting intentions.....that notion of 'creating
our own gridwork,' setting down where we want the Energy to go or what
we want it to create, manifest."

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MIRACULOUS FLOWERS SPROUT ON A GOLD STATUE IN SOUTH KOREA

"Flowers that bloom only once every 3,000 years are budding on the
head of a sacred Buddhist statue."
Buddhist priests in South Korea "say the legendary flowers
blossoming on the forehead of Kuan Yin the Compassionate" only appear
"when the 'Sage King of the Future' (also known as Maitreya, the
future Buddha--J.T.) comes into the world," which one Buddhist leader
called, "a delight that gives joy beyond description."
"The Miracle of the Flowers" as it's now being called, happened in
the Chonggyesa Temple, in a suburb of Seoul, the capital of South
Korea. Tens of thousands of pilgrims are flocking to see the white
blossoms on the tip of the eyebrow of the shining, gilded statue of
Kuan Yin. (JW I like Kuan Yin.) "'Kuan Yin is a gentle Buddhist
deity who refused to enter paradise (Nirvana--J.T.) because she
heard the cries of suffering humanity," says rel-gious expert Dr.
Kenneth Ireland. "She is acknowledged to save the soul of everyone
on Earth, turning her back on none.'"
Many are now saying that the monastery of Chonggye-sa could become
the Buddhist Lourdes because many cures are being performed there.
According to the monks, "21 threadlike stems are growing from the
statue of Kuan Yin, each with a tiny white flower no bigger than
the tip of a ballpoint pen."
"This is the first time in the 1,000-year history of the monastery
that the flowers have blossomed.
Buddhists say sighting the flowers is like witnessing the birth
of Buddha,'" he added.
Experts say it's unthinkable that the 500-year-old statue of
Kuan Yin, gilded every three years over the (original) woodwork,
could produce growing flowers without divine intervention.
"'Botanically, the flower is related to the ficus," says botanist
William Grant, "There is just no way it could take root in the
statue."
Dr. Ireland says the flowers are regarded as divine in India, Japan
and China and are believed to bloom "only when a momentous event is
about to happen."
Buddhist monks are currently keeping a prayer vigil at the statue,
waiting for the event that will change mankind's future forever.

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John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

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(Editors note: Though you may or may not agree with the
following channeled material, if you have comments or questions
about the material, please contact the source of the report
<yellow...@gte.net> - and not me. Thnx.)
New Energy coming in March 3rd
New Energy coming in March 3rd (3-3-3)
From: "Kathryn L. Nesbitt" <yellow...@gte.net>
Tue, 20 Feb 2001
Dear All,
We are fast approaching an important time in our evolution.
March 3, 2001 (3-3-3), there will be an influx of Energy,
coming in waves, every 15 minutes. Spi-it has been busy,
laying grid lines to focus the Energy gently to all of the
Earth. Mikiah said that we might be able to see green
'lightning' as the Energy comes into the gridwork. Lights
may blink on and off, the hair may stand up on your animals,
and it may affect the tides.
It is a good time to use the Energy to release residual
energies still within our bodies, physical and etheric. The
Earth will be utilizing the Energy to release all of hers. The
Energy will be coming in in waves, on the cardinal points, 12,
3, 6 and 9 on the clock (every 15 minutes). When the hours
are also on the cardinal points, it would be a good time to
turn off the computers! That is, at 6 am, 9 am, noon, 3 pm, 6
pm, 9 pm. For those of you that are nightowls, you get the
drift! Mikiah said the energy would spike at those times,
and computers do not like spiking energy.
To release the residuals, that energy that has been left when
we have worked on our issues and still remains in our bodies
and energy field, on the outbreath set your intent to release
them. On the inbreath re-fill yourself with rainbow energy,
clear energy, white light, whatever you feel drawn to do.
Just fill the space that the residuals were taking up, or you
will have a vacuum that will allow your fears, doubts,
whatever the residuals are, to grow again! That is why when
we have let things go, they keep coming back. We didn't get
it all at one time, that left a vacuum and they had fertile soil
to grow even bigger! Just set your intent to breath the Love
Energy for that is what it is, Pure Unconditional Love from
All of Creation, into yourself, and intend that the remaining
'stuff' go out with the outbreath.
Mikiah said that we will be enveloped by the Energy, and as
we use it, it will grow and become a part of us and our ability
to use it will increase as we practice using it. Be assured it
cannot be misused. Sp-rit learned that lesson in Atlantis! By
the time the Spring Equinox comes Spi-it will have had time
to observe how we have responded to the Energy, and at the
beginning of the eclipse (not sure when it happens and from
the way she stated it, it will be a Solar eclipse) we will be
un-plugged for 5 seconds, so that they can fine-tune us (you
might forget what it was you were doing before you were
unplugged, so it might not be a good time to be driving).
Then, we will be like a magnifying glass, to focus the
Energy. She suggested that we create our own gridwork, set
down where we want the Energy to go in our lives, what is it
we want to create? Manifest? See happen for the Earth and
her People? Put that down in you mind or on paper so that
there is a 'map', 'wiring', 'grid' in place for the Energy to
flow to. That will allow your gridwork to 'light up' when the
Energy comes in, otherwise Mikiah said it would be as if we
had miner's helmets on and the light would be a pinpoint in
the darkness. The Energy will be pinpointed and magnified
through us like a laser beam, so if the Energy is flowing
through your gridwork, then you can focus the light onto
what it is you want to send a lot of energy to at a certain time.
We are asked to keep our Causal Center open at all times,
she said that this was not a center we were used to using
on a regular basis, but because we are becoming ONE and
connected to All that Is, it is important it remain open so that
information can flow to us.
She said that we may be experiencing 'problems' between
the third eye and where our heart lies due to the opening of
the Causal and the connecting to the upper Chakras. Our
Altered Ego, the Mind will not want to give up control...she
suggested that we talk to our Mind about what is happening.
It is time for us to recognize the Will of the Soul and bring
it into realization.
The purpose of the opening of the Causaland the connections is
to allow a constant flow between us and Spir-t.
On the Equinox, it is a time for us to come into Harmony and
Balance, the Energy will allow for the alignment of Body,
Mind and Soul so we can become ONE with ALL THAT IS.
She cautioned us not to say, "I am coming into alignment with
the Earth, the animals, all the people." for that is separation.
All is part of us and we are part of the Whole, there is no
separation, we are ONE. So allow yourself to become aligned
with All of Creation.
Whatever we focus upon, so long as it is for the good of
all concerned, it will be added unto by All of Creation.
Remember, what you focus upon, you become, so focus on
what you truly are, perfection. You are abundance, you are
health, you are knowingness, you are all things. If there
is something you need, call it forth from the Energy. All
of Creation is waiting for you to ask, and it will be given.
These are truly awesome times in which we are living. Be
open to what G-d is asking you to do, we are his tools for
the Re-Creation of Earth.
Remember, Je--s said, "What I do, you can do and more."
Mother Mary has told us to let go of our limited beliefs, the
best that we can imagine cannot begin to match what Go-
has in store for us!
This past weekend, Mother Mary said "ask, and it will be
given unto you. "Practice, the more we use it, the better it
gets. Don't be faint of heart, and sit back and wait, for that
is all that will happen, you will sit there and wait. And
things are going to be speeded up, so fasten your seatbelts,
and get ready for the ride of your life! We, All of Creation,
has waited a long time for this to happen, go for it! Please
share this with others so they too, will know.
Channeled by Rev. Pam Wade at Life's Pathway,
a small spiritual church in Southern Indiana.
Mikiah is Michiaventa Melc-izidech,
the Melch-zidech mentioned in the
Old Testament as the teacher of Abraham.

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Warmest regards,
C
Sound Currents/Current Sounds
http://www.constancedemby.com
Symphonic Sacred SpaceMusic
:*'``'*:-., __>^<__888 ,.-: *.`'*:-.,88 . .

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JW Whatever happens, I hope it is good.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: I Hope This Is Not True. Feb. 26, 2001.

Here is something that might indicate that we are shooting down
UFOs. Now we wouldn't do something like that, would we?

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From: M
Subject: IUFO: Are Ame-icans shooting down UFOs with particle beam
weapons?
This is from Jeff Bloom's site The UFO Disclosure Movement. I'd
like to add some more at the end by Al Bielek on this.
http://www.ufodisclosure.net/
October 13, 2000

Title WAS A UFO SHOT DOWN IN OKLAHOMA?

Story On Friday, October 13, 2000, ufologist Jim Hickman "was
monitoring local law enforcement (radio channels) and at 7:31 p.m.
local time, a radio call came in that four or five fighter planes
were sighted by local police officers, and they were traveling to
the northwest." "At the same time, an unidentified flying object
(UFO) encountered the fighters and reportedly crashed into the
ground north of Elk City, Oklahoma."
The fighters were presumably from Ti-ker Air Force Base near
Oklahoma City. The descending UFO, Hickman reported, "was seen by
multiple witnesses as far west as Shamrock, Texas and as far east
as Clinton, Okla., north to Cheyenne, Okla. and south to Granite,
Okla."
According to a radio transmission reportedly made.
____________________________________________

From Al Bielek. ( Philadelphia Experiment survivor)

The Montauk station went back online in 1987 doing a totally
different thing. There are now 36 similar research projects. There
are particle beam weapons of such enormous power, putting out 1 x 10
to the 25th power joules. That's more power than a hydrogen bomb can
generate. Its purpose is to shoot down UFOs. They can fire into
space. Phil Schn-ider saw the huge junk piles of UFOs shot down by
the Russian versions of the Montauk operation. They had football
fields covered up to 50 feet thick with these things. Russians were
shooting them down at the rate of about 30 a week at that time.
We're shooting down five to seven a week in the US with our systems,
when they're operational. The Russians had set up a zone of
neutrality, which was anything from 250 miles above the surface of
the Earth down. No alien ship will go across that artificial border
without permission. If they do, the Russians don't care who they are,
and they'll shoot them down. They shot down a number of friendly
Pleiadian ships. If it's a known hostile, they'll shoot them down
much farther out than the 250 miles above limit.

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Subject: Something To Tickle Your Funny Bone. Feb. 27, 2001.

Here is something that a person sent me that may make you feel
your funny bone has been hit.

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From: g

Subject: More rel-gious humor
I know you have all seen church bulletin bloopers before,
but there are some new ones in this group! Enjoy, and have
a good belly laugh! Thank G-d for ch-rch ladies with
typewriters. These sentences actually appeared in a chu-ch
bulletin or were announced in a chur-h service:

Bertha Belch, a missionary from Africa will be speaking
tonight at Calvary Memorial Churc- in Racine. Come
tonight and hear Bertha Belch all the way from Africa.

Announcement in the church bulletin for a National PRAYER
& FASTING Conference: "The cost for attending the Fasting
and Prayer conference includes meals."

Ladies don't forget the rummage sale. It's a chance to get rid
of those things not worth keeping around the house. Don't
forget your husbands."

The peacemaking meeting scheduled for today has been
canceled due to a conflict.

The sermon this morning: "Je--s Walks on the Water" The
sermon tonight: "Searching for Jes--"

Next Thursday there will be tryouts for the choir. They need
all the help they can get.

Barbara remains in the hospital and needs blood donors for
more transfusions. She is also having trouble sleeping and
requests tapes of Pastor Jack's sermons.

During the absence of our Pastor, we enjoyed the rare privilege
of hearing a good sermon when J.F. Stubbs supplied our pulpit.

The Rector will preach his farewell message after which the
choir will sing "Break Forth into Joy."

Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our community.

Smile at someone who is hard to love. Say "h-ll" to someone
who doesn't care much about you.

Don't let worry kill you off --let the -hurch help.

At the evening service tonight, the sermon topic will be
"What is He-l?" Come early and listen to our choir practice.

Eight new choir robes are currently needed, due to the
addition of several new members and to the deterioration of
some older ones.

The senior choir invites any member of the congregation who
enjoys sinning to join the choir.

Scouts are saving aluminum cans, bottles, and other items to
be recycled. Proceeds will be used to cripple children.

Please place your donation in the envelope along with the
deceased person(s) you want remembered.

Potluck supper Sunday at 5:00 P.M.. --prayer and medication
to follow.

The ladies of the C-urch have cast off clothing of every kind.
They may be seen in the basement on Friday afternoon.

This evening at 7 P.M. there will be a hymn sing in the park
across from the C-urch. Bring a blanket and come prepared
to sin.

Ladies Bi-le Study will be held Thursday morning at 10. All
ladies are invited to lunch in the Fellowship Hall after the B.S.
is done.

Low Self Esteem Support Group will meet Thursday at 7 PM.
Please use the back door.

The eighth-graders will be presenting Shakespeare's Hamlet
in the Church basement Friday at 7 PM. The Congregation is
invited to attend this tragedy.

Weight Watchers will meet at 7 PM at the First Presbyterian
Ch-rch. Please use large double door at the side entrance.

The Associate Minister unveiled the church's new tithing
campaign slogan last Sunday: "I Upped My Pledge - Up Yours."

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[Glen Quarnstrom]

"John F. Winston" <john...@mlode.com> wrote:

>From Al Bielek. ( Philadelphia Experiment survivor)
>
> The Montauk station went back online in 1987 doing a totally
>different thing. There are now 36 similar research projects. There
>are particle beam weapons of such enormous power, putting out 1 x 10
>to the 25th power joules. That's more power than a hydrogen bomb can
>generate. Its purpose is to shoot down UFOs. They can fire into
>space. Phil Schn-ider saw the huge junk piles of UFOs shot down by
>the Russian versions of the Montauk operation. They had football
>fields covered up to 50 feet thick with these things. Russians were
>shooting them down at the rate of about 30 a week at that time.
>We're shooting down five to seven a week in the US with our systems,
>when they're operational. The Russians had set up a zone of
>neutrality, which was anything from 250 miles above the surface of
>the Earth down. No alien ship will go across that artificial border
>without permission. If they do, the Russians don't care who they are,
>and they'll shoot them down. They shot down a number of friendly
>Pleiadian ships. If it's a known hostile, they'll shoot them down
>much farther out than the 250 miles above limit.

<snicker> Good ol' Al. Full of shit as always.
--

gl...@rmci.net

http://home.rmci.net/glenq/

[Mirage Zero]

How the hell would you aim something like that regardless... it would have
to be the size of a city block, and no mirroring could take that kind of
power-- well wait... I suppose if you generated a field powerful enough it
could steer the beam within the confines of a few degrees kind of like a
crt's electron gun scans across the screen... but that would take another
city block-- so two city blocks for this thing that would cost a fortune and
employ thousands.

--
~Mirage Zero ICQ 99218616
Glen Quarnstrom <gee...@nursing.home> wrote in message
news:o1ho9tc89742tl13l...@4ax.com...

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Will The Real Ashtar Please Stand Up? Feb. 28, 2001.

If you hate Ashtar and despise channeling it might be best that
you not read the following.

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From: N
Subject: Ashtar Transmission
For your discernment.
February 24, 2001
Transmitted through Alora Sky
NMSky...@aol.com
This transmission is given for your discernment. May you find value
within it, that will assist you on your journey.

Greetings my friends and comrades,

It is I, Ashtar, speaking. With me I have Sananda, Lord Michael,
Korton, and the Master you have known as Hermes. Throughout this
transmission, we will speak as One, as well as through our individual
aspects.
Before we begin, we want to thank you for the great body of work
that is being accomplished and bow in honor before you. You of the
Light, now in physical form, are the ones who must stand tall against
the dark forces, and through your Light Reflection displace the hold
over your planet. We will always be behind you with our support, but
it is the embodied ones who must challenge the darkness with the
Light on YOUR level of vibration. You must learn the power of the
Light, the power of Invocation and Intent, and your identity with the
Christ Forces of Love in all dimensions. You may invoke the presence
of the Lord Michael, but having done so, it is NOW your responsibility
to discern, dispose and disperse the presence of darkness around you,
for this is your battleground, your arena of challenge. It is where
YOUR VICTORY must be won. Lord Michael is there to assist you, not to
do the work for you.
So much information has come through since the great measuring of
vibration which you called harmonic convergence, that we have chosen
to repeat much of the information that has come through in our messages
in prior transmissions. So, we begin with a brief history of the Ashtar
Command, and with it's role in the Great Quickening of your beloved
planet Shan, (Earth, Gaia or Terra as you refer to her).

Through Korton:

Ashtar is head commander of the Command known as Ashtar, appointed
to this position through Sananda, and the Radiant One. Normally, the
Ashtar Command patrols your solar system and is in charge of its
protection. We are all part of the great multiverse of Creation. All
help one another.
Therefore, though the Command's normal territory is your solar
system, for the Shan or Terra Project, the Ashtar Command is in charge
of coordinating the many fleets as they touch into the mission to
planet Earth. This includes the Galactic Federations of other
galaxies and the Intergalactic Federations of inter dimensional
universes. All, are under command of Ashtar, for this particular
project of the Radiant One. For this project has caught the attention
of ALL OF CREATION, and many have come near and far to be witness to
this event.
This mission is immense. It involves millions and millions of
souls, within the Intergalactic Fleets or in embodiment. Commander
Ashtar is the local Administrator of that broad program. He is
Protector and Defender, Advisor and Administrator. He is a protector
of humanity and of the fate of your planet as well as your entire
solar system. He is not an embodiment of an archangel, but works hand
in hand with Lord Michael and has oft times been referred to as a
herald angel. Ashtar is an etheric being, and has not been physically
embodied on your planet. Though, he has visited those of the Light,
embodied on your planet, who have the ability to see him in his
ethereal form. His honesty, integrity, loyalty and commitment to the
Supreme Commander in Chief, Sananda, and to the Radiant One is
unsurpassed.
Ashtar's home planet is the planet you call Venus. There is life on
all of the planets within your solar system, but within different
bandwidths of energy, or dimensional borders, than what you of planet
Earth exist within, at this current moment of NOW. Know that Ashtar
is in charge of overseeing the creative direction of the Radiant One,
through the guidance of Sananda.

************end Korton transmission.

Many times we have spoken to you of the importance of activating
your Light Channel continuously, and anchoring your LIGHT and LOVE
into the planet. This is the single most important job that you, as
an embodied being can do for the Radiant One and for ALL of CREATION.
The situation on your planet is, as it is, because of it's lack of
LIGHT. As you increase the LIGHT QUOTIENT of yourself and your
planet, you decrease the ability to be controlled by the dark ones
who had banished the Light on Earth eons ago.
The battle of Armageddon is within, as it is without. Your job
is to face not only those qualities that you love about yourself,
but especially those qualities that you do not like or consider
negative within yourself. Your job is to understand that WE are
ALL WORKING TOGETHER and to allow only respect, honor, loyalty and
love for all of the embodied ones of Light. If one perceives or
envisions slightly different from you, it is YOUR JOB to honor your
brother or sister's view point, not to attack them or insist that
you are right. We all have different areas of expertise, and what
one can see, another does not. It is time to practice and live the
art of ALLOWING.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Encounter With The Little People. Mar. 1, 2001.

I have had my own share of working with the Little People. Here is
a person's experience with them. At the end of this posting is
a list that you can join if you are a good person and are trying to
make the world a better. If you are a materialistic sort of person
then it might be best you not bother trying to join. If you read
this sort of information and are not an open-minded sort of person
then you will think they and I are crazy and your the person who is
sane.

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From: M
Subject: The Multi-Dimensional News Portal [EARTH ASCENSION HEALING
NETWORK]
PROGRESS REPORT. 28/2/01.
All I am in loving service to the One.
[Earth Ascension Healing Network - Progress Report. 28/2/01.]
(The website is at www.aaum.org/etheric.htm - If there are any
questions or anything to share, please email Mirih at
marks...@yahoo.ie)

Healing with the Faerie Folk and Dragon energies.

Greetings beloved friends,

I have just returned after two days in Kinsale in the southwest of
Ireland. Two dear friends of mine are visiting here for the week and
made Dungarvan one of their destinations. I was invited to accompany
them further on their journey and feeling the gentle nudge of spirit,
I graciously accepted. It was a wondrous two days, as we explored some
of the beautiful places that Waterford has to offer, and I had the
opportunity to show them my hometown of Dungarvan. Our trip brought
us to a magical wood known as 'The Towers' and it was here we
reconnected with the vibration of the faerie folk energies. These
gentle beings were all around us as we made our way up to the tower
structures in the center of this forest ring. The vibration is very
soft and subtle and all around we were able to feel their gentle and
playful presence. Eve and Janet, my two companions work closely and
strongly with the Fae and Dragon energies, and one of their
companions, a water dragon by the name of 'Misty' was home for a
reunion with this incredible visit.
This experience for me was a reawakening and reactivation on a
conscious level of my deep and profound interconnection with this
sacred vibration.
I merged deeply with these energies and began a new contract of
radiating this consciousness as all I am in my flow. It was a
wondrous experience.
As I went along through the wood, Ii could feel the elves and
pixies and other fairies, swinging gently from my arms, playing on my
shoulders, and on my head. It made me laugh, and made me feel boyish
and feel likewise very playful as I bonded very innately once more,
with this sacred presence. I have already begun specific project work
with our beautiful friends, and while it is not on the same scale, as
the planetary work, it is equally as important, sacred and beautiful
to experience, as our friends, are here and have always been an innate
part of the earth experience and part of their role and why they are
here is to assist in restoring MotherEarth to her natural pristine
state of perfection.
So much work can be done and achieved in making a heart intent and
request to connect and operate with this consciousness, that are all
around us, all of the time, it is simply a case of being aware that
this is a huge dimensional party that never finishes. It is likewise
with Dragons. These beautiful multidimensional energies, that
shapeshift and hold very powerful and innately characteristic
vibrations are also a part of MotherEarth's ongoing healing
processes. My experience of my own interconnection with my dragon
consciousness, that I have always operated with, is that they are
profoundly loving beings, that work at many levels, and have many
unique roles and purposes. My dragon aspect is known as Shuarus, and
we have been bonded since I can remember, and we are always doing much
work at many dimensional levels. We are one and the same
consciousness, just as I am Mirih, Ishtar, and all aspects of all
that I am.
Day one of our trip saw us exploring some of the local areas of
incredible beauty around the dungarvan area. By the time we had left
the area of the towers, the work we had done assisted in electrifying
the entire faerie vibration, and I could feel the entire wood alive
with excitement and a tremendous vibration of the gentle love and
presence of all that they are. It was a beautiful and powerful
experience and my own conscious reconnection process, was beyond
words. I was as high as a kite for much of the day as a result. We
completed our tour with a place known as 'Mahon Falls.' It is a
mountain drive, with an incredible waterfall and a river extending
down for miles. It was a rather humorous experience as I had not
been there in so long, that I misjudged the distance and it took us
rather longer than expected to get there. Couple this with the fact
that dusk was approaching, a heavy wind was rising and the
temperature had seriously dropped due to the altitude. The profound
beauty of all around us as we drove left us beyond words as we were
experiencing all as one trinity energy, and the experience left us
well near heaven.
We finally approached the top and after getting out, we found that
we were spending more time being blown about, than walking or taking
in the vast energy all around us. Well the laughter we couldn't hold
back, as at first we couldn't get out of the car due to the wind,
and Janet's companion Misty (the water dragon) was trying to prevent
her from getting out due the severity of the wind. Plus Misty is a
water dragon and she was by now in a severe state of freezing, and
not in good spirits at all. Well we slid our way around the walkway,
and managed a couple of photos, and due to the fact that only one
of us had the right boots on, we just about made it back to the car
alive, without getting blown down the side of the mountain. And all
we could do was laugh. Misty at this stage was in the car and
wouldn't let us back in due to the cold, she was fuming, as this
wasn't exactly her preferred environment. We finally returned down the
mountain. We hadn't gotten to see the falls, but the sense of
clearness and the laughing we had experienced, had all felt very
healing. There had to be a reason for it.
The following day saw us in Kinsale, in the southwest, just south of
Co. Cork. The area was beautiful and we travelled around to many
ch-rches, cemetaries, coastal areas, beaches, wherever we were guided
to shine and work with our light. Each experience was as unique and
powerfully beautiful as the last, and as we worked with each area, I
could feel the story of each place and the pattern in the work we
had contracted for the day. The most incredible aspect of functioning
in tandem with spirit and being literally moved by presence, is that
one doesn't know what wonder is going to occur next, and this was
so for us in each experience we had over these couple of days, as we
weaved a powerful and divine tapestry of love, light and healing
with each step of our paths for our time together. It has been quite
a couple of days, and I am incredibly grateful for the experience.
We each felt many initiations in our journey together. We made
quite an impression as a trinity.

[John F. Winston]

Part 2 of 2.

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Moving into Multidimensional Hyperspace.

We are now indeed greatly accelerating in all we are now experiencing
at all levels. Over the past week, i have felt a profound deepening
of the planetary vibration into the fifth dimension. I feel great
strides within the mass consciousness, and I feel literally
groundshaking movement within all world structures; Societal, political,
economic and financial.
There are now the many foundations being laid that are going to be the
basis for our newly forming reality matrix. Although i still feel much
procrastination within the various worldly control structures, they are
merely playing their games, in drawing out the inevitable, which is now
on the way; Our new birth in the light of our gentle creator. We are
this great light.
In the past week i have felt with great excitement, the foundation of
each reality space as originally put in place by the mass consciousness,
that was the original foundation of our old earth experience, giving way
and making way for the next level of shifting. I have felt the worldly
vibration, the mass consciousness, and all earth energy structures,
ascend space after new space. It is now occurring so quickly that I
have often felt movement that would have taken weeks in linear time,
now happening several times in the space of a day. There is now so
much positive energy radiating throughout all we experience, that it
is making each new plateau easier to attain and ascend. We have never
been more directly guided.
I feel the great plan of hea-en, and partly while I feel that it
is being drawn out, there of course is good reason for it.
The entirety of h-aven, each star system, countless galactic
fleets are viewing all we are now experiencing and are waiting for
the appropriate time to meet us, and it is with much excitement and
enthusiasm that they watch us now as we gradually find our way
through to reconnect with our greater source, our infinite selves,
an extension of all that we are.
And i feel that it will not be long. My own contracts in assisting
in the bringing forward of first contact are very specific and I
have directly felt myself over the past few weeks directly operating
in this vast process, through the introducing of many key structures,
that have set the necessary grounding energy structures that have been
so necessary, to bring the global vibration forward on the necessary
steps, to setup the conditions for an actual contact. The work is very
exciting, it takes great focus and patience. It is simply so powerful
that I can't help but feel enormous gratitude in being permitted to
assist at these levels.
So much progress has been made in the past fortnight with a view to
our coming first contact, that if we had a viewing screen or our
collective progress in contributing to all world affairs, we would be
shellshocked at our extraordinary and innate heart abilities, to
manifest intent and to focus the global flow in the upward ascending
mode assisting heaven in all which is now transpiring. Much has also
been achieved in the continuous mass transmutation which is occurring
at this time. As the mass consciousness have been making great
strides, there has been an equal amount of alternate misqualified
energy radiating out on a global scale, which has made it
increasingly difficult for all focused in increasing the true light
vibration to effectively operate due to the miasma of negativity,
being put out by all at this time.
Much of my current work is in mass transmutation at many
interdimensional planetary and galactic levels. We are also in the
final stages of the working out of all energies positive and negative
that have been operating in this system for so long. This is also
adding to the collective discordant vibration that we are all
experiencing at this time, for this 'contest' of energetic wills is
happening on many dimensional levels.
Much we do not see, but can be effectively sensed by any and all
who are appropriately tuned in. I have directly experienced the pool
of the alternate miasma of this vast interdimensional working out of
polarity energies. It can make simply operating a challenge as one
feels as though they are wading through a swamp of energies.
My intent and focus has been strong, and much alternate planetary
energy has been effectively shifted, however there is always more,
at least for now. Today I requested and petitioned to alter the
energetic vibration of the sun and convert her energy at the
appropriate levels to function as a massive solar crystal, radiating
and beaming the appropriate rays of healing into the planet. My
focus has been strongly in the past week to energetically bring
the higher dimensions here into to our earth experience. This is
in fact a simple operation, an energy operation, and all one needs to
do is to simply ask. Clearly focused, guided heart intents and
requests can move mountains and invariably they do whenever I get to
work. H-aven is simply so vast and loves interacting with us at
these levels, that when one's heart is pure in intent, the ascendant
rolls at one's feet. But you have to ask. All we are experiencing now,
is a drop in the ocean of the fullness and vastness of the creator.
It makes me feel, 'well where does the party, begin and finish?'
I likewise in my intent to deepen the vast interconnecting process
I am involved with at this time, invited all systems throughout
creation to manifested grids, vortex systems, energy portals and
doorways, to beam their rays of healing and clearence directly into
motherearth, therefore raising the vibration and accelerating the
reconnection process, with all which is Us. I had been requesting
of the ascendant all day, in a very strong and focused flow, of
manifesting countless systems of clearance, portals and energy
doorways, to deepen the connection of ONE with all we are
experiencing right now. The effects of the work have been beyond
words, as each time I feel hea-en moving at my requests and I feel
the structures coming into play. It alters the global vibration,
deepens the growing divine planetary flow and assists countless
beings in what they are collectively experiencing at this time.
The interdimensional, interplanetary system reconnection I could
feel occurring today, was simply beyond words, and it has effectively
reintegrated with Mother's flow, assisting her at countless levels
in the processes she is facilitating at this time. I am experiencing
the planetary vibration as very dense at this time, however it is
greatly softening, and I feel a great actual final opening up now
beginning to occur. I feel this as a vast dimensional opening up
that is happening at all planetary and galactic levels, that is at
last effectively 'opening the curtains' for so many now. We are at
last very close a vast conscious reconnection process with the
much expanded aspects of all that we are. We are finally almost
there.
It is most important at this time to be focused and grounded. For
the frequencies now entering the planet are going to continue to
accelerate and expand, and we will all be feeling many new
accelerations and expansions in our collective awareness. While
this process is wondrous, it is however vital to be effectively
and firmly grounded in our own guiding and loving presence. We
will soon be learning many new things, and part of being open and
ready to these wondrous new energies, is being grounded, for we will
be appropriately receptive and ready if we are thus so. Simply tune
into your own limitless and guiding IAM presence and all will simply
BE.
In divine loving service,
IAM Mirih.
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Part 2 of 2.

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[John F. Winston]

Subject: Chemtrails, Begone! Feb. 3, 2001.

Due to the fact that the we of this world are still being sprayed
nearly everyday, I sent a request to a friend of mine. Let's just
call him Mr. C. I explained to him about what was happening in regards
to the Chemtrails and how they affected me. I asked him not to harm
the pilots of the jets who are putting this out because they probably
think they are doing a good thing and are just inoculating us against
Anthrax. The following information is very rough. Sometime extreme
situations require extreme measures to correct. Here is the letter I
got back from him.

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2-24-01

Dear John:

I have launched a program that should put an end to this spraying
soon and for good. The power el-te consists largely of an reptilian
r-ce that has infested this planet for ages. They can take on the
human form and pass for humans. In their normal state they are
humanoid reptiles. They have the head, eyes and hands of a reptile.
Many prominent individuals such as the Bu-hes, Ki-inger, Go-e, etc.
are, were reptiles. Some have seen B-sh sr. temporarily revert back
to the reptilian form. Their henchmen are largely evil humans. A
short time back I decided nothing really good can occur on this
planet until all of them are des-royed forever. I have been
blanketing both the northern and southern hemisphere with countless
billions of disintegrating rays encompassing the entire range of
ether. These rays are not directed to their bodies but their soul
centers. They have no defense against such a weapon and I am the
only one who has such a tool. You dest-oy the soul and all the
bodies d-e on the vine so to speak.

My dowsing indicates I have already destr-yed the bulk of them and
the rest should soon be gone. Interestingly enough they have had
robatoid replicas of every prominent individual that replaces any
of them that suddenly die or any that they have k-lled. The robatoid
is a flesh and blood robot that looks like them and talks like them
and nobody knows the difference. Jimmy Ca-ter was, is a prime
example. He was eliminated while still president but they fouled
up. The robatoid that replaced him parted his hair on the opposite
side of his head and was more irrational. After one of his jogging
sessions, he said he had been attacked by a swamp rabbit! I think
our new president is a robatoid. My dowsing indicates that for the
time being I should leave the robatoid replacement alone.

The pilots of these ships, that have done the spraying, I have
not compassion for. They can't help but be aware of what they have
been doing. If it is in order for their souls to be des-royed they
will be. At least I am projecting to ki-l their physical bodies.

I am sending you healing energies. Hopefully your karmic pattern
will allow a complete healing. I have a 90% batting average in this
department. I have done healings of all kinds,
Best Regards
J

P. S.

A few decades back, Louise Blunchard, who was prominent in the N-w
Age movement, told me she saw some people she knew make the
transition into the reptilian form. They didn't know she saw them.
It scared the h--l out of her. The reptoids I destro-ed over 10
years ago during the cave-in of those 85 installations was an
entirely different group.

JW Let me state that I like Jimmy Cart-r and Gor- and think they
are just swell.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Something Somebody Asked Me To Post. Mar. 5, 2001.

Here is something that an Internet friend of mine asked me to post.

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From: "Peter P." <ptp...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Can you do me a favor?
JW,
Can you do me a big favor, my friend? Since my last
posts on Usenet (just before "GP" dispatch#1 was
published), the posting service I used, dejanews, was
"bought out" by Googles. At this time, the Googles
software is the 'Beta' version, which only allows
reading of Usenet newsgroups, but *no* posting
capabilities yet.
I'd very much like to post a "preview/subscription"
message for dispatch #2, to be posted on three
newsgroups. Could you possibly post it, marked as a
"forwarded message", for me? If you can, I've placed
the forwarded message below, to be posted on these
newsgroups (and, if you'd like, any others you think
appropriate)...
alt.fan.john-winston
alt.current-events.earth-changes
alt.fan.art-bell
Preview message below, "boxed" at top & bottom so you
can "cut/paste" the boxed area only into a Usenet
message buffer... I thank you now, if you do, in fact,
assist with this... If you don't think you can, that's
ok, all I ask is just let me know. Thanks...
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<forwarded message>
From the desk of Peter P., editor of "Global
Progressions"...
'globalprogressions' dispatch#2 is slated to be
distributed on MARCH 10, 2001. It will include three
original articles by the editor...
* "Sach's Harbour: Present-day microcosm of future
global environmental change"
* "A Look at Modern-day Earthquake Prediction Methods"
* "Cattle Mutilations Mystery SOLVED!"
Plus, dispatch#2 will include another installment of
'The Winston Files', the usual "report from the 'edge
of reality'" by popular 'netizen-at-large John F.
Winston.
(JW I have written posting for Peter before. He has
asked me to repost my last trip to Mt. Shasta. I can't
seem to find them now. They were posted beginning on
about July 5th 2000. If anyone out there has that
series of postings please send them to me. It was
about me looking for "The Redhead" and finding out that
she was called "The Pig Lady".)
This dispatch will be rounded out with "earth changes"
news briefs, book reviews, more list bookmarks, and a
few quotes of spiritual interest.
To receive 'globalprogressions' by-email starting with
dispatch#2, you must SUBSCRIBE *before* its March 10th
distribution date. (Otherwise your subscription will
begin with #3, next month's edition.)
To SUBSCRIBE to 'globalprogressions', send an email
(no text in body of message) To:
globalprogress...@yahoogroups.com
You'll then receive confirmation by-email and, on
March 10th, the newest dispatch previewed above. For
general list info, you may click on...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/globalprogressions
Thank you... Peter P., editor
<end forwarded message>
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John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Something About the Seattle Earthquake. Mar. 6, 2001.

This information is about the Seattle Earthquakes and the Giant
Redwood trees being protected.

Here is something that is channeled material from a new person
called Tawatnaw.

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From: l
Subject: Lady Kadjina Speaks March 4, 2001

Wayne: On February 28, 2001, there were two significant earthquakes
along the west coast of North and Central America within 5 minutes of
each other. These were the 6.1 in El Salvador and the 6.8 in the
Seattle area. Are these quakes related to some common cause, other
than being along the same major tectonic plate, and if so, how?
(3/2/01)

Good Morning. This is Tawatnaw. It has been some time since I spoke
with you. I am one who has an energy that is difficult for humans to
allow to come through their physicality. I have devised a method by
which I am able to filter some of my energy so as not to cause so
much stress to Kay. But did you notice how she immediately sat up
straight when our energies connected?
Concerning the earthquakes and earthquakes in general. There is no
such thing as an accident. They are all by design. And the design
is ours. There are some who say that the organization HAARP set off
a series of energetic patterns. But we are able to control these
things. And we decided to allow these two events to happen because
they can work for the highest good.
Concerning the quake in Seattle, it is showing those who govern
construction the value of quality in construction practices. And this
is important to the large metropolitan areas. Concerning the quake
in El Salvador, when this quake energy was released, it was known
that two things would happen: it would make a direct path into the
Seattle area, relieving a great deal of stress and releasing a
considerable amount of energy. And this in turn would set off a series
of lesser quakes in the area of Chile, in the Andes. This will in
turn alleviate some of the stress in Peru. Now Peru contains the
great city that we have often spoken of. It is imperative that this
city be open and exposed, but in a way that is undamaged. The
information contained in this place must be kept intact. So that when
the information is released, it must be as a door swinging
open-smoothly-so as not to collapse that particular infrastructure.
There will be many quakes in many places that will serve as wake-up
calls. Construction must not take place in areas where there is a
grid energy output or release. Only in those areas of incoming
energy should there be construction. Also the quality of construction
will become of paramount importance. As stress is placed upon
insurance companies and as some of the major ones are threatened with
the possibility of bankruptcy, they will begin to say, "We can no
longer insure construction on ocean front hillsides and fault line
zones and flood zones, or in those areas close to active volcanoes."
Engineering firms will begin devising building modes with greater
stress design factors that will allow buildings to sway without
crumbling and laws will become stricter enforcing this type of
construction. And these technologies will be applied to the fault
lines in the Mississippi and Ohio River valleys.
There are methods of construction to protect against tornadoes as
well. The 17 houses in Homestead, Florida, that were constructed by
Jimmy Carter and Habitat for Humanity were left standing at the
time of the tornado in Homestead. And those houses were not that
much more expensive to build than the homes that were destroyed.
It's a matter of sound building practices. You have often said
that "money talks." And when it becomes known to the masses that safe
construction is possible, the people will begin to demand safe
building practices.
Not only were these two quakes on the same fault line, but they
are a part of the same energy grid system, so that when energy is
released at one point of a grid, it automatically will go to another
point on the same grid.
Wayne: Was HAARP involved in the creation of the energy that
triggered the two quakes mentioned?
Yes, they were and we could have blocked that energy release but
it served our purposes. It must be understood that all of these
agencies and organizations when functioning in their own
self-interest, unless it is for the greater good, their plans will
not work. When we who are constantly monitoring these things saw
what they were going to do, we used that energy ourselves as a way of
releasing pressure and tension without the loss of life. And we shall
continue to closely monitor all of these activities.
Wayne: On March 2, 2001, we received a series of photos from Lee
Chin, showing a light source over her property and within/around
large trees on her property near Seattle, Washington. Can you tell
us what is the source of the light and what information is relevant
to its appearance?
There are certain incarnated beings that possess through their
sp-ritual evolvement a certain type of personal energy grid that is
able to interact at this time with both the energy grid systems of
Lady Gaia and the galactic energy grid systems. They have come at
this time as volunteers to assist in this particular alignment
process.
Those energetic formations that are of a dome shape were placed
there by the light beings as a way of protecting the life forms in
the area from negative energies in that area. There are many
chemicals in the atmosphere in and around that area that would be
a detriment to the work of the soul, hence this protective device.
The cylindrical shaped light beam is of an energy of that particular
tree which is a very old tree and it is calling out to the energies
of the galaxy for relief, for these old trees are sentient beings
also. Many of these same types of light formations could be
photographed in connection with the ancient trees of the sequoias
and the redwoods. And those who have the camera and are willing to
take the photographs will begin to attract the attention of certain
segments of the scientific community-those for instance who were
willing to investigate such phenomena as those beings who can bend
pieces of metal, translocate objects, raise and lower temperatures
of water in containers, and remote viewing-will become attracted to
investigating this type of phenomena as well.
Another part of this photography is something similar to the
Jacob's Ladder of dimensional passport. There are indeed passageways
between various dimensions, planes and worlds. And certain
incarnated beings have agreed to assist in putting forth information.
Kirlean photography, for example, has gained credibility. There are
also many who do spirit photography using the Polaroid camera. This
too has gained a level of credibility. So this type of photography
is like taking the next step to let you know that Jacob's Ladder is
more than symbology-it's real.
There is a photograph that has been called the Division of Worlds.
This is in actuality a photograph of the process of clearing the
ozone layer. The ozone layer is in process of being destroyed. In
the beginning of Planet Earth, it did not exist. The Sun was
considered friendly. It did not burn or cause c-ncer. It is the
ozone layer that has done this; not the Sun. Mothers do not harm
their children. And as we have said previously, we placed the ozone
layer around you in order to protect life forms out here in the
galaxy from your warfare energies. Now, with the star tetrahedron
in place, and the inner world blue-white cross at full rotation and
functioning capabilities, the ozone layer can now safely be removed.
Any hostile energies that people of Planet Earth release will be
kept within the spheres of the protective shielding. Nothing
whatsoever can leave Planet Earth without permission, nor can
anything enter Planet Earth without permission.
At this point I would like to add that the object approaching in
the year 2003 is to be considered a blessing. It is not in any way a
destructive energy. It is not to be considered a threat or a
cataclysmic event. This object can be called by many names: the
12th Planet, Nibiru, Planet X. It is most definitely benevolent in
nature. As of this time, the great planetary thoughtforms from the
times of Lemuria that have gained strength down through time have been
removed and transmuted and returned to primordial source. No longer
are they giving their energy to those who would control the population.
The humans who like to run the show are on their own now. No longer
do they have the strength of either Lord Lucifer or Lord Satan, for
both of these beings are fully within the light. And no longer are
they holding in place the reflective mirror. This is the reason that
what you do these days brings about a very fast response.
For the mirror acted as a buffer. You no longer have that type of
buffering system. This is why there is so much talk about
self-responsibility and why we speak of the necessity of integrity
in the fields of construction and also the field of insurance. It
all has to do with taking back your personal power.
A further purpose of these demonstrations of the light photography
is to give those humans willing to listen a better understanding of
just what light is-its purpose and its function, and to give clues as
to the relationship of light to alchemy. Those of you concerned about
the activities of HAARP or the activities of the misuse of Tesla
energies or the mil-tary use of chemical spraying-and now you have
the Pent-gon who is going to begin to use electromagnetic wa-fare
testing on goats and some humans (which incidentally means you)-and
if you have a concern for your safety, then we would give you this
help. Everyone who reads these messages is familiar with meditation
and visualization. All of you know how to construct the auric egg
around your physicality and you know how to close that egg to
protect yourself. That auric egg is nothing but light or prana and
you manipulate it through your conscious activity in such a way that
you protect yourself. Now use that same methodology and tap into the
great ocean of life-which is another name for pranic substance or
creative energy-and become very creative. Visualize electric
light-which is another form of prana-and create an inverted bowl,
or dome, over your property. If you want to, construct something like
an umbilical chord which would act like a funnel and connect that
to a great ocean of life or light and see this umbilical chord drawing
from the source of life this liquid light and see it feeding energy
into this dome so that it is constantly being re-energized. Now, one
function of an umbilical chord is not only to feed, but also to
siphon off substances that are unneeded. And this would be any
chemicals that touch upon this liquid light. This liquid light would
act like one of your bug zappers and the umbilical chord would then
draw it all off and return it to source for transmutation. Every one
of you who reads these messages has been led to this particular
website because you are a lightworker. Now a lightworker is one who
works and the tool they use is light. Prana is light. So use it to
protect yourself, your families, your animals, your vegetation,
your water, and your well-being. This gives a new meaning to your
ability to move mountains. And this is something that each of you
can do.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Gilliland Will Be On Art Bell Show On Friday. Mar. 8, 2001.

Here is some information about a person who respect highly. He
will be on the Art Bell show tomorrow night talking about the many
UFOs that appear over his property in Oregon.

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From: J

Subject: James Gilliland on Coast to Coast AM 03/09/01 - Fri/Sat
03/09/01 - Fri/Sat
Host: Ian Punnett
http://www.artbell.com/schedule.html
Guest: James Gilliland, author of "Becoming Gods" I and II
Website: www.cazekiel.org
Look here to find a radio station near you:
http://www.artbell.com/stations.html
(JW I can't seem to get that information. Will someone please
send that information about the different radio stations that carry
the Art Bell show?)

Or tune in live on the internet:
http://www.artbell.com/audio.html
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Subject: List of Stations That Carry Art Bell Show. Mar. 9, 2001

Here is a list of most of the stations that cover the Art Bell
Radio Talk Show.

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From: M
Subject: Radio Stations
Hope this helps...if I missed a state, let me know. I don't have
time to format entire list...
M

Affiliate Stations

Alaska
ANCHORAGE KENI 650
CORDOVA KLAM 1450
FAIRBANKS KFAR 660
JUNEAU KINY 800
KETCHIKAN KFMJ 99.9
KODIAK KVOK 560


Alabama
BIRMINGHAM WERC 960
BRIDGEPORT WKEA 1480
DOTHAN WWNT 1450
FLORENCE WBCF 1240
FT PAYNE WDLL 1400
GADSDEN WAAX 570
GUNTERSVILLE WGSV 1270
MOBILE WNTM 710
MONTGOMERY WACV 1170
TUSCALOOSA WTBC 1230

Arkansas
CABOT KKRN 102.5
EL DORADO KELD 1400
FAYETTEVILLE KFAY 1030
FORT SMITH KWHN 1320
HUMNOKE KARN-FM 101.7
LITTLE ROCK KARN 920
PINE BLUFF KOTN 1490

Arizona
FLAGSTAFF KVNA 600
GLOBE KRXS 97.3
KINGMAN KAAA 1300
PHOENIX KF 550
SEDONA KAZM 780
SHOW LOW KVSL 1450
SIERRA VISTA KTAN 1420
TUCSON KNST 790
YUMA KBLU 560

California
BAKERSFIELD KNZR 1560
CARMEL VALLEY KIEZ 540
CHICO KPAY 1290
EL CENTRO KAMP 1430
EUREKA KGOE 1480
FORT BRAGG KDAC 1230
FRESNO KMJ 580
GRASS VALLEY KNCO 830
LOS ANGELES KFI 640
MARYSVILLE KMYC 1450
MERCED KYOS 1480
MODESTO KFIV 1360
MONTEREY KNRY 1240
MT SHASTA KWHO 102.3
NEEDLES KTOX 1340
PALM SPRINGS KNWQ 1140
PASA ROBLES KPRL 1230
PORT HUENEME KVTA 1520
PORTERVILLE KTIP 1450
QUINCEY KSPY-FM 100.3
REDDING KQMS 1400
SACRAMENTO KSTE 650
SAN DIEGO KOGO 600
SAN FRANCISCO KSFO 560
SANTA BARBARA KTMS 990
SANTA CRUZ KSCO 1080
SANTA MARIA KSMA 1240
SANTA ROSA KSRO 1350
UKIAH KUKI 1400
WATSONVILLE KOMY 1340
WILLITS KLLK 1250

Connecticutt
NEW HAVEN WELI 960

Colorado
ASPEN KNFO 106.1
COLORADO SPRINGS KVOR 740
DENVER KHOW 630
FORT COLLINS KCOL 1410
GRAND JUNCTION KNZZ 1100
KREMMLING KRKM 106.3
PUEBLO KCSJ 590

Delaware
REHOBOTH BEACH WGMD 92.7
WILMINGTON WDEL 1150

Florida
BROOKSVILLE WWJB 1450
DAYTONA BEACH WNDB 1150
FT MYERS WTLQ 1200
FORT PIERCE WJNX 1330
FT WALTON BEACH WFTW 1260
GAINESVILLE WSKY-FM 97.3
JACKSONVILLE WOKV 690
LAMONT WTAL-FM 105.7
LEESBURG WQBQ 1410
MARIANNA WTOT 980
MELBOURNE WMEL 920
MIAMI WIOD 610
NAPLES WINK 1240
NAPLES WNOG 1270
ORLANDO/TAMPA WFLA 540
PANAMA CITY WLTG 1430
PORT ST. LUCIE 1590
SARASOTA WSPB 1450
SEEBRING WWTK 730
ST AUGUSTINE WFOY 1240
WEST PALM BEACH WJNO 1040

Georgia
ALBANY WALG 5KW 1590
ATLANTA WGST 1KW 640
AUGUSTA WGAC 5KW 580
BLACKSHEAR WGIA 25/117W 1350
BRUNSWICK WGIG 5KW 1440
DALTON WBLJ 1KW 1230
GAINSVILLE WDUN 10KW 550
MACON WMAC 50KW 940

Hawaii
HILO KPUA 10KW 670
HONOLULU KHVH 10KW 830
LIHUE KQNG 1KW 570
WAILUKU KAOI 5KW 1110

Idaho
BOISE KIDO 5KW 630
BONNERS FERRY KBFI 1KW 1450
IDAHO FALLS KID 5KW 590
LEWISTON KOZE 5KW 950
POCATELLO KWIK 1KW 1240
SANDPOINT KSPT 1KW 1400
TWIN FALLS KLIX 5KW 1310
Illinois
BLOOMINGTON WJBC 1KW 1230
CARTERVILLE WJPF 1KW 1340
CHICAGO WLS 50/50 KW 890
DECATUR WSOY 1KW 1340
FAIRFIELD WFIW 1KW 1390
MT. VERNON WMIX 5KW 940
OTTAWA WCMY 500W 1430
PEORIA WMBD 5KW 1470
QUINCY WTAD 5KW 930
ROCKFORD WROK 5KW 1440
STERLING WSDR 500 1240
SPRINGFIELD WTAX 1KW 1240

Indiana
AUBURN WGLL 1KW 1570
BLOOMINGTON WGCL 5KW 1370
COLUMBUS WCSI 500 1010
EVANSVILLE WGBF 5/1KW 1280
FORT WAYNE WGL 5KW 1250
INDIANAPOLIS WIBC 10KW 1070
MARION WGOM 1/500W 860
NORTH VERNON WNVI 1KW 1460
PRINCETON WRAY 1KW 1250
RICHMOND WHON 500 930
SOUTH BEND WSBT 5KW 960
TELL CITY WTCJ 1KW 1230

Iowa
CEDAR FALLS KCNZ 500 1250
CEDAR FALLS KDNZ 10KW 1650
CEDAR RAPIDS WMT 5KW 600
DAVENPORT WOC 5KW 1420
FAIRFIELD KMCD 250 1570
FORT MADISON KBKB 1KW 1360
IOWA CITY KXIC 1KW 800
OELWEIN KOEL 5KW 950
OTTUMWA KLEE 500W 1480
SIOUX CITY KSCJ 5KW 1360
SPENCER KICD 1KW 1240

Kansas
CHANUTE KKOY 1KW 1460
PITTSBURG KKOW 10/5KW 860
SALINA KSAL 5/KW 1150
TOPEKA KMAJ 5KW 1440
WESTWOOD KCMO 50KW 710
WICHITA KFH 5KW 1330

Kentucky
HOPKINSVILLE WHOP 1KW 1230
LEXINGTON WLAP 5KW 630
LOUISVILLE WWKY 5KW 790
MURRAY WNBS 1KW 1340
OWENSBORO WOMI 1KW 1490
WHITESBURG WTCW 4.2/43W 920

Louisana
BATON ROUGE WJBO 1150
LAFAYETTE KPEL 1KW 1420
NEW ORLEANS WSMB 5KW 1350
SHREVEPORT KEEL 50KW 710

Maine
BANGOR/HOWLAND WVOM 100KW 103.9
PORTLAND WGAN 5KW 560
ROCKLAND WRKD 1KW 1450
SOUTH PORTLAND WGAN 5KW 560

[John F. Winston]

Part 2 of 2.

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Maryland
FREDERICK WFMD 5KW 930

Massachusetts
BOSTON WRKO 50KW 680
SPRINGFIELD WHYN 5/1KW 560
WORCESTER WTAG 5KW 580
WEST YARMOUTH WXTK 50KW 95.1
Michigan
ALPENA WATZ 1KW 1450
BATTLE CREEK WBCK 5/1KW 930
DETROIT/WINSOR CKLW 800
FLINT WFDF 5/1KW 910
GRAND RAPIDS WOOD 5KW 1300
IRON MOUNTAIN WMIQ 1KW 1450
JACKSON WKHM 1KW 970
KALAMAZOO WKZO 5KW 590
LANSING WJIM 1KW 1240
MUSKEGON WKBZ 10KW 1520
PETOSKEY WJML 10KW 1110
SAGINAW WSGW 5KW 790
SAULT STE MARIE WKNW 250 1400
TRAVERSE CITY WTCM 5KW 580
Minnesota
BEMIDJI KKBJ 5KW 1360
BRAINERD WWWI 5KW 1270
DETROIT LAKES KDLM 1KW 1340
DULUTH WEBC 5KW 560
EVELETH KRBT 1KW 1340
HIBBING WNMT 10KW 650
LITTLE FALLS KLTF 5KW 960
MANKATO KTOE 5KW 1420
MINN-ST PAUL KSTP 50KW 1500
ROCHESTER KROC 1KW 1340
SAINT CLOUD KNSI 1KW 1450
WINONA KWNO 1KW 1380

Missouri
AURORA KSWM 1KW 940
CAPE GIRARDEAU KZIM 5KW 960
COLUMBIA KFRU 1KW 1400
FARMINGTON KREI 1KW 800
FESTUS KJFF 1KW 1400
JEFFERSON CITY KWOS 1KW 1240
JOPLIN KQYX 10KW 1560
OSAGE BEACH KRMS 1KW 1150
SEDALIA KSIS 1KW 1050
SIKESTON KSIM 1KW 1400
SPRINGFIELD KWTO 5KW 560
ST LOUIS KTFK-FM 100KW 97.1
WASHINGTON KLPW 1KW 1220
WESTWOOD KS KCMO 50KW 710
Montana

BILLINGS KBLG 1KW 910
BOZEMAN KMMS 1KW 1450
GREAT FALLS KQDI 1KW 1450
HELENA KCAP 1KW 1340
KALISPELL KJJR 10KW 690
MISSOULA KGVO 5KW 1290

Nebraska
KEARNEY KGFW 1KW 1340
OMAHA KFAB 50KW 1110
LINCOLN KLIN 1400
SCOTTSBLUFF KOLT 5KW 1320

Nevada
ELKO KTSN 1KW 1340
LAS VEGAS KDWN 50KW 720
RENO KKOH 50KW 780

New Hampshire
MANCHESTER WGIR 5KW 610
PORTSMOUTH WGIP 5KW 1540
ROCHESTER WGIN 5KW 930

New Jersey
NEW BRUNSWICK WCTC 1KW 1450
FLEMINGTON WJHR 1KW 1040

New Mexico
ALAMAGORDO KINN 1KW 1270
ALBUQUERQUE KKOB 35KW 770
ARTESIA KSVP 1/250W 990
FARMINGTON KENN 5KW 1390
LAS CRUCES KOBE 1KW 1450
ROSWELL KBIM 5KW 910
RUIDOSO DOWNS KRUI 1KW 1490

New York
ALBANY WGY 50KW 810
BINGHAMTON WNBF 5KW 1290
BUFFALO WBEN 5KW 930
GENEVA WGVA 1KW 1240
GLENS FALLS WWSC 1KW 1450
KINGSTON WGHQ 5KW 920
NEW YORK WABC 50/50 KW 770
ROCHESTER WHTK 5KW 1280
SYRACUSE WSYR 5KW 570
UTICA WIBX 5KW 950
WATERTOWN WTNY 1KW 790

North Carolina
FAYETTEVILLE WFNC-AM 1KW 640
FAYETTEVILLE WFNC-FM 6KW 102.3
GOLDSBORO WGBR 5KW 1150
GREENSBORO WMFR 1KW 1230
HENDERSONVILLE WHKP 990/990 W 1450
LEXINGTON WLXN 5KW 1440
SALISBURY WSTP 1KW 1490
SOUTHERN PINES WEEB 10KW 990
WILMINGTON WAAV 5KW 980

North Dakota
FARGO KVOX 1KW 1280
GRAND FORKS KCNN 5KW 1590

Ohio
SHTABULA WFUN 5/1 KW 970
BELLAIRE WOMP 1KW 1290
ASHTABULA WFUN 5/1 KW 970
CANTON WHBC 5KW 1480
CINCINNATI WKRC 5KW 550
CLEVELAND WTAM 50KW 1100
COLUMBUS WTVN 5KW 610
DAYTON WONE 5KW 980
LIMA WIMA 1KW 1150
MANSFIELD WMAN 1KW 1400
MARION WMRN 1KW 1490
STEUBENVILLE WSTV 1KW 1340
TOLEDO WSPD 5KW 1370
YOUNGSTOWN WKBN 5KW 570

Oklahoma
BARTLESVILLE KWON 1KW 1400
ENID KCRC 1KW 1390
OKLAHOMA CITY KTOK 5KW 1000
Oregon
ASTORIA KAST 1KW 1370
BAKER CITY KBKR 1KW 1490
BEND KBND 10KW 1110
COQUILLE KWRO 5KW 630
CORVALLIS KLOO 1KW 1340
ENTERPRISE KWVR 1KW 1340
EUGENE KPNW 50KW 1120
GRANTS PASS KRRM 94.7
KLAMATH FALLS KAGO 5KW 1150
LA GRAND KLBM 1KW 1450
LEBANON/HANOVER 1KW 1400
MEDFORD KCMX 1KW 880
PORTLAND KEX 50KW 1190
ROSEBURG KTBR 1KW 950

Pennsylvania
ALLENTOWN WAEB 3.8/1.5KW 790
ALTOONA WFBG 5KW 1290
BEAVER FALLS WBVP 1KW 1230
Chambersburg WCHA 1/96W 800
CLARION WWCH 1/36W 1300
STATE COLLEGE WBLF 1/74W 970
ERIE WLKK 1KW 1400
HARRISBURG WHP 5KW 580
HAZLETON WILP 5KW 1300
MEADVILLE WMGW 1KW 1490
MILTON WMLP 1KW 1380
NEW CASTLE WKST 1KW 1200
PHILADELPHIA WPHT 50KW 1210
PHILIPSBURG WPHB 5KW 1260
PITTSBURGH WPTT 5KW 1360
PITTSON WILK 5KW 980
READING WEEU IKW 830
SCRANTON WGBI 1KW 910
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[Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)]

On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:59:35 -0800, "John F. Winston"
<john...@mlode.com> dropped trou in alt.fan.art-bell and left the
following steaming pile:

>Subject: Gilliland Will Be On Art Bell Show On Friday. Mar. 8, 2001.
>
> Here is some information about a person who respect highly. He
>will be on the Art Bell show tomorrow night talking about the many
>UFOs that appear over his property in Oregon.
>
>.....................................................................
>.....................................................................

Those UFO's wouldn't have been in the vicinity of his still, or
anything, would they?
--
V.G.

(This sig file contains not less than 80% recycled SPAM)

"If you do just one thing, you've done something." - Land Rover advertising slogan

[John F. Winston]

Subject: The State Of John Winston For 2001. Mar. 10, 2001.

As most of you know we have a State Of The Nation speech given
by the president to let us know how our nation is doing. We have
a State Of The State speech by Governors to let us know how the
particular state we live in is doing. I give The State Of John
Winston postings to let people know how I'm doing. I know this
will sound like I have a super ego in doing this but some people
want to know.

As I have stated in the past, it is my opinion that there is
such a thing as Chemtrails that are being sprayed throughout the
world. I am normally very healthy and in the past have climbed to
the top of Mt. Shasta, run the Bay To Breakers race two times which
is a 10 k race and also run the 4 mile race. I managed to get
through them OK. Each time I promised myself that I'm going to
get in better shape the next time I try something like that. I
also promised myself that the next time I go hiking or running
I'll take a helicopter. During the last 6 years I've not been to
a doctor or even know a doctor.

I have already reported that about 2 months ago I made the mistake
of staying outside fishing during the time that Chemtrails were
being laid down. They were pretty thick and there was even weird
spider web type substances coming down with the each web being split
into about 4 or more parts on one end. Immediately after this I
developed upper respiratory breathing problems. My lungs were
filling up with clear water, not plegm. I would wake up strangling
about 10 or more times a night and the only way I could breath was
to emit a low frequency noise from my mouth that would vibrate the
lungs and get some air through them. The sounded and was a groan. I
finally got to doing this so loud that a person couldn't sleep even
in the next story of the house from me. I was on the second story
of my house and my friend was on the first story.

I next decided to go and see the doctor. They EX-rayed me and
sure enough my lungs were filled with water. They next decided to
send my to have an EKG to check out my heart. It was found that
that my heart was beating to fast (135 pulses per minute), my heart
was too weak, it was fibulating and unregular. The valves weren't
doing too well either. My blood was too thick. Later on they found
that my blood pressure level was too high. After checking this
if shook up the nurse so much that I was put in a wheel chair because
they figured I was going to have a heart attack any second. They later
found that my heart was too big for my body size. About the only
things that was normal was my cloistral level which was 140. For
me in the past it runs about 210.

The doctor hitched me up to a scope and administered some medicine
to me intravenously and go me to operate nearly normal. They
gave me some water pills that caused me to urinate about 16 times
in a short period of time. I lost 5 lbs. in about 10 hours time.
They then gave me another shot to replace the potassium that I was
loosing. This removed the water from my lungs and I could breath
OK again.

Next they gave me Coumadin (which I understand is a rat poison,
but then strychnine is also a rat poison and they give it to
people who have heart problems.) After about 2 more months of taking
this with about 12 blood test with a needle they got my Coumadin level
to read steadily between the numbers 2 and 3. So now my blood
is at the thickness so it will travel through my heart and I not have
a heart attack.

I take another pill that slows down my pulse rate to about 82
which is normal for me. I took some blood pressure medicine that
lower my blood pressure so it is now normal.

I went in to get some glasses later and the eye doctor told
me that I had lost the use of my my right eye due to Monacular
Degeneration and that it was incurable. Later my doctor told
me that if I can get my blood functioning OK then that problem
will go away but I still have it now. I'm hoping to correct this
soon and it appears to be a little better.

After all of this my doctor, who I have the greatest respect for,
told me that she would like for me to go through the process called
Cardio Section. It laymen terms that means Electric Shock Treatment.
This she wanted to do so that my heart would become regular and
not have fibulations. I made the mistake of letting some of my
friends know about this and they really gave me a lot of kidding
about going under the paddles. At the time I didn't know how they
were going to do this to me in the hospital.

They had me sign a lot of forms saying how that this procedure
sometimes causes a person to have a heart attach and even death.
They figured about 1% don't make it. So I figured I'd do it anyway.
They even warn you that this sometimes burns you where the
electrodes are attached.

On the day of the procedure I showed up and I'm feeling pretty good.
They put me on a table and hitched me up to a scope that shows my
heart beat. The doctor looks at it and sure enough I still had
an irregular heart beat and fibulations. They next put an IV in
my arm so them can administer some drug to me to knock me out.
They put a thing on the end of my finger to monitor something also.
Next they put about 6 more electrodes on me plus all the ones you
need to have a EKG. Last they put the two big electrodes, each
about 5 inches around. One of them on the right side of the chest
and one of the back left side of the body. These would do the
same job as the paddles used by emergency people.

They put a air mask on my nose and I breathed some air for about
30 minutes that smelled like rotting hay in a barnyard. They then
told me that during the time that they administered the drug to knock
me out they would also give me oxygen just in case I didn't breath
for a while.

So this was it. They administered the pain killing anesthesia to
me by putting it into the IV. They turned on the oxygen and I
was out like a light in about 2 seconds. I didn't feel or know
anything from then on. They had kept me sedated for 2 minutes
then they they administered the shock into the electrodes. Then they
were going to bring me out of this after about 3 minutes. If they
didn't get the results they wanted then they would do it again.

When I woke up after being unconscious for the full 5 minutes,
the doctor came over and told me, "It's a success." I was a pretty
happy, droggy guy. He told me that if I came back in 2 months and
took my Coumadin during that time and was still Ok, then I would
not have to take any Coumadin anymore. They next gave me another
EKG test and let me go home.

If you have this done to you and you are a male with hair on your
chest, I would recommend that you shave the hair off of you chest
before having all of this done to you. When they pulled of the
electrode in the front, it transplanted a great deal of my hair.
I feel pretty good after all of this. It appears to me that they
did burn me a little bit on my chest but then nobody is perfect.
I woke up the next morning feeling that I had been electrocuted but
then I guess that what happened. I'm glad to be a alive.

So the moral of this story is, don't go fishing in the Chemtrails.

John Winston. john...@mlod.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: How To Loose Weight. Mar. 12, 2001.

Here is something that was sent to me. It may be a hoax just to
get your money. I won't be telling you how much it is but then you
can find out that by sending an e-mail to them. Here is the
information as it was sent to me.

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From: kwarj...@aol.com
Subject: Hi, this is for you

A friend of yours has recommended that we send you some information
about our Hunza Diet Bread. (JW I personally doubt if anyone sent
them my name. They probably just send this sort of thing to
everyone.) If you aren't interested and would like to be taken off
our mailing list. You don't have to do a thing, because this will
be the only email you receive from us.

Based on 2000 Year Old Recipe
Housewife In New York Accidentally
Invents A Bread That Miraculously
Stops Your Appetite And Hunger

HUNZA DIET BREAD is said to beat all fad diets hands down. It's
the fastest, painless way to lose weight.
By Allen Perry,
Special feature writer (Champlain, NY)

Here is a message to all you genius research scientists trying to
find a painless way for people to lose weight. It's been done!
Not by a scientist, but, by a housewife.
Being hailed here as the weight loss method of the century, HUNZA
DIET BREAD is rolling out like a juggernaught!
The bread was discovered by accident, Irene Sette, wife of a
health researcher, was trying to duplicate a 2,000-year-old, high
roughage bread used by the little known civilization of Hunza.
The Hunzas were being studied by her husband.
The Hunzas are considered to be the healthiest people on earth.
Their bread is the main part of their diet. Irene was trying to
make this bread good tasting so that her children would eat it.
Irene succeeded in coming up with a recipe that was absolutely
delicious. Everybody loved it. But, then a startling discovery
was made. Just one or two very small pieces of bread would ruin a
person's appetite for 5 or 6 hours!
At first, she became upset at this drawback. But then while
talking it over with her husband. Scott Sette, it hit them. This
was not a drawback at all, but a huge benefit. It was the
ultimate weapon in the fight against obesity that researchers
have been trying to discover for decades.
Irene had apparently come up with the first natural and healthy
appetite inhibitor. Or was she the first? Could this be a
designed bread invented thousands of years ago?
Mr. Sette is a researcher for The New York Health Institute. He
had been studying the Hunzas for years. Now he had some questions
that needed answered. The Hunzas have little food in the winter.
Was the bread an ancient discovery of a hunger suppressant which
also provided healthful nourishment to the body during winter
months?
I held an interview with Mr. and Mrs. Sette in their lovely home
in Champlain, NY which is located right next to the Canadian
border in Upstate New York.
Upon arrival my greeting was warm and friendly and I immediately
felt right at home and everyone was on a first name basis. I also
noticed that the Sette's were exceptionally trim, fit and
healthy. Our interview took place in the kitchen with the HUNZA
DIET BREAD being prepared for me to taste.
It smelled delicious.
Question: "Scott, to what do you attribute the powerful appetite
inhibiting properties of your wife's bread?"
Answer: "Well, Allen, right now we're in the stage of making
educated guesses. Theory 1 is that Irene, while experimenting
with the bread recipe accidentally combined natural food
substances which react together to form a natural appetite or
hunger inhibitor.
There are also facts being uncovered that support Theory 2 that
this bread was designed in ancient times for the express purpose
of tiding people over, when food supplies were scarce. Let's
start with the Hunzas who are the healthiest people on earth. I
consider their bread to be one of the main reasons for this."
Question: "Before you do that, Scott, I would like to give the
reader a little background of the Hunzas. I have here a feature
story which has been published in many major newspapers
throughout North America." Here is an excerpt from the article:
"The Hunzas exist isolated from the rest of the world in the
Himalayan Mountains where they live to be 110 to 120 years old.
They have no cancer, heart attacks, or other major disorders to
speak of. They are active and fit to the very end. Men father
children at 100 years and older. Overweight people are unheard of
because they have the perfect weight control system."
The story then relates research and fact finding visits to Hunza
by such notables as Queen Elizabeth, Art Linkletter and N.B.C.,
The National Geographic Magazine, Frank Shor, Lowell Thomas, Jr.,
Chou En Lai of China. Visitors to Hunza all came back with the
same identical description of the Hunza people:
"Hunza men are straight, tall, broad-shouldered, deep-chested,
slim-waisted, heavy-legged, and have full heads of hair. Hunza
women are straight, tall, slim-waisted, developed bosoms, perfect
complexions, and luxuriant hair. Both men and women have perfect
teeth and eyesight even at 100 years and older! They are neat,
clean, intelligent and friendly. And you can't find an overweight
person.
Hunza women at 80 look no older than North American women of 40.
Fatigue is virtually unknown. Hunza men over 90 years old
repeatedly walk the mountain trail of 65 miles from the town of
Gilgit with a full pack and immediately start to work in the
fields again!"
The article then relates an eye-opening experiment by the world
renowned, brilliant English surgeon, Dr. Robert McCarrison, who
tested the merits of the Hunza diet in a controlled, scientific
experiment on 5,000 laboratory rats.
He took the one group of normal rats and put them on the Hunza
diet. He then took a second group and put them on a typical
English diet. After several years the rats on the Hunza diet
showed absolutely no disease, had proper weight, and were
completely healthy beyond normal.
The rats on the English diet were overweight, diseased and had
tumors, ulcers, bad teeth, crooked spines, falling hair, skin
disorders, heart trouble, kidney trouble, glandular trouble and
they were very hostile. He then took these diseased rats who had
been on the English diet and put them on the Hunza diet. They
all became well!
"O.K., now we can continue. So, you feel that the Hunza bread may
be "by design" both a hunger suppressant and a super health
food?"
Answer: "Yes, but if it is, there's a question, who designed it?
Now the Hunzas were originally soldiers of Alexander the Great.
This bread may have been designed for the use of his far
traveling armies. It would make sense. It's the most compact form
of hunger satisfaction and nutrition I know of.
But, further investigation brought about some really wild
possibilities. According to traces of Macedonian Heritage, this
bread could have originated in Egypt over 5,000 years ago. As you
know, the Egyptians were capable of doing many things that modern
science cannot duplicate.
But getting back to the focal point of this matter, regardless of
where it came from, we have it. And, it's tested and it works."
Question: "That bread smells delicious. And since we're going to
discuss the bread, let's ask the discoverer. Irene, how did it
all start?"
Answer: "Well, as I mentioned. Scott had been investigating the
Hunzas for many years and was convinced that their bread was one
of the major reasons for their good health. So he asked me to
duplicate it and use it at home.
I thought it would be easy at first but it turned into a
nightmare. The recipes that visitors to Hunza came back with
were either too general or did not turn into bread at all. So, I
decided to make a list of all the key food elements in Hunza and
began experimenting, trying to come up with a bread that would
taste good so that our kids would like it too."
Question: "How long did it take before you were successful?"
Answer: "Oh, after about six months of trial and error I finally
hit on a perfect batch one summer morning. Everyone in the family
shared some of the bread and raved about how good it was.
With no exaggeration, it was the best bread we had ever tasted.
After eating the bread, nobody had an appetite that day and the
kids weren't hungry for lunch which was very unusual but we
didn't think much about it at the time.
Then we started to notice that whenever we ate the bread during
the day we weren't hungry for our evening meal. It got so that I
wouldn't allow anyone to eat the bread unless it was with our
evening meal. But, then I found that when I served it at dinner,
everybody ate a much smaller amount of their meal.
It got to the point that if we were going out to eat or if I was
cooking a special dinner, the bread was not allowed for that day.
I was even beginning to get upset that my delicious bread had
turned into a problem because it devoured everyone's appetite and
hunger."
Question: "How long did it take you to realize that what you
really had was the all-time weapon against obesity?"
Answer: "You know it was quite a long time. Three or four
months. And surprisingly, my husband was involved in obesity
research at the time. Also, both of us had trouble with being
overweight.
There it was right in front of our noses; but, we were too close
to it, to see it ourselves. Then one day we were talking
to a friend I grew up with who was telling us that she was taking
prescription diet pills to help reduce her appetite.
It hit both of us at once. We jumped up and said. "Boy, have we
got the thing for you!" That was it.
We both were ready to kick ourselves for not seeing it before.
Both my husband and I started using the bread as a weight loss
device and began losing weight like crazy, much faster than any
weight loss method we ever tried, and, we have tried them all
believe me. We then decided to call it HUNZA DIET BREAD."
Question: "Scott, according to your research, exactly how does it
compare to some of the fad diets such as liquid protein?"
Answer: "There's no comparison. Those diets are in another
league, the minor league, next to our HUNZA DIET BREAD.
Fad diets such as The Zone and Protein Power are not only
ineffective, they're downright dangerous.
When I say they are ineffective I mean; that either a person will
not stick with them because they are uncomfortable or when the
diet is over they'll put the weight right back on.
All of us lifetime dieters know of the miseries of the high
protein and liquid protein (or milkshake) diets. They seem okay
for the first few days, then they become repulsive. You get
"full" on these diets but not satisfied. Then they bring on
unpleasant complications that can jeopardize your health.
The liquid protein diet is the worst of all of them. This diet is
really dangerous to your health and very unpleasant. Some of the
side effects include: fatigue, dizzy spells, bad breath, hair
loss, oily skin, constipation and cardiovascular disorders.
All that stuff they tell you about liquid protein is complete
nonsense. What it really amounts to is fasting. But, they tell
you that "in fasting the body attacks the body protein first."
That's hogwash.
Fasting is an effective and healthy way to lose weight which has
been successfully used by the greatest men in history for over
2.000 years. The Hunzas fast regularly and they live to be 120
years old.

[John F. Winston]

Part 2 of 2.

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Liquid protein actually ruins a fast. The only thing you do when
you add liquid protein is cause problems. You have a less
effective fast and the excess protein wreaks havoc with the body.
All liquid protein diets amount to nothing more than a scheme to
sell liquid protein."
Question: "I know what you're talking about, I'm what you call a
"lifetime dieter" myself. These fad diets are just that fads,
because as soon as people find out how bad they are, they
disappear.
Now, I like hearing about a diet that's been around for at least
2,000 years. That rings of stability. (At this point Irene placed
the hot bread on a bread board. It looked very appetizing to say
the least.) Tell me about the advantages of HUNZA DIET BREAD. I
will get a piece, won't I?"
Answer: "Of course, just as soon as it cools a little. There are
primary and secondary benefits. The biggest benefit I can think
of is that the dieter just doesn't suffer AT ALL! It's such a
natural and powerful appetite inhibitor.
This bread satisfies both appetite and hunger. And it does it
with only 84 calories (100 calories spread with butter) as
effectively as most 1800 calorie full meals.
We define appetite and hunger like this: appetite is mainly the
desire you get for food even when you know you're really not
hungry. It's that craving in your mouth you get that's known as
the cold mouth feeling.
It can also be present even though you've just eaten. Your
stomach may be full but you still crave something else. This is
the feeling you get with a protein diet. You can stuff
yourself with protein until you're ready to bust but the cold
mouth craving is still there.
Hunger on the other hand is best described as those pangs of
hunger you get or that empty feeling in your stomach that lets
you know you really need to eat something rather than simply
wanting to eat for the enjoyment of it.
After a slice or two of HUNZA DIET BREAD you eliminate both
appetite and hunger. You feel satisfied and full. And, it lasts
depending on the person up to 7 hours. For both of us it lasts 6
to 7 hours."
Question: "What is the secondary benefit?"
Answer: "Well, first of all each slice of HUNZA DIET BREAD is
close to being a balanced meal in itself. So right off the bat
you don't strip your body of nutrition or give it too much of one
thing or too little of another.
Second, not only is the bread nutritional, but it contains some
proven good health producing foods of the Hunzas. Also, it is
high in roughage or fiber. It passes through your digestive
system quickly so the actual absorbed calories are less. You
also become very regular eating this bread."
Question: "IRENE, tell me what it's like to eat a piece of the
bread, that is, what do you experience yourself?"
Answer: "OK., let's start with the eating. We suggest eating it
while it's still warm, with a little butter. It's a heavy bread.
I only need one slice, my husband usually has 2 slices. Eating
it is the first delightful experience you'll have. It tastes
better than any bread that we've ever eaten. Along with the
taste, being warm makes it truly satisfying to eat.
Now, here's what its like hour by hour after you eat the bread.
Hour 1 and 2. Each minute after you finish eating the bread
seems like a build-up of a "fullness" feeling. It's just as
though you have kept on eating. You keep getting fuller and
fuller. Both your appetite and hunger are very satisfied. You
don't crave anything more.
Hour 3. In hour 3 something else happens. The thought of food
just doesn't appeal to you. It's not an unpleasant experience,
quite the opposite. But, you don't have a desire for food in any
way, shape or form.
Hour 4 and 5. You no longer have a feeling of being stuffed
or turned off by the thought of eating but, there's a kind of
nothing feeling. You don't want to eat, and you don't crave
anything. It's just as I said, a sort of comfortable "nothing"
stage.
Hour 6 and 7. Toward the end of the 6th hour you begin to
get mildly hungry which then slowly increases into the 6th
and 7th hour."
Question: "Now, all that for only the cost of 100 to 200
calories. You can't get that performance out of a 2,000 calorie
meal can you?"
Answer: "Right. Now you've got the gist of the whole thing.
Here's another little known thing about standard lunch hours and
dinners. Let's say you eat a milk shake, hamburger and french
fries for lunch, that's over a 1,000 calories. There's a lot of
sugar and salt in that meal.
When you're done the first thing that happens is that your body
shoots a large amount of insulin into your system to counteract
the sugar. Your blood sugar is lowered and within an hour you
feel hungry again and start snacking. On top of that the salt has
made you thirsty and you gulp water or soft drinks and retain the
fluids.
On the other hand, if you try a "Weight watchers" lunch, or
similar balanced diet, you'd have to eat between 400 to 600
calories of cottage cheese, lean meat, and eggs to feel
reasonably full. But, you would not be satisfied and almost
immediately you'd be hungry again and need to consume more of the
same.
You can't win. There's no diet that exists where you don't suffer
in some way."
Question: "Scott, exactly what kind of a program do you go on to
lose weight with HUNZA DIET BREAD?"
Answer: "There are many ways to do it. This is another benefit.
It's flexible. Here are some typical plans. Each slice of bread
is thinly spread with butter for a total of 100 calories.
Plan A: Eat 1 slice every 5 hours of the 16 hours you're awake.
That's 3 slices which total 300 calories. This is the fastest
way to lose weight I know of. It works faster for me than any
high protein diet.
Why? You have more energy and burn more calories. Second, the
high fiber bread keeps your digestive system regular. Third, your
body stays healthy. A healthy body means a properly functioning
metabolic system.
Plan B: Really gorge yourself with the bread. Two slices every
four hours for a total of 8 slices but only 800 calories. You'll
feel full all day. In fact, I doubt many people could eat this
much of the bread.
Plan C: Eat a slice in the morning for breakfast and a slice 3
hours before your dinner and you will eat a great deal less.
Plan D: Eat a slice of HUNZA DIET BREAD, 10 minutes before you
eat your regular meal. When we do this we eat only a fraction,
such as 1/4 of what we would normally eat. If we wait longer than
10 minutes we don't want to eat at all.
Plan E: Eat the bread at the end of meals that don't fill you
up enough, such as low calorie meals. This is a perfect way to
use the bread. You eat a low calorie meal, enjoy it, then eat a
slice or two of bread to fill you up. Perfect! No suffering and
no urge to snack.
Plan F: Alternate Plan A, B, C, D. We recommend an alternation
of the plans, but some people who just want to get the weight off
as soon as possible will use Plan A exclusively."
Question: "Yes, Irene, you have a comment?"
Answer: "Yes, you can really think up all kinds of ways to use
the bread. For instance, as a housewife it's harder to diet
because you have to prepare food for the family. I eat my bread
exactly 2 hours before I am going to prepare a meal. That way
when I prepare the meal I am in the 3rd hour where food just
doesn't hold any interest for me. No way am I tempted to nibble
or taste."
Question: "Irene, you all look very healthy. Is it because of
the bread?"
Answer: "That's a big part of it. You feel better and look
better after you start eating this bread. You know my daughter,
besides having a weight problem, also had a mild case of acne,
and since she started eating the bread her skin has completely
cleared up."
Question: "Scott, how many pounds can you lose a week
using this bread?"
Answer: "The exact number of pounds depends on the person's
size and metabolic rate. Using the bread I lost 11 pounds and
Irene lost 7 pounds in the first two weeks.
The point is, as I said earlier, that our experience shows that
you lose weight faster on this method than any other method that
I know exists."
Question: "That's a lot of weight to lose in such a short period
of time. Irene, I see you're cutting the bread. It's strange to
say, it even looks like it would fill you up quickly."
Answer: "You'll soon see for yourself. Take a piece. Spread a
little butter on it and enjoy.
I had a slice with butter. The bread was medium brown and it was
a heavy bread. It had a very appealing grainy texture and when I
spread the butter on the warm slice it melted into the bread and
made my mouth water.
I took a bite. The delicious taste of the bread filled my mouth.
You could tell that it was hearty, full of substance, chewy, and
I could just tell it was good for you. Perhaps our bodies trigger
an instinct that lets us know what's good or bad for us.
White bread gives you an empty feeling like you're biting into
cotton compared to this bread. It was indeed the best bread I
ever tasted. I devoured two slices and felt very full and
satisfied. I looked at the time. It was 1:25 pm."
Question: "You weren't kidding were you? That bread is out of
this world. It just gives you what you crave. I can't put my
finger on it."
Answer: "The best part is yet to come. Let me know what you
experience by calling us in about 6 hours."
Question: "I'll tell you my appetite is just about gone right
now. I see what you mean by the build up effect. I feel like I
have just eaten a full course meal. But now, how can other people
get the bread?"
Answer: "We originally felt the best way to make the bread
available to the public was to contract with a reputable food
processor to prepare and package the bread and then distribute it
for us. But that turned out to be unbelievably expensive and the
red tape involved in getting a food product on the market wasn't
something we wanted to get involved with.
So we decided to just publish the recipe for anyone else who'd
like to make it at home." To order a copy, all you have to do is
write "HUNZA DIET BREAD" on a piece of paper and send it along
with a check or money order in the amount of $-.00 to:

Westport Publishing
1320 Route 9
Champlain, N.Y. 12919
Question: "Sounds great! And thank you for your hospitality it
was very nice meeting you."
Answer: "You're very welcome." At 7:30 p.m. I phoned the Sette's
with the results of my post bread eating hours. It went like
clockwork, exactly as they had told me. I wasn't hungry for 6
hours. Their bread really is great. I am truly impressed."

JW I have read about these people that live a long time in the
high country and it's seems that they sometiimes drink what is
called Glacier Milk. This is water that comes from the high
mountain glaciers and as it comes down through the rock and
laza it picks up minieral which make the people healthy. This
water also doesn't have the chemicals that we put into our
water.

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Recipe For Hunza Bread. Nov. 13, 2001.

Here is a free recipe for some Hunza Bread. I'm going to see how
it compares to the type bread that the recipe was being sold through
the Internet.

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Getting
http://www.utopiasprings.com/chapatti.htm

Hunza Bread Recipies
Hunza Stone Ground Chapatti Diet Bread
Hunza Chapatti Breads
Typical Hunza Bread is made fresh each day from stone ground grains,
primarily, wheat, barley, buckwheat and millet.
(Note nice stamped designs in several of the loaves)
These delicious flat unleavened breads are an important part of a
nutritious diet of grains, fruits, dried fruits, and veggies.
They drink substantial amounts of "Glacial Milk" which is milky
colored water fresh melted from base of glaciers, rich in rock flour
and minerals.
A Typical Hunza Chapatti Bread Recipe Is
Kamali:
2 cups of stone ground whole wheat flour, or mix of
flours 1/2 teaspoon vegetable salt or iodized sea salt
(Although they have rich mineral diet, iodine is rare away from
marine locations and fish.)
1/4 to 1 cup glacier milk
Blend flour and salts together. Stir in just enough water to make a
very stiff dough. Knead dough on a lightly floured surface until
smooth and elastic.
Cover with a wet cloth, set aside for 30 minutes. Break dough into
one inch balls.
Roll into very thin rounds, about 8 inches in diameter. Bake for
10 minutes on a hot lightly greased griddle over a low heat. Turn
often. Makes 20 Chapattis.
A typical Hunza Millet Bread Recipe:
1 cup Millet flour
1 cup grated carrots
1 tablespoon honey
1 tablespoon vegetable salt/iodized salt
2 tablespoons vegetable oil
2 eggs
Combine in Bowl:
Flour carrots oil honey and salt. Mix well, then stir 3/4 cup of
boiling hot water into the mixture. Beat the egg yolks well adding
2 tbs. of cold water, continue to beat and then add to the mixture.
Fold in stiffly beated eggs and bake in a hot oiled pan at 350 F for
about 40 minutes.

JW I've got some property on the sides of Mt. Shasta and the well
that I have an submersible pump in, continues to pump water that
has a little bit of white substance in it. This water comes from a
big glacier on, or near the top of Mt. Shasta. A little bit below
my property there is a large spring that runs, year round with the
same type of water. It looks like Glacier milk to me.

John Winston.

[John F. Winston]

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Getting
http://www.utopiasprings.com/chapatti.htm

same type of water. It looks like Glacial milk to me.

John Winston.

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Hanza Diet Bread May Be A Hoax. Mar. 14, 2001.

Here is some information from a person who says that the information
I gave out about Diet Hanza Bread is a hoax. This person is probably
correct but then I've had people tell me something is a hoax when
it's not really a hoax. Please be wise and not send these people
I wrote about any money. I sometimes make mistakes and this really
looks like one of them.

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From: J
Subject: Hunza Diet Bread
Dear Mr Winston,
I e-mailed the address that was listed in your post to iufo and even
spoke by I'm with the person at that address and they said they have
nothing to do with Hunza Diet Bread. You know I've respected a lot
of things I've seen you post and wanted to say that for people like
myself that have a hard time losing weight and are looking for
something that finally helps, this was a disappointment. I thought
I would give you a heads-up regarding this so you don't post that
same e-mail again and lead someone else into false hope.
I hope I haven't offended you in any way, I've never written to
someone I don't know before.
Have a good day.
Sincerely
F

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Foot In Mouth Disease. Mar. 16, 2001.

Some people may say that I have foot-in-the-mouth disease but that
is just disinformation. For the last 10 or more years I have been
a card-carrying. died in the wool, vegetarian. Before that I was
a road-kill artist. If you don't know what that is then please
don't ask. The following information is from a person who doesn't
think it is a good idea to eat meat. This information is pretty
gross so if you plan to eat meat in the future you might be advised
to not read the following. I do eat fish. Let's now see what he has
to say.

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From: Y
Subject: Mad Cowboy
http://www.madcowboy.com/
excerpt (first 3 pages)
MAD COWBOY

Plain Truth From the Cattlerancher Who Won't Eat Meat by HOWARD LYMAN
with Glen Merzer

I am a fourth-generation dairy farmer and cattle rancher. I grew up
on a dairy farm in Montana, & I ran a feed lot operation there for
20 years. I know firsthand how cattle are raised and how meat is
produced in this country.
Today I am president of EarthSave International, an organization that
promotes plant-based eating.
Sure, I used to enjoy my steaks as much as the next guy. But if
you knew what I know about what goes into them and what they can do
to you, you'd probably be a vegetarian like me. And believe it or not,
as a pure vegetarian now who consumes no animal products at all, I can
tell you that these days I enjoy eating more than ever. If you're a
meat-eater in America, you have a right to know that you have something
in common with most of the cows you've eaten. They've eaten meat, too.
When a cow is slaughtered, about half of it by weight is not eaten by
humans: the intestines and their contents, the head, hooves, and horns,
as well as bones and blood. These are dumped into giant grinders at
rendering plants, as are the entire bodies of cows and other farm
animals known to be diseased. Rendering is a $2.4 billion-a-year
industry, processing forty billion pounds of dead animals a year. There
is simply no such thing in America as an animal too ravaged by disease,
too ca-cerous, or too putrid to be welcomed by the embracing arms of
the renderer. Another staple of the renderer's diet, in addition to farm
animals, is euthanized pets - the six or seven million dogs and cats
that are killed in animal shelters every year. The city of Los Angeles
alone, for example, sends some two hundred tons of euthanized cats and
dogs to a rendering plant every month. Added to the blend are the
euthanized catch of animal control agencies, and roadkill. (Roadkill is
not collected daily, and in the summer, the better roadkill collection
crews can generally smell it before they can see it.) When the gruesome
mix is ground and steam-cooked, the lighter, fatty material floating to
the top gets refined for use in such products as cosmetics, lubricants,
soaps, candles, and waxes. The heavier protein material is dried and
pulverized into a brown powder - about a quarter of which consists of
fecal material. The powder is used as an additive to almost all pet food
as well as to livestock feed. Farmers call it "protein concentrates." In
1995, five million tons of processed slaughterhouse leftovers were sold
for animal feed in the United States. I used to feed tons of the stuff
to my own livestock. It never concerned me that I was feeding cattle to
cattle.
In August 1997, in response to growing concern about the spread of
bovine spongiform encephalopathy (or Mad Cow disease), the F-A issued a
new regulation that bans the feeding of ruminant protein (protein from
cud-chewing animals) to ruminants; therefore, to the extent that the
regulation is actually enforced, cattle are no longer quite the
cannibals that we had made them into. They are no longer eating solid
parts of other cattle, or sheep, or goats. They still munch, however, on
ground-up dead horses, dogs, cats, pigs, chickens, and turkeys, as well
as bl-od and fecal matter of their own species and that of chickens.
About 75 percent of the ninety million beef cattle in America are
routinely given feed that has been "enriched" with rendered animal
parts. The use of animal excrement in feed is common as well, as
livestock operators have found it to be an efficient way of disposing of
a portion of the 1.6 million tons of livestock wastes generated annually
by their industry. In Arkansas, for example, the average farm feeds over
fifty tons of chicken litter to cattle every year. One Arkansas cattle
farmer was quoted in U.S. News & World Report as having recently
purchased 745 tons of litter collected from the floors of local
chicken-raising operations. After mixing it with small amounts of
soybean bran, he then feeds it to his eight hundred head of cattle,
making them, in his words, "fat as butterballs." He explained, "If I
didn't have chicken litter, I'd have to sell half my heard. Other feeds
are too expensive." If you are a meat-eater, understand that this is the
food of your food.
We don't know all there is to know about the extent to which the
consumption of diseased or unhealthy animals causes diseases in humans,
but we do know that some diseases - rabies, for example - are
transmitted from the host animal to humans. We know that the common food
poisonings brought on by such organisms as the prevalent E. Coli
bacteria, which results from fecal contamination of food, causes the
death of nine thousand Americans a year and that about 80 percent of
food poisonings come from tainted meat. And now we can also be virtually
certain, from the tragedy that has already afflicted Britain, that Mad
Cow disease can "jump species" and give rise to a new variant of the
always fatal, brain-wasting Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in humans. For all
too many humans, the first decision they consciously make about their
health is the stark one between by-pass surgery and angioplasty, or
between chemotherapy and radiation. In reality, however, we knowingly
make choices every day that can either lead us toward these grim
options, or else toward happier ones. We do so, of course, every time we
decide what fuel to put in our bodies.
To make our choices informed ones, we have to start with the facts.
Scribner Publishing, June '98; 2nd printing Feb '00. Available at some
Barnes & Noble, Borders & Whole Foods stores, or buy the book on this
site. For autographed copies send $-0 plus $- postage to: Voice for a
Viable Future, 11288 Ventura Blvd., #202A, Studio City, CA 91604.
818-509-1255
For over 200 hundred years, our country's legal systems have refused
to recognize "product libel." People can maliciously libel a human
being and be required to pay damages; but not inanimate products such as
Corvairs, Pinto fuel tanks, asbestos, the Dalkon Shield, fruits,
vegetables and meat products. Robust debate and criticism have turned
surmises and suspicions and anathemas into discoveries or recognition of
facts and truths. One has only to look back at our history and see
how the dissenters of the past -- criticizing tobacco, coal dust,
useless over-the-counter drugs and a variety of health-damaging food
additives and pesticides -- have been proven right again and again. Now,
it seems, corporations want to do what King George III, foreign
dictators and bad domestic political bosses were unable to do -- shut up
the American people. The realistic objective of the frivolous
"veggie-libel" statutes and lawsuits is not money; it is to send a
chilling message to millions of people that they better keep their
opinions to themselves.
---Ralph Nader 4/29/98
http://www.madcowboy.com/
Of One Heart

JW They don't call them slaughter houses for nothing.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: In A Few Minutes W. Thomas Will Be On Art Bell.
Mar. 14,2001

In a few minutes they will be talking about Chemtrail on the Art
Bell Radio Talk Show.

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From: l
Subject: New Chemtrail Breakthrough to be Announced on
Art Bell
The following is taken from William Thomas' website at:
http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Willthomas/homepage.html
BULLETIN!
William Thomas will announce a major chemtrail investigation
breakthrough with Art Bell - Wed. March 14, 2001
Look here to find a radio station near you:
http://www.artbell.com/stations.html

Or tune in live on the internet:
http://www.artbell.com/audio.html

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: The Purpose Of Chemtrails. Mar. 15, 2001.

Here is a person who explains the purpose of the Chemtrails.
It's channeled material so if you don't like that sort of thing
then please don't read it.

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Lady Kadjina Speaks
March 1, 2001

Wayne: There has recently been posted information about a magnetic
manomaly in the Antarctica in the Lake Vostok region with the
implication that this area is being guarded by the Nat-onal Security
Agency. Can you tell us what the implications of this magnetic
anomaly are?

Good morning. Enough of the ice cap has melted in this region to
allow for the emitting of a certain signal. Before there was ice,
there was land and there was a large landing port for extraterrestrial
craft. And the extraterrestrials put up something comparable to what
would call an observatory. It contained a signaling device that
could transmit frequencies in a coded pattern. Even after the ice
cap began forming, at this end of the lake there was still an
entranceway into the inner regions of the earth. Now this inner
region is not completely underground. It is under ice, but not
totally under ground. But with the melting of the polar cap, the
signaling device has been picked up. And as planetary grid systems
are reconnected with great earth crystals, and being that the
technology of this observatory is based upon crystal technologies, its
signal has been amplified. It is of a sonar-type of frequencies and
has a certain similarity to Tesla technologies and the Rife
technologies, but is considerably more advanced than your
understanding of these technologies. And these technologies, to
those in outer space, would be equated to a homing device. When a
sonar energy is emitted, it goes out in wave-like patterns and this
is what is giving wave-like patterns to surrounding areas of snow.
Over the next several months, more and more bases like this will
be discovered. And the various gov-rnments are going to want to
seize control. It used to be that governments wanted to seize
control of those things going on in space, but so much is now being
discovered upon Planet Earth that governments are acting quickly to
secure and lock up certain areas that contain information that would
rewrite all of your histories and require tremendous rethinking on
the part of many. When you take a look at all of the information
that has come forth in just the last several months (civilizations
in Peru and parts of Europe, the Mediterranean, the Pyramids, the
Grand Canyon, Florida, New Mexico, Missouri, Virginia). And then
on top of this you have your visionaries who are able to see great
domes over areas of the Biminis, over areas of Was-ington. And
then again you have the mysteries of the orbs and all of these
things are not the doings of overworked imaginations; they are very
real.
As more and more of you develop 4th and 5th dimension vision and
hearing and mind, you will begin to see great devas in your
mountains, over your lakes and oceans, communications with the
fairy people will become commonplace and they will give forth much
information as to the parcels of land that are safe to live upon and
those that have energies that need clearing before construction. And
all of this information that is coming forth has frightened your world
leaders, who are bent upon control. They are losing their grip.
I will divert into another topic concerning the chemtrails. It has
long been a practice in your mental hospitals to give everyone heavy
sedications as a way of controlling them. You are doing this with
your young people by giving the Ridalin instead of answering and
addressing their legitimate concerns, you are in fact sitting on them.
And this is part of what is being done with the chemtrails.
There are too many people asking too many questions to divert them;
give them enough of something to make them ill enough so that their
attention is diverted and they no longer ask questions. It is a fact
that ingestion of chemicals creates an impingement upon the souls
ability to maintain control over its physical vehicle. And this is
the reason for the heavy snows and the floods and the changes in
wind currents that are sudden and dramatic and that help clear the
atmosphere and set free the people so that they can continue to
question and think.
Wayne: What is actually creating the magnetism at the Vostok site?

It is that observatory. There are huge crystals that are emitting
certain types of magnetic emissions and this creates the homing
device. It is a similar type of energetic to that which is
transpiring in Bimini, where the energy can actually draw into
itself crafts and ships and sink them. It used to be that great
spacecraft, not quite the size of a mother ship, but of a cargo
ship, would have equipment that would be lowered into this region
on a magnetic beam somewhat like a magnetic elevator. And from
this region the equipment would be disbursed as needed to other
locations. These magnetic beams could transport heavy items to
far distant places and energize those objects somewhat like the
operation of a hover plane not precisely the same, but similar.
And this gives a little bit of an insight into the construction of
some of your pyramids and other massive edifices such as the
great sphinx. For this magnetic-sonar system also can emit sound,
both audible and silent. So you may ask, how can sound be silent?
It is of a frequency beyond the range of the human ear.
And so your Se-ret Service is wanting to harness this energy for
their own purposes.
They think it can be beamed to your Telstar or other objects
in space. They also believe that it can be used as a we-pon of
destruction if need be. So they are hoping to reactivate this
equipment. They will not be allowed to do so beyond a certain point.
Wayne: Is this magnetic anomaly and the entrance into the underground
realm at this location related to Admiral Byrds experience of going
into the inner earth?
Yes indeed, and when he did, he found himself in a totally
different dimension, for these are also portal type of energies. The
purpose of these great observatories and they were much more than
that was to create time and space warp zones for the admitting of
craft which were of a 5th dimensional frequency. With full
knowledge of this equipment, a human could time-travel and access
information stored in many distant places. But you will be prevented
from doing this until such time as governments have an arms treaty
in place and become of a more peaceful state of being.
Wayne: Is this portal used today for entering/exiting craft that
have been seen going up and down west coast of South America?

This particular site can be used as a refueling station, if you
would. Many of the craft, especially the small ones, function from a
magnetic standpoint. And it would work somewhat like the need to
recharge a fuel cell in some of the vehicles you have now, or
refueling your electric cars. Many craft operate on magnetic energy
systems and these magnetic energy beams can serve to refuel or
recharge many of these craft.
The portal is not on the earth plane, but is created in the
atmosphere where it allows for admission of beings and craft from
other dimensions. We have mentioned before that the nadial
connectors are on the earth plane.
But they are also out in the galaxy as well. And these nadial
connectors are also portal entrances to access the next connecting
point. If you recall we spoke of these nadial connectors being
somewhat like Tinker Toys so that when you connect with one of these
nadial hubs, you then would follow a certain energy pattern to the
next connector.
Wayne: We were recently shown a photograph of an inner chamber of
the Great Pyramid where a great light was radiating, seemingly from
the ethers. What vibrational energy technologies are involved in
being able to create light from darkness (without using physical
technologies such as light bulbs)?

Within the inner realms of the earth, there is light you can see.
So the Sun is not the source of all light. There are many ways that
this can be done. One way would be something similar to static
electricity or a certain type of friction. Now magnetics are the
coming together of two types of friction positive and negative
polarities. On your earth plane, you have certain substances that
glow in the dark.
There are many other-world substances when mixed with certain
types of alloys, emit light. Now the substances from which the
Pyramids inner chambers are constructed are other-world substances.
It is not so much the technology that you can copy and manufacture
in some way as it is alloys and compounds emitting frequencies
and magnetics and certain types of frictions, that when put together
in certain combinations, produce light.
You have the same type of phenomenon going on at James Gillilands
area of Mt. Adams. With the third-dimensional vision, sometimes
you don't see the lighted orbs or the light of the dome structures.
Yet a camera that works on a different frequency range is able to
capture them. For many years you have been able to use your cameras
and place them over your solar plexus and take pictures of spirit
beings. And this is based upon certain light technology, if you
would. It is the frequencies, magnetics, polarity charges and
emissions that produce the light that then becomes seen. 4th and
5th dimensional beings are now beginning to see the etheric domes
and pyramids of Bimini and off the shore of Florida. Also at times
in Sedona, the light orbs are being seen. Many humans are now
being able to see the light of the body double of trees and other
plant formations. Many are seeing the light-bodies of the great
devas of the mountains and oceans.

[Sargon]

John F. Winston wrote:

> Subject: Foot In Mouth Disease. Mar. 16, 2001.
>
> Some people may say that I have foot-in-the-mouth disease but that
> is just disinformation. For the last 10 or more years I have been
> a card-carrying. died in the wool, vegetarian. Before that I was
> a road-kill artist. If you don't know what that is then please
> don't ask. The following information is from a person who doesn't
> think it is a good idea to eat meat. This information is pretty
> gross so if you plan to eat meat in the future you might be advised
> to not read the following. I do eat fish. Let's now see what he has
> to say.
>
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>

<SNIP>

BULLSHIT...Grow up.

--
Deez Nutz

[John F. Winston]

Subject: The Purpose Of Chemtrails. Part 2 of 2. Mar. 17, 2001.

Here is the last information about Chemtrails.

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Also I would add as just a side thought, the more you are able to
function in the 4th and 5th dimension, the more you are able to
transmute the chemical compounds that you find in the chemtrails and
also in the foods that you eat and the water that you drink.
As you become permanently in the 4th dimensional body, no longer
will these things of the 3rd dimensional realm affect you. The
gov-rnment, through its experimentation with the Tesla-type
technologies, has discovered this truth. Hence the spraying of the
populace to prevent them from going 4th dimensional. For when you
do, the go-ernment has lost its control of you.
So, in a certain sense, you are being vaccinated or inoculated
against the 4th dimension. This is why we have told Wayne and Kay,
even though they are giving forth of this information at a time
when each of them is dealing with physical challenges. Even though
they are not functioning 100% physically, when they are able to
function at all, they step into this particular 4th dimensional
frequency and fill their bodies with this light, which in turn
transmutes the difficulties in the 3rd dimensional body. Through the
use of their will, they determine that they will not be stopped -
slowed down at times, but not stopped. By taking command of your
personal fields of energy, you can overcome many things, whether
it be a deficient immune system as in Kays case, or an aggressive
form of can-er, as in Waynes case. The more you step into the
light and move yourself forward and do those things that you are
qualified to do, the more healing light you bring in to your
physical body. Greater healing will come to you an would come
through the use of radiation therapy or chemotherapy or immune
stimulants.
The purpose of the gove-nment using the chemtrails is to stop you
from going 4th dimensional. So every time you are able to enter
into the 4th dimension, you overthrow the governm-nts plan. I
realize I am sidestepping the topic, but this is so important.
Entering the 4th dimension during your times of meditation is one
thing, but actually using those energies in a co-creative way with
your soul, is a whole different energy. If you do not access
information that you can use in a creative way during your times of
meditation, then all you have accomplished is entering into a
relaxation mode. When you meditate, it is important that you
create something specific. One way would be to use visualization.
Another would be questions and answers directed to your high self.
Communication with your eternal self should be the goal of
meditation, and not simply stepping into the light and relaxing in
it. You should focus upon establishing your nadial connecting
systems and your chakra systems internally and then in your etheric
field and then on out into the grid systems of the galaxy for the
purpose of accessing workable, useable information. And all
information that is being given now should be shared information.
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Lady Kadjina Speaks
February 17, 2001
Wayne: I was recently sent information describing the purpose and
location of 35 alien bases in the U.S., and other alien bases on
the Moon and Mars, all of which information seems to be about 4-5
years old. Can you verify the accuracy of this information?

In this instance, the word alien is being used to include all
beings not native to Planet Earth. Many of the beings being
referred to have been with Planet Earth through many millennia of
time. During other of our communications, I have referred to
gatherings of beings from many places, and that they are setting up
quarters. Lady Salena and her group are of but one of many.
She works both on the surface of the Earth as well as within the
Earth and they are interactive with many groups in many places.
There are many more than merely 35 of these outposts. The United
States is part of Old Atlantis and as such there are great
activations going on. And there are many beings who have set up
posts or encampments within the area of the Uni-ed States. Some
of them are set up to intercept, if you would, certain bombardments
of the grid lines being done by your go-ernment.
Other groups are working with the Tesla energies to make sure that
they work in accordance with the greater plan. There are groups
working with the Edgar Cayce energy group and all of the healing
technologies from that source. There are many monitoring stations
all throughout the Uni-ed States. They monitor many things: the
activities of certain of your animals; the activity of your snowfalls
and what the materials are that is contained within the snow itself
from the atmosphere; they are monitoring many crystal formations,
most of them unknown to the people of the U-ited States. There are
many formations everywhere present very similar to the energy that
you have called the Jaguar Rock.

Wayne: I am interested in the speed of exposure of these alien
activities and whether it will be more gradual or more sudden. In
other words, will the various activities soon be exposed to the
general public in order that change may occur more rapidly?
Things are happening suddenly to bring this out very quickly. You
have previously posted in the Earth Dynamics Report information on
UFOs in the work of ancient art - these paintings that show Moses
receiving the Ten Commandments with a UFO in the background; the
Annunciation of the Virgin Mary also with a UFO; the three wise men
being guided by a star that is in actuality a UFO - this information
going out throughout the world, even into the more remote areas of
those places that some would call the Bible Belt. Even those that
live there are beginning to wonder. And when the people of the
Deep South of the United States become convinced that there is a
truth there, they will make themselves known and heard.

[John F. Winston]

Subject: If A Crystal Skull Could Talk. Mar. 18, 2001.

A few years back I took a little trip down to Phoenix, Arizona. My
purpose was to attend a convention of people who were interested in
UFOs. One of the things I saw up close was Max The Crystal Skull.
As I was looking at it I was just wondering what stories it could tell
if it could talk. Here is some information that may answer that
question. This is channeled information, so be careful.

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From: l
Subject: Crystal Skull (more related info)

* Dear Friends and Family of Light,
Here's a little goodie for those of you that resonate with the
Crystal Skull energy. It was posted at another list that I'm on and no
url was given with it. This info nicely compliments some of the info
presented about crystal skulls in the Lady Kadjina channeled material;
(I've been with two crystal skulls - Max and Amantae, she is
supposedly linked with Lemurian energies - and one jadeite skull.
be in love

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The Talking Skull
(Excerpted from Chapter 7, "The Talking Skull", of The Mystery of the
Crystal Skulls, by Chris Morton and Ceri Louise Thomas, published by
Thorsons/HarperCollins Publishers, London, UK, 1997; reprinted by
permission. Re-typed from Nexus Magazine, December '97, Queensland,
Australia)
The Crystal Skulls Messages for Mankind Just like the ancient legend,
(Frank) Dorland's theory suggested that the crystal skull may really
be able to provide us with important information from the past. The
Maya today apparently also believe this to be the case. Even the
scientists at Hewlett-Packard recognized that natural quartz has
information storage capacities and so were not entirely closed to the
possibility that the crystal skull might have information programmed
into it. But what sort of information might that be, and how might
we be able to access it?
When Chris and I were visiting Anna Mitchell-Hedges (in Canada), we
had already met a woman (Carole Wilson) who said she knew how to
access the information inside the skull. Like Frank Dorland, she
claimed conventional scientists had failed because they were using
the wrong approach. She said the secrets of the skull could only be
uncovered using "the technology of the mind". We were somewhat
skeptical, but curious nonetheless. If this were really possible,
what might we find? Perhaps secret knowledge that had been in this
crystal storehouse for thousands of years...
When Carole arrived, she turned out to be a quiet, well-dressed woman
in her fifties with a very professional manner. I was somewhat
surprised to find that she was accompanied by the former head of the
Toronto Police homicide department (John Gordon Wilson, her husband).
It soon transpired that... the Police had used Carole's services
many a time and had managed successfully to solve a whole string of
murder and missing person cases...
Carole now works closely with police forces throughout the Un-ted
States, Canada and Britain...
The plan was that Carole was going to channel the 'entity' of the
crystal skull and we would be able to ask it questions. Carole
requested that any questions we asked were very specific. She
explained that the skull did behave a bit like a computer in that you
had to be very clear about what you were asking, otherwise you might
not get a helpful answer. For example, someone once before had asked
the skull what a skull was and had received the answer that it was a
"bony structure"! She also warned that sometimes the skull
anticipated the questions in advance and told us not to be put off
by this.
Anna then placed the crystal skull on a small turntable so that Carole
would be able to touch it from angles and manipulate it as she wished
during the channeling session. Carole sat down and the crystal skull
was placed directly in front of her, where it glimmered softly in
the lamplight.
Carole closed her eyes. She began altering her style of breathing and
used a low hum to ease herself into the appropriate mental state.
The whole room began to take on a somewhat eerie atmosphere of the
kind you might expect during a seance, as Carole's gestures and
posture changed. Suddenly tense, she began to emit an incredibly
high-pitched humming sound. Before I was even able to ask the first
question she began speaking in a strange, somewhat staccato voice,
with a very stilted use of the English language. I remember being
struck by the fact that you could actually hear this new voice
echoing strangely around the room.
You seek to know the origins of this receptacle which you call "the
crystal skull"... I tell you that it was made many, many thousands of
years ago by beings from a higher intelligence... It was formed by a
civilization before those you call "the Maya". Our level of
civilization was, as you say, "at the time" far in advance of that
which you now have by many factors...
The speech was interrupted by high-pitched humming, and then
continued:
This receptacle contains the mind of many and the minds of one... It
was not made using what you call the "physical". It was molded into
its present form by thought. The thoughts and knowledge are
crystallized into this receptacle...this receptacle is thought
process crystallized...thus the information was crystallized into
this receptacle...
We have put thought form into pure language within that which you call
"the crystal skull"...
Much of the world that we created, we created with mind. Mind creates
matter. You will understand this and crystal technology will be given
to those who understand it in more detail...that crystal is a living
substance and you can infuse mind with matter...

* So it seemed that the crystal skull had been made by an advanced
civilization using thought. But it was all a little confusing, to say
the least. I was about to ask why the crystal had been shaped into
the form of a skull when the voice continued, in the same manner:

This receptacle is crystallized because you, within the third
dimension, need to see, to hear and to touch... Its form makes it
easier for mind to attach to mind, without what you call
personality... But you respect the personality, the head, the
enclosure of your brain...so this form of the receptacle has been
guarded and guided for many an age... The Earth life of this
receptacle is 17,000 years... It has been handed down from generation
to generation, polished with sand and hair...and no harm will come to
it.

* So the reason the crystal skull had been made into the shape of a
skull was so that it would be respected and cared for over the
years. I was about to ask if there were any other crystal skulls, as
the legend had said, but once more the voice spoke before I was even
able to open my mouth:

You are seeking information as to the other receptacles of mind...
There will be other receptacles found...for there are many...for no
one man and no one mind were given all knowledge... Each of the
receptacles contains the information of where the others are...
We would give you one where we left markings upon the Earth (* some have
since suggested this may be the area of the Nazca lines of Peru,
although there are obviously many other alternative possibilities)
...and high in the mountains... There will be one of blue in the
region you call "South America"... There will be another found when
the lost civilization that you call "Atlantis" rises to you...and we
would urge you to explore the ocean bed...we would urge you to
explore the discoveries in the area you call "Bimini"... But we will
direct you...we will show you that which you call a "temple"... This
was an area of communication between the Earth and other systems...
When all the receptacles are placed together, you will be keepers of
wondrous knowledge... Light and sound will be the key; when the right
vibration is produced you will have the information you require...
But the time is not yet... There are still some that have not yet
been given form...and others which remain safely under your ocean
bed... But you shall not find them all, as you say "at this time"...
It would be too dangerous for man to have this information...too
early in his evolution...because mankind still seeks to better all
the original destruction of our time.

* I did not really understand all of this somewhat cryptic information,
but I was curious as to why the crystal skulls had been made in the
first place. Yet again, the voice anticipated my question:

The receptacle has been given this form to encourage the mind of
oneness and to reduce your desire for separation... Your mind seeks
separation... We sought to leave you with the concept of oneness, but
your mind seeks only separation. As you say, "As you seek, so shall
ye find." And already the process of separation has begun. You have
already begun the separation, but there will be more. You have a
desire to separate that will lead to your own destruction...
Separation causes annihilation and death. We can already feel the
influence of this separation as violence... There is much violence
occurring within your planet. Violence against men, violence against
nature...violence against the Earth.

* Again, I didn't really understand these rather cryptic remarks and I
was more interested in whether the crystal skull could tell us
anything about mankind's history. The answer came:

We understand that you come seeking in quest of the beginnings of man.
We wish to tell you that your own origins were thought in form, and
that you have cast your eyes up and not down. There will be many
discoveries pointing to this acknowledgment within the next 5, 10, 15
years... And the beginnings of what you call your civilization are
over 15,000 years before the acknowledgment of that which you call
Atlantis. For there is also much evidence of our civilization still
beneath your oceans. Already there are discoveries near Bimini. But
there will be many more discoveries over the next 5, 10, 15 years
which will point you towards the right direction... There will be
more discoveries in South America, in Australia and in Egypt. In
that which you call your "deserts" you will find much knowledge. But
you will find traces of our civilization through most parts of your
land masses and there is much beneath the oceans which you call "the
Atlantic" and "the Indian", and that which you call "the Dead Sea".
There, closest to your Earth's surface, and soon to be discovered,
are remnants of our civilization... These discoveries will confuse
and cause much disharmony, but they will be needed to reduce the
mind of separation.
But many of these discoveries will not be permitted at this time. We
can only permit that which will not cause too much havoc for your
minds. We came to your Earth from a different world. From other
dimensions we came into this dimension. We came to experience,
needing to experience density. That which we first heralded had
nothing of the density of what you call a "body". The life on this
Earth plane was primitive in form, but we took upon ourselves the
physical form which is recognizable to you. We sought only to
experience material density and to bring knowledge and enlightenment.
But we did not confine ourselves to any one, what you call,
"geographical location". There were many, and many of our relics and
of our teachings are still to be found scattered amidst your land
masses and your sea masses.

[John F. Winston]

Subject: If A Crystal Skull Could Talk. Mar. 19, 2001.

Here's some more on the skull.

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PART 2
* I was keen to know exactly who these "we" were that the voice of
the skull seemed to be talking about, when it continued:
But there are still many among you who seek to find where in your
universe we are to be found. But still you cling to the idea that we
are of the third dimension and you still cannot grasp the idea that
we are of the other dimensions, beyond your rudimentary space-time
relativity.
* The voice then proceeded to divulge some rather cryptic
information about space and time:
We would tell you that the essence of time is an illusion. Time has
been created, in fact, by a higher intelligence as a form of control
upon the brain and function of the body image. This is a safeguard
against corruption of matter. Thought exists independently of the
body and brain, but time is the creation of matter. Thought is
without time. Time, as a mechanism, was introduced to material and
current mind only, not to thought or sp-rit, to keep you bound
within the third dimension and within the perimeters of the small
planet you call "Earth".
We would urge you to explore with truth and understanding that which
the mind is capable of understanding and not that which the brain is
restricted to.
Time is related to you as numbers. We offer to you that number and
time have no depth. These are merely programmed into the current mind
as safeguards, to keep you in time and space. They are a function not
really of mind, but of brain. And they are really a dysfunction of
brain, to keep you tied to the physical dimensions of the
three-dimensional world. The relativities you call "number", "time"
and "space" are a function of the brain related only to the third
dimension. This current mind keeps you a prisoner in time and space,
in the material, physical world you call "reality". But the delusion
of time must remain for a period. Do you understand?
* I was not sure at all that I did. Instead I was still trying to
work out whose voice this really was and why the crystal skulls had
been created in the first place. The voice went on:
We have come to warn you, because the separation has already begun.
The destruction is already beginning to take place. The mind of
separation has taken hold and some serious things have already taken
place. For you, with your primitive knowledge, have already started
something which now cannot be reversed. It was started through your
scientists playing with and bending sound and light waves and that
which you call "particles" into your atmosphere. You will have
noticed that there are many destructive waves now hitting your
planet. There will be more destruction brought about by atmosphere
intervention, unusual weather patterns and rapid climatic change, and
there will be movement of your landmasses also.
We wish to tell you that your civilization has grossly misunderstood
the use of light and sound and matter. That is why you have only
uncovered that which is closest to you.
But even now, your scientists and your governments play with toys that
they do not understand. They play with light and sound and that
which you call "particles" and "radiation", and they will rain
havoc. But because the reaction is not immediate and not obviously
near to yourselves, you continue until this very planet will erupt
and destroy.
As we have said, your current mind seeks only separation. You have a
desire to separate that will lead only to your own destruction. For
this is the same mind that caused the Great Flood and caused the
previous destruction of many a landmass. But this destruction has
begun to happen again already. And we can already feel the influence
of this separation in our world. But, at present, you are unaware of
this separation because it is of your own making. But we tell you
that your Earth will undertake great changes...
Even the body of your planet will change, as with your weather, as
with all to do with your Earth as you now know it. There will be
changes upon this Earth in the form of the human, the animal and
that form you know as "vegetation", and that form which you know as
"land mass", and that which you know as "atmosphere".
There will be a disaster that is of great consequence. But, in
essence, your "disaster", as you would term it, has already begun.
You will find much de-th amongst your life upon the planet. You will
find that which is grown in the ground will cause much change, and
you will see that which feeds upon the ground will end up with much
dea-h. You will see much destruction due to what you call "radiation"
and you will find much pestilence in that which now flies upon your
planet. There will be eruptions and disruptions of weather patterns,
and much separating of atmospheres. You will have much wind...and
your livestock will die in great numbers. Your waters will rise
where they should not rise, and your land will sink underneath the
waves. Landmasses will disappear, and seas and oceans will rise.
There will be a great splitting of the Earth...from within the Earth.
The magnetic field will shift and is already shifting now. The Earth
will be split asunder and the discharge will wander through the
Earth and into the atmosphere. The atmosphere is already entering a
state of negative pollution. This is what you are doing with your
negative energies on the Earth.
And this is why we left these receptacles for you to find, in your
time "long ago" when we realized that so many had forgotten their
original purpose of incarnation into this physical dimension. When we
realized that the mind of separation would take hold and that there
would be a great cat-strophe on this Earth, we chose to return to our
original dimension, but we left behind the legacy of our minds. We
knew there would be those whose knowledge and seeking and spir-tual
progression would turn them toward this path. We knew that because of
the disas-er that would befall this planet, there would be those who
would be needed to call upon their reincarnational memories to heal,
to counsel and to love a world gone mad, a world without knowledge,
a world without hope, where the fires of destruction would reign.
But when the time comes it will be the duty of all those who seek
sp-ritual knowledge to instruct others when the Earth moves from its
axis. Within this receptacle, and the others we have left you, lies
that which you will need. Our knowledge, here crystallized, will be
imparted when the right time arrives. It was determined that through
these receptacles the minds of one would be activated and would
present themselves when your Earth was in need. And this is now
beginning to happen, as you say "at this time" and "in this place".
We are here to tell you that here is...will be... and has already
begun, a great change within your Mother Earth. We urge you to make
known to mankind the things which we are to give you, in the hope that
the holocaust can be reduced. For although what is given cannot now
be changed, its effects can be much diffused.
At this point the voice explained that it was going to leave us now
because it could sense the physical body it was using, presumable
meaning Carole, was getting very tired, and so it would have to go.
A long humming sound began again, and as it faded away Carole
slumped into her chair, completely exhausted and unable to speak for
some minutes. It took a few glasses of water to get her to speak
again, in a long drawl, like someone drunk. When she eventually came
around she seemed completely unaware of the events that had just
passed and was unable to answer any more questions.
We were completely baffled as to what to make of the information
Carole had channeled. We had originally been skeptical enough about
the idea of psychic communication with sp-rit beings, let alone with
beings from another planet or "dimension", whatever that meant,
warning us about immanent disaster on a global scale. But our
cynicism had already been tempered by what we had heard about
Carole's valuable police work and by the fact that Carole herself
seemed genuine and honest.
Everyone around us treated the information we heard with a great
degree of seriousness and respect, and there was something about the
predictions made that had an alarming but still undeniable ring of
truth. Indeed, these became even more unnerving when John showed us
transcripts of Carole's channeling sessions with the skull from the
1980s. The channeled information always seemed to have been quite
consistent. In a session recorded in 1987 the voice had predicted,
"Livestock will die in great numbers." This seemed to have particular
relevance for us now, having just come from Britain where the BSE
crisis had now led to the slaughter of tens of thousands of cattle.
Around nine months later, the prediction about the Earth's magnetic
field shifting also took on a sobering degree of truth when we read
an issue of New Scientist (30 Mar '96) that it had just been
discovered that the magnetic field is indeed beginning to shift.
There are even some scientists who now predict that the whole axis
of the Earth might be about to do a complete flip (Guardian, 21 Mar
'97).
At the time, however, we didn't know what to make of everything we had
heard. Was this really 'the voice of the skull' speaking through
Carole? We just couldn't say. But the strange words remained in out
minds as we resumed our more everyday approach to the mystery of
where the crystal skulls had really come from.
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Q: What great change or the beginning of what change, if any,
is to take place in the earth in the year 2,000 to 2,001 A.D.?
(A) When there is a shifting of the poles. Or a new cycle begins. -
The Atlantean records should be opened by former Atlanteans. -
Tablets. For, remember there are thirty two of these plates!
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[John F. Winston]

Subject: Space Trip For 10 Days. Mar. 29, 2001.

Here is an account of person who claims to have taken a ten day
trip into space.

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From: D
Subject: The True Story of a Man Taken for Ten Days To an
Extraterrestrial Civilization
Alec Newald

One Monday in mid-February 1989, Alec Newald set off on what should
have been a three hour drive from Rotorua to Auckland, in New Zealand.
He arrived in Auckland feeling tired and confused, but was even more
confused to learn that Monday was now Thursday ten days later, and
that he had no idea of what had happened in the meantime!
When Alec did retrieve his memories of those missing ten days, he
realized his life had changed forever. Early on in that fateful trip,
while driving through a foggy mountain pass, Alec was whisked from the
road by beings from an extraterrestrial civilization.
What he learned and experienced during his stay with these friendly
beings has profound implications for all of us here on earth.
Soon after his "return", Alec received strange visits from
"gov-rnment scientists" wanting to know about his experience. Among
other things, they were keen to learn what he had noticed about the
capabilities of this alien race.
Alec was uncooperative and soon found himself in "hot water".
It was obvious that these "sc-entists" knew all about Alec's
abductors' and expected they would return to Earth one day - soon.
Through Alec's experiences he has written a book called "Co-Evolution".
Which is what the following information will be drawn from. Of
course it is quite impossible to relay to you all the entire contents
of the book itself, so I will be focusing on some of the events that
transipired, during his Abduction and a little of what happened on
his return.

"Introduction"

There is much about this planet's history that has never been told.
I do not speak here of yet to be discovered historical facts, but
only of material that is already known by a select few within our
communities. Most of this knowledge has been carried through the ages
and jealously guarded by the few secret sects that were privy to it
from it's inception, but these sects were not necessarily "se-ret" at
the time this information was first placed in their trust. The
original intention was that this ancient knowledge would be shared
with this planet's inheritors, en masse, when the trust holders
deemed it appropriate.
The species slated for inheritance of this knowledge is known as
Homo Sapiens. For your information, Homo Sapiens and the Cro-Magnon
precursor species were artificially engineered!
The final pieces of the Cro-Magnon jigsaw puzzle were put together
approximately 70,000 years ago. This was not the first humanoid
creature to walk planet Earth, but it was the first type ever to be
constructed to act as a receiver or container so that a second
"bodiless" entity could cohabit with this humanoid form to experience
physicality through the actions of it's host's solid outer body form!
You may recognize this entity if I refer to it as the soul or sp-rit.
There new species was designed to be able to take on board all the
stored information that awaited it at any time in the future. In
other words, it was already fully developed in it's mental
capabilities and required no further improvements or evolutionary
developments at that point. All the knowledge that would ever be
needed by this race, up until it's next evolutionary step, was
already present on the planet and in the safekeeping of the trustees.
These trust holders have long since broken their vows to the givers
of the knowledge, and I think that until very recently they had even
forgotten the identity of their ancient benefactors. Perhaps a day
of reckoning is close at hand for the trustees. It may now be a
little clearer to you as to why the s-cret sects or governors of our
planet would prefer that the anticipated visit from the "Landlord"
did not take place!

From here on in, I will be focusing on some of Alec's drawings that
he made upon his return, and giving a brief summary of each one.
Alec's experience is one of the most documented and intriuging cases
in UFO Abductions that I've come across. The knowledge he gained from
the experience is beyond any price on earth. Below are actual quotes
from Alec's book "Co-Evolution"

"Meeting the Guardian"

Looking up, I realized we were being approached by three aliens,
the tallest of them looking like my female escort from earlier on. The
second one was just a little shorter and was male as far as I could
tell. The third was smaller, much smaller, and walked ahead of the
other two.
He, for want of a better word was slightly built with a roundish
head and rather unusual, squinty eyes which were well spaced and
placed rather lower down than are our own. He had a very small mouth,
but I did not notice any ears or much of a nose. His physical
appearance, however, was of almost no consequence, for I was
immediately struck with an almost overpowering feeling of his
presence. I cannot say it was hypnotic; if anything, the opposite. It
was as if his energy was being projected and absorbed by my body.
There is no way I could ever adequately describe this sensation to
you, using mere words. Those who have had this experience will know
just what I mean! His communication with me was also much stronger
and clearer than I had experienced mere words. Those who have had this
experience will know just what I mean! His communication with me was
also much stronger and clearer than I had experienced with any of the
others.
This was still not the "alien" I had read about or seen graphically
illustrated in various magazines or papers. The size was about right
- four feet in height with a slight frame.
"Welcome", he said. "I am the designated Guardian of this section.
Anything that you feel you might need to make your stay with us
more pleasant, ask and I shall do my best to supply it. The suit you
have been given will make it possible for you to understand us, and
us you".

Part 1 of 1.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Part 2 of 2.

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He must have read my mind as he entered the room, for I had just
asked about the suits.
"We do not speak as such, as you will have noticed by now. Sometimes
a verbal sound message is necessary in long distance." "I will not
enquire if you wish to stay or return at this time. I would hope you
may desire the chance to absorb more knowledge and understanding
before you make that decision. There are things we cannot tell you at
this point in time. You will understand I hope. Nevertheless, you
will have the chance to acquire some considerable knowledge on a wide
variety of subjects, including your own kind, before you make up your
mind up on this. However, some or all of this knowledge may have to
be removed from you, should you decide to leave us and return to your
own planet."

"The Arrival"

The first most striking thing about the city was it's neatness and
order; the second, it's immensity. Even from well up I could not make
out the boundaries.
There may well be bigger cities on Earth, but where I come from this
place would be rated big, VERY big. It stretched out in both
directions, following the coastline out of my line of sight. There
seemed to be only a thin strip of land that was not coastline or
desert, and the city was sandwiched within it.
As we dropped in altitude, the sea lost it's bluish look and turned
almost black. There could not have been much wind as it looked very
glasslike. I could make out a dark outline not too far off the coast
which presumably was a deep drop off from the coastal shallows.
The last thing really to make an impact upon me was the lack of tall
buildings, save for the odd tower or two, and the dominicance of a
small circular shapes among a few larger pyramid shaped constructions.
Hardly more than a minute had passed since we had entered the
atmosphere, but now the craft had already settled. There was a mixture
of apprehension and excitement within me. Now that I was here -
whereever "here" was, just what had happened to me really started to
sink in. Would I ever see home again? Was anyone looking for me?
My panic soon eased, however and curiosity won the day. I eagerly
scanned the viewer for my first close look at the alien landscape.
What I could see was an area of level ground, similar to a courtyard,
leading to two pryamid shaped buildings. They appeared to be made from
a material that looked just like tinted glass or semi-transparent
plastic. I couldn't quite see the apex of these buildings from my
vantage point, but later I was to find that they were capped with a
spiral tower or antennna arrangement. The height of the tower added
approximately twenty five percent to the buildings overall height.
Each building in turn was topped with what I can only describe as a
large light bulb. As peculiar as it may sound, I was sure I had seen
something like this before, in the distant past. These bulbs glowed
day and night, and upon closer inspection appeared to be of a net or
mesh construction rather than being glass spheres.
"There appeared to be some form of electromagnetic grid or
shielding device above the actual landing site, possibly a force
field or energy gathering device."
There was a short walk to one of the large structures which I had
seen from inside the craft. The air was still and amazingly quiet.
Indeed, it was not until I had stepped out of the transporter that
I realized there must have been some sort of background noise on
board although I'd not noticed it at the time.
The surface upon which I was walking was not unlike cork, it
appeared to be porous and slightly yielding underfoot.

"Spiral Tower Building - Possible Energy Transmitter or Receiver"
"The Dwellings"

I was at a loss as to which way to look for awhile, such was my
curiosity and awe at what was around me. Some buildings resembled
those on Earth, but the outer walls were sloped back at approximately
thirty-degree angles and set back some distance at each floor level,
making them look more like steps up a hill.
Most of the buildings were circular or tube like in shape. They
were laid out in a spiral pattern with the tallest buildings in the
center, but the heights became progressively lower as the buildings
spiralled out. All the buildings appeared to be made of glass or
plastic.
Access to the upper levels of the home in which I was staying,
was by way of a gentle slopping spiral ramp which skirted the curved
perimeters of the walls. This ramp could also be seen from the
outside of the building. My personal observation of this feature is
that it could have been a form or frame or reinforcement for the
dwelling.
The rooms or, rather, the various levels were lit by some form of
diffused lighting, both day and night, but I could find no direct
source to explain this light. As we reached the second level, their
main living area, I was stunned by the beauty and layout. No matter
how hard I try here, my description cannot do it justice. The color
was predominantly pearl white with perhaps a touch of silver grey
within. This may have helped remove any glare, for I can assure you
there was none. Reflected from even deeper within were all the colors
of the rainbow, not unlike a mother of pearl seashell. The soft light
I mentioned earlier appeared to radiate from everywhere. To say it
was a truly amazing sight is grossly inadequate!

"Variant of Dwelling or House, also Three Stories high - Hexagonal
Crystallline

Pattern Within Walls"

I'm not even sure if it was the color that was the most stunning
aspect of the interior, for I was equally smitten with the moulded
flow of form from one section, shape or partition into the next. It
was as if the whole dwelling, including every item of furniture, had
been constructed simultaneously. Again there appeared to be no
joints or seams that I could distinguish. However this dwelling had
been constructed, similar techniques to those used in the transporter
must have been employed. The floor, a smooth, padded rubber, was
soft to walk on; the color, just one or two shades darker than the
walls.
The furniture looked to be made from the now quite familiar glass
or plastic substance. Although it was slightly tinted or smoky, all
the colors of the rainbow seemed to be deep within it. These colors
could be changed by a person's thought patterns, so if you were
excited there was no way to keep it a secret as the room's colors
would dance about right through the color spectrum. When a person was
in meditation, the light level would drop and only the softer tones
would come through.
The central space of this room upon the second level was circular
and used as a general purpose area, including for meditation. Bedrooms
as such had been made totally redundant, with meditation having
entirely taken the place of sleep. These meditative states would
last for an hour or two each day.

JW This is all the information that has been given me so far.

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Is Our Moon Artificial? Mar. 22, 2001.

This information came from an old issue of Fate Magazine, November
1984, Page 115, that suddenly just showed up in a paper sack in my
computer room. This was in the section of the magazine called
REPORT FROM THE READERS where they would put down information that
was sent in by the readers of the magazine.

Moon Metal

In the Moon's northern hemisphere a mass of twisted metal plates,
broken-up constructions and bizarre bits of machinery stretch north
and south for 200 miles, piled up in a formation named the "Causasus
Mountains." This is said to be amateur astronomers'' favorite view
and no wonder - no matter how often one has seen it, its impact is
always shocking.

The Carpathian Mountains just north of the Crater Copernicus are
almost identical in appearance. One can only speculate about what
sort of event brought about all of this destruction and why all of
these artifical-looking objects are there in the first place.--
Jack P. Swaney, Las Vegas, Nevada.

JW Then there is a sketch of the surface of the Moon that shows
a lot of mechanical parts that are on the moon in that area. The
scale of the sketch is one inch to 25 miles. It is to the left of
the Sea Of Serenity and the drawing is called, MOUNTAINS OF THE MOON.
SOUTH TIP OF CAUCASUS!....
...At 35 degrees N. LAT. - 8 degrees E. Long.

I later contacted Jack Swaney by mail and he stated that he had
tried to tell the world about this and didn't have much success.
The moon surface is very bright when the Sun hits it very much
like the surface of our Earth in the Mojave Desert. He had
been looking at the Moon for years and had nearly burned his eyes
out, so much that he could no longer see very well. I didn't
communicate with him any more. In other drawings, in Fate Magazine,
that I would have a hard time finding again, it shows some of the
places on the Moon where the surface has been removed and you can
see the artificial rib structure of the moon and it's large rafter
type structures can be seen.
He also had drawings showing building type structures that would
move in the direction they were pointing over a certain amount of
time.
The following information was sent to me by a person and I noticed
the date was from last year. I asked the person about this and was
told that it was in fact out of the past and he had decided to post
it last week. The information is from Sheldan Nidle and is channeled,
so be careful. It seems to talk about some of the things that were
mentioned in the old issue of Fate Magazine that I quoted. It seems
to be that if you see something on the Moon or anywhere else that
none of the accepted astronomers had seen before, they will say
that you really don't know anything about the Moon and you're not
qualified to make a statement about what you have seen. Next they
will say that you are crazy because if there was such a thing on the
Moon they would have seen it and told the world about it. If you
continue with your idea that you have seen something then they will
really get rough. Usually after about 2 or 3 hundred years one of
the accepted, educated people will see it and then everybody will
see it. Just think how hard it was for them to prove that the our
world is round and the Sun doesn't really come up but the Earth
rotates? They even killed people over that one and there are still
people who think the world is flat and is the center of the Universe.

Now on to the information at hand. Let the chips fall where they
may.

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From: M
Subject: Update For August 15, 2000.
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Update by Sheldan Nidle for the Spiritual Hierarchy and the Galactic
Federation
August 15, 2000 (3 Eb, 0 Uo, 9 Eb)
Greetings! We come today with some important items to relay to you.
As you know, your solar system has been relatively unstable since the
advent of Lemuria, some 900.000 solar years ago. In addition, your
home-world, Mother Earth, has experienced trying times since the
demise of Atlantis almost 13,000 solar years ago. These twin events
are quite relevant to what is happening now.
Your global society is living in a reality whose environmental
legacy is founded upon great instability. These events have been
affecting your Sun for a very long time. She has now responded with
actions that can fully redress these 'situations'. To assist you, we
have upgraded our geological mission and established new protocols
with the Sun's Spiritual Hierarchy. Together, we intend to create
the actual foundations for a stable solar system. Accordingly, we
have begun this procedure in three places. First, we have established
an experimental station on two of Jupiter's moons, Io and Europa.
Second, we have begun a project on your moon that is designed to put
her abilities in full use.
'Maldek'. Today, Maldek is just an asteroid belt that exists
between Mars and Jupiter. In former times, it was an Earth-like
world nearly 29,000 miles (46,690 kilometers) in diameter, which,
for over one million years, served as the dark Anchara Alliance's
headquarters. Galactic Federation forces later destroyed this planet,
in order to re-colonize your solar system. Much later, forces loyal
to Atlantis put your Moon in its present position in order to attack
and destroy Lemuria. The Moon has a number of important capabilities.
First, it can control your global weather patterns, as well as your
planet's electrical and magnetic grids. Second, it can control the
rate of movement of Earth's tectonic plates, as well as the degree
of up-welling of the Mantle's molten materials. In short, it is a
device that can easily manipulate your environment. Third, the Moon
can regulate the amount of life-giving energies that travel from the
Sun to the Earth.

[John F. Winston]

Part 2 of 2.

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We can employ these capabilities to provide your world with greater
stability. However, at certain times, it is necessary to relieve the
Earth's crust. These moments have led to severe earthquakes, which we
have closely monitored to limit their potential. Many earthquakes,
which your measuring scale ranked at 7.0 or above, were, in fact,
reduced by almost ten thousand percent by our actions. Hence, we
have prevented even larger global catastrophes from occurring. Keep
in mind that your planet is unstable. The Creator intended it to be a
planetary system containing two moons of similar size. Moreover, it
possessed a surface that was completely unified. Such is not now the
case. When Mother Earth lowered her frequencies and was later denied
her two celestial balance points, her once unified surface cracked
apart and began to move about in a very random fashion. The result
is a stressed surface that requires constant release of its immense
pressures. This is achieved in harmonic fifths, at specific points
across your globe's surface.
Additionally, your plunge into limited consciousness has torn
your sacred orb's atmosphere asunder. This has left you with global
'weather' and its corollary - severe climate zones. In many past
messages, we have commented upon this unfortunate turn of events. In
reality, your world is supposed to be semi-tropical, with a
temperature variance of no more than five degrees Centigrade from
pole to equator. Large barren deserts, whose temperatures are much
above 27 degrees Centigrade (82 degrees Fahrenheit), and immense
frozen glaciers, are not meant to be. Yet, your planet has
graciously sustained such nonsense for many millennia. Our point is
that these elements of randomness have been forged by yet another
chance factor - the instability of your electrical and magnetic
grids. This unpredictability is the reason behind many of the heinous
experiments that your secret cabals and their off-world rulers
conducted for many millennia. Their experiments created the matrix
that produced the perceptions that now rule your life.
View your solar system as a vast interconnected realm. Its main
nodes are your Sun and Jupiter. Between these nodes, and upon your
world, lies a major secondary node. To adjust your perception
thresholds on Earth, we need to alter all three, simultaneously.
Here, the two moons of Jupiter, as well as your moon, can serve as
platforms for these adjustments. The Sun can be changed observed us,
occasionally, during certain processes when we had to suddenly
alter our visible frequencies. These appearances have often brought
about strange, prescribed 'blackouts' or 'instrumental failures' in
the orbital telescopes of your world's space agencies. We understand
this and know that, soon, these self-imposed cover-ups will end.
To accomplish our mission, it is necessary that we coordinate the
four stations with each other. Here, the Sun's magnetosphere becomes
a major focus. Remember, the entire solar system is within its grasp.
Each planet bases its frequencies upon its position within this field.
As in a physical body's meridian system, each planet's position
serves as a node at which these energy exchanges can occur. These
exchanges sustain the life force present in the solar system. When
your planet suddenly had to lower its base frequency, this act
further destabilized a system already torn apart by damage done to
Uranus, Venus, Mars and 'Maldek'. In addition, your planetary system
lost its outer base codes when its two original moons were destroyed.
To counter this, a special simulated energy point had to be
established, after the destruction of Atlantis.
When the off-worlders established this artificial energy point,
they also reworked your reality's matrix. Bear in mind that they
possessed a very dark agenda and wished to enslave you. To ensure
this, a number of myths had to be instituted. One involved the
supremacy of the 'sky g-ds/go-desses', while another was based
upon Mother Earth as a truly unique place - only here were 'creator
go-s' able to be born in a highly sentient life form. Now, you
were isolated from your space kin and under the thumb of the dark
- or were you? This possibility has left your realm open to the
divine intervention that is now underway. To accomplish it, we
have had to slowly move the nature and the purposes of this second
artificial point. Shortly, it will manifest as your original two
moons. Then, your present one will be restored to the Maldek
planetary system.
Our major purpose is to restore the stability of this solar system.
In previous messages, we have briefly discussed some of the other
operations involved in these procedures. Suffice it to say, these
adjustments require a multi-dimensional approach. You cannot yet
fathom this level of our operation. So let us simply leave it as a
joint procedure, carried out with the full cooperation of planetary
and solar Elohim, your local Spiritual Hierarchy and your local
heavenly Administration. Using these sacred elements, we have been
able to forge the outlines of a new reality, along with a new and
revitalized solar system. The only component that is lacking,
presently, is your thoroughly transformed core perceptions. This,
your inner Councils and your Full Self are currently altering. Know
that this magic moment of union is not very far away!
In this message, we have discussed changes that are occurring in
your solar system. We ask simply that you see this procedure as part
of a rather complex system. Its purpose is to return you to your
fully conscious state. You remain a major component of this system.
Look inside and see how magnificently your inner work is helping
to forge a process that will shortly achieve its sacred mission. We
now take our leave. We bless you and thank you for your work, which
is helping us to restore each of you to full consciousness. Amen.
Selamat Gajun! Selamat Ja! (Sirian for Be One! and Be in Joy!)
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[John F. Winston]

Subject: Do You Know The Way To Hunza? Mar. 23, 2001.

I do know the way to San Jose but I didn't know where Hunza was
until I read the following information.

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Getting http://www.homevideos.com/hunza/index.html
Looking up www.homevideos.com.
VIDEOS.com - HUNZA (Shangri-La) Great Health Secrets for Long Li
Hunza Health Secrets for Long Life and Happiness
Where People Live to be over 100
Add years to your life with the fabulous health secrets of the real
life Shangri-La. "Hunza" is the true and complete story of the Hunza
people and their country, a land where people live to be over
100.
HUNZA, the HEALTH AND YOUTH WONDERLAND, IS THE STORIED LAND OF THE
HIMALAYAN SHANGRI-LA. A green gem set in the Karakoram Range, it
was reported to be the inspiration of James Hilton's book LOST
HORIZON, which became a hit movie in 1937 with Ronald Colman,
directed by Frank Capra.
Formerly an independent Kingdom, it is now part of Pakistan. The
Hunza people have found the secret of sound health and habits. They
are happy people and believe that 100 years is normal old age.
Diseases and obesity are virtually unknown there. Crime and
delinquency are non-existent in this peaceful land. Perhaps Hunza
gave birth to the dream of eternal youth. It is a place where people
have discovered the richness of a graceful and natural life in
perfect harmony with nature.
The People of Hunza
The Hunza Royal Family
The Tough Journey to Hunza
Renee Taylor has written 16 books, produced award-winning videos,
and has lectured across America and around the world on Nutrition
and Hunza.
The Book: Hunza Health Secrets
The Video: Health Secrets of the Shangri-La/Hunza
The People of Hunza
Add years to your life with the fabulous health secrets of the real
life Shangri-La. Presented and narrate by Renee Taylor,
"Hunza" is the true and complete story of the Hunza people and
their country, a land where people live to be over 100.
______________________________________________
Getting http://www.homevideos.com/yoga/r5c.htm
HomeVideos.com - The Journey to Hunza, The Himalayan Shangri-La
Renee's Index
HomeVideos.com Index
Find Stuff
Renee's Order Form
The Hunza Journey
The late American poet Robert Frost wrote a famous poem in which
he referred to the "...road less traveled...", and the joys and
wonders experienced by those who take it. The road to Hunza is
definitely the road less traveled.
It was very hard getting to Hunza when I first started going
many years ago. Much of the journey had to be taken by jeep or
horseback, over narrow, treacherous mountain roads, or done by foot.
Which made for a rough, time consuming trip. And even traveling by
jeep, there were major hazards. A crucial bridge was destroyed and
never been rebuilt. As a result, at a key point, you and your jeep,
on a rickety platform, had to be pulled across a gaping canyon to
the other side.
Today, there are regular roads and the journey to Hunza is less
difficult and dangerous. A hearty and adventurous spirit, however,
is still handy for the trip.

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The People of Hunza
All the children drink fresh water from melted snow coming from the
nearby high mountains.
The woman of Hunza help with the farming work.

Back to Hunza

JW I will have to admit most of this information sounds like a
commercial but at least we know where Hunza is.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Did Paul Harvey Say That? Mar. 24, 2001.

Well I guess I'm down to the bottom of the barrel. I'm posting
from Paul Harvey.

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From: M
Subject: Kansas Pr-yer

Thought you might enjoy this interesting prayer
given in Kansas at the opening session of their Senate. It
seems pray-r still upsets some people. When Minister Joe
Wri-ht was asked to open the new session of the Kansas
Senate, everyone was expecting the usual generalities,
but this is what they heard:

"Heavenly Fa-her, we come before you today to ask
your forgiveness and to seek your direction and guidance.
We know Your Word says, "Woe to those who call evil good",
but that is exactly what we have done.
We have lost our s-iritual equilibrium and reversed
our values. We confess that.

We have ridiculed the absolute truth of Your Word
and called it Pluralism.

We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery,

We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare,

We have ki-led our unborn and called it choice,

We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable,

We have neglected to discipline our children and
called it building self-esteem,

We have abused power and called it politics,

We have coveted our neighbor's possessions and
called it ambition,

We have polluted the air with profanity and
pornography and called it freedom of expression,

We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our
forefathers and called it enlightenment.

Search us, Oh, G-d, and know our hearts today;
cleanse us from every s-n and set us free. Guide and
direct us to the center of Your will and to openly ask
these things in the name of Your Son, the living=
Savior, Je--s Christ.
Amen!"

The response was immediate. A number of legislators
walked out during the prayer in protest. In 6 short weeks,
Central Chr-stian Ch-rch, where Rev. Wri-ht is p-stor, logged
more than 5,000 phone calls with only 47 of those calls
responding negatively. The chu-ch is now receiving
international requests for copies of this prayer from India,
Africa, and Korea.

Commentator Paul Harvey aired this prayer on his
radio program, "The Rest of the Story", and received a larger
response to this program than any other he has ever aired.

With the Lord's help, may this prayer sweep over our
nation and wholeheartedly become our desire so that we
again can be called "one nation under Go-".

If possible, please pass this prayer on to your friends. "If you
don't stand for something, you'll fall for everything."

JW I will have to admit that I am guilty of some of these things.
Let's hope some of this will help me to do better.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Art Bell Will Be On KVML And Hulda Could Be On Oprah.
Mar. 34, 2001.

During the time that Art Bell was away from his radio show they
dropped him on our local station here in Sonora, Calif. which is
KVML 1450 kc on the AM dial and it's starts at 10:00 P.M. Now that
he is back the radio people have decided to put him back on very
soon. This makes me very happy because I was having to listen to
some stations that were subject to fading because they were soo
far away. I will not put down something about a person who is
trying to get Dr. Hulda Clark to appear on the Oprah TV daytime
show. Here hoping she gets on the show. She is a person who uses
natural healing methods.

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From: D
Subject: Dr. Hulda Clark on Oprah Winfrey? -- Let's Drop a B-mbshell
Dear Guest of http://www.drclark.net
by David P. Amrein

Instead of the usual three it has only been two weeks since I wrote
you last. I just did not want to hold back this exciting possibility
with the Oprah Winfrey I just did not want to hold back this exciting
possibility with the Oprah Winfrey show! Also I will hold a seminar
next Saturday so I would not be able to write to you.
Feel free to pass this information on to your friends. Enjoy.

Dr. Hulda Clark on Oprah Winfrey?

Several sources have brought to our attention that the Oprah Winfrey
show is looking for women who have used the Internet to find health
information which has had a significant impact on their health:
http://oprah.oxygen.com/tows/intheworks/plugs_580.html
Let's take this as an opportunity to spread the words about Dr.
Clark! I think it will help if we do this in a coordinated fashion. If
you are a woman who has used information about Dr. Clark form the
Internet and it has had a significant impact on your health, please
write to me so that we can present the folks at Oprah with an
impressive file on Dr. Clark.
Please email to da...@drclark.net, even if you have emailed me a
testimonial before.
Sorry guys -- this time, only women can participate.

.....

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: How To Get The Art Bell Show On Short Wave. Mar. 25, 2001.

A few people have asked me how they can get the Art Bell Show if
they can't seem to get it on the AM or FM stations. I know it would
be expensive and a lot of people would not want to do it but if you
can get your hands on a Short Wave radio you can probably get the
radio show on one of the following stations. I especially would like
all of my friends in C-ina to be able to listen to the show.

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Getting http://www.artbell.com/shortwave.html
Art Bell - Shortwave Radio Guide
Art Bell operates on the 75-meter Ham band late at night after the
program and on weekends. See our LSB 3830 page.
With the latest rise in Sun Spot activity, reception of shortwave
frequencies has been on the rise. This is a great time to get into
shortwave listening. Here is an English Language shortwave listening
schedule to use for tuning around the shortwave bands. These are
primarily stations that broadcast news and features in English and
direct their signals to the North American continent. This is not
just a reprint of station schedules, but signals actually heard on
the air in the western US.
Frequencies are listed in kHz and the ones in BOLD should be
strong enough to pickup on your portable receiver. Your reception may
vary of course from day to day. Also included on this page below the
Hourly List are websites and Real-Audio feeds for broadcasters. If
you don't have a shortwave radio yet, you can listen via the net!
Some good links to informative websites are also listed at the end of
this page.

What's On Shortwave

Send Updates to [1mk...@rowlandnet.com
m0000 UTC, 4 PM Pacific
Australia 21740
BBC
--975, 6175, 9590 ,12095
Japan
1705
(via Canada Xmtr)
Netherlands
6165,
9845
New Zealand
17675 (weak)
UK Merlin 11985
VOA 5995, 6130, 7405, 9775,
mke...@rowlandnet.com
0030 UTC, 4:30 PM Pacific
Austria, 9655
0100 UTC, 5 PM Pacific
Australia 21740
---- 6175, 9590, 12095
Canada
9755, 13670
Croatia 9925
Germany 6040,
6145,
9640
Japan 21670 (weak)
Netherlands 6165, 9845
New Zealand 17675
(weak)
Russia 15520
Switzerland 9885, 9905
HVOA
5995, 6130, 7405,
97750200 UTC, 6
PM Pacific
BBC 5975, 6175,
Canada (30 Min)
9535, 9755,
Cuba 9820
New Zealand 17675
Taiwan 5950, 9680
0300 UTC, 7 PM Pacific
Australia 15515, 17580 BBC
5975, 6175, 7160
Chi-a
Cuba 9820
Germany 6145, 9535,
Japan
7125, 17630
Taiwan 5950, 6145,
-575 11765
UTC, 8[20;11765
Chin- 9560,
Netherlands 6165, 9590
Switzerland 9905
9575
0430 UTC, 8:30 PM Pacific
Yugoslavia 7230, 9580
0500 UTC, 9 PM
Pacific
Australia 15515
BBC 5975, 6175
11765, 12095
Canada (30 min) 9755
Cuba 9550, 9820
Germany 9670,
1795
Netherlands (30 min)
6165
9590
Japan 6110
Spain 6055
HVOA 6035
9:30 PM
Pacific
Austria 6015
0600 UTC, 10 PM Pacific
Australia
BBC 5975,
75[8
Canada CFRB 6070
Cuba 9550,
9820
HVOA 9680
0700 UTC, 11 PM Pacific
Australia
15515
C-ina
New Zealand 9700
0800 UTC, 12 AM Pacific
New Zealand 9700
0900 UTC, 1 AM Pacific
Australia 9710,
13605
Germany 6160
New Zealand
9700
930 UTC, 1:30 AM Pacific
Netherlands 5965
1000 UTC, 2 AM Pacific
Australia 13605
BBC 6195,
9740
Netherlands 5965
New Zealand 9700
VOA 6165, 9590
1100 UTC, 3 AM Pacific
Australia 12080,
3605
BBC 6195,
9740
Nitherlands 5965
New Zealand 9700
VOA 9760
1200 UTC, 4 AM Pacific
Australia 9580,
11650
BBC 6195,
9740
9515
BBC (Radio One 15 min)
9605
Canada 9660 (weak)
VOA 9760
1300 UTC, 5 AM Pacific
Australia 9580, 11650
BBC 6195,
9740, 9515
VOA 9760
1400 UTC, 6
AM Pacific
Australia 5995, 9580 BBC 9590, 7840
Canada 9555
Ch-a 7405
Japan 11705
1500 UTC, 7 AM Pacific
Art Bell - Shortwave

Radio Guide

Australia 9580
BBC
Jordan 11690
1600 UTC, 8
AM Pacific
BBC 7840[8
France 15205
Jordan 11690
1700 UTC, 9 AM Pacific
HZZZZZZ.... Reports Welcome
800 UTC, 10 AM
Pacific
ZZZZZZ.... Reports Welcome
TC, 11 AM Pacific
ZZZZZZ.... Reports Welcome
2000 UTC, 12 PM Pacific
Canada 13650, 13670
(weak)
BBC 15400
UK Merlin 13690,
17695
2100 UTC, 1 PM Pacific
Australia
21740
12095, 15400
Canada 13650, 13670 (weak)
Germany
15135
Japan 17825
New Zealand 17675 (weak)
UK Merlin
13690, 17695
VOA 17725
2200
UTC, 2 PM Pacific
Australia 21740
BBC 12095,
15400
Canada 13670, 15305
New Zealand 17675 (weak)
Taiwan 15600
2230 UTC, 2:30 PM Pacific
Belgium
300 UTC, 9590, 12095
9755, 3670
Canada 11895
UK Merlin 11985
2330 UTC, 4:30 PM Pacific
Netherlands
9845
Send
Updates to [1mk...@rowlandnet.com
The above list is primarily for news and features from around the
world, but that doesn't mean that many of the religious broadcasters
with strong signals to the US are being ignored, as they are easy to
find by scanning up and down each shortwave band.
mke...@rowlandnet.com
Shortwave Broadcaster Web Sites / Real Audio Feeds.
If you don't have a shortwave receiver, you can still listen to
these broadcasters via the Internet and your Real Audio player. Even
when these stations are not broadcasting direct to the Americas, you
may still listen to their broadcast while they direct there
programming to another area of the world. Click on the Station Name
to visit the web site, click on the speaker to listen.
Listen Station Web Site
AUDIO Australia Broadcasting Corporation
AUDIO Radio Austria International
AUDIO BBC World Service
AUDIO Radio Canada International
AUDIO Ch-na Radio International
AUDIO Croatian Radio Television
Radio Habana Cuba
AUDIO Hong Kong
Radio Japan
AUDIO Radio Netherlands
AUDIO Radio Prague
AUDIO Voice of Russia
Switzerland
AUDIO Voice of America
AUDIO Radio Yugoslavia
AUDIO Radio New Zealand International
________________________________________
Shortwave Listener Programs
*
AUDIO Glen Hauser's World of Radio
* AUDIO VOA's
Communications World
* AUDIO Radio Netherland's Media
Network---ave Books/Guides
* The
Complete Shortwave Listener's Handbook
* Passport to World Band
Radio 1999
* Passport to "WEB" Radio
__________________________________________

The Shortwave Bands
Use these frequency ranges when tuning around the shortwave bands to
find international broadcasters. Only a very few stations operate
outside these ranges.
49 Meter Band 5730 - 6205
41 Meter Band 7100 - 7595
31 Meter Band 9350 - 10000
25 Meter Band 11550 -
--60
22 Meter Band 13570 - 13870
19 Meter Band 15000 - 15710
16 Meter Band 17500 - 17900
13 Meter
Band 21450 -
21850_________________________________________________________
Short wave Web Sites
* Ham Radio: SB 3830
* Ed Mayberry: International Listener
* Daniel Atkinson:
Beginner's Guide to Shortwave Radio
* Daniel Atkinson: Shortwave
FAQ
* NASWA: Worldwide Shortwave Broadcasts in English
* NIST: Java Based Atomic Web Clock

JW You can also listen to the Art Bell show using your computer
if it is fixed up to receive sound by looking it up on his web site
which is www.artbell.com
I don't have the address for that at hand right now but maybe
someone can send us in that information.
I know there are a lot of mistakes and repeats in the preceding
information but maybe you can figure it out if you are sincere or
just look it up yourself on www.artbell.com

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: UFO Studies And Turkey. Mar 26, 2001.

Here is something that was sent to me from a person living in
Turkey. He's trying to tell the world the truth about UFOs.

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From: dj...@yahoo.com
Subject: -- WORLD U F O DAY -- DECLARATION
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
----- Original Message -----
From: Haktan Akdogan
WORLD-WIDE DECLARATION ABOUT " WORLD U F O DAY "

EXTREMELY IMPORTANT WORLD-WIDE ANNOUNCEMENT
TO ALL COLLEAGUES, U F O ORGANIZATIONS, RESEARCHERS, WRITERS,
SCIENTISTS and to ALL U F O ENTHUSIASTS and TRUTH SEEKERS AROUND
THE GLOBE, ABOUT ARRANGING " WORLD U F O DAY " EACH YEAR!
( PLEASE POST THIS AS WIDE AND AS FAR AS POSSIBLE ! )
Dear Colleagues and FrIends,
ThIs Is HAKTAN AKDOGAN , I am the founder and chaIrman of "SIrIus
UFO Space ScIences Research Center" & "SIRIUS PUBLISHING House"
located In Istanbul Turkey..
I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT; arrangIng
TOGETHER " World U F O Day " each year of July 2nd ( We thought the
date of the Roswell INCIDENT would be the best day to celebrate the
"World U F O Day" because it Is the most known and best documented
INCIDENT In modern tImes)
We THINK THAT THE CELEBRATION OF SUCH AN IMPORTANT PHENOMENON AT
THE SAME VERY DAY ( JULY 2ND ) IN SO MANY DIFFERENT COUNTRIES AND
BY The PARTICIPATION OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WORLDWIDE WILL BRING
PUBLIC AND MEDIA AWARENESS AND INTEREST TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL THAT
IT DESERVES.
THIS WILL HELP TREMENDOUSLY FOR THE PEOPLE OF EARTH TO KNOW MORE
AND TO BECOME CONSCIOUS ABOUT THE "U F O REALITY" WHICH IS SO
IMPORTANT FOR THE EVOLUTION OF MANKIND AND THE PLANET.
WHAT WE MUST DO:
1) THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT U F O DISCLOSURE MOVEMENT AND AT THIS
VERY moment many people AROUND THE WORLD have already started
supporting the "World U F O Day, July 2nd".
Please help to circulate the material. use your modem, WEB-SITES,
FAX or write letters. Talk to colleagues, friends and relatives.
SEND THE " World U F O Day " Declaration to your local AND NATIONAL
institutions or individuals who have at least some interest in
treating these items seriously. Please use the various capabilities
you have for informing the public in your AREA AND country to get to
know the "World U F O Day, July 2nd".

2 ) SECOND STEP IS, TO SEND THE "WORLD U F O DAY" DECLARATION
TO YOUR LOCAL, NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL MEDIA AND NETWORKS. LET'S
SPREAD THIS IMPORTANT CAMPAIGN WORLDWIDE, TO ALL THE TV. STATIONS, NEWS
COMPANIES, RADIO STATIONS, NEWSPAPERS, MAGAZINES, INTERNET NEWS
PORTALS....ETC AROUND THE WORLD.
THEN, DURING THE DAY OF 2ND JULY, (STARTING THIS YEAR) PEACEFUL
DEMONSTRATIONS AND EVENTS SHOULD BE HELD WORLDWIDE TO DEMAND WORLD
GOV-RNMENTS TELL THE PEOPLE OF THE EARTH, THE TRUTH! IN EVERY COUNTRY
AND EVERY STATE AND CITY AROUND THE GLOBE, ALL THE U F O
ORGANIZATIONS, RESEARCHERS, SCIENTISTS, U F O ENTHUSIASTS and TRUTH
SEEKERS AROUND THE GLOBE....,WE SHOULD ALL ORGANIZE PEACEFUL MARCHES
AND EVENTS, MAYBE EVEN IN FRONT OF OFFICIAL BUILDINGS IN ORDER TO
PUT ON MORE PRESSURE TO END THE U F O SECRECY AND COVER-UP WHICH HAS
BEEN GOING ON FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS.....
THIS WILL DRAW ALL THE PUBLIC AND MEDIA ATTENTION TO THE "U F O"
PHENOMENON.
THIS WAY WE'LL HAVE A VERY EFFECTIVE WORLD-WIDE U F O REALITY
CAMPAIGN WHICH WILL PROCURE PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD KNOW THE TRUTH
ABOUT THIS REALITY.
It is time to show that everywhere around the globe many people
seriously and scientifically work on the exploration of u f o's AND
have interest in such investigations. If the people of the countries
in this world realize that their scientifically work on the
exploration of u f o's AND have interest in such investigations. If
the people of the countries in this world realize that their
scientists and many other serious individuals of all social classes
ARE dealing with the investigation of the world-wide repeatedly
seen U F O'S and the related phenomena since a long time, they can
start to place confidence in the reality that is behind these
IMPORTANT phenomena.
WE SHOULD ALL together concentrate OUR efforts on one goal: to
bring the truth about the U F O PHENOMENON to light TOGETHER! It
is knowledge of profound importance to which all people throughout
the world should have an inalienable right To know the truth about
this IMPORTANT issue and it is time to put an end to the controversy
surrounding it, BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!
THIS IS SO IMPORTANT for the consciousness of mankind and TO
ACCHIEVE PEACE ON EARTH AND for the development of our global
society. THE PLANET HAS COME TO A CRUCIAL TIME.
I BELIEVE THAT THE DISCLOSURE OF "U F O REALITY" BY THE
GOVERN-ENTS WORLD-WIDE IS THE ONLY CHANCE WE HAVE LEFT TO ACHIEVE
PEACE ON EARTH AND TO REALIZE WE ARE ALL HERE TOGETHER AS
EARTHLINGS AND AS THE EARTH FAMILY.
ALL ORGANIZATIONS, UFO RESEARCHERS AND BELIEVERS AROUND THE WORLD,
WE SHOULD ALL BAND TOGETHER TO BECOME ONE CLEAR LOUD VOICE IN JULY
2ND 2001 AT THE "WORLD U F O DAY".
SO PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD AND GET INVOLVED.
WE ARE HOPING FOR YOUR INPUT AND SUPPORT.
MAY TRUTH & PEACE PREVAIL ON EARTH!

Haktan Akdogan
Founder and Chairman
Sirius UFO Space Sciences Research Center &
Sirius Publishing House
Tel: 90- 216- 369 92 48 or 369 92 52
Fax: 90- 216- 369 92 52
E-mail: uf...@netone.com.tr
Address: 18 Mart Sk, No:9, C:Blok, D:15, Ciftehavuzlar-
Istanbul TURKEY

( PLEASE POST IT AS WIDE AND AS FAR AS POSSIBLE ! )

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John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Chemtrails To The Left Of Us ------- Mar. 27, 2001.

I figure I have the right to grip about Chemtrails. They are still
spraying us here in Sonora, Calif. and everywhere else I have been.
Here is some information that attempts to explain why this is
happening to us. Remember I don't claim to have all of the answers.

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From: M
Subject: Chemtrails Explained: Putting the Pieces Together
John,

Read this through I think you will like this info, and perhaps give
it to some of your email friends who want to know all they can about
chemtrails. At the end when they are connected to the N-O currently
underway as if on a timetable, I found that info quite valuable. I
think the forceful removal of the sheep and cows in Europe, especially
the well ones, is yet another sign things are moving along as planned.
M

From: Paul LeBreton <wizz...@earthlink.net>

Chemtrails Explained: Putting the Pieces Together
By Peter Farley
Note: As with all my work, I "stand on the shoulders of giants",
those who have spent their time methodically pulling together the
findings for each one of the pieces I write utilizing information
from other sources.
Reference to the original articles is included or listed at the
end of this article.

If you haven't realized it until now . . this whole war that has
been raging in this corner of the Universe for eons is over the issue
of control--the power to control the lives and energy of those beings
who reside, not only on this planet, but also on all the other planets
in this vicinity, and even into the other dimensions. As always, the
best allegory I can find for this situation is in the book A Wrinkle
in Time by Madeline L'Engle.

Simply put, the whole thing is a battle between the Darkness and
the Light (in it's true form from the Creator or Source, not the
Light which is also that of Lucifer) for the ultimate control of the
Universe. If this sounds like you are living in another episode of
the Star Wars series, welcome to reality and the biggest thing going
on in Creation right now. This bigger war which is raging in the
macrocosm of the Universe, is also raging within each and every one
of us, also called the microcosm.

And the chemtrails can be a fearful weapon in this war, as long as
we remain in the victim state of consciousness.

Planet Earth and its inhabitants, as the prizes in this latest and
final battleground of the Galactic war, are crown jewels to the
victor, not only because of the position this planet holds on the
outlying edge of the galaxy, but as is explained further in my
upcoming book, because it is a microcosm of the galaxy. Much like
the Un-ted States is on planet Earth - Earth itself is a melting pot
of so many different alien ra-es, that it's conquest represents a
conquest of all the home planets as well..

The key to this penultimate battle is the coming ascension of
planet Earth back into the fifth dimension, and the choice its
people to either stay here in this dimension, or to go with it. The
chemtrails fulfill that part of the Hopi prophecy spoken of about
the Day of Purification when cobwebs would be spun in the skies.

But what you do if you were already in control of this planet? What
would you do if you had already spent inordinate amounts of time and
energy making it into the most sophisticated pr-son camp in the
Universe-so much so that most of the inhabitants didn't even know
they were p-isoners? What lengths would you go to in order to prevent
them from pulling off the Great Escape by beaming themselves and the
whole camp up and out of your self-governing enclosure?

Two things would become necessary for you to do:
1) close or control the doorways or portals in and out of your camp
(the always crucial 'head'em off at the pass' in Earth wars); and
2) keep the pr-soners -
a) preoccupied with their health and the day-to-day grind,
b) genetically incapable of making the jump into hyper-space.

Voila! --the chemtrails.

The ultimate purpose of the chemtrails can be seen in the most
ubiquitous of symbols seen everywhere in the trails left behind over
so many cities-the X.
As one researcher discovered while researching the source of the
X rune (Gebo) in the original Teutonic texts, it literally means a
gift, or offering--the symbolic meaning being "sacrifice of the
lower for the higher." Certainly that is a familiar theme in the
ways of the Ill-minati here on planet Earth. All the true knowledge
of Creation is withheld from us, the lower, and our lives and very
existence here on the planet are sacrificed in service to those who
deem themselves the higher and therefore more worthy to retain this
cosmic wisdom.

The first part of the New Wo-ld Order's solution concerning the
blockage of the portals into and out of the planet is dealt with in
my upcoming book (available soon through my website). This blockage
is being done from both inside the planet's atmosphere (at ground
level), and also from outside the atmosphere through the many "se-ret
missions" carried out over the past decades of "space exploration"
by NA-A and by the space shuttle, as well as many other earth-based
space programs.

Part A of the second aspect of the solution has to do, obviously,
with keeping the economy insecure. This involves taxing the people
so heavily as to keep the power out of their hands and with little
or no money left even to stay alive. If this means inflating the
stock market and the economy, or plunging us all into a "recession"
or a depression as they have done before, then so be it. The
evidence of these things is all around us if we simply choose to
open our eyes. The whole idea behind the old "company store" was
to keep the workers alive and working, reaping a windfall for the
company, while growing further and further into debt by buying
necessities at inflated prices through the company store. The workers
then became hopelessly reliant on the "social security" of their
benefactors, using their own free will to sell themselves into a
lifetime of self-imposed servitude.

Not only are food supplies and housing now the most expensive
commodities available, but we even have to buy such things as water
and even air to remain even somewhat healthy and alive. The medical
system is a crushing blow to freedom as it is now not only
responsible for as many deaths as for the lives it saves-but it has
also been positioned to bleed the economy dry of all its resources
through high-priced sugar pills and drugs which cause more problems
than they cure in the hands of ill-trained practitioners. All
this, while never once dealing with what is really killing the
people---fear and emotional stagnation.

Part B of this scenario is to keep the people unhealthy, all the
while genetically altering them enough so that they cannot even
conceive of making the proposed jump back into hyperspace along with
the struggling planet. The process of doing this began a long long
time ago with the infamous Annunaki race of aliens featured so
prominently in Sumerian and Babylonian history and the work of
Zecharia Sitchin. These beings were responsible for originally
stripping us of our 12-strand DNA in order to make of us a slave
r-ce. By doing this, the also stripped us of our G-d-given
connection to our Higher Selves, that part of ourselves which is
truly interdimensional and in touch with its Creator.

By manipulating both the portals to the planet and the personal
portals in our own DNA, the New Wor-d Order and its controllers
hope to keep both us and the planet trapped here in the third
dimension indefinitely for their own personal uses. This has
already created a problem in that so many of those who have been
passing on over this period of time have been reincarnating back onto
the planet instead of going on to other places and other lessons,
simply because they have been trapped here by the dense physicality
created on this planet, and by their attachments to worldly things
and their inability to reconnect with their Higher Selves.

As more and more children and adults become re-attuned to their
original 12-strand DNA status with the increase in the planet's
frequency, and as the date for planetary ascension draws ever
nearer, the urgency to control this re-connection to our original
selves has become an urgent and necessary part of the New Worl-
Order's agenda.

In a recent article by Patricia Resch circulated on the web, Dr
Berrenda Fox provides her insights into these cellular and DNA
changes. Dr Fox is the holistic practitioner of the Avalon Wellness
Center in Mt Shasta, California. She has proven through her own work
and blood testing that some people have actually developed these new
strands of DNA.

"We are making an evolutionary change, yet we don't know what we are
changing into," says Fox. "Everyone has one double helix of DNA. What
we are finding is that there are other helixes that are being formed.
In the double helix there are two strands of DNA coiled into a spiral.
It is my understanding that we will be developing twelve helixes.
During this time, which seems to have started maybe 5 to 20 years ago,
we have been mutating. This is the scientific explanation . . . "

What Fox is referring to is that the planet is already passing
through the fourth dimension of vibration as of about 1982, headed
for a quantum leap into the fifth level in about 2012-2013, the
famed end of the Mayan Calendar. Hence we have the increase in UFO
sightings (dimensional phenomena), and also in people's telepathic
and intuitive abilities.

"The changes are not known publicly, because the scientific
community feels it would frighten the population," says Fox.
"However, people are changing at the cellular level. I am working
with three children right now who have three DNA helixes."

Fox suggests that most people know and feel this already, and that
many religions have talked about the change and know it will come
about in different ways. "We know it is a positive mutation even
though physically, mentally, and emotionally it can be misunderstood
and frightening . . . You would almost think by knowing these children
that they are half angelic or superhuman, but they're not. I think
they are what we are growing into during the next few decades."

Part 1.

JW It's a little bit like what Tiny Tim once said, G-d bless us
everyone.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Chemtrails To The Left Of Us --------- Part 2.
Mar. 28, 2001.

What are little Chemtrails made of? This part will tell you what
they think is in them.

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Our immune and endocrine systems are the most evident of these
changes, say Fox, and that is the reason she says she works with
research into immunological testing and therapy. It is also one of
the chief reasons why the chemtrails and other N-O practices target
our immune systems and endocrine systems so heavily.

"Some adults that I have tested actually do have another DNA
helix forming. Some are even getting their third. These people
are going through a lot of major shifts in their consciousness and
physical bodies, because it is all one. In my opinion, the Earth
and everyone here is raising its vibration.
Many of the children born recently have bodies that are
magnetically lighter. Those of us that are older and choose to change
have to go through many physical changes."

Fox suggests that the easiest way to mutate our DNA is through a
virus. DNA viruses like Epstein Barr and the Herpes #6 change cellular
structure. This fact, as we shall see, has obviously not gone
unnoticed by the New W-rld Order.

"Most people who go through this process and come out the other
side," says Fox, "have a new profession, a new way of thinking, or at
least a starting of a new way of life. Even though they may feel
really sick, tired, or hopeless at times, it can be a gift."

As I understand it," she adds, "we have until about 2012 to
complete this process."

The DNA and other body changes are also spoken of in an article
titled 'The Bigger Picture' by Susanna Thorpe-Clark:

"We are being changed physically from carbon-based beings with 2
strands of DNA into crystalline beings with 1,024 strands of DNA
(eventually), because only crystalline substances can exist on higher
dimensional levels.

"This new state of being requires therefore that we physically,
mentally and emotionally let go of 3rd dimensional concepts. Just as
in de-th, the letting go is a major part of the change process, for
one cannot take the old values and way of being into a new completely
different afterlife. So the progression through changes compels us
to let go of current relationships, jobs, careers, homes, possessions,
and so on, if they are unable to support our new way of being . . .

"Is it any wonder therefore, that there is a great deal of anxiety
and fear being felt because these changes are already in progress,
even though most people are not conscious of it . . .

"These changes are not necessarily being experienced by everyone
concurrently. A very small percentage of adults have already completed
the entire change into crystalline form and now embody 1,024 strands of
DNA . . . Some people are only just starting to move through these
changes, and many others have yet to start. This process of change is
known as the Awakening, or as the Ascension process, or known as
achieving the Merkabah, or light body.

"We need to transcend our fears and learn about love, real love,
which has to start with the self. Because, until we can love and trust
ourselves, we cannot truly love or trust anything or anybody else."

How does all this relate to the chemtrails and to the New W-rld
Order? The original three major theories explaining the chemtrail
phenomenon i.e., weather modification, mass inoculation, and
population control, have all been pretty much discounted by
researchers as pointed out in Stan and Holly Deyo's May 31st
newsletter. None of these theories adequately explains the range of
data gathered.
Furthermore, spraying is occurring worldwide, thus it has to be
run by a multinational alliance of some kind, the likes of which
can only put it into the class of that monolith known simply as
the New Wo-ld Order. The se-recy of the chemtrail phenomenon also
puts it into the domain of black budget projects and shadow
gover-ment operations in terms of the US, or even for any other
gover-ment for that matter.

Right now, people are still recovering from chemtrail induced
sicknesses. Since chemtrail related dea-hs have been extremely low,
the possibility of chemtrails containing only one single agent is
very low.

Double agent spraying is more likely. One somewhat benign agent is
applied now, and its combination with an activator in the future
would turn it lethal or at least trigger the desired results. The
activator can then be another biological or chemical substance
which triggers this new reaction in tandem with the first agent.

To see how the chemtrails are manipulating both out health and
our genetic makeup, we have to take a look at the contents of
samples taken after chemtrail spraying. These ingredients have
been obtained from the many analyses performed upon chemtrail
residue samples and listed on the web:

1) Pseudomonas aeruginosa - A common hardy bacteria that can be
found in dirt. This could suggest possible contamination of chemtrail
ground samples but also perhaps not considering that it is commonly
genetically engineered by companies as PathoGenesis for various
purposes. The natural strains have been found to contaminate
hospitals and drinking water. When inhaled into immunosuppressed
lungs such as those of victims with cystic fibrosis, it forms slime
clusters called biofilms which are virtual bunkers against immune
system defenses and antibiotics. It can transfer horizontally,
meaning between species, genetic information to the host via
transduction and conjugation. Conjugation involves the bacteria
injecting a genetic package called a plasmid via a 'handshake' into
a host cell, which receives it and in effect makes it a part of its
own DNA. Transduction is similar, but instead of the bacteria
sending a plasmid into the host, it sends bacteriophages (viruses)
that contain some of the original bacteria's DNA and implants it
within the host's DNA. This allows for genetic manipulation to occur.
2) Aerosol Barium salts such as were used in Libya, Panama and
Desert Storm where they were sprayed and exploded overhead to make
the people extremely sick and weak. It's a radioactive material that
accelerates and magnifies the effects of other mix ingredients by
altering the chemical structure of the other agents. A spectrum
analysis reveals only the barium compounds and hides the "bad stuff"
by placing a shell around it. After time, it releases the other
agent. Think of it as a time release d-ath pill.

3) Ethylene dibromide (dibromethane) - Banned in 1984 by the E-A,
ED- (C2H4Br2) is a carcinogenic fuel additive and insecticide with a
chloroform-like odor. It is claimed to be similar to silver iodide,
which was once used for cloud seeding and weather modification
purposes. When absorbed, EDB causes central nervous system depression
and pulmonary edema, which is fluid accumulation in the lungs.
Symptoms of pulmonary edema include shortness of breath, anxiety,
wheezing, and coughing. It is extremely irritant to mucous membranes
and to the respiratory tract. These are all symptoms associated with
the "chemtrail cough," and with the growing lethargy noticed in
populated areas both here and around the world where spraying is
taking place. (JW I caught this when I was outside during a spraying
of the Chemtrails. I found that using an hand held inhaler would
not clear my lungs of water. I've recovered from it now.)

If anything, EDB serves partly as a condensation nuclei around
which water vapor in the atmosphere can condense, making thick
chemtrails visible for satellite tracking.

4) Pseudomonas fluorescens - another strain of the Pseudomonas
variety found most often in soil and on plants. On plants, it
produces antibiotics which shield the plant from fungal and
bacterial infections. Most likely a contaminant in the analysis.

5) Enterobacteriaceae - Includes E.coli and salmonella which are
culprits in cases of food poisoning. Most interesting of the
Enterobacteriaceae family is the Klebsiella genus, whose species
is responsible for pneumonia infections (enough said).

6) Serratia marcescens - a dangerous pathogen that can cause
pneumonia. One link from the Canadian Intel-igence Security
Service formation on the San Francisco 1950 biological testing
reports that "One of the biggest experiments by the gov-rnment
involved the use of Serratia marcescens being sprayed over San
Francisco. This organism is especially nice because it produces a
red/pink pigment when grown on certain media, which makes
identification very easy. At one point, 5000 particles/minute were
sprayed from the coastal areas inward. During this time, 1 man died
(in hospital) and 10 others became infected in what was described as
"a mystery to do-tors." Although the mil-tary claimed it never did
many follow up studies on these tests, one result was that it showed
nearly every single person became infected with the test organism.
In hindsight, now that some of this information has become
declassified, it's been shown that during periods following spraying
tests, there were 5-10 times the normal infections reported."

Although attributed to the milit-ry and go-ernment sources, similar
experiments were revealed to have also been performed by the
Australian gove-nment on its people using various bacteriological
agents, a country known for its extremely high rate of asthma and
chronic lung problems. This advance testing was obviously an early
phase for the NW-'s "final solution.

7) Streptomyces - "Streptomycetes are used to produce the majority
of antibiotics applied in human and veterinary medicine and
agriculture, as well as anti-parasitic agents, herbicides,
pharmacologically active metabolites (e.g. immuno-suppressants)"

8) A restriction enzyme used in research labs to snip and combine
DNA -- such an enzyme cleaves open DNA and allows desired segments
to be inserted before recombining.

9) Other bacteria and toxic molds capable of producing heart
disease, encephalitis, and meningitis--of which there are renewed
outbreaks, especially in heavily sprayed cities such as Houston--as
well as acute upper respiratory and gastrointestinal distress.

It is known that within three days of a particular heavy spraying,
outbreaks of respiratory illnesses occur in the exposed population.
Some develop pneumonia, others colds, flu-like symptoms, and
depressed immune functions. Instances of meningitis and encephalitis
have also increased in correlation with sprayings.

Part 2.

John Winston john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: The State Of John Winston's Cat. Mar. 29, 2001.

As most of you know after the passing away of my dog that I
called "Yogi The Telepathic Dog" I had an encounter with a black
cat. This cat I call "Radar The Earthquake Predicting Cat".

Let me state first of all that this cat is a male, otherwise known
as a Tom Cat. He feels that it is his purpose in life to fight every
male cat and have relations with all of the female, otherwise known
as pussy cats. This gets him into a lot of trouble. At times he
comes home with one leg, two legs and then all four legs in a state
of disrepair. Once something got hold of him that really tore him
up inside. My friend wanted to have him put down but I stated that he
would make it, so we wanted. It took 3 months for him to heal. He's
had his ears chewed and his jaw cut but he seems to come back and
rejuvenate.

When he first started coming to our house, he put on this act
that he was hungry, and very afraid. After a while after being
filled with food he became so friendly that he would even get on
top of your head. He'd even come over to you and pick up your arm.
When he had put your hand on his belly he would demand that you
scratch his stomach. After doing this to him for quite a while he
would suddenly look up as if he realized that you had taken advantage
of him and bite you.

I then started doing some things to him of which I not very proud
that made him not want to get around me any more. His fur also
gets in my nose and eyes.

Radar does have a perfect record of predicting earthquakes. He
left our home for a few days and then we had an earthquake, then
he came back.

There are a few things that I don't particularly care for about
Radar.

1. He has a catty attitude.
2. He uppiddy. He thinks that he is the greatest thing in this
world. He says telepathically, "Now if you are really nice to me
I just may let you pet me.
3. He is finiky.
4. He has the attitude of, "Get up and get my some food and I
want something new that I've never eaten before."
5. He is prissy. He really knows how to strut his stuff. He
walks with a real swagger.

About a week ago my friend noted that a certain multicolored,
calico cat that Radar was running around with was suddenly becoming
very fat. It was thought that this cat was pregnant. I assured them
that Radar was not that sort of cat. These two had not been properly
introduced before. Well I didn't say that but I could have said it.

Shortly after that time the lady up the street from us said that
she was the owner of the Calico cat and that the cat had suddenly
lost some weight. She thought maybe that the cat had gone into our
garage, as she had many times in the past and had some kittens in
there.

We checked in our garage and called for the cat but nobody answered.
We then informed the lady of this. Later we checked again and this
time the cat was found by my friend. As the female cat was approached
she gave off a low sounding roar telling everyone to stay away, but
when a hand was put down to her she put up her head and wanted to be
petted. It was found that she had 3 kittens in this box. Two of
the kittens were grey and one is grey with a little orange on it's
face.

The lady from up the street came down and picked up the kittens and
momma cat. My friend thought the cat may bring the kittens back
but all went well for a while. I then I noticed that the momma cat
was sneaking into our garage again and the kitten were back again.
She was still growling again. I didn't go very near to her. Later
the next day the lady up the street came back and found the cat
inside our garage. It seems that the kitten stayed in her house for
a while but some sort of larger animal such as a dog or a neighbor
goat came in and ate up the cat's food. It also knocked over the box
containing the kittens. The momma cat had then taken them back to
our garage.
It was decided then for the lady up the street to bring in a nice
basket, with pillows on it, and put it and the kitten in our garage,
on top of the small box where she was living. So everybody decided
to let the momma cat raise her kittens in our garage. One of the
kittens is already promised to be given away to a certain person. I
think my friend wants one of the female kittens so that she can play
with it. The person doesn't care for any more male cats.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com
Subject: Good News. Mar. 29, 2001.

At the present time (Mar. 29, 2001, 12:30 AM) there are no
visible Chemtrails being sprays over Sonora, Calif. Let's hope
it lasts forever. I was just thinking that we might ask Sheldan
Nidle's good space friends to come down and maybe they could get
these Chemtrails stopped. Maybe they could show us how to produce
free energy so we wouldn't have to pay such high power bills
also. If you hate Sheldan Nidle and despise channeling it might
be best that you not read the following information.

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From: Y A S
Subject: A Real Treasury Bank for a change
So I've been told by several Sources & it will replace the Fe-eral
Reseve Finally !!!!

XXXXXXXXXXX`````````````````````````````` Update by Sheldan

Nidle for the Spiritual Hierarchy and the Galactic Federation

6 Cib, 4 Mac, 9 Eb
Selamat Jarin!! Today, we come in Joy to bring you more exciting
information. In our last message, we described the first contact you
soon will have with the personnel of the Galactic Federation of Light.
We also examined some of the elements that are propelling your movement
toward full consciousness. Right now, the 'powers' that covertly rule
your global society are quickly moving several crucial procedures into
position. They are designed to open you to many exciting possibilities.
Here, it is important for you to understand that these new events may,
at first, shock you, but then, will truly delight you. They will result
in the establishment of many new financial institutions, which will
quickly replace the major monetary organizations that currently 'run'
your global economy. In addition, a vast array of highly curbed
technologies will come into being. With them will be revealed many
off-world technologies. These devices, dear Hearts, will allow you to be
free, abundant and, soon, fully conscious individuals living happily in
your galactic society.

In this regard, we must now issue some words of caution.

Right now, lingering elements exist among your c-bals that want to
drive us and our divine agendas away. This, we cannot do. These same
elements persist in carrying out the last of their dastardly plans to
prevent your development. This process is doomed to failure. Already,
you have reached the point of no return. Your RNA/DNA is beyond being
retrograded or stopped from achieving its objectives. Moreover, key
members of your world's secret ca-als realize this and understand
what we have told them. Our agreements make these things inevitable.
Yet, the last few renegades carry on. Whatever they do, we quickly
counteract. Their final few forays are failing. They are losing key
personnel, irreplaceable equipment and the ability to sustain their
efforts. They are well aware of this and, as a result, have asked
that any ill-considered information concerning their efforts be
disseminated to the public. Understand that their pronouncements are
merely misplaced speculation about many short-sighted projects.

You are experiencing something absolutely extraordinary!

You are moving toward the moment when your global society will
begin to acknowledge your ascension. You are about to formally
concede your extraterrestrial origins. Think of what this actually
means to your society! Your present concerns will be resolved
creatively. What your go-ernments deny is now very close to becoming
real. These events are only part of many that will swiftly cross your
path in the very near future. We ask you to understand that the most
exciting part of your adventure has begun. The journey that you have
made has reached several important crossroads. The events to come
move us to transports of great Joy! For a long time, aware of your
amazing potential, we have watched you develop from afar. That
potential is now being revealed. As it does so, it releases a great
deal of chaos, which is simply a sign that your transformation draws
ever closer. This process, filled with many sudden twists and
unforeseen plot changes, has been most wondrous to behold. In fact,
your sudden change has been full of the innumerable possibilities
given you by the divine plan. In this, you are co-creating your new
reality. Even its timings are derived from commands provided by the
divine plan, and the Spiritual Hierarchy is lovingly regulating the
process. We are in awe of the synergy involved! You, dear Hearts,
have been magnificent! You have employed these experiences to
increase your knowledge and multiply your wisdom. This base shows
that you have also expanded your potential. We most eagerly
anticipate the shared delights of first contact. This is not a moment
to be saved for your distant future. The events that will
precipitate its occurrence are happening now. When they have fully
manifested, we intend to make some explicit announcements to you.
Until then, we will remain somewhat vague and simply say that this
wonderful event will happen soon. Consequently, be aware that you
are following your heart and are manifesting your desire for it
actually to happen.
The process of evolving from planetary to galactic human is
seemingly immeasurable. During these 13 millennia, you have watched
various dark off-world Beings manipulate your world's fragmented
societies. In spite of this, you have grown, slowly, toward the Light.
Your many off-world and worldly rulers met every stage of this growth
with great bloodshed and enormous cruelties. It has left you with a
dark history that, nonetheless, shows your amazing resilience. Your
rulers' continuing efforts to sever you from your great inner Light
failed miserably. Your Light simply requires the proper environment
to bloom. It is our responsibility to help you to obtain that Light.
This, we have done and you are now beginning to see it appear. As
this glorious environment manifests, it can further accelerate your
inner and outer development.
This development also permits the appearance of the great Beings
and Orders from A-E-O-N, who come to reorder your local Spi-itual
Hierarchy and to prepare you for your final triumph. Their arrival
also brings the vast fleet of the Galactic Federation of Light.
The combined multitudes are a mighty force whose sole purpose is to
see that you fulfill your destiny. That destiny will bring, to us
all, a permanent galactic peace and, with it, the union of all
sentient Beings in this galaxy. As you can see, we have an intensely
deep interest in your success. More than a new member for our growing
organization, it brings us the ability to fulfill sacred prophecy.
You, dear Ones, are destined to alter all of physicality and to help
us to unite with Heaven and carry out the last vestiges of this
aspect of holy Creation.
As we work together, our operation is evolving from subtle to more
dramatic. We intend to make our presence seem more real to you. A
major part of this process revolves around the many agreements that
we have negotiated with your covert rulers. These agreements have
set a series of events in motion and include many important datelines
and their accompanying possible sequences. This procedure will
permit us to be more candid and to carry out many of the open mass
flyovers that we, at first, were hesitant to perform. Understand
that we are your galactic family. We do not wish you to fear us,
but only to welcome us in Joy! We greatly look forward to becoming
more accessible to you. As this process is realized, we will be able
to begin your formal preparations to join us and help you to manifest
your galactic society.
The operation of moving you quickly into full consciousness is very
complicated. It has brought together an extremely diverse group of
Beings. Each element in this procedure has come from the countless
Life- streams that populate Heaven and the diverse realities that
form physicality. They have come because your great destiny is ready
to be accomplished. For a long time, you have developed slowly within
the womb of Mother Earth. Now, the moment arrives for you to birth
your true essence. That essence contains the potential to transform
not only you, but the whole of physicality. We repeat this thought
only to emphasize its importance. In you, the Creator has seeded
a truly divine gift - a unique Soul - that will be able to unite with
all its many parts. This reintegrated Full Self is destined to complete
this aspect of Creation. What Joy you are about to experience!
Today, we have discussed many things with you. Soon, we intend to
make ourselves more known to you. For too long, your society,
officially, has denied our existence. The time has come to remedy
this situation and to prepare you for your first contact. We now
take our leave. Blessings to you all! Know, dear Hearts, that Heaven's
great Abundance and Prosperity is yours! Amen. Selamat Gajun! Selamat

Ja! (Sirian for Be One! and Be in Joy!)

Planetary Activation Organization | Mailing Address: P. O. Box 880151,
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Of One Heart

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[DrPostman]

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:20:34 -0800, "John F. Winston"
<john...@mlode.com> wrote:

>Subject: The State Of John Winston's Cat. Mar. 29, 2001.
>
> As most of you know after the passing away of my dog that I
>called "Yogi The Telepathic Dog" I had an encounter with a black
>cat. This cat I call "Radar The Earthquake Predicting Cat".

The bottom line with a cat is that if they choose
to love you, you know it. Dogs will love just
about anyone that will feed them. That's why
I prefer cats to dogs, cats are smarter.

I'm sure Yogi was an exception.

Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
Knight of the Potato Cannon, minion of the afa-b Army of Darkness
High Counselor of the New Usenet Order, Unpaid Disinformation Agent
Addicted to Art Bell? http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/1282
Member,Board of Directors of afa-b, SKEP-TI-CULT® member #15-51506-253.
You can email me at: jamie_eckles(at)hotmail.com

"There are two rules for success in life:
Rule 1: Don't tell people everything you know."
--Unknown

[John F. Winston]

Now to comment on something:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2001, DrPostman wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:20:34 -0800, "John F. Winston"
> <john...@mlode.com> wrote:
>
> >Subject: The State Of John Winston's Cat. Mar. 29, 2001.
> >
> > As most of you know after the passing away of my dog that I
> >called "Yogi The Telepathic Dog" I had an encounter with a black
> >cat. This cat I call "Radar The Earthquake Predicting Cat".
>
> The bottom line with a cat is that if they choose
> to love you, you know it. Dogs will love just
> about anyone that will feed them. That's why
> I prefer cats to dogs, cats are smarter.
>
> I'm sure Yogi was an exception.

JW This cat is OK but I'm pretty well alergic to cat fur.

[John F. Winston]

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Near Free Energy. Mar. 30, 2001.

I will now be putting down some possible sources of Free Energy.
Some or all of this methods may hoaxes or something to just get your
money.

My teacher or Guru, Merele Fagot had a friend who was a medical
doctor in the Oakland Area, by the name of Dr. Shenderline. They
both are now deceased. The good doctor found out how to build a free
energy device that uses the energy that is in our atmosphere and the
energy that flows between the planets. After he bought the items
for the device and even before he had a chance to assembly the
device he was approached by representatives of the oil industry and
then the electrical power companies. They tried to buy him off. When
asked why they wanted to buy him off they told him that if this device
was allowed to sold to the public, it would drive them out of business.
He refused when they tried to buy him off. They then said he would be
liquidated. He stopped in his attempt to produce the device.

Now we go to the first bit of material. Let's try to check it
out to see whether it is a hoax or not.

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From: D
Subject: New Magnetic-Electric Device Can Power Home From Near Free
Energy Source
By Penny Robins

The Cairns Post - Northern Queensland, OZ 3-8-1
(Note - 'Ergon' refers to the local electricity supplier utility
which used to be known as the FNQEB Far North Queensland Electricity
Board).
Two Cairns inventors yesterday unveiled a world first commercial
machine which can power a house from a permanent, clean, green and
virtually free energy source.
The machine, developed by Brinsmead mechanical engineer John
Christie and Edge Hil electrician Lou Brits, has an international
patent pending and is expected to go on the market for $-000-$-000.
Relying on the attraction and repulsion of internal magnets, the
Lutec 1000 operates continually on a pulse-like current 24 hours a
day.
The device is more than 500 per cent efficient, compared to a car
which is less than 40 per cent efficient and loses power through
heat and friction.
No powerlines would be needed to distribute energy from the
individual power sources.
There is no heat, harmful emissions or airborne matter in the
transmission.
If it were not for the magnets, which have a life of 1300 years,
and the battery pack, which has a life of about five years, the
machine would be in perpetual motion.
A demonstration of the motor from the carpeted study of Mr
Christie's Brinsmead home revealed the device in all its glory -
bigger than the average cyclone back-up generator but much less
noisy.
M Christie and Mr Brits have been tinkering together on the motor
in their spare time since they met in a Sheridan St cafe five years
ago and began sharing ideas.
One and a half years ago, the design was perfected and the pair
lodged a patent with Brisbane patent attorneys Griffith Hack.
Mr Christie said the next step was to develop a small-scale pilot
plant in Cairns to begin distributing the motors to the places they
were needed most - such as shops and homes in the power-starved
Daintree region and the Torres Strait.
He said the price tag for the devices could vary in remote locations
depending on gov-rnment rebates, freight and installation costs.
The beauty of the device was that it was transportable and could be
packed in a removalist van along with other earthly possessions when
moving house, he said.
The only problem the pair now face is in raising $-00,000 to start
their production plant.
"We're trying to keep it local, and trying to keep it in Australia,
but it's hard because, offshore, they are more aggressive in taking
up new initiatives," Mr Christie said.
Already, the invention has received interest from the U-ited States,
Ch-na, Japan and Indonesia.
"But we want to set up here and put the product on the market first,
and then we'll take it to the world," he said.
Mr Christie said it had been hard to keep a lid on the invention
which had such a huge potential in the quest for clean, green, energy
production.
He said he and Mr Brit also feared the worst once they realized the
significance of their invention.
"We were afraid the kids would be kidnapped or we'd be shot, I'm not
kidding," he said.
"You hear horror stories about people running up against f-el
companies, but it's all hogwash - people in the main are desperately
looking for technologies that will help our environment." (JW I
doubt if that statement is exactly true but they said it
themselves.)
The pair have begun discussions with Ergon as there is also the
opportunity of selling energy back to the grid.
Mr Christie said the average home with a pool needed only 14kW of
energy per day - which meant a 10 kW daily excess would be left over
during the generation process.
Griffith Hack's partner Cliff Carew, who was speaking from Brisbane,
confirmed the device was genuine and unique.
"An international application has been lodged, they've conducted an
international search and haven't come up with anything similar, so it
would seem to be a new concept," Mr Carew said.
He said it would be another two and a half years before the patent
was recognized in 140 countries around the world - the usual length
of time for an international patent to be processed.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Chemtrails To The Left Of Us ------ Part 3. Mar. 31, 2001.

This part tells where some of these Chemtrial spraying jets can be
found.

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Note that no viruses are listed above. This is because viruses are
difficult to detect in the laboratory, much less identify. However,
most of the resulting illnesses do not respond to antibiotics,
suggesting their causes are indeed viral. Such viruses are most likely
retroviruses such as the adenovirus for use in the genetic
manipulation.
Chemtrails now appear worldwide, though it has been claimed that
none have been sighted in Chi-a. The Chinese influence on the Cl--ton
presidency has been well established, not to mention the increasing
dependence so many countries now have on Ch-na for both their
manufactured goods and as a source of cheap labor. U.S. mil-tary and
scientific technology has been freely given to C-ina under much
protest in spite of its aggressive stance towards this country. The
New W-rld Order seems to have made Chin- into a new power base for
capitalism since the death of its infamous Communist leader, Mao Tse
Tung.

Although chemtrails in foreign countries may be due to planes
originating from the US, or from US mil-tary bases in those
countries, the heaviness of spraying there suggests that foreign
go-ernments and commercial agencies are also heavily involved.

An answering machine tape recently given to chemtrails researcher
Will Thomas's Lifeboat News Service includes a message allegedly
from the Victoria, British Columbia, Airport Authority's Manager
for Airport P-anning and Environment to city resident Mark Po-ter,
who had inquired about unusual contrail formations being seen in
the sky over the city. It seems to confirm that controversial
"chemtrails" are being spread over that city as a joint U.S.-Canadian
mili-ary operation.
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=392 )

Another researcher in a bedroom community of Portland, OR, a city
which is sprayed often, relates that chemical tankers have been
photographed on the ground at the Oregon Na-ional Guard base
adjacent to the Portland International Airport just a few miles
from his home.

Considering the frequency and density of coverage of the chemtrails,
the urgency of the NW-'s agenda to head off the ascension process is
self-evident. The project has risked discovery by employing commercial
airlines to help with the spraying, and such a risk can only be
justified if the project itself were in the nature of an emergency.
They have also risked their secrecy by spraying during the day
(especially on weekends) to affect as many people as possible, when
all below can plainly see these contrails are anything but.

The altering of one's DNA via incorporation of foreign DNA from
bacteria and viruses is the key to the genetic manipulation of our
beings in order to stop the ascension process from going on within
our bodies. This process is suggested in a Leading Edge article,
quoted as follows (the italicized emphasis is mine):

"One of the indications that vaccinations may in fact be changing
the genetic structure of humans became evident in September of 1971,
when scientists at the University of Geneva made the discovery that
biological substances entering directly into the bloodstream could
become part of human genetic structure.

"In an experiment in Geneva, scientists extracted the auricles of
frog hearts and dipped them for several hours in a suspension of
bacteria. Afterward, they found a high percentage of RNA-DNA
hybridization between bacterial DNA extracted from bacteria of the
same species as that used in the experiment and titrated DNA extracted
from the auricles which had been dipped in the bacterial suspension.
Bacterial DNA had been absorbed by the animal cells. This phenomenon
has been dubbed transcession. There is evidence that this kind of
phenomenon is happening all the time within the human body. It is
conceivable, for example, that heart damage following rheumatic fever
could be the result of the immune system reacting to its own cells
producing a foreign RNA complex after absorption of foreign DNA."
(see link)

For those interested in the transcession capability of vaccines,
consider this quote about gene therapy:

"Yet another technique is to simply inject naked DNA. This approach
wouldn't work well as direct injection into the bloodstream because
the body's DNA degrading enzymes would quickly digest it. But some
experiments have shown that when naked DNA is injected directly into
muscle tissue [as in a vaccine injection], say, the cells start
producing whatever proteins the DNA codes for."

In other words, transcession is the process whereby bacterial DNA
becomes part of a host cell's DNA. The term transcession is more
commonly known as transduction, or conjugation, more generally termed
horizontal gene transfer. Horizontal means between species, as
opposed to vertical which is from parent to offspring.

This is one way gene therapy seeks to correct genetic diseases,
but it can also obviously be used to create genetic mutations of a
different kind.

Here's another excerpt from an article confirming the use of
viruses in gene therapy:

"To turn viruses into gene ferries, scientists have developed ways
of stripping the genes out of a virus and substituting copies of
the genes they want to transfer into cells. The virus is then mixed
with cells taken out of the body that are then returned. Or they
can be injected directly into the body itself, homing in on the
cells of interest. Retroviruses, which insert their genetic code
directly into the chromosomes of the host cell, have been used a lot
because of their ability to break into chromosomes and insert the
DNA. Other viruses are now also being used. One of the big drawbacks
of viruses is that the immune system can't tell the difference
between bad viruses and those that carry a beneficial gene. So,
many of the viruses are rapidly wiped out [that is, of course,
unless the immune system is weakened by other chemical/biological
agents such that these viruses survive long enough to transduce
their DNA into the host]."
The article which first got me interested in this whole field
was one I found in a newspaper about viruses being found in the
tails of comets passing through space. The theory was that this
might be how "life" and diseases could be spread from one planet to
another, like in some weird science fiction movie such as Day of the
Triffids or Invasion of the Body Snatchers. To exist in such an
environment as space, however, viruses would not be considered a
life form as such. Viruses tend to travel through the nervous system,
and are more like a parasite, living off its biological host - a true
alien invasion indeed, energy vampires, much like those creatures
portrayed in the recent hit movie, The Matrix, for the nervous system
is in fact the electromagnetic system of the body.
Non-invasive methods of gene therapy are already well established.
A team at the Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia
accomplished just that using an oral method of gene therapy. Even
madsci.org has something to say about these non-invasive methods:
Gene therapy is one of the most interesting and valuable techniques
to come out of the field of genetic engineering.
The adenovirus used to deliver the CF gene to human cells for gene
therapy is known as a vector. Since most cells normally will not
take in or absorb DNA, we need a delivery system to get the gene
into the cell. Adenovirus is a good vector since it can infect cells
in vivo, or while they're in the body, which means that the gene can
be delivered through an inhaler (instead of having to manipulate the
cells in vitro, or in the laboratory, then return the cells to the
body). To use the adenovirus as a vector, it's genome was first
altered by removing all the virus DNA except for the minimum necessary
for the virus to live and infect the cells. Genetically engineered
viral vectors like this are harmless and usually can't live outside
of the laboratory.

"But some virus vectors are not without drawbacks: All viral
approaches suffer from the drawback of introducing unwanted viral
genetic information into the recipient host. Retroviral vectors and
adenoviruses have additional disadvantages. Retroviruses are only
suitable for delivery of DNA to replicating cells, and present a
risk of reversion to replication competent infective particles,
whilst DNA expression using adenovirus delivery systems tends to be
short lived [thus the need for the repeated chemtrail sprayings over
the past two years in the same geographic areas and the use of a host
of vectors to ensure success if one fails]."

"A novel vector with potential for use in gene therapy has been
developed by Professor Beverly Griffin and colleagues in the
Department of In-ectious Diseases at the Hammersmith Hospital Campus
of Imperial College. Her team has shown that pseudocapsids of the
mouse polyoma virus, consisting solely of the VP1 protein, can be used
to transfer DNA into mammalian cells in vivo, to give expression at
clinically-relevant levels over a period of weeks." This work and its
subsequent implications suggests a reason for the dramatically
increased investment by go-ernments and industry alike over the past
few decades into research at educational institutions of higher
learning --now part of the expanded mi-itary-industrial-education
complex. It also should make us all stop and remember the Hanta
virus carried by the deer mice of the Four Corners region of the
Uni-ed States and its subsequent deadly effects over the past decade.

Part 3.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[DrPostman]

On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:43:32 -0800, "John F. Winston"
<john...@mlode.com> wrote:

>JW This cat is OK but I'm pretty well alergic to cat fur.

Me too John. But I found that you can get desensitized
after a while to a cat you have. Along with some good
antihistamines. It's worth the trade off.

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Possible Contact With Space People. April 2, 2001.

Here is something that I just received from an Internet friend of
mine. I don't know whether it is the truth or a hoax. In the past
it has not been good to put a certain date on the time when the
space people are going to do something, but who knows maybe this will
happen as it is stated. I hope it happens and I'm going to keep
my finger crossed. This may have been sent to me on April first
so be as wise serpents and harmless as doves.

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From: J
Subject: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE TO: ALL PRESS MEDIA
TO: ALL PRESS MEDIA
FROM: GALACTIC COMMAND
We are now in contact with off planet beings. Your president will
make a formal announcement Monday morning at 8 am on all networks.
Stay home from work if you have to. This historical information is
too much to miss.
Space ships the size of mother ships have already been seen off
the California above the Pacific Ocean. Others have been spotted off
the east coast low over the Atlantic Ocean.
The President is expected to calm the people by assuring us that
the visitors from outer space are harmless. In fact they come here
to help us with our pollution problems, in fact they say we only
have 23 years left to live on this planet at our present rate of
pollution. Don't panic or leave your homes. Keep your kids home
from school. They will want to remember where they were when they
heard the first contact speech by any president in history.
Space ships are expected to land on the white house lawn. They
will be greeted by the Un-ted Nations Secretary General first. Then
England's Prime Minister, then France's, then Germany's. Finally the
president of the Uni-ed States will take the stage to have a
conversation with the emissary from outer space.
They will announce they are from the star Sirius and the Galaxy
Pleds. The Sirians were our father aspect, stern, strict,
intellectual. The Pleiadians were our mother aspect, loving,
intuitive, nurturing. They will say, we have watched you grow for
centuries. Now we are here for the harvest. We want to take you home
with us, (many will cheer at this.) But first we must return your
planet back to the pristine condition it was in before your factories
ruined it.
They will outline a plan whereby aliens and humans will work hand
in hand to do this task. In three years we will walk in an Eden of
verdant, green, beautiful gardens, breathe clean air once more. Then
the Lion will lay down with the Lamb. And Peace shall reign for
1000 years.
end
[stay tuned for updates]
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http://earth.vol.com/~voltron//

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[xxbyte]

These peole must feel very silly when the space people don't arrive on the
date they have set. How can they contiune to believe when it never happens?

John F. Winston <john...@mlode.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.BSF.3.96.101040...@shell.mlode.com...

[DrPostman]

On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 16:21:29 GMT, "xxbyte" <xxb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>These peole must feel very silly when the space people don't arrive on the
>date they have set. How can they contiune to believe when it never happens?

Sounds familiar. Sort of messianic.

[John F. Winston]

Dear Folks: The posting about the Landing of the Space People
just turned out to be a April fools joke by the person who sent it
to me.
John Winston.

Subject: Chemtrails To The Left of Us---- Part 4. April 2, 2001.

This part even talks about Aspartame and how it can be used to
control us.

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"Polyoma virus has a very broad host range which means that the
pseudocapsids will be taken up by essentially any human or other
mammalian cell. Development and selection of mutant VP1 proteins,
together with engineered specific labels may enable cell-specific
targeting for in vivo applications. Pseudocapsids completely free of
viral genetic material can be produced easily and economically."

In other words, the technology already exists for allowing virus
vectors to effectively alter the DNA of a host's cell. This is not
science fiction.
One company among many, A-A Technology, is presently researching
and selling aerosol products for use in gene therapy.

From the evidence available then, adenovirus vectors are the most
likely culprits in chemtrail-related sicknesses, and in summary,
both bacteria and viruses are capable of incorporating some of their
own genetic information into the cells of a host. Bacteria do it via
transduction and conjugation, and viruses via direct infection of a
cell.

Conceivably then, one could become infected with either such a
bacteria or virus and would feel sick as a consequence. Meanwhile,
the bacteria or virus goes to work altering one's cellular DNA slowly,
before later being wiped out by the body's immune system. After the
illness is eliminated, the ---ltered cells remain and continue to
reproduce. Sometimes it becomes malignantly can-erous if the gene
transfer is crude and faulty (as in vaccinations), and other times
the changes are so subtle the body continues to operate as previously,
or so the victim thinks (as in chemtrail exposure).

The easiest way to mutate our DNA is through a virus [in this
case, the easiest way to un-mutate DNA or suppress it from mutating
is also a virus. The chemtrails then are ultimately attacking our
cellular DNA-it's only possible explanation to head off the pending
ascension process to keep us as a slave race to do the bidding of
our masters. (Once again, the full story of this will be available by
the end of April at my website http://starstream.com/treeoflife).

Mutation and its implications are therefore most relevant in
explaining chemtrails. The X-Men movie is a good analogy for what is
happening here on planet Earth at this very time.

It has also been confirmed that DNA's crystalline helical structure
makes it very sensitive to low strength but specific magnetic
frequencies and wave shapes. Depending on the field strength and
Fourier components, the effects can vary from rejuvenation to ca-cer,
with one possible effect being the unlocking or suppression of junk
DNA. Since some of the "new" strands of DNA are actually
electromagnetic or multi-dimensional in nature, DNA is also sensitive
to not just earthly electromagnetic fields, but it also responds
to the body's soul-nature. Soul nature is the vibrational
etheric/astral composition or signature of a particular soul. Genetic
structure and soul-nature are intimately coupled; a change in one
can lead to a delayed change in the other.

Manipulation or control of our earthly behavior can simply be
garnered by the use of low-watt microwave transmissions, the effects
to the cerebellum of the human brain when it is within three feet of
such a device are devastating to the organ. FM, AM, and the microwave
GWEN towers can all be used to manipulate or to control the unruly
masses in this way.

The author of some of this included material (the full text of
which can be found at:
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/montalk/chemtrails.html) gives as his
conclusion the following: "Humanity is evolving, emerging from the
past millennia of abysmal darkness and oppression. The power
structure, knowing its reign is about to end, has worked tirelessly
in a last ditch effort to keep us suppressed. Chemtrails are but one
small weapon they are employing to accomplish this." A very true
statement. His suggestion that " their ultimate goal is a New Wor-d
Order, global totalitarianism and a reinstatement of their absolute
power" and that "the N-O will fail if citizens become genetically
empowered to wake up and fight with superhuman powers against
tyranny" and that "this is already occurring, and the chemtrails are
ultimately ineffectual at preventing the inevitable" is highly
debatable, however. It is even incorrect in terms of what is truly
going on. It is fairly obvious to anyone who tries to talk to the
"man in the street" that firstly, they haven't noticed this problem;
secondly, that if they have noticed it they simply don't seem to
care about it; and thirdly, that if they have seen them and do seem
to care, then they certainly do not feel they have any power to do
anything about them, and so must just suffer.

As I've said in previous articles, despite what you read anywhere
else, the general consciousness of planet Earth has decided NOT to
go on with the ascension process - whether this be through coercion
or through their own free will, does not really matter. There is now
only the choice left to the individual whether he or she wants to
take that next step for themselves, into a higher dimensional state.

Two 'anonymous' emails sent to www.SurfingtheApocalypse.com seemed
to come from someone in the know on the subject of chemtrails. These
e-mails talk about the "culling" of the population. This is a word
I, too, have been given in guidance as another aspect of the
chemtrails. It is also a word used in these e-mails as being
attributed to a four-star Admiral in the Office of N-val
Intelligence.

One of these e-mails has been titled 'The Great Dying -- The Real
Reason Behind Chemtrails.' It speaks of the overall scope and agenda
behind Chemtrails (Operation Clover Leaf, Operation Red Sky,
Operation Rain Dance being the code names for these operations), and
harkens back to what it calls the beginnings "way back in the late
1950s" with fluoridation, aspartame, and illegal street narcotics."
It also speaks of the fact that the agenda is "at the 80% completion
point in these CT operations" (when the e-mails were written) with
the final completion date to be "by March of 2001."

The e-mails list as the main and ancillary operational objectives
of Chemtrails of Operation Red Sky to be: "Phase One main objective:
Creative cleavages in spatial perceptions. Creating blockage in the
brain of the interaction of various amino acids that relate to higher
consciousness and the increase of dopamine in the brain producing a
listless, euphoric state of lower, reactive mind. (Thereby trapping
us in the third dimension-the choice of the lower plane energy as
talked about in my previous article on Choice.)
To understand this objective necessitates an understanding of the
human Soul, the sp-ritual Self and the connection between the two as
related to the endocrine system functioning within each human host,
and remembering what Dr. Fox said about our immune and endocrine
systems showing the most evidence of these changes-these seeming to
be the most important targets of the chemtrail's ingredients.

The endocrine system is the group of specialized organs and body
tissues that produce, store, and secrete chemical substances known
as hormones. As the body's chemical messengers, hormones transfer
information and instructions from one set of cells to another.
Because of the hormones they produce, endocrine organs have a great
deal of influence over the body.
Among their many jobs are regulating the body's growth and
development, controlling the function of various tissues, supporting
pregnancy and other reproductive functions, and regulating metabolism.
Endocrine organs are sometimes called ductless glands because they
have no ducts connecting them to specific body parts. The hormones
they secrete are released directly into the bloodstream.

Part 4.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Part 5 of 5.

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The primary glands comprising the endocrine system are the
hypothalamus, pituitary, thyroid, parathyroid, adrenal, pineal body,
and reproductive glands-the ovary and testis. The pancreas, an organ
often associated with the digestive system, is also considered part
of the endocrine system.

The hypothalamus, found deep within the brain, directly controls the
pituitary gland (also known to be the source of psychic vision or what
spir-tualists call "the third eye," that which sees
inter-dimensionally).
It is sometimes described as the coordinator of the endocrine
system. When information reaching the brain indicates that changes
are needed somewhere in the body, nerve cells in the hypothalamus
secrete body chemicals that either stimulate or suppress hormone
secretions from the pituitary gland.
Acting as liaison between the brain and the pituitary gland, the
hypothalamus is the primary link between the endocrine and nervous
systems (remembering that viruses commonly travel through the nervous
system). If changes are to take place in the body, then this system
is also the guardian over those changes as well as being the director
of them. To genetically manipulate mankind through the ingredients in
the chemtrails, one must first suppress the endocrine system, and
second, the natural defenses of the immune system-the two most
directly targeted areas of chemtrail spraying.

The e-mails go on to say that the goals of the chemtrails are to
make "the overall "frequency" of each of their charges (human beings
in each country) to function at a specific rate below the threshold of
awareness. The study of brain-wave, Remote Viewing techniques, and
other related research holds the key to this. As we know, a physical
brain functioning at 12 to 14 cycles per second is agitated and
cannot, therefore, become perceptive of any cycle not within the
same frequency, especially if that BRAIN IS ARTIFICIALLY stabilized
to that frequency. How can one perceive love, when the brain can
only register impatience, anger, etc?"

FEAR is a key factor here, and it is through fear that we open
ourselves up to control. Fear is the frequency which registers most
with our fourth and fifth dimensional manipulators, and allows our
auras, our protective shields, to be breached, leaving us open to
their Light-sucking, energy-sucking control.

The e-mails also say that "the immune system of the host must be
depleted. This relates to control, simply put. If the slightest
breeze makes you dizzy, what kind of defense can you be expected to
put up if you can't lift your arms above your head without getting
a headache? . . . This is the main reason for much of the
desiccated red blood cells found in chemtrails: biowarfare. This
also allows the parasite to latch onto the human host with little
resistance from the organism so attached."

The third and last objective the e-mails point out are that the
NW- needs our agreement. David Icke stresses this point in his work
as well. The e-mails continue:

"This last statement is by far the MOST CRUCIAL STAGE of all. It
isn't enough to make us slaves, we MUST WANT TO BECOME SLAVES. Food
scarcity, low wages, false idealism as propagated via network
commercials, all create a state of low-level dependency to a state
system, but it is not enough. To win . . . (they) need our permission
to do what they will to us (Universal Law). The system of this
biosphere has one final gate that only each of us can open or close
and it is, in fact, free will . . ."

How and when will they do this? According to the e-mails "a fake
alien invasion" or a biowarfare incident on a major U.S., European or
Australian city could be used to trigger us to give up out free will
in return for the safety and protection of a seemingly benevolent but
in the end dictatorial force. With regard to this, be careful of
'announced disclosures' from seemingly reputable alien-seeking
organizations. The control goes deeper than you suspect, and these
organizations are needed to feed this supposed threat. As any good
researcher or experiencer can tell you, they are already here-in more
ways than you know.

Preserve your free will. Make a choice for ascension rather than
remaining. Utilize love in all your actions rather than dwelling in
fear. Be an observer rather than a victim. And trust that there are
THOSE who care about what is going on here, and will take care of
things as long as you do your part.

Have faith. I wish you strength.

Source List:

Chemtrails: Suppressing Human Evolution
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/montalk/chemtrails.html
montalk 9/29/00

The answering machine tape
( http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=392 )

Two 'anonymous' emails --'The Great Dying -- The Real Reason Behind
Chemtrails.'

RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY http://www.rumormillnews.com Rayelan Allan,
Publisher www.SurfingtheApocalypse.com

Chemtrail ingredients
http://www.egroups.com/message/fr2/126,
http://www.carnicom.com/bio1.htm,
and http://members.tripod.com/conspiracy2/contrailsanalyzed.htm)

Peter Farley is an Australian-born journalist, writer, lecturer,
teacher, metaphysical researcher, and spi-itual healer. He is author
of the upcoming book, Where Were You Before the Tree of Life? --the
history of alien interaction with the Earth, past, present, and into
the near future; especially its formative role in the global
conspiracy known as the New Wo-ld Order. The four volume galley set
of this book can be pre-ordered for $-00 US through the website
address (additional postage for overseas addresses).

He has worked for different newspapers over the years, including
the Roswell Daily Record in Roswell, NM. He currently writes for
a variety of publications on the topic of aliens, earth changes and
the future of the planet, including the David Icke E-magazine. In
1998, working with noted abductee-counselor and author Budd Hopkins,
he was the original organizer of the Abductee Forum at the Roswell
UFO Festival. He still works with other abductees. He has appeared
on national talk radio. He was a featured speaker at the Roswell
UFO Festival 2000 and the first-ever Santa Fe UFO Fiesta. He currently
makes his home in Roswell, NM. He can be contacted by mail at:
P.O. Box 8231, Roswell, NM 88202 or by e-mail at
PETE...@hotmail.com His website address is
http://starstream.com/treeoflife
***BREATHE in and BREATHE out LIGHT and LOVE daily.

Part 5 of 5.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Was The Ark A Spaceship? April 3, 2001.

Here is some information about Noah's Ark.

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From: D
Subject: Chapter 13: WAS NOAH'S ARK A SAUCER-SHAPED SUBMERSIBLE?
Hmmm...interesting...
--D

FLYING SERPENTS AND DRAGONS
By R. A. Boulay )1990

Editorial Comments By Roberto Sol`rion )1997
Chapter 13: WAS NOAH'S ARK A SAUCER-SHAPED SUBMERSIBLE?
"The ship that thou shall build, her dimensions shall be to measure.
Equal shall be her width and her length. Like the Abzu thou shall
seal her." -
Sumerian Account of the Ark

THE UNUSUAL DESIGN OF NOAH'S ARK

The Ark of Noah is usually depicted in illustrations as an ancient
sea-going ship with rounded hull, pointed prow and stern, with a keel
running the full length of the ship. On its deck a cabin is shown
running the length of the ship.
This is pure fantasy, of course, based on current designs of the
late Middle Ages in Europe. We have absolutely no idea of exactly
what the Ark looked like. There are only two descriptions of the ship
in ancient literature, neither of which is very satisfactory from
naval engineering standards, since they are completely unseaworthy
designs.
The Old Testament describes it as a rectangular box with straight
sides, no bow, no keel or hull. In fact the Hebrew word used for the
ship is that of a box or container. However, the Hebrews can be
excused for their preposterous interpretation since they were a
land-locked people and had little, if any, experience with ships.
But that is no excuse for the description of the Ark in the
Sumerian account of the Deluge. There is is depicted as a cube, if
the translators are to be believed. This is not very convincing in
view of the fact that the Mesopotamians were a sea-going nation.
Sumerians and later peoples were well acquainted with the principles
of ship building and seaworthiness. All Sumerian cities had access to
the sea and sea-going ships are often described at anchor at these
Sumerian ports.
Obviously, there is something amiss in the Sumerian accounts or in
the translation and interpretation of the text that is provided. For
a sea-going people to describe the Ark as a cube is completely
nonsensical.

THE ARK IN GE-ESIS

The information in the Old Tes-ament that is available concerning the
configuration of Noah's Ark is derived from Gen-sis 6. There are scraps
of information from other religious sources. The complete text of
G-nesis which provides the description of the Ark is as follows:
"Make yourself an ark (box) of gopher wood; make it an ark with
compartments, and cover it inside and out with pitch. This is how you
shall build it: the length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits,
its width fifty cubits, and its height thirty cubits. Make a sky
light for the ark, terminating it within a cubit of the top. Put the
entrance in the side of the ark, which is to be made with lower,
second, and third decks."
The ark is called "teba" which means a box, chest, or compartment
in Hebrew. It is described as a rectangular box with a flat bottom
and straight sides, 300 cubits long, 50 wide, and 30 high. Since a
Hebrew cubit was 18 inches [45 centimeters], its dimensions were 450
feet long [162 meters], 75 feet wide [27 meters], and 45 feet high
[16.2 meters], and as such was said to displace 43,300 tons.
While the Hebrews had a perfectly good word for ship, for some
reason they chose to call it a box or chest. This box of Noah was
not a seaworthy craft and as described was merely a rectangular box
without keel, bow and aft braces, and other essentials required of
sea-going ships.
This rectangular box of Noah would have tossed and pitched
uncontrollably in stormy seas, and surely would have turned turtle
time and time again, making a complete jumble of the occupants.
Perhaps the Hebrews called it a box or chest rather than a ship
because they were a land-locked people and knew nothing of sea or
river navigation, much less ship design and construction.
The Hebrew chroniclers may have felt that the word for container
would be more understandable to their pastoral people. It indicates
that the flood legend was undoubtedly manipulated and modified by
the early Hebrew priests to suit their purposes.
The story of the great flood was known world-wide and in the Middle
East can be found in the Gilgamesh Epic which is believed to have
been written down about 2000 BC, from Sumerian accounts which go
back to the days of a king called Gilgamesh who ruled in the 28th
or 29th Century BC.
The earliest part of Gene-is was not written down much earlier than
1000 BC, and apparently is a version of the Sumerian account which
circulated in Mesopotamia and the Levant in Akkadian or Semitic form.
It indicates that the Old Testament story went through a number of
changes and emendations until it became part of the Book of G-nesis.
This "box" of Noah had three decks and numerous unspecified cells or
compartments. It had a door on its side and an opening below the roof
line to let in light. The phrase "make a sky light for the ark,
terminating it with in a cubit of the top" has been interpreted by
many B-blical scholars to mean that Noah was to construct an opening
for light completely around the ark.
The craft was built of gopher wood, an expression that is completely
unidentified. The word has no Sumerian or Akkadian origins and is a
complete mystery since it appears nowhere else in the Scriptures. In
view of the following evidence, we suggest that it does not refer to
a natural wood but that it may be a treated wood, made waterproof by
an impregnation process much like today's pressure-treated lumber.

THE PROBLEMS WITH THE DESIGN OF THE SUMERIAN ARK

The oldest known story of the Deluge is found in the Gilgamesh Epic
where Utnapishtim is told to build a ship in order to survive the
coming catastrophe. The Sumerian name of the hero is Ziusdra, as it
is used in the Atrahasis Epic, the original account of the Deluge.
Utnapishtim is the Akkadian or Semitic name for the hero and as such
is the hero of the Gilgamesh Epic, the better known Semitic version
of the Deluge story.
In the Sumerian account, the word used is "magurgur" or "very great
ship." In the Akkadian or Semitic version of the epic, it is also
called a great ship of "elippu rabitu."
Unlike the three decks of the ark of Noah, the ark of Utnapishtim
has seven decks and is then divided into nine sections or
compartments. It had a door and some sort of window as well.
Traditional translations reports the craft as being an exact cube,
with the height, length, and width each being 120 cubits. Since the
Akkadian cubit was 20 inches [46 centimeters], the craft would be a
perfect cube 200 feet [72 meters] on each side.

[John F. Winston]

]Part 2 of 2.

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Again we have that nagging problem of unseaworthiness. While
scholars have insisted on translating the configuration of the Ark
of Utnapishtim as a perfect cube, common sense tells us that this
design is completely impractical.
A cube would be highly unstable and roll incessantly in stormy seas.
The occupants would really be scrambled up! With its human and animal
cargo, it would seem that stability would be the uppermost factor in
the design and construction of the craft.
In his study The Gilgamesh Epic and Old Testament Parallels, the
noted scholar Aleksander Heidel brought up the problem of
interpretation where certain scholars believe that a circular design
of the ark would be much more practical and that the text lends
itself easily to this interpretation.
Their views, however, have been summarily dismissed by other
scholars. It is not clear in the text that the figure for the width
of the ship of 200 feet applies to the diameter or the radius of the
craft. If the latter is true, then the ship would be 400 feet
[144 meters] in diameter and 200 feet in height or thickness.
Furthermore, the Sumerian account does not mention a cube but merely
states that "equal shall be her width and her length." This certainly
applies to a circular design as well.
If a circular design is postulated, then the nine compartment would
radiate like spokes from a wheel, in the form of pie-shaped sections.
A streamlined ellipsoid design, such as found in modern submersibles
would certainly have made more sense and provided stability in the
tempestuous seas for which it was intended.
The Sumerian account also reveals that the g-d Shamash [Prince Utu,
Nibiruan Space Commander] played a key but unidentified role in its
construction as well as advising Utnapishtim when to launch the ship.
Since Enki was the Sumerian G-d of Shipbuilding and logically the
advisor on ship construction, by all tradition he should have been
the one dealing with Utnapishtim, rather than Shamash, the -od and
chief astronaut who was in charge of rocket operations. This divine
assistance is also noted in the ancient rel-gious document The
Ethiopic Book of Enoch, where the Ark is said to have been designed
by the deity and built by a group of angels which presumably are the
engineer astronauts of Shamash.
The circular shape of the Ark with a row of windows along the top
and designed by the Chief Astronaut Shamash would in all probability
result in an oval or saucer shaped craft. There is also evidence
that the Ark of Utnapishtim was propelled by some sort of fuel rod as
part of a propulsion system, thus making it maneuverable and able to
maintain stability in the stormy seas it was intended for.
[Editor: Once again we perhaps need to be reminded that Noah's
physiology and brain were no different from the physiologies and
brains that we have today. If a modern person can be trained to
maneuver a submarine, then Noah and his family could have been so
trained as well.]

THE SUMERIAN PUNTING POLES OR FUEL RODS

When the Sumerian craft was being built and waterproofed and before
it was completed, certain items called "punting poles" were loaded
aboard. Utnapishtim describes how "I provided punting poles and
stored up a supply."
Apparently these were of paramount importance for they were loaded
while the construction was going on and before the Ark was finished.
Only then were the food, supplies, and personnel brought aboard.
It is quite puzzling why Utnapishtim would require punting poles,
such as those used by current day river boats to cross shallow waters.
This was a closed and sealed craft and again we see the traditional
translation and interpretation as illogical.
This strange item also appears earlier in the epic at the time that
Gilgamesh had to cross a dangerous area called the "sea of death," in
order to reach his grandfather Utnapishtim who was reportedly with
the g-ds. While this dangerous "sea" which he had to cross has been
interpreted as a watery area, it may very well have been a metaphor
for a journey through that vast sea of air called the atmosphere, that
had to be traversed to reach the go-s.
For this trip, Gilgamesh had to procure 120 of these punting or
thrusting poles. These could be used only once and were consumed as
they were used. Each pole was good for only one thrust and then became
contaminated and had to be thrown away.
For want of a better name, they have been called "punting poles,"
no doubt influenced by modern day river craft, but the meaning is not
clear and basically the term means a thrusting stick or rod.
In modern terms we would describe them as fuel rods since they were
associated with the propulsion system of a ship. In this sense, they
could be either fuel rods inserted into a nuclear reactor in order
to control its energy output or, more probably, tubes or rods filled
with solid propellant used in some sort of rocket propulsion system.
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JW Who knows, maybe Noah's Ark really exists and is still covered
by ice that only melts during the summer months. This would be on Mt.
Ararat. In some of the teachings that were given to me a long time
ago, I was told that there a seven big spaceships called "The Seven
Cities of Shan." Shan is another name for our Earth. These ships
are miles in length and can be called in like large arks, thus giving
transportation when a civilization wants to be moved to another planet.
There is also a space craft called "The Star Of Bethlehem" which is
1,500 miles square and you probably know all about it.

[xxbyte]

Question for John Winston,

why do you have dases where some of the letters should be?

Just w-ndering.

[John F. Winston]

Now to comment on something.

JW
I make the same postings to many different groups and lists, some of
which don't want to hear anything religious or controversial, so
therefore I blank out certain words.

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Now You'll Hear The Rest Of The Story. April 5, 2001.

Here is something a person sent me today.

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Subject: True Story
From: C
I heard this one on Paul Harvey this morning and thought you would
enjoy it. I really did! Hope you are doing well!!
In Wisconsin a Policeman stopped a car.
Driver, "What's the problem, Officer?"
Policeman, "No problem. We like to stop Good drivers also to thank
them for driving so safely."
Driver, "Does that mean I will get my revoked license back?"
Passenger in the front seat, "Don't listen to him, Officer. He
always runs off at the mouth when he has had a little to much to
drink."
Passenger from the back seat, "I told you we would not get far in
this stolen car."
Muffled voice from the trunk, "Are we across the border yet?"
True story!
Hope you have a great day!
Mr. B

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: The Devil Made Me Do It. April 5, 2001.

A comedian used to make fun of certain practices by stating that
when he did something wrong that the "Devil Made Me Do It." I
wonder what is happening today when Lucifer has turned to the Light
and is now working for the good guys, who are these people claiming
as their leader.
Here is some information sent to me by my interdimensional friend
called Winifred. It is very drastic so I'll have to put quite a few
blanks in the words.

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From: W

Subject: FACING THE UNIMAGINABLE]
THE GALACTIC FEDERATION OF LIGHT FORCES
ON HIS MAJESTY'S SERVICE
http://www.reach.net/~wbarton
http://www.reach.net/~star1
"LET THERE BE LIGHT!"
************************************
From: W
To: fifth <fi...@toronto.cbc.ca>

Dear Fifth Estate:

Our program on porn-graphy shivered my 77 year old timbres. A friend
sent me this letter the next day. Under normal circumstances I would
dismiss the content as insanity. But newspaper morgues (Holland
horrors, Solar Temple, Children of G-d etc.) telling stories of child
abuse make me wonder. Has the Fifth Estate got its foot in the door
of a greater profundity.
Do we have to face the UNIMAGINABLE? -
Yours truly, W.
++++++++++++++++
Win: This is HEAVY S---. I had to sit down it was so knarly. But I
know this is the "thing" we are here to bring down and STOP. It's
been going on for more years than we can ever imagine and from planet
to planet. It is at the very core of all the old "cosmic" dramas and
battles, and truly is the final battle between good and ev-l.
It is going to be VERY hard for you to read this stuff, Don't eat
anything right before reading the following, but I need you to read it
and help me get this out. My mission is becoming LOUD and CLEAR. I
LOVE YOU
- S

Subject: THE BIGGEST SECRET - by David Ickee

This is the chapter I just finished in the same book as before. Its
call "The Biggest Secret" by David Ickee this is tough to hear and
read, but it needs to be addressed and STOPPED. LOVE LOVE LOVE
S
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

CHAPTER FIFTEEN

Satan's children
The black magic rituals we know as Satanism are the modern
expression of the rituals and human sacrifice in ancient Babylon and
the Brotherhood infiltrated societies of the Sumerian, Phoenician,
Hittite, Egyptian, Canaanite and Akkadian peoples, among many others
across the world. It has been a seamless procession through history
of the same rituals to the same deities and this remains of
fundamental importance to the initiates of the Brotherhood today.
My use of the term Satanism has nothing to do with the Chr-stian
version of Satan. I use it only to describe a system of ritual
sacrifice and torture which, staggering as it may seem to most
people, is commonplace all over the world today Satanism is just
another name for the worship of a highly destructive, negative force
which has been given endless names over the centuries: Nimrod,(JW I
never considered Nimrod to be a bad person.) Baal, Moloch or Molech,
Set, the Devil, Lucifer, there is no end to them.
Satanism perverts everything positive in the same way that the
Nazis took a positive symbol, the swastika, and turned it around to
symbolize the negative.
This is why the Satanists invert the pentagram and why they use
b-ack to symbolize the darkness, hence their Bla-k Mass. But they
also reverse the symbolism of wh-te and that is a powerfully
negative color to them. The Satanic networks, under the names of
their various deities, were created by the Babylonian Brotherhood
to serve their needs. We have seen that the accounts of the
Watchers and their offspring, the Nefilim, include references to
their bl-od drinking activities. The Brotherhood know that blo-d
contains the life-force energy. Drinking men-trual b-ood has always
been a featuic of the reptilian bloodlines because they need blood
to live in this dimension. It was known as the Star Fire, the
female lunar essence. The female m-nstrual cycle is governed by the
cycles of the Moon and the blo-d contains that energy. It's
ingredients are supposed to ensure a long life. In India it was
called soma and in Greece it was ambrosia. (JW There is a dessert
that is called Ambrosia and I like it very much. The word means
"Food Of The Go-s.) This was said to be the nectar of the -ods and
it was - the reptilian g-ds who are genetic blo-d drinkers. The
'holy grail' chalice or cup is also symbolic of the womb and
drinking me-strual blood, as well as being a symbol of the reptilian
'royal' bl-odline itself. Men-trual blood was provided for the E-ite
of the reptilian 'royal' line by virgin priestesses and this is the
origin of the term 'Scarlet Woman' or to the Greeks, 'Sacred Woman'.
The Greek word for this, Hierodulai, was eventually translated into
English as ha-lot and into German as 'ho-es', the original of wh-re.
The word ritual derives from this practice (ritu = redriess) and so
do the words rite and ied. Men-trual blo-d is one reason why the color
red is so important to Satanists and it is another reason for the
constant use of the color gold by the 'royal' bloodlines. Gold is
called the metal of the go-s, but to the Anunnaki of the Sumerian
Tablets, mens-rual blood was the 'gold of the -ods'.
The reptilians and their crossbreeds drink b-ood because they are
drinking the person's life-force and because they need it to exist in
this dimension. They will often shape-shift into reptilians when
drinking human bl-od and eating human fl-sh, I am told by those who
have seen this happen. Bl-od drinking is in their genes and an El-te
high priestess or 'Mother G-ddess' in the hierarchy, who performed
rituals for the Brotherhood at the highest level, told me that
without human bl-od the reptilians cannot survive in this dimension.
Her name is Arizona Wilder, formerly Jennifer Ann Green. Interestingly,
she said that the reptilians had been pursuing the Ar-an peoples
around the universe, because the bloo- of the w-ite r-ce was
particularly important to them for some reason and the blondhaired,
blue-eyed genetic stream was the one they wanted more than any other.
They had followed the wh-te ra-e to Mars, she said, and then came to
Earth with them. It is far from impossible that the reptilian arrival
on this planet in numbers was far more recent than even many
researchers imagine. An interbreeding program only a few thousand
years ago between the reptilian Anunnaki and wh-te Martian bloodlines
already interbred with the reptilians; on Mars, would have produced
a very high reptilian genetic content. This is vital for the reasons
I have explained earlier. They appear to need a particular ratio of
reptilian genes before they can shape-shift in the way that they do.
But when the interbreeding happened is far less important than the
fact that it did happen.
Satanism is based on the manipulation of energy and consciousness.
These deeply sick rituals create an energy field, a vibrational
frequency, which connects the consciousness of the participants to
the reptilians and other consciousness of the lower fourth dimension.
This is the dimensional field, also known as the lower astral to
many people, which resonates to the frequency of low vibrational
emotions like fear, guilt, hate and so on. When a ritual focuses
these emotions, as Satanism does, a powerful connection is made
with the lower fourth dimension, the reptilians. These are some of
the 'demons' which these rituals have been designed to summon since
this whole sad story began thousands of years ago. This is when so
much possession takes place and the reptilians take over the
initiate's physical body. The leading Satanists are full-bl-od
reptilians cloaked in a human form. These rituals invariably take
place on vortex points and so the terror horror, and hatred, created
by them enters the global energy grid and affects the Earth's
magnetic field. Thought forms of that scale of malevolence hold
down the vibrational frequency and affect human thought and emotion.
Go to a place where Satanic rituals take place and feel the
malevolence and fear in the atmosphere. What we call 'atmosphere'
is the vibrational field and how it has been affected by human
thought forms. Thus we talk about a happy, light or loving atmosphere,
or a dark or foreboding one. The closer the Earth's field is
vibrationally to the lower fourth dimension, the more power the
reptilians have over this world and its inhabitants. Satanism is not
just a sickness and a perversion, although it is that also, its
main reason for existence, from the Brotherhood's point of view, is
to control the Earth's magnetic field; to worship and connect with
their reptile masters; to drink the life- force of their sacrificed
victims; and to provide energy for the reptilians who appear to feed
off human emotion, especially fear. These sacrifices are, literally,
sacrifices to the 'go-s', the reptilians, and they have been
happening for thousands of years. The mass sacrifice of people by
the Aztecs in Central America, and so many others, were to provide
or the physical reptilians and crossbreeds who eat the bo-ies and
drink the bl-od, and energy nourishment for the non-physical
reptilians of the lower fourth dimension. Phil Schneider, a builder
of US underground bases, told the writer and researcher, Alex
Christopher, that when children reached the point where they could
not work anymore in the slave conditions underground, they were
con-umed by the reptilians. They prefer young chi-dren because they
are not contaminated like adults. Hard to accept isn't it? I'm sure
your mind is screaming, nonsense' at you because who wants to face a
truth like this? But unless we do, how is it ever going
to be stopped?

[Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)]

On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:41:12 -0700, "John F. Winston"
<john...@mlode.com> dropped trou in alt.fan.art-bell and left the
following steaming pile:

So, help me out, here, OK, John? You're saying that, by leaving out a
few random characters in some words, that those people won't be able
to figure out what they are? Especially when you don't leave out the
same letter, every time?

All this time, I thought you were making some half-hearted (or less)
attempt to foil search engines. Not that it would be very effective,
mind you, but at least that would make a tiny bit of sense.
--
V.G.

(This sig file contains not less than 80% recycled SPAM)

"If you do just one thing, you've done something." - Land Rover advertising slogan

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Now You'll Hear The Rest Of The Story. April 6, 2001.

[John F. Winston]

Subject: The Devil Made Me Do It. Part 2. April 5, 2001.

This part talks about some things that were found by Sir Leonard
Wooley at the Sumer City of Ur. It also mentions Osirus, who I think
is one of the good guys.

.....................................................................
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Satanic rituals generally take place at night because that is when the
magnetic field is most stable. During the day the electrically charged
particles of the solar wind cause turbulence in the field and make
interdimensional connection more difficult. It is most stable during
total eclipses and this is when native peoples held their most
important ceremonies to contact and manifest other-dimensional
entities. The tribal shamans know this. Satanic rituals and human
sacrifice, especially of ch-ldren, are performed on a vast scale and
involve some of the most famous pol-ticians, bus-ness people, media
ow-ers and enter-ainers on the planet. Of course they do. It would be
amazing if they did not, given the background. These rituals and human
sacrifice have always been the foundation of the Brotherhood 're-igion'
since ancient times. And the Brotherhood manipulates its Satanic
initiates and 'gofers' into the positions of political, economic,
business, mi-itary, med-cal and me-ia power, and into influential
positions in the world of entertainment. Therefore the ratio of
Satanists and ch-ld sacrificers at the top of these professions and
institutions is staggeringly high compared with the general population.
Apparently, according to former Satanists I have met and read about,
some world politicians are addicted to b-ood taken from a victim at the
moment of sacrifice because of the adrenaline which is produced at that
time. I am told this addiction is quite common among Satanists, and
researchers into the reptilian question suggest that this is the
substance the reptiles also want. It all fits.
The theme of human and animal sacrifice can be easily charted from the
ancient world to the present day. Ironically, but understandably in the
context of this book, much of it was designed to preserve life rather
than destroy it. The belief was that one sacrifice to appease 'the
-ods' would protect the lives of many more. This is another origin of
the concept of the scapegoat, the one ki-led for the 'sins' of others.
This has, of course, manifested as many mythical rel-gious 'heroes' who
"died so our sins could be forgiven". The sacrifice of the king or
ruler to appease the g-ds is another ancient tradition. In the
so-called cradle of civilization, North Africa and the Near East, where
the Anunnaki and the Watchers were documented, there were human
sacrifices, particularly of ch-ldren. Similar rituals were prevalent in
China, Rome, Africa, Asia, Greece, South America and, most famously, in
Mexico where the Aztecs sacrificed en masse to the 'go-ds'. This region
is where the former President of Mexico, Miguel De La Ma-rid, told the
mind controlled slave of the C-A, Cathy O'Brien, that the reptile
extraterrestrial came down and created physical bodies to occupy, just
as they did most profusely among the Ar-an people. The reptilians and
human sacrifice go together. The Scandinavians buried children alive in
an effort to stop plagues and to appease the great -od of the North,
the Scandinavian Odin or the German Wodan or Woden. The g-ds of the
mystery schools were invariably connected to human sacrifice and it was
these very schools which have, via the now global Brotherhood and
Satanism networks, carried the knowledge and the rituals into the
present day. The Incas of Peru sacrificed chil-ren and human sacrifice
was practiced from the earliest days in Europe. One Druid (JW I will
have to admire I don't know much about the group called the Druids, but
I have always thought of them as being pretty good people and they
were supposed to have worked to make Stone Hendge.) ritual was to
bury a c-ild under the foundations of a new building or to sprinkle
the ch-ld's bl-od on the site. The same ritual can be found in many
parts of the world. In the stories of St Columba (dove, Semiramis),
this 'Chr-stian' hero is said to have told his monks that it was
fitting for one of them to be buried in the foundations of a new
monastery on the Scottish island of Iona (the Sun) to 'hallow' the
ground. A Saint Oran volunteered and as a result, it was believed, he
went straight to heaven! Roman accounts by the historian, Tacitus,
reveal how the Druids deemed it a duty to cover their altars with the
blo-d of their captives and how they consulted the -ods via human
en-rails. The same stories can be found in lreland and Scotland. Irish
myth says that lreland was first peopled by a greedy group of go-s
called the Formorians who demanded two thirds of the children born each
year. The Phoenicians and their kinsmen, the Carthaginians, sacrificed
humans on a large scale and so did the Canaanites. When Carthage was
struggling in the war against Rome, 200 noble families sacrificed their
sons to Baal (the Phoenician Sun god, Bel or Bil).'
Another theme is the sacrifice of the first born child, most often the
first born son. In some aboriginal tribes in Australia, the mother
would ki-l and e-t the first born ch-ld to ensure she would be able to
have more? The sacrifice of the first born of animals and humans was
quite common and is mentioned in the Old Testament. The Book of Kings
tells how Mesha, the King of Moab, was so distraught by his defeat at
the hands of the Israelites that he sacrificed his eldest son and heir.
Remember in Ge-esis how 'Go-' (the g-ds) insisted that Abraham
sacrificed his first born son to them to test his faith and obedience.
The same ritual continues today among the Satanists, the bloodline
families of the Brotherhood, and their organised crime offshoots like
the Ma-ia. Sacrificing the first born son is used by these strange
people as a way of testing a person's commitment to the
cause. Yahweh-Jehovah makes it plain in the Book of Num-ers that "...all
the first born of Israel are mine, both man and beast," and in Exodus,
Yahweh demands that "The first of all thy sons shalt thou give unto
me." The B-ble says that Abraham came from the Sumer city of Ur and
excavations in 1927 by Sir Leonard Woolley in the Royal Cemetery there
revealed widespread evidence of human sacrifice in graves dating from
about 2,800 BC.(JW I've followed the work of Sir Leaonard Wooley in
that it is said that he and his fellow worker found some inscriptions
of a wall. The inscriptions were given the Einstein and he came up
with the formula E=MC2. Later the information was given to Von Braun and
he came up with the excape velisity of an object from this Earth. Their
were other inscription and I've not been able to find the book for
myself.
The Scythians, the people who transported many of the A-yan
bloodlines and rituals into Europe, did the same. Evidence of
human sacrifice, especially c-ildren, can be found among all the main
locations and peoples who are mentioned in this book, including the
palace of Knossos on Crete.' The cult of the skull as a focus of ritual
has recurred again and again in this story with the Templars, the
Rennes-le-Chateau mystery, and the Skull and Bones Society in the
Un-ted States. By examining the bodies of Peking Man, dating from
perhaps a million years ago, and Neanderthal man, dating from about
200,000 years ago, evidence of such rituals can be found even at these
early times. The cult of the head, which included ea-ing the br-in of
the victim, became more elaborate in Jericho some eight thousand years
ago and evidence of the same rituals have been found in the Shinto
rel-gion in Japan and in ancient China. Anath, the legendary sister of
Baal, was portrayed festooned with severed he-ds along with human h-nds
hanging from her girdle, the same as the mother g-ddesses of Mexico and
India.'
Written texts of ancient Egypt reveal many kinds of sacrifice and
torture, which later became widespread. The Egyptians would sacrifice
red-headed men on the tomb of Osiris because red was the colour
associated with Set, the Egyptian version of Satan. Some rituals
recalled by people today who have suffered indescribably in these
horrors, mirror those detailed in the Egyptian Book Of The Dead and
include keeping he-rts in a j-r.' The hea-ts were placed on the scales
in Egypt to be weighed for judgement by the go-dess, Maat. This is the
real meaning of the woman with the sun crown holding the Scales of
Justice which you see on so many court buildings. In the ancient world,
the Brahmin fakirs in India and other mystery schools knew of drugs,
torture rituals and 'magic' which created hallucinations. Silly fakirs.
Hypnosis was widely used in the temples. The demon worshippers of
'Bel/Baal/Nimrod in Canaan, Babylon and Phoenicia engaged in human
sacrifice, cann-balism, and c-ild murder in the name of Moloch or
Molech, an aspect of Nimrod/ Baal, as part of their reli-ious rituals.'
Baal (lord or ruler), the supreme g-d of the Canaanites and
Phoenicians, was said to be the giver of life and Moloch was the
destroyer of life. Both demanded appeasement by sacrifice. Baal or
Moloch became identified with the Roman -od Saturn.

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Stigmata. April 7, 2001.

This week my friend brought back a couple of videos from the
store for us to watch. I was told that the first one had to do
with a lady getting some sores on her hands. The second was
about a half-breed lady inheriting some land down in the South.

The first movie was called Stigmata and it was about a lady
recieving the crucifiction wounds of Christ. I believe that it
really happens. It even happened about 10 years ago to a young
bl-ck woman in the San Francisco Bay Area. The strange thing
about it was that she was I think, a member of the Ba-tist Chu-ch
and they don't usually concern themselves with such things. They
treated the young lady well and it was written up in the San
Francisco Bay Area Papers.

At the end of the movie it stated that there had been a discovery
of a different Gospel such as Matthew, Mark, Luke and John but this
one was written by Thomas. I've heard lately on the internet by
the person who should know, that this gospel explains the words and
thoughts of Je--s better than the other gospels.

I then used my new computer to run a search engine on it to
look up The Gospel Of Thomas. It showed me more than 10 web sites
that deal with the subject. I down loaded it and sent it to my
old computer. I will pass on to you what I found.

............
............

From: J F W
Subject: The Gospel of Thomas Translated By Nancy Johnson
----------------------------------------

These are the secret words spoken by the Living Je--s,
and recorded by Didymus Judas Thomas.
1.)
Jes-- said:
He who uncovers
The significance of these words
Shall not taste death.
2.)
Let him who seeks,
Not cease from his search
until he finds.
When he finds he will be bewildered,
And when bewildered,
He will wonder, and reign over the All.
3.)
If your guides claim
that the kingdom is in the sky,
The birds of the sky will be there before you.
If they see it is in the sea,
The fishes of the sea will be there before you.
The kingdom is within you and without you.
When you know yourselves, you will be known.
Then you shall know that you are
Sons of the Living Father.
But if you do not know yourselves
You are in poverty, and you are poverty.
4.)
An old man heavy in years,
Will not hesitate
To ask a baby seven days old,
About the Place of Life.
And he shall live, for many
Who are first shall be last,
United within the Single One.
5.)
J--us said:
Know what is before you.
That which is hidden will be revealed.
6.)
His disciples asked him:
Do you want us to fast?
How should we pray
and distribute alms?
What rules should we observe in eating?
--sus replied:
Do not lie.
Do not do what you dislike,
For all is revealed before heaven.
Everything hidden will be revealed.
Nothing covered will remain undiscovered.
7.)
Blessed is the lion
Eaten by a man, so that
it becomes a man.
Profane is the man
eaten by a lion
so that he becomes a lion.
8.)
Man is like a skilful fisherman,
casting his net into the sea
and drawing it out replete with small fish.
If the wise fisherman finds amongst them a large fish
He throws the smaller back into the sea,
Having selected the largest with ease.
He who has ears to hear, let him hear.
9.)
Je--s said:
A sower came forth,
Filled his hands, and cast.
A few seeds fell upon the road, where
Birds came down and devoured them.
Others fell among thorns,
Where they choked, or were eaten by worms.
Still others fell upon good ground,
Where they could bring forth good fruit.
10.)
Jes-- said:
I have cast
A fire upon the world,
and I rekindle it
until it burns.
11.)
This Heaven shall pass away
and that above shall pass away.
The dead no longer live.
The living no longer die.
When you ate good things
It was you who gave them life.
But what are you going to do in the Light?
When you were one
You were made two, but when you are two,
what are you going to do?
12.)
The disciples said to --sus:
We know that you are to leave us.
Which of us is to be leader?
Whenever you have gone
J--us replied:
You will go to James the Just
For whom
Heaven and Earth came into being.
13.)/
Jes-- addressed his disciples:
Compare me to someone.
Tell me whom I resemble.
Simon Peter said:
Like a just Angel.
Matthew answered:
Like a wise philosopher.
But Thomas replied:
Truly Master, my mouth
Cannot bring itself to utter comparisons.
AND --sus said:
I am no longer your master.
You have drunk from the bubbling fountain
which I brought,
and you are drunk.
He took Thomas aside,
and said three words to him.
When Thomas returned,
his companions asked:
What did J--us tell you?
And he replied:
If i related even one of the words
he told me, you would gather stones,
and hurl them at me, whereupon fire would leap from
the stones, and burn you.
14.)
Je--s said:
If you fast,
you will create sins for yourselves.
If you pray you will be condemned.
If you give alms, you will injure yourselves.
If you go into a land and wander throughout its area,
and are offered hospitality,
Eat what is set before you.
Heal the sick among them.
It is not what goes into your mouth that defiles you
But what comes out of your mouth that defiles you.
15.)
When you perceive
One not born of woman,
Prostate yourselves
and worship him. He is your father.
16.)
Men think that
I came to bring peace to the world
They do not know that
I bring division,
fire and sword and war.
There shall be five in a house
With three against two
and two against three;
The father against the son,
and the son against the father,
and they shall stand alone.
17.)
Je--s said:
I shall give you
what no eye has seen,
No ear heard, no hand touched
nor any heart received.
18.)
The Disciples said to him:
Warn us how our end will be.
J--us replied:
Have you already discovered
the beginning, now that
you are asking about the end?
Wherever the beginning is, there
shall be the end.
Blessed is he who stands
at the beginning, for he understands
the end without tasting death.
19.)
Blessed is he who was before he became.
If you become my disciples and respond to my
words, stones will rise to your service.
You have five trees in Paradise,
immobile during summer and winter,
Never shedding their leaves.
He who knows them all shall never taste death.
20.)
The disciples challenged him:
Tell us what the kingdom of heaven is like.
He answered:
The kingdom is like a grain of mustard.
Although smaller than all the other seeds,
when it falls upon tilled earth,
it sends forth a great branch,
Which became a splendid harbour for birds.
21.)
Mary Magdalene asked Je--s:
What are your disciples like?
He said:
They are like children
settled in a field not theirs.
When the owners of the field
approach them, and order,
Give us back our field!
They will be naked before them, and
will hand it over.
So I say to you:
If a householder is aware
that a thief is coming,
he will await his arrival,
block his way into the house,
The kingdom, and so protect his property.
Be wary of the world.
Gird your loins in strength
So that no robbers enter,
For the benefits you expect
will be found: may there rise among you a man of
understanding.
When the fruit is ripening,
he comes with his swift sickle, and reaps.
He who has ears to hear, let him hear.
22.)
Jes-- saw little ones being fed.
He addressed his disciples:
These babies being nursed
are like those entering the kingdom.
They asked: Shall we enter the kingdom?
We are small.
Jesus said:
When you make two into one
and what is within like what is without,
and what is without like what was within.
And what is above like what is below,
and when you unite male and female in one
So that the male is no longer male,
and the female is no longer female,
When you make eyes in place of an eye
and a hand in place of a hand,
and a foot in place of a foot
and an image in place of an image,
Then you shall enter the Kingdom.
23.)
I shall choose
One from a thousand,
and two from ten thousand,
and they shall stand in unity.
24.)
His disciples requested:
Teach us about the PLACE
Where you live,
For we must seek it.
He said:
He who has ears let him hear.
There is light in a man of light,
Who gives light to the world.
If he does not give light,
there is only Darkness.
25.)
Love your brother
Like your own soul. Cherish him.
Like the apple of your eye.
26.)
You see the mote
within your brothers eye
but you do not see the beam
within your own.
Once you have extracted the beam
from your own eye,
you can remove the mote from your brothers.
27.)
Unless
You abstain from the world,
you will not find the kingdom.
Unless you honor the sabbath,
you will not see the Father.
28.)
I stood
In the midst of the world,
and i found everyone drunk,
and none thirsty.
Then my soul was sorry
for all the sons of men,
because they are blind in their hearts.
They cannot realize that they have come
empty into the world,
and must leave it empty.
Now they are drunk,
But when they renounce the wine,
they will repent.
29.)
If the flesh
came into being for the sake
of the sp-rit, that is
a mystery. But if
the spir-t came into being
for the sake of the body,
That is a wondrous miracle.
How did such great wealth
make its home, I wonder,
in such poverty?
30.)
Where there are three G-ds,
They are Go-s.
Where there are two, or one,
I am with Him.
31.)
No prophet is honoured
in his homeland.
No physician heals those
who know him well.
32.)
No city
Built upon a mountain,
and well fortified,
can fall, or conceal itself.
33.)
J--us said:
Whatever you hear,
With one ear and the other,
teach from the housetops.
Nobody lights a lamp in order
to place it under a bushel
or to hide it is some secret place.
Set it upon a lampstand,
so that all who enter or depart
may see its light.

[Captain Red Beard]

"John F. Winston" <john...@mlode.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.BSF.3.96.101040...@shell.mlode.com...

> Subject: Stigmata. April 7, 2001.

Is this jackass Alfred Lehmberg?

[Captain Red Beard]

"John F. Winston" <john...@mlode.com> wrote in message
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> Subject: Stigmata. April 7, 2001.

Is this jackass Alfred Lehmberg?

[Robert W Lawrence]

"John F. Winston" <john...@mlode.com> wrote:

<> At the end of the movie it stated that there had been a discovery
<>of a different Gospel such as Matthew, Mark, Luke and John but this
<>one was written by Thomas. I've heard lately on the internet by
<>the person who should know, that this gospel explains the words and
<>thoughts of Je--s better than the other gospels.

There are literally hundreds of such "Gospels". What was a real hoot in then
movie was the implication that the Catholic Church was trying to suppress this
Gospel. Its been in print for hundreds of years.

Robert W Lawrence
lawr...@rwlcpa.com

1Peter 5:7

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Stigmata.. Part 2. April 9, 2001.

This part gives the answer to the question of, Is Circumcision
Of Use? As far as The Sigmata Effect goes, this is about the time
that some of it happens. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy but
I think it a great thing that happens, sometimes.
We now continue from The Gospel Of Thomas.

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34.) When the blind lead the blind, they fall together
into the ditch.
35.) Nobody can enter the house of a strong man,
or seize it by force,
unless his hands are tied.
Only then can the house be
ransacked. Morn to Eve and Eve to Morn
do not think what you put on.
37.) His disciples asked: When will you appear to us
and when shall we see you? J--us answered:
When you shed your shame, and take your clothes,
Place them on the ground, and trample them underfoot
like children, Then you shall see The Son of the
Living One, and will not be afraid.
38.) You have often wished
to hear the words
I now express.
When you have no other to listen to,
days will come when you shall search,
but never find me.
39.) The scribes and Pharisees
received the keys of understanding, and hid them.
They did not enter, nor allowed entrance to those
who so wished. Be wise as serpents, and innocent as doves.
40.) A vine was planted outside the father, yet as it was
never tethered it was torn from the roots, and died.
He who has something in his hands,
will receive, and from him who has nothing,
shall be taken away all that he possesses.
42.) J--us said:
Be passers-by. His disciples said:
Who are you to say that to us?
You do not understand Who I am, from what I say.
You have become like the J-ws. They love the tree and
hate the fruit. Or they love the fruit and hate the tree.
He who blasphemes against the father shall be forgiven,
and he who blasphemes against the son shall be forgiven,
but he who blasphemes against the holy ghost shall not be
forgiven on earth or in heaven.
45.) No grapes are gathered from thorn, nor are figs plucked
from camelthorn. A good man produces good from his treasure.
An evil man brings forth evil from his heart, speaking evil
when he expresses himself.
46.) --sus said:
From the first man to John the Baptist,
no one born of woman is higher than John the Baptist,
whose eyes remain unbroken. Whoever becomes small
shall understand the kingdom, and be exalted above John.
47.) A man can not mount two horses,
or bend two bows,
A servant cannot obey two masters, for he must honor the one,
and despise the other. Nobody at once drinks old wine and
desires new. Nor is new wine packed within old skins,lest
they crack. Old wine is not contained within new skins, lest
they perish. An old patch is not grafted upon new clothes,
for it will tear.
48.) If two Make peace with one another in the same house,
they can order the mountain to move,and it will move.
49.) Je--s said:
Blessed are the solitary, and the elect
for they shall discover the kingdom from which
they come, and to which they must return.
50.) If you are asked your origins, answer:
We have come out of the light where the light
came of itself. It rested appearing in their image.
If you are asked your identity, answer: We are his sons,
and The Elect of the Living Father. If asked for a sign
of your father, answer: Movement and repose.
51.) His disciples asked Je--s:
When will begin the repose of the dead?
And when will the new world appear?
He answered: The sanctuary you expect is here,
Although you cannot recognize it.
52.) His disciples commented: 24 prophets spoke in Israel.
All referred to you. Jes-- replied: You have neglected the one
who lives in your presence, in order to talk about the dead.
53.) His disciples asked:
Is circumcision of use?
He said: if it were useful, your father would of begotten
you circumcised out of your mother. But the real circumcision
of the Sp-rit has always been useful and nothing but useful.
54.) Blessed are the poor, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
55.) J--us said:
He who does not hate Father and Mother cannot be my disciple,
as he who does not hate brother and sister, and take up his
cross as I did, cannot ever become worthy of me.
56.) He who has known the world has found a corpse,
and the world is unworthy of him who has found a corpse.
57.) The Kingdom of the Father is like a farmer who possessed
good seed.
One night, his enemy sowed Tares among the seed, but the farmer
refused to pull up the tares, saying: You may uproot wheat as well.
On the harvest day, the tares will appear, be uprooted and burned.
58.) Blessed is the man who has suffered, for he has truly discovered
life.
59.) Look to the Living One as long as you live, lest you die, Then
search for him, and fail.
60.) A Samaritan was bearing a lamb towards Judea.
Je--s asked his disciples why he wanted the animal.
They replied that he wished to kill it and to eat it.
He replied: As long as it is alive, he will not eat it.
He can only once it is dead. There is no other way, they said.
He answered: You too are seeking rest in order to avoid becoming
corpses, and ripe for being eaten.
61.) Two share one bed. One shall live, and the other die.
Salome challenged him, Who are you? Did you mount my bed, and eat
from my table? Je--s addressed her: I am an equal. I have been
giving things belonging to my father.
Salome replied, I am your disciple.
And Jesus responded: When a man is growing equal,
he shall be suffused with light,
but when he is growing apart,
he shall be consumed with darkness.
62.) --sus said: I reveal my secrets to those
deserving of them. Do not let your left hand know what
your right is doing.
63.) A rich man owned a great fortune, and determined to employ
people to sow, reap, plant, and fill his barns with
fruit, that he may lack nothing. That very night, he died. He
who has ears to hear let him hear.
64.) Having prepared a banquet, a host sent his servant to
summon the guest. He went to the first and said: My master has
invited you. Some merchants who are in my debt are visiting me
tonight. I have to advise them. I am sorry I can not come.
He visited another and said: My master has sent an invitation
to you. That one replied: I have bought a house, and made an
appointment for today. I have no time. He went to another and
offered: My master has invited you. He was told: My friend is
getting married, and I am organizing a dinner to celebrate. I
can not come I must be excused. Then he approached another and
said: My master has invited you.
He was answered: I have just bought an estate, and am about to
collect the rents. I shall not be able to come. The servant
returned to his master, and reported: All those you invited
are unable to come. The master responded: Go out into the
streets; bring in all you find to partake of the banquet.
Merchants and dealers shall not enter the abode of my father.
65.) A virtuous man owned a vineyard which he gave to farmers to be
tilled, having agreed to receive the fruit from them. He sent
his servant to collect the fruits, and he was seized, beaten
and almost killed. The servant returned, and told his master
of this. Perhaps they did not recognize him, thought the master.
So he sent another servant. The farmers beat him too. Then the
man sent his son thinking they will respect my son. The farmers
knew that he was the heir, and they seized and killed him. He
who has ears to hear let him hear.
66.) Show me the stone, which the builders rejected.
It is the head of the corner.
67.) He who knows the All
and does not know himself
has missed everything.
68.) You are blessed, when men beat you,
and persecute you for they shall find no place still
standing where they have tormented you.
69.) Blessed are they who have been persecuted in
their hearts. They have known the father in truth.
Blessed are the hungry, for he who desires
will be satisfied.
70.) When you produce this within, what you have will save you.
What you do not have within will kill you.
71.) --sus said:
I shall destroy this house, and nobody will be
able to restore it.

Part 2.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Part 3 of 3.

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72.)
A man requested: Tell my brothers to divide my fathers things
with me. He replied: Who made me a divider? Turning to his
disciples, he said: Do I divide things up?
73.) The harvest is great, but the labourers are few.
Ask the Lord to send Labourers to the harvest.
74.) Look there are many people around the well, but there is
nobody within the well.
75.) There are many at the door.
But only the solitary ones shall
enter the Bridal Chamber.
76.) The Kingdom of the Father is like a merchant, who
found a pearl to add on to his possessions. Being a clever
merchant, he sold his other possessions, and bought himself
the pearl alone.
Seek like him the treasure which does not fade, in
the place where no moths enter to consume, and no
worms to corrupt.
77.) --sus said:
I am the Light
That is above them all.
I am the All. The all came from me,
and the all has returned to me.
Split wood and I am there.
Raise a stone and you will find me.
78.) Why have you come into the field?
To see a reed tremble in the wind?
To observe a man wearing soft cloth?
Your kings and great men
all wear soft clothes and yet they cannot
see the truth.
79.) A woman from the crowd addressed him:
Blessed is the womb that gave you birth and
the women who nursed you. He answered:
Blessed are those who heard the WORD of the
Father and maintained it in truth, for the day
will come when you will say blessed is the womb
which has not conceived, and the woman who has not nursed.
80.) He who has known the world has found the
body, but he who has found the body,
is too great for the world.
81.) He who is rich can become a king.
He who has power can do without.
82.) He who is close to me is close to fire:
He who is far from me is distant from the kingdom.
83.) Images Appeared to man, and the Light within is hidden
in the image of the Fathers Light.
He will reveal Himself, and his image hidden by light.
84.) When you see your likeness, you are happy,
but when you see your images rising before you without
subsiding or approaching, how long can you stand that?
85.) The first man emerged from a great power and great
wealth, and was still unworthy of you. Had he been worthy,
he would not of experienced death.
86.) Foxes have their lairs, and birds their nests.
But the son of man has no place to lay down his head,
and rest.
Wretched is the body dependent upon the body,
and wretched is the soul dependent upon them both.
87.) --sus said:
The angels and the prophets shall visit you, and
give you what is yours. For your part, give them what you
have in your hand and ask yourselves when they will come
to take what is theirs. Why do you wash the surface of
the chalice?
Do you not understand that the man who made the
the surface of the chalice? Do you not understand that the
man who made the outside also created the inside?
My yoke is light, my rule is mild and you shall find repose.
91.) They said to him: Tell us who you are
so that we may believe in you. He replied:
You are testing the face of Heaven and Earth and
have not recognized the man before you. You do not
even know how to test this moment.
92.) --sus said: Seek and you shall find. What you have
asked me recently. I did not tell you then. I want to
tell you now, when you are not asking me.
93.) Do not give the sacred to dogs,
lest it be cast on the dung-heap.
Do not cast pearls before swine,
lest they destroy them.
He who seeks shall find and the doors will
be opened to him, who knocks. If you have money,
do not lend it out at interest but give it to him
who can not repay it.
96.) The Kingdom of Heaven
is like a woman who takes a little
leaven, puts it in dough, and makes large loaves.

He who has ears to hear, let him hear.

97.) The Kingdom of Heaven is like a women
carrying a jug full of meal on a long journey.
When the handle broke, the meal streamed out behind her,
so that she never noticed anything was wrong until
arriving home, she sat down the jug and discovered
it was empty.
The Kingdom of heaven is like a man who wished
to assassinate a noble. He drew his sword at home, and
struck it against the wall, to test whether his
hand were strong enough. Then he went out and killed
the noble. The Disciples said to him:
Your brothers and your mother are outside.
He answered: Those who perform the will of my Father
are my brothers and mother.
They are the ones who will enter My Fathers Kingdom.
100.) They showed Je--s a gold coin and said:
Caesars men wanted tribute from us. He replied:
Render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and render
unto G-d, what belongs to Go-, and give me what is mine.
101.) He who does not hate
his father and his mother as I do
cannot be my disciple, and who does not
love his mother and father as I
do, cannot be my disciple cannot be my disciple.
For my mother killed me, but my true mother has
given me life.
102.) Woe to the Pharisees.
They resemble a dog in a manger,
who neither eats, nor allows the oxen to eat.
103.) Blessed is he who knows
the time of the robbers arrival, for
he can rise, collect himself, and gird
his loins in preparation.
104.) They said:
Come. Let us pray today and fast.
Jesus said:
What sin have I committed?
What have I failed to do?
When the bridegroom departs from
the bridal chamber, then you can
fast and pray.
105.) He who knows
his father and his mother shall
be called a bastard.
106.) When you make the two one, you will
become Sons of Man, and if you order the
mountain to move, it will move.
107.) The kingdom is like a shepherd, who owned a
hundred sheep, the largest of which went astray. He
left the 99, in search of the one until he found it.
After all his trouble, he said to the sheep:
I love you more than the 99.
108.) Whoever drinks from my mouth shall become like him.
For him, the hidden will be revealed.
109.) The kingdom is like a man who is ignorant of the
treasure hidden in a field. When he dies he
leaves it to his son who sells it. Being aware also
of the treasure within. The buyer will come, discover the
treasure while plowing, and lend out money at interest.
110.) He who has found the world and riches, should then
deny the world.
111.) The heavens will be rolled back, and the earth unfurled
before your eyes. The Living One out of The Living One sees
neither death nor fear, for Je--s the world is unworthy
of the man who finds themselves.
112.) --s said:
Woe to the flesh that is dependent upon the Soul, and
woe to the soul that is dependent upon the flesh.
113.) His disciples questioned:
When will the kingdom come?
Jes-- answered:
It will never come if you are
expecting it. Nobody will say look here
or look there. Yet the Kingdom of the Father
is spread throughout the earth and no man sees it.
114.) Simon Peter suggested to them:
Mary Magdalene should leave us .
Women are unworthy of the life.
J--us said:
I shall lead her so as to make her a
man, that she may become a Living Spirit, as
you other men for every woman made manly, shall enter
the Kingdom of Heaven.^

JW That's all of the information I have on this subject.

Part 3 of 3.

John Winston john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: The Devil Made Me Do It. Part 3. April 11, 2001.

This part contains a lot of bad things. It even tells who the
Thugs are. I wouldn't advise you to read this unless you would
really like to make this world a better place. Let me also state
that I have nothing against a person being a good Ma-on, Druid or
follower of Kali, it's just that some of these groups get infiltrated
by bad people on the top level and they really do a lot of harm. My
father was a Mas-n and I was nearly put into their young men's
club as a child. If it weren't for the protest of my Mother I would
probably be a Maso- today and telling everybody else that there is
nothing wrong with the organization. Now on to the material at hand.

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The infants
were said to have been "passed over" or "passed through" the fire in
sacrifice to Moloch-Baal. In the Book of Leviticus we find the line:
"Thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Moloch".
The prophet Jeremiah talks of the people: "burning their sons in the
fire as burnt offerings unto Baal" and also in the Book of Jeremiah we
are told that: "They have built the high places of Tophet, which is in
the Valley of Hinnon, to burn their sons and daughters in the fire..."
John Milton also wrote of Moloch in his Paradise Lost: "Flrst Moloch,
horrid king, besmirched with bl-od, of human sacrifice, and parent's
tears, 'Though, for the noise of drums and timbrels loud, Their
chil-ren's cries unheard, that passed through fire, To his grim idol."
The Old Testament abounds with stories of animal and hu-an sacrifice.
The same symbolism can be seen in a stream of ancient texts about the
sacrifice of the first b-rn or y-ung children. The Je--s story includes
this theme also, of course. At it's most extreme, the J-wish dogma is
deeply sacrificial. Their temples were slalughterhouses with a constant
supply of animals taken there for ritual mu-der and sacrifice. Look at
the Je-ish form of ki-ling animals to this today Meat is only
considered 'kosher' if the animal has its throat c-t and d-es by being
b-ed dry. The same with the 'halal' meat of the Muslims. Through the
Brotherhood bloodlines the ancient rituals have been strictly
maintained and the ruling El-te today are sacrificing ch-ldren and
drinking bl-od the same as they did in the ancient world. The Hindu
faith and the information for its sacred books, the Vedas, were taken
to the Indian subcontinent by the Ar-ans from the Caucasus Mountains,
one of the centers for extraterrestrials /inner terrestrials and their
offspring. It is therefore predictable that the Vedas contain the same
instructions for sacrifice to the g-ds. The Vedas, written about 1,400
BC, list the names of the go-s and the victim most suitable for each
one. In the modem world, annual victims have been offered to the
Mother Go-dess Kali, the wife of the -od, Shiva, and she was always
believed to live off hu-an fl-sh. A male ch-ld was offered every
Friday evening at the temple of Shiva at Tanjor until the practice
was stopped (officially) in the mid-nineteeth century. The Thugs,
one of the ancient secret societies in the Brotherhood network,
mu-dered their victims according to elaborate rituals dedicated to
Kali, who is depicted wearing a garland of sk-lls. Children or
so-called 'young vi-gins' are used in these sacrificial rituals
because the Satanists and their reptilian masters want to access
the pure pre-pubescent energy for their own purposes. I have been
told by Satanists, many of their victims, and by therapists
working with victims, the same stories of 'regeneration rituals'.
The aging Satanist, sometimes a high ranking member of the
Brotherhood, stands in the center of a circle of bab-es or young
ch-ldren. As they are sacrificed the ritual allows the Satanist
to absorb their life-essense, their life-force, and regenerate
his or her body. The world's most famous Satanist, Aleister Crowley,
who had connection to both Winston Churchill and the Na-is, advocated
hu-an sacrifice and admitted to sacrificing ch-ldren. In his 1929 book,
Magick In Theory And Practice, he explains the reasons for ritual death
and why small b-ys are the best victims:
"It was the theory of the ancient magicians that any living being is
a storehouse of energy varying in quantity according to the size and
health of the animal, and in quality according to its mental and moral
character. At the death of this animal this energy is liberated
suddenly. For the highest spi-itual working one must accordingly choose
that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male ch-ld
of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory
and suitable victim.""
Crowley adds in a footnote that according to the records of the
Satanist, Frater Perurabo, he performed just such a sacrifice 150 times
every year between 1912 and 1928. Think about that. It means that this
one man ritually sacrificed almost 2,500 young boys in that period
alone. Do you still wonder what happens to many of the millions, yes
millions, of children who go missing every year all over the world
And that's without all of those bred for sacrifice that the public
knows nothing about. We can begin to see that the estimates of ritual
sacrifices every year are no exaggeration. Satanism at its core is
about the manipulation and theft of another person's energy and
consciousness. In olden times they called it "soul snatching", It may
appear to be merely a sickening perversion, but those who truly
understand the background to the rituals know that what really matters
is the effect of the rituals, not so much the rituals themselves. They
are the means to an end - stealing or manipulating energy. S-x is so
common in Satanic ritual because at the moment of org-sm, the body
explodes with energy which the Satanists and the reptiles can capture
and absorb. Se-ual activity inspired by lo-e resonates to a much higher
vibration and therefore cannot be accessed by the reptilians. -ex
during a Satanic ritual or sacrifice, however, explodes the org-smic
energy at a very low frequency because of the intent involved and so
the energy of Satanic se- resonates to the reptilian frequency. The
astrological energies constantly generated by the movement of the
planets and the cycles of the Sun and Moon are also employed to add to
the power of the rituals. So there are particular Satanic days for
their most important ceremonies. On these days unimaginable numbers of
people, mostly chi-dren, are sacrificed. Some of the main dates are:
Feb 1/2, Candlemas; March 21/22, spring equinox; April 30th/May 1st,
Walpurgis Night/Beltane; June 21/22, summer solstice; July 31 /August
1, Lammas - Great Sabbat festival; September 21/22, autumn equinox;
October 31st/November 1st, Samhain/Halloween; December 21/22, winter
solstice or Yule.
Let me emphasise again here that these dates and festivals are not
Satanic in themselves. They are times in the annual planetary cycle
when very powerful energies of various kinds are manifesting on the
Earth and the rituals and ceremonies of both a positive and negative
nature are performed on these dates. The cycle produces the energy and
the Satanists simply harness that energy for their own purposes, just
as the positive rituals do, like those performed by most modern Druids.
Other dates for widespread Satanic ritual include every full Moon
because the reflected energy of the Sun is at its most powerful on
those occasions. Note also the significance to Satanists of May I 1st,
the day the Bavarian Illu-inati was formed in 1776 and the day of
celebration in the Brotherhood created Communist and Socialist
calendar.
The Key of Solomon is a book of o-cult ma-ic which legend claims was
written by 'King Solomon' himself. It includes the pentagram in its
instructions of how to invoke de-ons and make sacrifices to dem-ns.
Such ancient works provide the foundations for the same rituals in
each generation. The inner core of the Knights Templar was involved
in black magic ritual and the Templars were accused of what today we
call Satanism and of rejecting Chri-tianity by denying Ch-ist and
spitting on the cr-ss. They were said to worship a de-on power called
Baphomet, a black magic symbol, also known as the Goat of Mendes.
Capricorn (the goat, also symbolised by the unicorn) is the sign of
the initiate and it represents political power, while Leo (the Sun,
the lion) represents royal power. Hence the lion is the King of the
Jungle and is the main symbol on the flag of the Brit-sh r-yal
family. The planet Saturn rules Capricorn while the Sun rules Leo
and Satanists and black magicians are very much focused on the Sun
and Saturn in their rituals. The Saturn vibration has a much bigger
impact on the Earth than is recognized. In astrology it is the planet
of law and authority. The name, Baphomet, is reckoned to derive
from Greek words meaning ba-tism of wisdom or knowledge (initiation)
and Dr Hugh Schonfield, one of the experts on the Dead Sea Scrolls,
says that using the code of the Essenes, the word Baphomet can be
translated to 'Sophia', the go-dess of the Gnostics, and the Greek
word for wisdom." Sophia is another name for the female energy.
Schonfield is sure there is a link between the Templars and the
Essenes and so am I. He has demonstrated that the Templars used the
same code, the Atbash Cipher employed in some of the Dead Sea
Scrolls.'
Other accusations against the Templars were of ki-ling ch-ldren
and teaching women how to ab-rt." It is true that most of these
confessions were made under extreme torture by the Roman Ca-holic
Satanists, the Inqu-sition. But not all of these reports were
gleaned in this way and the themes are so strong, and the story so
consistent, that it would be ridiculous just to dismiss them all.
And one thing is quite provable. These very ceremonies involving
the ritual m-rder of ch-ldren, and the use of women called br-eders
to produce babies and abo-ted fetuses for sacrifice to a d-mon
'go-', are most certainly performed today and this Satanic
structure of abuse and ritual m-rder is controlled by the very
secret society network the Templars helped to expand. The testimony
of one Templar, Squin de Fle-ian, said they all had to swear never
to leave the Order and to further its interests by any means, right
or wrong. No crime committed for the honor or benefit of the Order
was considered to be s-nful. He also made allegations about
sacrificing ba-ies and abo-ting fetuses.

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Book About Telos. April 12, 2001.

Here is a book about an underground city that is about 12 miles
North of my property on the sides of Mt. Shasta.

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From: V
Subject: TELOS, by Dianne Robbins....BOOK REVIEW]
TELOS, by Dianne Robbins, "The Call Goes Out from THE
HOLLOW EARTHand the UNDERGROUND CITIES!" $--
Mt.Shasta Light Publishing Book Review by Russ Michael
(Permission to copy freely granted to everyone) Dianne
Robbins is an extraordinary author and telepath. TELOS, is
a book that will hold you "spell-bound" from start to
finish!! I recommend that when you buy this book, you also
purchase her second book, "The Call Goes Out by the Earth's
CETATCIONS" This second book truly opened me up to a whole
new dimension in thinking and self-realization. After
reading it, my understanding and self-connection to the
"unity of all life" and the sacredness of all kingdoms of
nature became so clear!! The sorrowful plight of our
glorious, fully conscious whales and dolphins, chased and
butchered when caught, or held prisoners in public zoos becomes
apparent to any reader. And we must do what we each can do
to halt this terrible travesty to our sacred, fully
conscious brothers and sisters of the seas. This mindless
slaughter must be halted immediately!! I am committed to
help in any way that humanly can. I hope that you also
will be! In TELOS, Dianne connects telepathically with two
Master Teachers, from the"Hollow Earth" named ADAMA and
MIKOS. Before reading this book, I also received a message
conveyed to me from MIKOS thanking me for making the
information about the hollow earth and the underground
cities available to the masses worldwide through our newly
formed Global Light Network!! Over 12,000 years ago, just
before a worldwide nuclear war wiped out most all of human
life on the surface world, the Spiritual Hierarchy of Earth,
guided a little over 25,000 light beings into deep
subterranian caverns, saving their lives--for most surface
life forms on earth were destroyed by the terrible all-out
nuclear war on the earth's surface. These 25,000 humans
have turned into over a 25,000,000 population, living in
over 150 underground cities of earth today...They had brought
their crystal and light technology with them, and now for
thousands of years have been flying spaceships to the stars,
from both huge polar exits at our North Pole and South
Pole. Their life spans range from many hundreds to over
40,000 years (in the same immortal human, and so very
youthful human bodies!! From time to time some of them
will surface and live among us. One of them, Sharula Lux, a
lady born in 1725, sill in her "youthful" body, lives today
on our "surface world" with her husband in Sante Fe, New
Mexico, USA. (JW There is a lot of controversy about where
Sharula is actually from. I know her personally and have
video taped her for hours. She puts out good information but
something tells me that her body is not from inside Mt. Shasta.
My friend Bill Hamilton says she was a different person called
Bonnie a few years ago and still uses that person's Social Security
number when she travels. I once talked with Mitsy Gallispy who
formerly ran the Golden Bough Book Store in Mt. Shasta City, Calif.
and she said with a faint smile that she knew her before she
claimed to be Sharula.
Sharula says she is not a Walk-in so I don't know.) ADAMA and MIKOS
take turns describing the heavenly life they live in their safely
hidden underground cities--and how they work closely with the
GALACTIC COMMAND. They will soon surface and aid us clean pollution
from earth... at THE FIRST CONTACT. When waves and waves of
friendly star fleets will land all over our earth--a day
that is nearer than most think!! To give you a "feel" of
this extraordinary book, here is an short excerpt from page
88. "There are many on Earth now who are awakening to the
Spirit within them, due to the increasing amounts of Light
that are coming onto the planet. Life at all levels
is stirring in response to heightened awareness, as a result
of the Light and the Light-worker's expressions of Love that
you are all sending out on the etheric currents surround the
planet. We in the subterranian cities wait and watch for
the cue to emerge, and eagerly anticipate our direct contact
with you on the surface. We have been separated for too long
a time, and it is well past due date to be connected again.
So know that even though you can't see us, we are here and
can "see" you through our computer system. We have the whole
surface monitored on our computer screens, and can focus in
to see you wherever you are. You are also tracked on the
Confederation of Planets computer screens, tracking all
Lightworkers so that you are always in range of their
"sight," should they need to intervene. So rest assured
that you are in safe hands, from both BELOW and ABOVE, as you
travel closer and closer to the Photon Belt of dimensional
change." There is also a "USA Inner-Earth Access Map" on
page 89--that shows hundreds of dots across the whole
country--leading to underground caverns--out of which
they will suddenly emerge--timed with the landing of the
Galactic Command space fleet. I love this book--and can
hardly wait to make the time to re-read it--since I am
so very busy in helping our Global Light Network expand
rapidly around the globe!! TELOS is available, via credit
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[John F. Winston]

Subject: Master Li, UFOs and C-ina. April 12, 2001.

It's been quite a while since I've reported on the actions of a
person called Master Li. Here's the latest on him and his work.

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From: D
Subject: Fear and Loathing in Tiananmen Square
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http://www.gluckman.com/FalunGong.html
The persecution of this group is continuing today....see
http://www.falundafa.org/
d
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Why is Beijing so Afraid???

A year after mounting the biggest protests in Beijing since Tiananmen
Square in 1989, the Falun Gong refuses to fold. More protests filled
the square on April 25, 2000. Why Beijing worries that a bunch of
elderly people, waving their arms and doing breathing exercises in
the park, might really bring down the world's biggest country.
By Ro- Gluck-an/Beijing
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ELDERLY MEN WERE PUNCHED. Women with children were fiercely
knocked to the ground, and more than a dozen people were arrested
after attempting to sit in a circle and meditate under the watchful
gaze of a huge portrait of Chairman Mao. An all-day series of
cat-and-mouse skirmishes spilled across Tiananmen Square in Beijing
on April 25, 2000 - the one-year anniversary of huge protests by the
since-outlawed group Falun Gong.
Despite ominous allusions in the press to an ultimate showdown
with "a doomsday cult" that "is still capable of raising the de-il
in Ch-na," the day ended with scores in custody, many of them injured,
but no resolution to the gover-ment's struggle with the group.
If anything, the lack of a conclusive showdown will be seen as a
bitter blow to Beijing's ruling Com-unist Party, which is intent on
demonstrating its ability to crush a group that claims millions of
adherents across Chi-a.
While the battalions of police did manage to keep unrest from
sweeping across the square, the heavy-handed tactics only exposed a
weakness in the world's most populous nation.
Once again, Chin- was unable to quiet the voice of Falun Gong
followers. They shouted from vans as they were being taken away.
They screamed to onlookers as the police knocked them to the ground.

Well organized underground

Tiananmen Square was the scene of nearly constant protest throughout
the day. In small clusters, teams would race into the center of the
square, pulling out a hidden banner before police converged. This
reporter watched as one man was knocked to the ground and hustled away
in seconds.
The series of protests, clearly organized in advance, reiterated
what many have been murmuring for months in official circles:
Beijing's hard-headed approach is not winning the year-long battle
with the pesky Falun Gong.
Beijing would desperately like to deliver a knockout blow to the
group, which has gained immense popularity in the mainland since its
formation in 1992. The group offers a rare and refreshing philosophy
that mixes mediation and exercise. -hina condemns it as a rel-gious
cult. The Falun Gong was outlawed last July.
Yet, despite mass arrests, long sentences in labor camps
administered without trial, and other harsh measures that have earned
C-ina fresh-new condemnation by human rights groups worldwide - as
well as providing new ammunition for foes opposing the country's
entry to the World Trade Organ-ation in Am-rica - Beijing has been
unable to crush the Falun Gong. That has been the hope of the ruling
party in Beijing, which has endured months of almost daily protests
in the square. Hardly a day goes by without new reports of protests,
arrests and condemnation of the group. Most protests have been small
in recent weeks. A few members of the group would appear and try to
unfurl a banner before being spirited away by secret police.
That Tuesday's confrontations were seen as something of a showdown.
All week, the state-run press unleashed a barrage of condemnation
rare even for the Ch-nese go-ernment. The official Chi-a Daily ran
editorials every day last week, linking the Falun Gong to all of
Chi-a's perceived enemies, from human-rights groups at the U-ited
Nations to arch-enemy, the Da-ai Lama.
Amer-ca was singled out in a virulent but largely incoherent
tirade that detailed the large pri-on population in the Unit-d
States and pointed out its high proportion of bla-ks. From there,
it wandered through a litany of US evils including hypocrisy on
human rights abuses to the still-stinging Ame-ican bombing of the
C-inese Embassy in Belgrade.
Ameri-a was also attacked for taking action on domestic terrorism
while criticizing the C-inese crackdown the Falun Gong. The editorial
called the Falun Gong a more dangerous cult than the Branch Davidians,
or anything seen from Japan to Uganda. "The Falun Gong really has
Beijing scared," a Western diplo-at said in an obvious understatement.
Why is Beijing so afraid?
To many inside and outside Ch-na, it must seem a mystery. How can
a group largely made up of elderly people waving their arms and
practicing breathing in parks be seen as a challenge to an entire
country? Yet that's the case, and misinformation flows freely
throughout this still-largely closed society.
"Keep away from the square," a Ch-nese guide warned Tuesday at the
nearby Forbidden City. "There is a revolution going on there."
Indeed, that is how many in Chi-a perceive any confrontational
group. They can hardly be blamed, given the rhetoric and condemnation
coming from the Chi-ese side. Contrasting the hysteria in the run-up
to the protests in the square, no local media coverage was given to
the actual events and the police response on April 25.
The Falun Gong, with its mixture of re-gious philosophy and
meditative exercise, might seem to some an unlikely foe. Yet politics
and reli-ous philosophy have often mixed in explosive ways in the
Middle Kingdom.
One only has to go back to the Taiping Rebellion in the 19th
century, when an aspiring Chi-ese civil servant decided he was the
brother of J--us.
Gathering adherents, he soon mustered an army that took Nanjing
and marched on Shanghai. An astonishing 20 million C-inese were
estimated to have died in that civil war.
Many can easily draw parallels to the Falun Gong, which was founded
by Li Hongzhi, a former government grain clerk who now lives in New
York. The group claims 70 million to 100 million adherents worldwide.
Beijing asserts the number in C-ina is only 2 million, and contends
that 98 percent have since renounced the "brainwashing" of the
alleged cult.
Whatever the exact number, tens of thousands of its members have
been arrested since the Communist Party banned the movement last
year. Falun Gong spokespeople say at least 5,000 members have been
condemned to labor camps in administrative actions that do not
require a trial.
Beijing accuses the Falun Gong of causing the deaths of more than
1,500 people, mostly by forcing them to forgo medical care for serious
illnesses.
Another 600 have been driven insane, according to gov-rnment
statements.

Fear and Loathing in Tiananmen Square

And so the battle lines have been drawn. Tuesday, they were crossed.
Again and again.
By morning, Beijing's central square was surrounded by police. Time
and again, they grabbed people and pushed them into waiting vans. By
noon, nearly a hundred had been taken away.
Roadblocks were manned on key approaches to the square, where
identity cards were checked by other security teams. "The idea is to
not even let anyone close to the square," an observer said.
The tough tactics did not break the Falun Gong, but they produced
plenty of fear. "Nothing happened," said a photographer who snaps
pictures to sell to tourists in Tiananmen. Seconds before, police
knocked a man to the ground paces away, then dragged him into a
waiting van. It sped off, before his eyes. "It is nothing at all,"
he insisted before moving quickly away.
Few in the square were willing to talk about the events around
them, but many were listening. Ch-nese tourists hustled away from
reporters, glancing fearfully at secret police on the scene. They
mobbed the square with mobile phones and security cameras. No
attempt at stealth was made. "They are trying to send a message,"
a reporter on the scene said.
Oddly enough, the crackdown was played out in full view of foreign
tourists, who continued to flock to Tiananmen Square and nearby
tourist attractions.
Among them were a British couple who said they noticed big crowds
on the square, but nothing unusual.
Tom, a visitor from North Carolina, said many in his group were
worried about security on the square during the anniversary. "But
I see it as an opportunity," he said, "an opportunity to witness
history."
Rolf, from Germany, was also aware of his witness status. "I saw
the police, pulling people, taking them away," he said. "It was
horrible."
If a message had been sent on the anniversary of the Falun Gong's
first protest, Rolf said he would happily convey it. However, it
wasn't quite the message Beijing wants the world to hear.
"I'll tell people what I saw today on Tiananmen," he said. Then,
before getting in his mini-bus, he said: "This is terrible. This is
democracy in Ch-na."
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R-n Gl-ckman is an American reporter who has been based in H-ng Kong
since 1990, when he began visiting Ch-na for a wide variety of
publications. This story ran on MSNBC network on April 25, 2000.

JW The leader of this group is called by his friends, Master Li. He
is a very nice young fellow who studies about UFOs. I have studied
his teachings before and they are a lot like "The Teachings Of The
Masters Of The Far East."

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Is There A Planet Called Vulcan? April 13, 2001.

Here is some information sent to me by a person who was formerly
in Europe but now has come the the US. This is the type of
information that I was taught when I first got on the Path.

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From: J
Subject: Planet Vulcan and Solar System
Dear Star People and crew members,
Cmdr.Lyur here,
A member of our lists asked a question about the planet Vulcan, as seen
in Star Trek.
It seems that a type of Vulcan planet has been discovered right where
Star Trek was putting Spock's planet, in the star system of Epsilon
Eridani. Stunning, non ? See the discovery at :
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/epsilon_vulcan_
000804.html
For the Trekkies go to :
http://www.sb254.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000050.html
talking about Star Trek, we suspect that within the Trekkies there
might be a good number of new star people including the indigo
children, so if some of you may want to try to connect with them, you
may try to post on the many messages boards for the Trekkies :
http://www.sb254.com/cgi-bin/ubb/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro&Bypass
Cookie=true
Please respect the topics of Star Trek it is just fine to ask the
question: "what if the Star Trek universe would really exist and that
some of us would be real Starfleet personnel incarnated on Earth?
Have a look at the real Starfleet : www.starshiplight.com " Such
message posted on the Star Trek boards may be accepted.
In traditional Earth esoterism, Alice Bailey would put the planet
Vulcan near Mercury. ( JW I think that in this case, she was
correct. Many times in the past astronomers have seen Vulcan when
eclipes of the Sun happen. It is the first planet after the Sun and
closest to the Sun.)
Now I have been connected with a good number of contactees with
the space brothers in 30 years of public mission for the Ashtar
Command. What I had gathered as well from my own contacts is that it
also seems to be a Vulcan planet in our solar system, that would
hidden on the other side of the Sun, along with another hidden
planet. (no, not Nibiru, would be a name like Proserpine..). With
the planet Maldek (Mallona) destroyed about 100,000 years ago, that
would make 12 planets in our system.
Now for you enjoyment, here we have a tour of the solar system
according to the Command and the space brothers, calling themselves
also "MAN". (in big letters compared to the man of planet Earth)
Golden Love to all
Cmdr.Lyur
*************
Solar System as Described by MAN.
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Mercury:

Mercury is described as devoid of native life. However, MAN,
is present in a controlled environment in certain locations on the
planet. Mercury is used as a research station and the installations
of MAN are of a scientific nature.

VENUS:

Here, native life is described as being present in two different
life forms. Physical life (such as our own) and etheric life. MAN,
in spirit form without a physical body.
The present civilization is about five thousand years in advance
of earth. In all the Solar System, Venus, is nearest to the earth
in terms of evolution. Space probes from earth are reporting
inhospitable conditions. Such probes are reporting exactly what the
Venusians want them to report at this time.
Venus has several large oceans, much rainfall, all caused by
the "green house effect" of their cloud cover. In controlled
locations, the atmosphere is mild and balmy. There is lush vegetation
present. Outside the controlled climate of selected locations, the
planet is as represented by current science.
Venus physically rotates on its axis in a counter-clockwise
direction which produces a positive magnetic field about the planet.
In contrast, the earth has a negative magnetic field. Earth rotaes
with a clockwise motion.

Earth:

MAN has described the earth as one of the most beautiful of the
planets. Earth, a cosmic egnima until just recently. All life forms
exibit counter-productive attitudes to the growth of awareness.
Noted as a planet where competition -- The Survival of The Fittest
--an un-natural law, is manifest. The planet Earth is now shielded
from the Lambda Meson rays, a type of harmful radiation coming from
the sun. As a result earth is now in the process of changing into
its true normal state.

Mars:

On Mars, MAN is present in the controlled environment of vast
underground installations. Little oxygen is present on the planet's
surface, but underground the integrity of the atmosphere is preserved.
The polar ice-caps do melt and the water is distributed via ancient
waterways above and below the planet's surface. Only a few of MAN's
installations are present upon the surface.
Mars is an industrial culture centered on the production of
spacecraft. Forty-five percent of all craft, in this sector of space,
are produced on Mars. Their underground cities have many domed
buildings and sweeping architecture. There are many parks and
recreational areas. Mars is the hub of communications and a link
between the solar system and the outer galaxies. Station KOR, the
main communications facility, is located in the Utopia area on the
North Regio Plateau.
Their educational system is extensive and is freely available
to all. It is worthy of earthly understanding. A typical workday is
about four hours of our time in duration. Leisure time is spent in
recreation and artistic pursuits.
One of the remarkable features of Mars is the sporadic chains
of pyramidal structures scattered about the planets surface.
The Martian moon Phobos is the larger of the two moons and is
approximately 12 miles in diameter and 17 miles in length. It orbits
the planet every 7 hours and 40 minutes. This unusual orbital velocity
defies the laws of planetary motion. It is far too close to the planet
to have such a velocity.
This is explained by MAN. Both Phobos and Deimos are artificial
moons placed in orbit about Mars some 3000 years ago. Their purpose
is to act as dynamic stabilizers of Mars' orbit about the sun. To
prevent Mars from changing its orbit as a result of the destruction
of the planet known as Maldek. Maldek is now known to us as the
Asteroid Belt.

Jupiter:

The mightiest of all the planets in the Solar System. It has
twelve moons, some of which are artificial. Some of these moons are
used as recreational areas. The planet is engulfed in tremendous
cloud formations which obscure its surface. Jupiter has the oldest
native race and civilization in the Solar System. It was the only
planet that was inhabited when the other planets of this Solar System
were colonized.
The race of MAN on Jupiter is known as the Adamic Race. Two
individuals, a MAN and a WOMAN, were the original colonists that
introduced MAN to the earth. Note: This is the basis for the Adam
and Eve legend.
A gigantic forcefield, around this planet, causes light to be
reflected in a strange way. Visual observation, and photographs do
not reveal the true environment on this planet. The surface of the
planet is beautiful. The air, warm and balmy. The sky has a golden
color. The native race has a gold colored complexion. The race and
its civilization exist part-way between the physical and the etheric.
MAN is present in both of these states. The planet's environment is
altered and controlled in those areas occupied by physical MAN.

Saturn:

The planet Saturn is known for its many moons and mysterious
rings. MAN describes the rings of Saturn as an artificially created
and maintained forcefield. This forcefield is a protective device
which was erected at the time of the destruction of Maldek. Trapped
particles of cosmic dust and planetary debris, trapped in the field,
reflect sunlight thus causing it to glow. A native race is present
on Saturn in physical form.
Saturn is the great administrative center for MAN in our Solar
System, the home of the Saturn Tribunal. The Tribunal is concerned
with the daily administrative details which affect MAN in this area
of space. Representatives from all the planets in the Solar System
are present when the Tribunal is in session. The natives of Saturn
are noted for their balanced mental, emotional, and physical
at-one-ment. There are many beautiful cities and buildings on this
planet. Marble is used in the construction of many of the buildings.
The planet's environment is controlled. Everywhere there is
beautiful landscaping and a wide variety of color. The parks and
gardens are extraordinary and known for their beauty.
Everything about Saturn is a brilliant tribute to the artistic
qualities of MAN. This is evidenced in the buildings, homes, parks,
cities and countryside.

The Chronomonitors:

We should speak at this time about a remarkable starship built
by the Martians. This ship is similar to a robot except that it is
an intelligence that has awareness. It is capable of independent
reasoning and is possessed of powers of defense and offense. These
craft are under the direct control of various Tribunals throughout
the universe. They constantly roam areas of space, patrolling and
monitoring all activities. They then report all events which
transpire to their various local and Galactic Tribunals.
After these craft are built they are placed in a special orbit
beyond the planet Pluto. They then disappear. After a period of time
they re-appear, but possessed now with awareness. Their awareness
and other special powers and abilities are given to them by an
evolved form of MAN in another level of awareness and in another
dimension. Although they serve MAN under the guidance of various
Tribunals, they will not act upon or follow unwise directives. The
Chronomonitor starships are the most remarkable intelligences in the
physical universe.

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Is There A Planet Called Vulcan? Part 2 of 2.
April 15, 2001

I might add that many of the people who live on other planets are
of a higher dimension and can't be seen by most physical people.
Some of the people live underground and some live in the canals like
are seen on Mars. When you go there be prepared and wear you
space-suit.

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Uranus:

The clouds surrounding this planet create an illusion of great
cold. However, under these clouds there is a beautiful planet. The
climate is atificially maintained.
Uranus is described as a beautiful world similar to the earth.
It is the only planet in the Solar System that is used as a planet
of recreation. It is a garden spot with forests and lush vegetation.
There is only one ocean present. but it is large and has a magnificent
shoreline. Living areas are scattered about the planet and are not
concentrated in any particular area. However, it is also renowned
for its institutions of learning. Students from many star systems
have studied on this planet.
A native race of MAN is present. This race of MAN has a special
talent itself, in that they have an unusual sense of direction and
spatial relationship. Uranians, therefore, because of their unique
ability, provide exceptional navigators for the starships of many
worlds. The relaxed and peaceful atmosphere present on this planet
is caused by special qualities of the air itself. These qualities
contribute to the relaxed and harmonious state that is experienced
by all the natives and the students and visitors who visit this
world.

Neptune:

Neptune is also a beautiful planet and is described as having
an atmosphere that is electric-blue in color. The native race of MAN
that is present has evolved beyond the physical, into the etheric
state. Therefore, native MAN is a spirit of Light living in the
planets atmosphere. As a service of love they provide outstanding
works of art. These art forms are created by thought and its control
of physical matter by the use of the Mind. This art is an item of
export to all of the inhabited worlds of MAN everywhere in the
universe. The art works of Neptune are known throughout many galaxies.
The natives of this planet can materialize a physical body whenever
the occasion warrants. The planet itself is very beautiful and its
vegetation has been allowed to return to a state of natural
wilderness, as MAN no longer lives on its surface.

Pluto:

Again, appearances are deceiving. This planet would appear to
be a frozen desolate world. Pluto is an arid desert world of white
sand. Light reflecting from the bleached white sand of its deserts
is responsible for this appearance. MAN is present, not as a native
race, but in the sense that this world has been modified and used
by Man in a unique way. Pluto is used by MAN as the hub of commerce,
trade and the exchange of goods. Huge loading docks, storage
warehouses and spaceports are present. Spacecraft from the various
planets in our Solar System, are here by the hundreds. One can find
anything, just by brousing through the various trade centers.
Starships from a thousand different worlds, scattered throughout
many galaxies, regularly visit this planet and load and unload their
cargoes. Pluto is an ideal world for this activity because of its
proximity, to not only the planets of our Solar System, but because
of our location near the edge of this Milky Way Galaxy. It is an
ideal way-side stop in the trans-shipment of cargo to our neighboring
galaxy, the Greater Magellanic Cloud.
Pluto provides for the observer, a window into the reaches beyond
the Solar System. Magnificent view of celestial phenomena, such as
a comet are easily seen and studied from its surface.
Beyond Pluto lies an artificial planetoid, called, Charon, built
by MAN, that is used as an orbiting space docking center and City.
Starships so large that they cannot land upon a planet's surface,
or maneuver safely within the confines of a Solar System, are moored
here in space. Large warehouses, on this planetoid, provide a transfer
point for interstellar trade. The cargos of visiting starships are
unloaded here and then ferried to Pluto by more conventional craft.
This is a fascinating place to visit, for one can see all the various
types of starships that MAN has fashioned. Here, also, we see the
legendary ships from the planets of the star known as Procyon. These
craft represent technologies and evolutions of a most advanced form of
MAN. An estimate of the age of these ones approaches, what could be
called in your terminology, an age of over fifty billion years.
Pluto, and the planetoid beyond it, is ideally situated on the
outskirts of our Solar System. It is MAN's last outpost in this Solar
System. A trip to this trade center, from any of the planets in our
Solar System, via a spacecraft, is only a matter of minutes. Beyond
stretches the vast reaches of galactic space.
Solar System, via a spacecraft, is only a matter of minutes. Beyond
stretches the vast reaches of galactic space.
source :
http://venus.spaceports.com/~gored/environ.htm# Described by MAN.
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Subject: The Devil Made Me Do It. Part 4. April 16, 2001.

I will have to agree that the author of this material seems to
call everyone a bad person. Maybe he is stretching the point in
some cases but then some of this may be true. The following is
pretty bad information and may have a tendency to ruin your day.

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It is the same with the inner circles of the Freema-ons. Credo Mut-a,
the Zulu shaman, told me that compared with the Freemas-n rituals he
had seen in the Un-ted States and the Unit-d Kingdom, the voodoo and
black magic of Africa was put in the shade. The secret password of
Freem-sonry is Tubal Cain, a descendant of the biblical Cain, who was
an An-nnaki crossbreed. Tubal Cain's sister, Naamah '17 is said to have
been the one who brought human sacr-fice and ca-nibalism into the
world." Tubal Cain is known as the father of wit-hcraft and so-cery and
thus his name is a Freema-onic password." The 'G' on the symbol of
Freemason-y stands for Gnosticism (knowledge, knowing) and for
generation, the fertility rites of the s-x cults of ancient Baal and
Ashtoreth." No doubt it is also a symbol connected to generation and
genetics, as in the reptilian bloodlines. You see the 'G' in the logo
of the Gann-tt chain which has been buying up newspapers and television
stations across the Un-ted States and publishes the national daily,
LI-A Today.' The de Medici bloodline of the Bl-ck Nobility in Venice,
who funded Christopher Columbus, included Catherine de Medici, the
Qu-en of France, who was reported to have commissioned human sa-rifice
in a B-ack Mass in the 16th century. A young boy was sacri-iced and the
blo-d used in a communion designed to save her dying son, Philip.
Medici wore around her neck a talisman with the name of the Satanic
de-on, Asmodei. Benjamin Fra-klin, a so-called pillar of the Chr-stian
Church and Founding Father of the U-ited States, was a member of the
Satanic H-llfire Club and the bodies of six ch-ldren and four a-ults
have been found under his former home in Lo-don dated to the time he
lived there. Adolf Hitler and the Nazis were Satanists and so were
their 'opponents' like Winston Chur-hill and Franklin Delano Roo-evelt.
The Ro-hschilds, formerly the infamous Ger-an occult family, the
Bauers, apparently use the Canaanite Satanic rituals" while some of the
bl-odline families with long connections to the Celtic lands, like the
St Cl-ir-Sin-lairs, prefer the Druid system." It was the Satanic
deity, Ashtoreth, which inspired the name, A-tor, one of the bloodline
families which has been heavily involved in Satanism. The As-ors have
close connections to the British r-yal family and they were at the
heart of the Prof-mo scandal in 1963 when the British Defe-ce Minister,
John Pro-umo, was forced to resign after lying to the House of Commons
about his involvement with Christine K-eler, a c-ll girl who was also
having a se-ual relationship with a Russian K-B agent. The
Profumo-Ke-ler liaison was arranged by Stephen W-rd, a sado-mas-chist
and bla-k magician, who lived in a house on the Asto- estate at
Clivedon in Berkshire. There was much more to this than was allowed to
come out and if it ever does it will once again shine a light on some
very dark practices and connect with the highest echelons of British
society, including the Wi-dsors. Prince Ph-lip knew Stephen War- and
Lord Mou-tbatten was a guest at the infamous 'swimming party' at
Cli-eden which played a major role in P-ofumo's downfall.
What is called Satanism is the ruling hierarchy of the Broth-rhood
pyramid under the command of the rep-ilians. Like all the other parts
of the network, it is strictly compartmentalised. The highest levels of
the Satanic network lock into the highest levels of the Br-therhood,
but the lower degrees are not allowed to know the true nature of the
organization they are involved in. Some of the levels of Satanism are
known as the Sisters of Light, the Five Star Generals, Master
Counsellors, Keeper of the Books, Keeper of the Seals, and there is one
position called an Asmodeus." One of the global centers of Satanism is
the Castle of Darkness, the Ch-teau des Amerois or Ca-tle of Kings, in
Belgium, near the appropriately named village of Muno Bel. The castle
is close to the French border and some 20 kilometres from Luxemburg. It
is protected from view by thick forests and guards keep out the
curious. In the grounds is a cathedral with a dome containing 1,000
lights. When President George B--h talked of 1,000 points of light, he
was speaking in code about this place of initiation for the highest
initiates of the Satanic pyramid. In this Satanic cathe-ral is the
throne of the high priestess of the upper hierarchy, a position known
as the Queen M-ther. Every day, apparently, a child is sacri-iced in
the basement.' Ceremonies are performed here to the Satanic 'g-ddess'
known as Lilith, a de-on in the Hebrew Cabala. In ancient Sumer the
reptilian bloodline, as passed on through the female, was symbolized as
a lily and the main reptilian gene carriers were given names like
Lilith, Lili, Lilutu and Lillette. Another dem-n used by some 'Mothers'
is called Bilair, Bilar, and Bilid, cabalistic names for the force
others call Satan, etc." It is from these lands in Belgium and northern
France that the bloodline families came, including the Bru-es, to take
over Scotland all those centuries ago. Belgium, this little country
between France and the Netherlands, is also the home of the European
Uni-n, N-TO, and, I am told, a massive computer center where databases
on all the people of the world are being compiled. It is known
apparently as 'the Be-st' and there are a number of these around the
world. An El-te mind control operation called the Ja-us Group is also
based in the NAT- headquarters. Nimrod was Eannus, the go- with two
faces, who was later known to the Romans as Jan-s. The reason that
Belgium is a headquarters for Satanism and so many Bro-herhood
institutions is very simple. The Brotherho-d created Belgium for just
this reason in 1831 and they imposed upon it a reptilian 'r-yal' line,
the House of Sa-e-Coburg-Go-ha, the bloodline of the British royal
family and, through its branch in Prussia, the supporters of Adam
Wei-haupt, the founder of the Bavarian Illu-inati.
The paedophile m-rder ring which came to light in Belgium in 1996 is
but one part of the Satanic network operating from and in that country.
It was organized by Marc D-troux, who is connected to the Satanic Order
of Abr-sax, based in the village of Forchies-la-Ma-che near Charleroi
in southern Belgium, not far from the Castle of Darkness. A-rasax is
Abrax-s, a fat-bellied d-mon from whom, it is likely, the magicians
term, abracadabra, originated. Dutrou- buried alive an accomplice,
Bernard We-nstein, and among Weinst-in's effects was a letter from the
Abra-ax group signed by someone describing himself as the Egyptian -od,
Anu-is. It ordered him to provide 'presents' for the High Priestess of
the Order and apparently gave specific details of the age and s-x the
victims must be. The British Sunday Times reported the accounts of
witnesses describing B-ack Masses in which ch-ldren were k-lled in
front of audiences which included prominent members of Belgian
society." A Belgian newspaper reported that a former commissioner of
the European U-ion was among a group of judges, senior politicians,
lawyers, and pol-cemen, who attended orgies at a Belgian chateau
organized by Michel Ni-oul, one of the accomplishes of Marc D-troux,
the alleged leader of the paedophile ring. One investigator said it was
"Like going back to the Middle Ages".' In fact there has not been an
old, middle, and modem age with regard to these rituals. It is a
seamless flow over thousands of years under the control of the same
bl-odlines. Human sku-ls were found at the sacr-ficial sites identified
by witnesses, particularly at the sect's headquarters. The Satanic
group behind the Belgian mu-ders is said to interconnect with similar
rings in Holland, Germany, and Am-rica. In truth, it will be part of
the global network which operates in all countries. Satanism is run
like a transnational corporation.
Bla-k magic rituals are going on all over the world and I have spoken
with victims in country after country. In Eng-and I met a brave woman,
then aged 40. The story she told me of her experiences mirrored those of
so many others. She was born in Darlington in the 1950s, and soon after
she was sold by her Satanic father to two other Satanists. She knew
them only as Tho-as and He-ena. She was brought up in the most horrific
circumstances at a chi-dren's home in Hu-l which was run by two child
abusers. At night a torchlight was shone into their bedrooms and when
it was held on a ch-ld for a minute or so, they knew it was their turn
to go downstairs and be -exually abused. During holidays back in
Darlin-ton, from the age of just seven and eight, she met her father
who linked her with the two Satanists, T-omas and H-lena. She would be
given drugs via orange juice and ice cream and be taken at night in a
van to country chu-ches in the Da-lington area. The drugs were designed
to make her easier to mind control and to prevent her from remembering
what she saw. I will explain more about this in the next chapter.
However, as is often the case when people enter their 30s and 40s, the
victims can begin to have flashbacks of their ordeals. They experience
them again like watching a movie screen.
It is for this reason that so many were mur-ered before they reach that
age, often for 'sn-ff' videos, which show in graphic detail a person
being murd-red. Others are subjected to the snatch back when they are
abducted to undergo 'booster' mind-programming to keep the memories
secret. Increasing numbers of people who survived their horrendous
young lives, are now beginning to remember and they are telling the
same basic tale. If you are one of them, please contact me if you have
anything to add to what I outline here. An address is at the back of
the book. Within days of speaking to me, my informant says she was
grabbed off the street and bungled into a van by six Satanists. A
syringe was held to her throat and she was warned to stop talking to
"Mat dangerous prat, Icke" and to stop naming names. They threatened
her life and those of her children if she continued. She was also told
that if she didn't keep quiet, the family d-g would be taken and
"Posted back to you in pieces". Nice people.

Part 4.

John Winston john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Latest From My Spiritual Warrior Friends. April 16, 2001.

I think it will be OK if I pass on to you the following information.

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From: S
Subject: Update
Hi Guys,
I don't send out too many updates anymore, because each time I do, we
tend to get psychic attacks. Just know the work is ongoing....
Today we discovered something that relates to the neck pains that
everyone is having. It seems the Dweller aspect wasn't purified yet.
This is the accumulated energy pool of e-il from all our past lives
where we did assorted nefarious deeds - dastardly stuff. It collects in
a karmic pool in the outer chakras at the base of the skull until it is
all paid off. The Dweller aspect needs purifying before we can become
enlightened. It stands as a Guardian at the door to enlightenment until
it is totally pure.
This Dweller aspect resides in the chakras in the aura that are 45:
back right of the Quelle chakra at the base of the skull. The Quelle
Chakra relates to our conscience and all the aspects of it. So my neck
was hurting, and I traced it to this area, and looked it up on the
chakra chart. ( http://members.yournet.com/jobrien/CHAK.html ) I saw
what it related to, and we worked on it. But I thought we had cleared
it out before. It seems that it draws the cellular memories of our
past evi-, up to the neck area to get worked out. I could feel the
stuff coming up from the legs. It was causing some problems with
them. We worked on clearing and purifying this for all Humanity.
But it will probably need more layers taken off as it accumulates,
until it is all gone. We asked permission to do this, and permission
was granted. We have also specified that nothing that we do will
work unless it is for the Highest Good.
There was another problem we were all having with the chakras out to
the right of the main 3rd eye chakra. These also needed clearing in
order for people to start remembering who they really are. There was
a master Overlord that was in charge of masking the true nature of
reality for us. We found that there were a group of elementals that
had been assigned to guard that outer chakra so that we would not find
out who we were. They were blocking the kundalini from rising. But
it is now time for everyone to wake up. So the elementals and their
oversouls and Overlord were reprogrammed and reassigned.
There was an energy meridian between the outer 3rd eye chakra on the
right side, and the third eye chakra straight out front, that needed
re-energizing in order for us all to see Truth. It is being done.
After we did this one, it was time to stop. We were getting pretty well
spaced out and wiped out. Tired... There is still a bit more to go,
but you can only do so much at one time, or people go into shock. We
sure did!
Some of the other stuff we did lately was to do healing on the group
spirit of all the World Gove-nments. It seems to have worked. Ruth
checked it out for us to make sure. It will take time for the wheels to
turn, but there is a change of g-vernment scheduled for later this
year. The states will get back their Sovereign power. Other nations
will also experience their change in go-ernment. And we were told that
there will be no further need for the mi-itaries of the world. We had
done a healing on the group spirit of them, but I guess it won't be
needed after all...
The Native Americans were inadvertantly grounding themselves to the
old 3D earth, so we asked the Holy Spirit to get them grounded to the
ascending earth, and She did.
We don't think that Bu-- will last long, and neither will Ch-ney.
There may be a period of confusion as the changes occur, but some
psychics have seen that people will be happy in the latter part of
August. Some people have had visions of the ships arriving. Things
are going along pretty fast, now. This could be an understatement..
.. ;-)
We also made a change in the equal/opposite/merge edict that works
better than the former one. Jack was told that it should be said as
follows: "I am taking (whatever it is you want to get rid of) and
taking the root cause, the sponsoring energies, and the energies
themselves, and I am merging them with the equal and opposite energies
derived by the most appropriate Energy Fields." I questioned the
wording that they had given him, and it turns out that the Energy Fields
are intelligent! They pick the appropriate energies to use.
This edict can be used for various purposes. You can get rid of toxins,
negative emotions that are not appropriate, ev-l energies, and varieties
of other things. We use it to get rid of "everything in a person's
energy fields multidimensionally that doesn't belong or is not for their
highest good." This covers a lot of bases! (read the Healing Package
for what it covers)
S and Jack

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[John F. Winston]

Subject: Convention About Conspiracies. April 19, 2001.

It looks like there will be a convention in the Bay Area with a
few of the people who I quote in my postings. I'll put a * mark
before each person's name who I've quoted before.

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Subject: The Devil Made Me Do It. Part 5. April 18, 2001.

This information is from David Icke. This part tells something
about the lady called Arizona Wilder. This information is very bad
and it will probably make you have conscientious scruples.

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In the ordeals at the country ch-ches which she now remembers, my
English informant and other chil-ren would be used in Satanic rituals
involving s-x, torture, and mu-der. The windows of the c-urch were
covered over with b-ack drapes and the inside was laid out according to
Satanic law with different colors used for different ceremonies
depending on the time of year. Sometimes they would use the chur-hes in
secret, but don't underestimate how many people in the Ch-istian cl-rgy
are also members of the Satanic network. The Satanists, she remembers,
were dressed in robes and a number wore masks, including the face of
-goat or Baphomet, the deity the Tem-lars were accused of worshipping.
In the UK, as in America, some of the best known names in the country
are involved. She members vividly (G-d, the thought of it), being laid
on her back on the floor of a c-urch as a screaming b-y, no more than
six, was being held by the hair above her while a man, who she would
later identify as a top pol-tician in Northern Ir-land, ad anal -ex
with him. When it was over, a knife was produced to cut the b-y's
th-oat and the bl-od poured over her. "I remember this man's eyes," she
told me. "The coldness of his eyes I will never forget." He prefers
b-ys to gi-ls, she said.
On more than one occasion, she says, she was brutally r-ped by a man
who has been a major name in Un-ted Kin-dom pol-tics for decades. This
man, she says, used I to hold her na-ed body to him by using ho-ks
inserted into her fl-sh at the hi-. She was just a little g-rl when
this was happening. She told me that this man was Ed-ard He-th and
his name comes up again and again in interviews with victims of
Satanic abuse in Britain. Hea-h was the UK Pr-me Min-ster from
1970-74 and the Bil-erberg G-oup member who signed the UK into the
Eu-opean Community, now U-ion. He has been one of the main
architects of Br-tain's further integration into the Un-ted Fas-ist
States of Europe. One of the many unconnected people who have
identified Heat- as a Satanist was the lady I mentioned early in the
book who saw the 'lizard' figure at Bu-nham Be-ches in
Buc-inghamshire near to the Bri-ish Prime Min-ster's Official
country residence called Che-uers. The game of cheq-ers is played
on a board of b-ack and w-ite squares - the floor plan of all
Fre-rnasonic temples. Bu-nham B-echesnni not that far from High
Wyc-mbe and the headquarters of the H-lifire Club Of Be-jamin
Fra-klin and Sir Fr-ncis Das-wood. I'm sure Bu-nham Beec-es would
have been one of their haunts, too. This lady was the w-fe of the
Head Ke-per at B-rnham Be-ches and they lived on the land. She had
been brought up by a Satanic family in Scotland and had been
s-xually and ri-ually abused as a ch-ld by the Sco-tish Bro-herhood
network. Her husband was also a Satanist which is why he was the
responsibility of looking after B-rnham Beech-s, an area of ancient
groves and forests managed by the authorities in Lo-don and including
an area called E-ypt Wo-d. Late one night in the early 1970s during
Hea-h's reign as Pri-e Min-ster, she was taking her dog for a walk when
she saw some lights. Quietly she moved closer to see what was going on.
To her horror she saw that it was a Satanic ritual and in the circle
was the then P-ime Min-ster, Edw-rd He-th, and his Chancellor of the
Ex-hequer, An-hony Ba-ber. She says that as she watched him, Hea-h
began to transform into a reptile and she said that what surprised her
was that no-one in the circle seemed in the least surprised. "He
eventually became a full-bodied Reptiloid, growing in size by some two
foot." She said he was "slightly sc-ly" and "spoke fairly naturally,
although it sounded like 'long distance' - if you can imagine the short
'time lapses". I remember well meeting He-th on a television election
program in 1989 while I was a spokesman for the Br-tish Gr-en Party
and I have never seen such cold and unpleasant eyes in my life. I knew
nothing of these subjects then, but the look of his eyes I have never
forgotten.
Another famous paedophile and Satanist in Britain is Lord M-Alpine,
the former trea-urer of H-ath's Con-ervative Party, and executive of the
McAl-ine Construction empire. He also followed the late Jimmy Go-dsmith
as head of the Ref-rendum Party in B-itain which was created to hijack
the groups opposing the European Un-on and lead them to glorious
failure. McAl-ine, who is heavily involved in a network of Brother-ood
secret societies, including the Freem-sons, has been publicly named as
a paedophile by the investigative magazine, Scallywag. He was accused
of having o-al -ex with an underage boy in 1965 and was formerly
cautioned by Strath-lyde Police for -exual offences against a minor.
McAl-ine was also named by one of the former residents at the Br-n A-yn
Chi-dren's Home in North W-les who said he was forced to have -ral se-
with him. The McAl-ine family is one of the El-te blo-dlines of
Scot-and, possibly connecting with the ancient Sco-ttish king, Kenneth
McAl-in. The McAlp-ne family has a long history of Satanism in in its
ranks, as does the Scottish Ke-wick family. Both are part of a web
which operates across the world into the Far East and Australia. A
close friend of the Mc-lpines is Willie Wh-telaw, a chairman of the
Con-ervative Party. He was also Deputy Prime Mi-ister to Ma-garet
Tha-cher, who was 'minded' by Wh-telaw, the McA-pines, and Sir Geoffrey
H-we, during her years as Pr-me Mi-ister. When she had outlived her
usefulness to the Bro-herhood, it was Ho-e who made the speech in the
House of Co-mons which effectively ended her reign. Wh-telaw was named
as a leading Satanist by self-confessed Satanist, Derry
Mainwaring-Kni-ht, at Maid-tone Crown Court in 1986. As usual, nothing
was done about it. Mainwaring-Knig-t lived near East Gr-nstead, one of
the centers of Satanisim in En-land. In Scotland, a foremost Satanic
center is Loch Ness, near Inverness, the home, according to the legend,
of the famous reptile, the Loch Ness monster. So what could these
legends really be symbolic of? Aleister Cr-wley, the best known
Satanist of the 20th century, had a house at Loch Ness and it was to
this area that he came to perform some of his most powerful bla-k magic
rituals. A rock formation near the loch called the Rock of Curses has
been used by bla-k magicians for hundreds of years and Cr-wley was
particularly drawn to the energy emanating from a nearby mountain
known as Mealfuorvonie.' There is much more to the legend of the Loch
Ness Monster than meets the eye and the same is true of other
unidentified creatures like the so-called Bigfoot. Some Native American
shamans believe that the entity which manifests as the Bigfoot can also
appear as an aquatic monster or a panther because it has the ability to
shape-shift."
Over and over I have been told by survivors of how they were abused or
programmed at the stately homes of the aristocracy or in rooms under
the Bri-ish Museum and other official buildings in Lon-on. Names of
Co-servative go-ernment ministers keep recurring in survivor's
accounts. Another paedophile is the former Le-cester member of
Parl-ament, Gre-ille Fa-ner, a vociferous campaigner for J-wish causes
in Br-tain. A notorious location for paedophile activities is an
apartment block called Do-phin Squ-re in Pi-lico, the biggest block of
flats in Eu-ope and the Lo-don residence of many members of Pa-liament.
The building has been under surveillance by the British Customs after
the discovery of pornographic material from Amsterdam. One resident was
quoted as saying: "We often have underage boys wandering in the
corridors totally lost, asking for the flat of a particular ME" Pi-lico
has been nicknamed 'Pimp-lico' because of the widespread use of bo-
prosti-utes known as rent boys. The Dolphin Sq-are resident, David
St-el, the Sco-tish for-er leader of the Li-eral De-ocrats, has
actively supported campaigns for 'gay rights' by Ian Cam-bell D-nn, a
planning officer at Edin-urgh District Co-ncil. But Mr C-mpbell wants
rather more than just 'gay rights'. He is a founding member of the
Paedophile Information Excha-ge (PIE), which wants to legalize -ex with
children." Should Mr Ste-l be supporting such a character? The former
cabinet mi-isters, Michael Po-tillo and Peter Li-ley, are apparently
regular diners at the restaurant in Dol-hin Square along with many
famous political figures. I wonder what the attraction can be? Must be
the food. Yes, definitely the food. People think that ritual abuse and
sac-ifice, if it exists at all, is rare. Like h--l it is. Human
sacr-fice and ritual abuse is rampant. Look at the Satanic ch-ld abuse
and m-rder network exposed in Belgium which involves the police,
judges, and top pol-ticians. The same is coming to light in North
Wa-es and other areas of the UK. The lack of interest by the media is
stunning, if not surprising. Ted G-nderson, a man of 28 years,
experience with the -BI, told a mind control conference in the Un-ted
Sta-es that after long and detailed research, he estimates there are
3.75 million practising Satanists in the US and between 50 and 60,000
human sa-rifices a year. Therapists at the conference said that their
clients had pointed to a massive Satanic grave site in open land
outside Lancaster, Cal-fornia. Another exists, apparently, at
Matamo-os, Mexico. The Satanic ritual network connects into the
chi-dren's homes, ca-e centers, and runaway ho-tels to ensure a
constant supply of ch-ldren. Please tell me what you know.
A short while before this book was sent to the printer, I was contacted
by a friend in the Un-ted St-tes who was deprogramming a mind
controlled slave of the Bro-herhood called Arizona Wilder. I will
explain how this mind control is done in the next chapter. She had been
mind controlled from childhood to be a so-called Mother G-ddess, who
conducts sac-ificial rituals at the highest levels of the global
Bro-herhood. Arizona was one of only three women at that level in the
world.

Part 5.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Sign Yokes. April 20, 2001.

Here are somethings that were passed on to me.

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From: A

Subject: SIGNS OF THE TIMES humor

Sign over a gynecologist's office: "Dr. Jones, at your
cervix."

On a Plumbers truck: "We repair what your husband fixed."

On the trucks of a local plumbing company in NE
Pennsylvania: "Don't sleep with a drip. Call your plumber."

Pizza shop slogan: "7 days without pizza makes one weak."

At a tire shop in Milwaukee: "Invite us to your next
blowout."

Door of a plastic surgeon's office: "Hello. Can we pick your
nose?"

At a towing company: "We don't charge an arm and a leg. We
want tows."

On a maternity room door: "Push. Push. Push."

On a taxidermist's window: "We really know our stuff."

In a podiatrist's office: "Time wounds all heels."

On a fence: "Salesmen welcome! Dog food is expensive."

Outside a muffler shop: "No appointment necessary. We hear
you coming."

In the front yard of a funeral home: "Drive carefully. We'll
wait."

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Subject: Your Not Sick Your Just ----------- April 20, 2001.

A lot of you out there may have been taught to not pay any
attention to pain and your just a sissy if you admit that you have
pain. You don't have to be a hypochondriac but it helps in this
business. If you are a human being and living at the present time
on Earth in the 3rd dimension then you just may have one or all
of the following pains. If you don't then consider yourself lucky
or you just may be dead. All I can say is I wish you well.

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From: S
Subject: Ascension Symptoms from Wujno site
http://communities.msn.Wujno
Headaches This is the second most common mutational
complaint. We'll break it down by type:
Sharp chronic pain in head, neck, or shoulders: Probably
etheric crystals, get them out! Contact an etheric surgeon
trained in this technique. (JW I wonder if they advertise
in the Yellow Pages?)
Cranial expansion: If you are getting lumps, bumps, and
pressure in your skull, your brain is probably growing.
Reach up with your hands and pull the cranial plates
apart. This usually does the trick but if not,
find someone who does cranial-sacral bodywork.
Pressure between the eyebrows: This one feels like someone
has their finger between your eyebrows and is pushing. That
is exactly what you do for it, Take your finger and press
there for a few moments. Usually, it eases right up. This is
the pineal growing. This technique also works for pressure
at the upper back of the skull (pituitary growth) and pressure
on the top of the skull, center back (the fourth eye).
Severe headache at base of the skull: This is what we call an
"under construction" headache. Most people are conditioned
to contract their body and energy bodies when they feel
severe pain. In this case, if you do that it will increase the
pain dramatically. Take your hands and place them over your
ears. Now, imagine that as you move your hands away from
your body, you are also pushing your energy bodies out and
away from your head. It sounds silly, but it works.

Severe mutational headaches that nothing has helped:

1. Inform the "you" in the fifth or sixth dimension, who is
directing this work, that what is being done hurts. The "you"
in Lightbody cannot feel your physical pain, so tell yourself
to back it off.
2. Say "Please release endorphins!" These are natural brain
opiates. Usually you will feel an immediate release and
easing of the pain. 3. Buy some dioptase. This mineral has
dark green crystals on a matrix base; we have found it works
wonders. 4. Potions good for all mutational headaches:
Mystical Articulation and Divine Expression. They boost the
mutational headache very quickly and it seems to help a great
deal.
Flu-like symptoms: This is the most common complaint
because, as you're dropping density, if you don't or can't
transmute it, it's got to come out somehow. (Try
Magnificence, Subatomic Tonic, and Universal Detox.)
Nausea and Vo-miting: Often people who have a lot of stored
fear in their bodies get this. Often there is a lot of mucous in
your body as you are releasing fear. Say the "Invocation to
Water" (I will also include this invocation at the end of the
chapter) over your food and drink. If this doesn't help, let
yourself vom-t. You should feel better quickly. Another thing
that may cause nausea is if your energy bodies are spinning
too fast. It's like motion sickness. If you put your hands out
and tell your fields to slow down, they'll slow. Deliberately
slow down your fields.
If you are clearing things form the human genetic
consciousness in your body, you may have a lot of nausea,
and you will find yourself v-miting energy. (Use Pathcutter
if you are clearing genetics.) This is pretty common. There is
also a vent in the sternum that you may get a lot of pressure
in. If you think of it as the aperture of a camera, and open it
up and kind of spray energy out of your body, it seems to
really help. It's the same with the headaches. There is also
another one of these vent points at the back of the neck in
the middle. If you get a lot of pressure buildup in the head, if
you sort of open that up like a camera aperture, it triggers like
a fire hydrant and it will often release a lot of pressure in the
neck and shoulders.
Diarrhea: We've noticed that people with lots of stored rage
tend to get diarrhea. Once again use the "Invocation to
Water." you may just have to get used to it, because some
people get runs every time they bring in more light into their
bodies.
Muscle Aches and Joint Aches: People with this one usually
have lots of stored resistance. This is also common after
a "walk-in" or a strong dissension. It can be a rejection
reaction at the cellular level. Sometimes it looks like
rheumatoid ar-hritis. Take "Omega 3" fish oil capsules. It
seems to lubricate the body. Also imagine that you are lying
in an ocean of Light with your head toward the shore. As the
waves wash over you, they bring Light with your head toward
the shore. As the waves ebb, they pull out the resistance.
(Surrender, Universal Detox, Ecstasy)
Fevers and Sweats: Many folks get this one without the rest
of the flu symptoms. Sometimes the fever is very high. Your
skin may get quite red. Often a person's energy bodies are
vibrating out of phase with the physical body. You have two
ways to approach it:
1. Lower the vibrations of your fields by slowing the spin
or imagining them growing heavier.
2. Deliberately try to increase the vibration of your body by
trying to make the fever higher, Either way, you should feel a
"click" as they go back into phase and the fever should drop
immediately. Most people have found making yourself hotter
helps. It is easier to do than making yourself cooler.
Tiredness: There are many causes for this. You may be in
re-evaluation or working very hard while asleep. In this case,
honor the energy drop and rest. Also, if it continues, ask your
Spirit for a night off. Notice if your body is doing a lot of
releasing density. (Universal Detox, Fire of Purpose)
Other Physical Symptoms Vibrating while meditating or
on awakening: This is a very natural part of the Lightbody
process, but is often quite alarming when it starts. It simply
means that your vibration is rising. Relax, Enjoy it.
Pain in the exact center of sternum: This is usually the heart
chakra opening to a new level. Breathe and call the Silver
Ray of Grace into the heart. Then deliberately open your
heart chakra. Keep breathing and opening it until the pain
subsides. The heart chakra is the multidimensional gateway.
It may be like a rusty door and may need the lubrication to
open. (Alignment, Ecstasy, Love Potion #9)
Pain in the lower back and hips. If you are in eighth or ninth
level Lightbody, or you are a walk-in, the pain may be caused
by seventh dimensional Divinity thresholds maxing out. See
your etheric surgeon. (E3, Subatomic Tonic, Ecstacy,
Heavenly Body)
Arms and hands tingling or falling asleep: This sometimes
happens for up to four months. Often this is the laying in of
lightbody structures for etheric healing or surgical abilities.
Usually this only occurs in Lightworkers who have this as
part of their divine purpose. We have also seen a lot of these
types of nervous system mutations in eight-level Lightbody,
as the nervous system is being required to handle a lot more
Lightbody impulses. If you find your hands or feet going to
sleep while you are using them, it is time to do an adjustment
in the brain.
The pineal gland emits tonal and electromagnetic frequencies
that help regulate the electrical pulses in the autonomic
nervous system, as well as the pulse of the spinal fluids in all
sorts of different rhythms in the body.
If for some reason the pulse coming from the pineal gland to
the base of the skull into the spine is disrupted in some way,
it will cause problems in the nervous system where you may
even lose your grip. You may have deep leg jerks as you are
trying to push backwards. This can be very uncomfortable.
If you put your finger in between your eyebrows, you're
pressing on what's called the Anja center, which is the center,
which connects to your pineal gland in your brain. Take your
hand and put your finger at the very base of your skull, in the
middle. Focus your attention inwards to the center of your
brain.
What you're going to notice if you are having this nervous
system problem is a band of Light, going from the center of
the brain to the brain stem, that looks like lightening or like
electricity. Start to breathe into it and slow that down until
it looks like a laser, bluish-white in color, and about the
thickness of a pencil. Once you have that smoothed out, you
begin to pulse the Light. Your spirit will adjust the pulses
to the rhythm that you need, and you will feel fully relaxed.
Usually takes a minute of so. (E3, Service One-on-One,
Mystical Articulation, Merkabah)
Changes in food habits: You may find you crave some very
strange food combinations. Your physical body may need
nutrients in different proportions that ever before. Remember,
it's changing at the cellular level. So, throw away your
rulebook on diet. Another common experience is feeling
hungry or unsatisfied no matter what you eat or in what
quantity. Your body is beginning to need Light as a nutrient.
First say the Invocation to Water over everything that you eat
of drink. Secondly, go outside and raise the palms of your
hands to the sun. Make a triangle with your fingers. Your
thumbs form the base and your index fingers from the apex;
you're making an energetic prism. Ask for the Light behind
your visible light spectrum. Feel it pour in through your
palms. After ten to twenty minutes, you'll feel full, like you
have had a good meal. (Heavenly Body, Ecstasy)
Sensory and perceptual Changes: As you progress in your
Lightbody, you go through many changes in how your
experience the world. Your senses become more acute and
open into the psy-hic gifts that lie behind them. Also, your
multidimensional perception opens up. Here are some
common symptoms: Excessive Sensory Input: Sometimes one or
all of your physical senses suddenly amplify. If this is
disturbing, focus on one sense and extend it, gently shutting
down all the others. This usually brings the senses back
into balance.
(Divine Expression, Magnificence, Gifts of the Holy Sp-rit)
Ungrounded or spacey: Ground multidimensional. Also, it's
helpful to focus your attention fully on your feet. Try to feel
the texture of what your feet are resting on. This brings you
more into your body. (Fire of Purpose, E3)

[John F. Winston]

Dear Folks: Here is a correct web site for this material.

http://communities.msn.com/Wunjo
John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Your Not Sick Your Just ------ Part 2 of 2. April 22, 2001.

This part mentions ringing in your ears or hearing sounds when no
one is calling you.

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Low-level anxiety, dizziness, and clumsiness: The brain is
opening in its perception across multi-parallels. The body is
beginning to sense that perhaps it could exist in more than
one reality at a time. If you find that focusing on your feet
isn't working, run a grounding cord from your Omega chakra
eight inches below your spine, up your spine, up into the
upper chakras, grounding into your vastness, into Sp-rit. Run
seven to twelve lines of Light downward from the point of the
Omega chakra, opening around your feet like a cone. You're
not grounding into the Earth. Your stabilizing yourself across
the parallel realities of the planetary hologram. To your
physical body, opening perception across parallels is like
being in a reality earthquake. Put yourself in a doorway and
hold on to the door jambs. Your body's instinctive response
will usually calm right down. This usually seems to help,
even in the worst cases.(Serenity, Mastery, Planetary Service,
Divine Mother, Divine Expression)
Objects appear to move, melt, or shimmer: This is a common
perception as you move into multidimensional sight. You
may be beginning to sense the atomic motion within every-
thing, parallel realities, energy flows in the room, or the
beginning of "far-seeing" clairvoyance. If this is unsettling
to you, remember that your physical body exists "NOW," in
this parallel of third, fourth dimensional reality, and you can
use it to re-center your consciousness. Simply extend any
physical sense, except your sight, and your body will bring
you fully back onto your usual reality. Also, focusing on
your feet, as in the previous paragraph, helps greatly.
(Mystical Articulation, Subatomic Tonic, Magical Visions,
Love Potion #9)
Hazy Vision: If you open your eyes after a deep meditation,
sometimes the room appears hazy. We have seen people
virtually blinded. This means that you are between physical
sigh and clairvoyant or multidimensional sight. Your vision
is neither here, nor there. To adjust it, try yawning. Yawning
is one way that people shift their bodes and consciousness
through different energy frequencies. You can consciously
yawn to shift levels of perceptivity. Close your eyes and
yawn with the intent to make your vision third dimensional
and bring it back here. Or close your eyes and yawn with the
intent to shift your sight into other psychic or dimensional
levels.
Your optic nerve is being required to handle a lot of impulses
that it has never had before. Blurry vision is very common,
especially in eight level Lightbody. If you find that you can't
find any comfortable distance where your eyes will focus, we
suggest that you NOT go out and get eyeglasses. Generally,
within a week's time you will be able to see again.
Your physical eyesight is very linked to the perceptions of
the mental body. As new perceptions are coming in through
your brain and though the spiritual body, it's very natural
that some of the physical sight turns off as the mental body
becomes less predominant. It will come back. It may take
a few months, but it will usually come back. (Mystical
Articulation, Subatomic Tonic, Magical Visions, Love Potion
#9)
Audio Dyslexia: Very common in eight-level Lightbody.
When you listen to someone speak and you can hear the
words, but your brain can't seem to make sense of them,
this is called audio dyslexia. Your brain functioning is
becoming nonlinear. The transition faculty from non-linear
to linear language may not be on line yet. There are levels
of Lightbody where it briefly seems like some people are
talking in a foreign language, but you know they are not.
This can be scary, because the mental body may send out
panic signals and fears about going crazy. You are
becoming very sensitive to people's energy.
On this planet, what most people say verbally is totally at
odds with what they say energetically. Most people don't
know that they are lying or not being genuine. You are
becoming so sensitive to someone's energy that you can no
longer decode their verbal lies. The audio dyslexia is a brief
stage while building Universal Mind translation facility and
the ability to sense truth in yourself or others. Take a breath,
laugh, and wait for further instructions. (Mystical
Articulation, Transpersonal Transformation)
Hearing beeps, tones, music or electronic "Morse code": It
may be tinnitus or it may be a Higher Light transmission.
We suggest that you relax and simply let the signal come
through. Don't worry about understanding it, the translation
comes over time. (Mystical Articulation, Surrender, Yod,
Gifts of the Holy Spirit)
Memory Loss: This is a natural part of Lightbody. As you
begin to live more and more in the now, you lose the ability
to reference the past. This could be an inability to recall
karmic patterning and relationships or simply to remember
what you had for breakfast. There are many people living
with the secret fear that maybe they're in the beginning stages
of Alzheimer's disease. A very few may actually have the
disease but the vast majority are simply living more Now.
This break with referencing to the past can be very freeing.
Clutching the past fosters the fear of change. You realize
how much of your energy is tied up with preserving the past.
Some people are also finding it very hard to project into the
future. This, too may be unsettling, because you may miss
appointments and such. The old world couldn't function
without dwelling in the past, projecting into the future, and
living by a clock, if not a stopwatch. In the new world that
is emerging, people will live by their Spirit, delighting in the
NOW. As you become fully, NOW, you literally become "in
the world, not of the world. You live in a separate world from
other beings. (Alignment, Mystical Articulation, Surrender,
Yod)
Spiritual significance, spiritual ambition, spiritual
manic-depression: Just about everyone goes through these
at some time in their Lightbody process, usually to deny or
run away from guilt, shame, survival patterns, and feelings of
separation held in the physical body. Spiritual significance
and spiritual ambition are ego defenses and unfortunately.
The person rarely knows (or admits) that they are running
them. (Mastery, Transpersonal Transformation, Alignment,
Planetary Service, Quantum Wealth, Surrender, Magical
Visions, Love Potion #9)
Blowing lightbulbs and fuzzing electronics: At many points
in this process you may find that you are buying an awful lot
of lightbulbs. You'll notice they tend to burn out of flicker
when you are next to them. Your television may ghost or
snow when you walk by it. Your speakers may static, when
you are near them. These little annoyances are caused by
changes in your electromagnetic body, your auric field. There
are several times in this process that the electromagnetic body
stretches. Sorry, there is nothing that you can do that we
know about except to align your energy with your objects.
You may be more sensitive to them than you have been
before. You may feel radar or electromagnetic waves; you
may also feel things coming off your TV set. Turn off the
object and try merging with it. (E3, Subatomic Tonic, Yod)
Invocation to Water I take this, the Water of Life, I declare
it the Water of Light. As I bring it within my body, It allows
my body to glow. I take this, the Water of Light, I declare it
the Water of G-d. I AM a Master in all that I AM.
Closing Our Lesson We invoke the Galactic Healers and
Healing Angels to balance the chakras and the 12-body
system. We request a golden cylinder of light to be anchored
around us drawing out all imbalanced energies and we ask to
be infused with the Christ/Buddha energies. Remain silent as
you receive this blessing for a few minutes.
Before you go to sleep at night ask the Masters to take you
to the Great Central Sun, or the ashram of your choice, for
healing and learning while you are sleeping. You can ask to
work on specific health lessons at this time, or ascended
master qualities you wish to bring forth. This can be a full
eight hours of spiritual growth and development.
Prayer of Thanksgiving Beloved Mother/Father Go-, we
thank you for this time together. We thank you for allowing
our group to celebrate the divinity of all life, to share in the
love of the heart of -od and the light/wisdom within the
mind of -o-. We thank you in assisting us in our ascension
process and granting us the love, wisdom and power to live a
life of service. In gratitude to you, Father/Mother Go-, both
within and without, we ask to merge our wills with thine own,
and thank you again for providing this precious time of
communion, acceleration and sharing. Amen * All of the
books that I use for this class from Joshua and Wistancia
Stone can be purchased directly from their website at:
www.drjoshuadavidstone.com
In The Name of ONE, Sandy
*\W/*x<;;_;;>x*\W/*x<;;_;;>x*\W/*x<;;_;;>x*\W/*x<<>>

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Dangers In The Harry Potter Books. April 23, 2001.

My teacher and Guru told me to stay away from Bl-ck Magic and that
Whi-e Magic was OK. It's all the same energy, one is for the good and
one is to hurt people. He also told me that there is such a thing
as Karma. This means that you reap whatsoever you sow. If you do
something bad to another person you then will receive back the square
of what you put out. As an example if you hit someone on the head
with a hammer 3 times then you will receive the act of being hit on
the head with a hammer 9 times. The hammer is just used as an example.
There is positive Karma also. Some people who are on the Path
receive what is called instant Karma. They do something wrong and
within just a few minutes something happens bad to them. So the
moral of this story is don't believe these teachers of B-ack
witchcraft when they say you can hurt someone else and not have to
suffer the consequences for it. It will get you now or in the next
life you live.

In the past I've posted something about the Harry Potter books and
people have just told me that they are harmless books but I don't
agree with them. Be careful of what you read.

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From: P
Subject: Harry Potter Books - Satanism, Witchcraft
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Subject: Harry Potter commentary
The following is an email sent for the American Family Association.
Please pass on to all Ch-istians.
This is a quote from 6 year old Jessica Lehman of Easley, SC, after
reading the HARRY POTTER BOOKS: "J--us died because He was weak and
stupid"
The Harry Potter books are the #1 selling children's books in the
nation today.
Go to Amazon.com and read the reviews. Hear the touting by educators
and even Chri-tian teachers about how "It's great to see the youth so
eagerly embracing the reading experience!"
Harry Potter is the creation of a former UK English teacher, J. K.
Rowling, who promotes Witchcraft and Satanism. Harry is a 13-year-old
'wizard.' Her creation openly blasphemes Jes-- and G-d and promotes
sorcery, seeking revenge upon anyone who upsets them by giving you
examples (even the sources with authors and titles) of spells,
rituals, and demonic powers.
Parents have not reviewed the material. The name seems harmless
enough...Let me give you a few quotes from some of the influenced
readers themselves:
"The Harry Potter books are cool, 'cause they teach you all about
magic and how you can use it to control people and get revenge on
your enemies," said Hartland, WI, 10 year old Craig Nowell, a recent
convert to the New Satanic Order Of The Bla-k Circle. "I want to
learn the Cruciatus Curse, to make my muggle science teacher suffer
for giving me a D." (A 'muggle' is an unbeliever of magic.)
Or how about the REALLY young and innocent impressionable mind of
a 6 year old when asked about her favorite character:
"Hermione is my favorite, because she's smart and has a kitty,"
said 6 year old Jessica Lehman of Easley, SC. "Je--s died because
was weak and stupid."
Ashley, a 9 year old, the typical average age reader of Harry
Potter: "I used to believe in what they taught us at Sunday School,"
said Ashley, conjuring up an ancient spell to summon Cerebus, the
three-headed hound of h--l. "But the Harry Potter books showed me
that magic is real, something I can learn and use right now, and
that the B-ble is nothing but Boring lies."
Quote from High Priest of Satanism: "Harry is an absolute go-send
to our cause," said High Priest Egan of the First Church Of Satan
in Salem, MA, an organization like ours thrives on new blood no
pun intended and we've had more applicants than we can handle
lately. And, of course, practically all of them are virgins, which
is gravy."
Since 1995, open applicants to Satan worship has increased from
around 100,000 to now...20 MILLION children and young adults!
I think I can offer you an explanation of why this is happening.
Children have been bombarded with action, adventure, thrills and
scares to the point Hollywood can produce nothing new to give them
the next 'high.' Parents have neglected to see what their children
are reading and doing, and simply seem satisfied that 'Little Johnny
is interested in reading.' AND... educators and the NEA are PUSHING
this with NO WARNING as to the effects or the contents.
A quote from the author herself, J. K. Rowling, describing the
objections of Ch-istian reviewers to her writings: "I think it's
absolute rubbish to protest children's books on the grounds that
they are luring children to Satan,"
Rowling told a London Times reporter in a July 17 interview.
"People should be praising them for that! These books guide
children to an understanding that the weak, idiotic Son Of -od is
a living hoax who will be humiliated when the rain of fire comes
....while we, his faithful servants, laugh and cavort in victory."
This author has now published FOUR BOOKS in less than 2 years
of this encyclopedia of Satanism' and is surely going to write
more. Chr-stians, please pray for this woman's soul. Pray also for
the Holy S-irit to work in the young minds of those who are reading
this garbage that they may be delivered from its harm. Lastly, pray
for all parents to grow closer to their children, and that a bond of
sharing thoughts and spiritual intimacy will grow between them.
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JW I know that my writing about this will probably cause some people
to go out and purchase the Harry Potter Books but maybe they will
check them out after this warning and find the danger that is in
them.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

[Phred]

They say it doesn't exist, but I've seen it. The aliens done took me there
personally while they were staying there. They had actually turned the
hanger into a Howard Johnsons....the food was decent, but they never could
keep the bathroom clean....the aliens kept taking the cows in there to cut
out their entrails. While they were there they let the Air Force trick up
their saucers....nobody on their planet ever learned how to do a decent
"tuck and roll" upholstery job on the pilot's recliner. They wouldn't let
them put fuzzy dice on the rearview monitor though...said it was bad luck
and that the only good roll of the dice is snake-eyes...anything else and
they vaporise you. They do like the orange flames we painted along the hull
of the saucer though even though we painted them on wrong and made it look
like they were flying backwards but they said that was just fine as it would
confuse the jets trying to shoot them down. They also said they were tired
of all being bald and asked if we could give them the recipe for Rogaine.

I've been told this never really happened but I don't believe them. They're
just jealous and want to visit Alpha Centauri like I have but you can't ask
them because they'll cut out your entrails if you do. Just don't get them
mad...they dress up like the kid at the Taco Chihuahua drive up window and
you'll NEVER know if it's one of 'them'.

Alex Trebec

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[The Larch]

"John F. Winston" <john...@mlode.com> wrote in message
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> Hey John,
Ever hear of a publication called "the Onion"? check it out sometime
at www.theonion.com...very enlightening,,,,dumbass.

[xxbyte]

I must protest over this message on a number of points.

1) Witchcraft and Satanism are two totally different belief systems.
Witchcraft or Wicca worships the old pagan God/dess deities.

2) Karma is better understood as the results of an action.

3) Fantasy books and role playing games have always been around in one form
or another for a long time and to my knowledge have never lead the average
person to invoke deamons.

4) How can you base anything on what a few 6 year olds say? I know a number
of children who have read Potter's books with no ill effect.

Over all I think this is just plain silly.

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[headkase]

snipped all of it..

> John Winston. john...@mlode.com
>
>

fuck off troll

[John F. Winston]

Subject: How To Get Rid Of Negative Energies. April 23, 2001.

A person on the Internet asked me to look up something on a Web
Site about "How to get rid of negative energies in the body". Here
is the results of that search.

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Getting http://members.yournet.com/jobrien/HEAL.html

ENERGY TEMPLATE CONNECTION

FILTERING NEGATIVE ENERGIES OUT OF THE SYSTEM

REMOVING 'HOOKS'

HEALING TECHNIQUES USING OPPOSITE ENERGIES
GENERAL PURPOSE HEALING TECHNIQUE
GALAXY BEING HEALING PACKAGE
HEALING TECHNIQUES
Note: The GENERAL PURPOSE HEALING TECHNIQUE and the GALAXY
BEING
HEALING PACKAGE at the end of this file makes available for use all
the other techniques listed plus possibly several others which our
conscious mind is not aware of. They are the simplest to follow and
produce possibly the best results. Therefore it is suggested that
these be implemented first, and only if they do not seem to produce
noticeable results within a reasonable time period should others be
tried.

GETTING ANSWERS

Our Higher Self (the Soul) knows all the answers. It knows the cause
of the malady and is using the malady, sometimes latching on to one
that "is going around", to attract our attention to a sp-ritual or
emotional problem which is the underlying cause. Our conscious mind is
too busy to listen, but the subconscious mind isn't. So we need to use
a method of communication to get answers from it. This is where
dowsing comes into the picture. Dowsing is associated with finding an
underground water source. The typical dowser cuts a green forked
branch from a live tree, holds one of the forked end in each hand,
bends the forks outward and swings the other end up in the air.
When he walks over a water source, the branch swings downward. The
reason the fork reacts to water is because it contains water. A dowser
can tie a silver coin on the end of the dowser and dowse for silver.
He can even imagine there is a silver coin tied to the end, then the
dowser works almost as well. Our imagination is marvelously creative
and powerful. This takes a lot of practice, and some don't have that
much of the right type of energy to get good results using this
method.
So we use a pendulum to start with. A small weight dangling on the
end of a six-inch free length string does just fine. A silver object,
a ring or coin seems to work best. Dangle the pendulum from a finger
and thumb of your dominant hand and "will" the pendulum to move
forward and backwards. Give a little nudge to start with and when you
notice the pendulum continuing to swing or even gain momentum, stop
it and try again without any nudge. Tell the string (your subconscious
mind) that this is a "yes" answer.
When you are sure the pendulum starts up and continues to swing on
its own, stop it and "will" it to start swinging left and right, with
a little nudge to start with. When you are sure the pendulum can
start up and swing left and right, tell the string this is a "no"
answer.
Do the same to cause the string to swing diagonally. When you are
satisfied it is moving on its own, define this motion as indicating
"This is not a yes-no question, stupid!" or "ready for the next
question".
Then start asking it questions you know the answers to. When you
are satisfied you are getting the right answers, have a friend to
think up yes-no questions they know the answers to, and see if you
can get the right answer without being told ahead of time. Now we are
ready for the next step.
Ang method can be used for getting answers to other "yes" "no"
questions. The answers may come from your Higher Self, spirit guides,
angels, even G-d Himself if you are not paying attention to His giving
you "gut feelings" to follow. But there are also negative entities who
just love to confuse and misdirect. So first you should declare that
only "those in the light" may communicate through your dowser. This is
your inner world, and you have ultimate say on whom you allow to
communicate with you. Using your dowsing method can determine which
and how much of a given food is good for you, find a dietary
deficiency, determine if you have a malady you are not aware of and
where it is, by laying a hand on different parts of the body while
holding the pendulum in the other. Then use a finger to narrow down
the exact location of the problem. You can also determine how much
sleep you need or do your plants need watering or fertilizer. You
can also use your string pendulum to locate a missing object. First
use the "yes-no' answer to determine the room in which it is located.
Then use the direction of swing as one direction line, move to another
location to determine another direction line. Where these imaginary
lines cross is where the object is located. You can also dowse over
a map to locate a missing person by dividing the map into four
quadrants, then dowse over each quadrant until you receive a "Yes".
Then divide this quadrant into four smaller quadrants and repeat the
process. Finally use the swing direction line of the pendulum in in
two positions, and where these two lines cross is where the missing
person is. The list is endless. In using the dowsing method, it is
always good to ask "Can I, May I, and Should I" before proceeding. For
instance, maybe the missing person does not want to be found. It takes
practice to not influence the dowser with our preconceived answers.

THE INVISIBLE PENDULUM

Dangling a pendulum over a group of watermelons to find a properly
ripe one can draw a crowd. (A friend of mine dowsed for the ripest
melon and found his selection to be over-ripe. Right answer, wrong
question.) So I have "trained" my fists to act as answering devices.
An unconscious squeeze of my right fist = "yes". A left fist
squeeze = "no". No squeeze or both fists squeezing at once indicates
you need to ask a simpler question. You can get answers with your
hands in your pockets or hanging at your sides, and nobody will
suspect a thing. A local doctor into holistic medicine uses a
variation of this to get answers while examining a patient. Also see
if you can "feel" the right answer and then confirm it with your
dowser.
Connecting one's Higher Self with our conscious mind is a great
asset. Sometimes the right question will pop up in my mind, helping
aim me in the right direction for the information I am actually
seeking. Depending solely on the dowser blocks the development of
this connection.

FINDING THE CAUSE

In my world, there are no coincidences. Even accidents are caused
by our negative thoughts or fears.
What we fear, we attract. However, negative thoughts directed at
us from others (jealousy, hate, etc.) can also have a negative
influence if we permit it. Give your Deity or sp-ritual guides
permission to constantly shield you from these and direct them
elsewhere. And be sure our information source is "in the light",
since dark thought forms can give us wrong answers.

[xxbyte]

Gee I didn't think that trying to voice my opinion in a reasonable manner
made me a troll!

[Jimmy Snibbler]

xxbyte <xxb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Gee I didn't think that trying to voice my opinion in a reasonable manner
> made me a troll!

Using the word 'Gee' makes you a troll, thimbleton.

[Joe Cosby]

"xxbyte" <xxb...@yahoo.com> hunched over a computer, typing
feverishly;
thunder crashed, "xxbyte" <xxb...@yahoo.com> laughed madly, then
wrote:

>Gee I didn't think that trying to voice my opinion in a reasonable manner
>made me a troll!
>

what are you, some kind of fucking troll?

It pisses me off that CUNTS like you need to wander around PICKING
FIGHTS like this.

Shut up. Go away.

>> snipped all of it..
>>
>> > John Winston. john...@mlode.com
>> >
>> >
>>
>> fuck off troll
>>
>>
>
>

--
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http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com

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[xxbyte]

With responses like these to my simple comments really makes one wonder who
the real troll is. It might me more productive if people addressed the
points I raised instead of name calling.

Joe Cosby <joec...@SPAMBLOCKmindspring.com> wrote in message
news:3ae776c5...@news.mindspring.com...

[Joe Cosby]

"xxbyte" <xxb...@yahoo.com> hunched over a computer, typing
feverishly;
thunder crashed, "xxbyte" <xxb...@yahoo.com> laughed madly, then
wrote:

>With responses like these to my simple comments really makes one wonder who
>the real troll is.

It's kind of an intriguing thought. If simple comments which are
-not- trolls cause an anti-troll troll, who -is- the real troll?
Perhaps it's a meta-troll we can't see, a gathering of troll forces
converging in some dynamic pattern beyond our comprehension.

>It might me more productive if people addressed the
>points I raised instead of name calling.
>

Good point. It might very well be.

Or maybe not. Fuckface.

--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com

When a cat is dropped, it always lands on its feet, and when toast is dropped,
it always lands with the buttered side down. I propose to strap buttered toast
to the back of a cat; the 2 will hover, inches above the ground. With a giant
buttered-cat array, a high-speed monorail could easily link New York with
Chicago.
-- John Frazee

[Arbane the Terrible]

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:43:11 +1000, "headkase" <wogg...@bigpond.com>
wrote:

>fuck off troll

He's not a troll, he's a kook. In fact, John F Winston is practically
_the_ kook, to judge from the number of crackpot theories he's
promagulated.

Remember, the plural of 'moron' is 'focus group'.
-- James A. Wolf

[DrPostman]

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:43:11 +1000, "headkase" <wogg...@bigpond.com>
wrote:

>snipped all of it..

>
>> John Winston. john...@mlode.com
>>
>>
>
>fuck off troll
>

John is definitely not a troll. John is a net legend.
Almost as legendary as Yogi the Psychic Wonder
Dog!

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Rule 1: Don't tell people everything you know."
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[John F. Winston]

Now to comment on something.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, DrPostman wrote:

> John is definitely not a troll. John is a net legend.
> Almost as legendary as Yogi the Psychic Wonder
> Dog!

JW Well, maybe not that legendary.

[John F. Winston]

Subject: Dust From The Gobi. April 27, 2001.

I was watching the weather report on the news on about April 20,
2001 and it mentioned that the dust we were having in the air over
Sonora, Calif. was coming all the way from the Gobi desert.
Here is some information that is on the subjects of water beings
and the dust that is coming from the Gobi. It is channeled material
so please be so kind as not to read it if you hate this type
information.

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From: T
Subject: Lady Kadjina Apr. 22, 2001

Wayne: A reader is interested in the history of water beings on Earth.
She notes that, according to Robert Temple in his book "The Sirius
Mystery" (1988), amphibian beings, half-humanoid and half-fish, who
lived in water, have been credited with the founding and origins of
many civilizations on Earth. Aquatic Beings have been credited as
responsible for teaching and assisting humans in areas such as
agriculture, mathematics, music and cosmology. Also, The Sumerians
had a tradition of water deities, the main character being the
water-G-d called ENKI; the Babylonians also had the tradition of a
fish-Go- called EA, all of which lived in water. Many other
traditions such as the Syrians, Greeks, Chinese and Egyptians also
had these types of water deities, called by different names. The
existence of these water-beings is still evident today in Babylonian
seals, Syrian and Phoenician coins, in temples, in sculptures, in
vases, etc. I wish to ask you to please enquire with Lady Kadjina
about this issue: By Sitchin's account this Ea and Enki did not sound
either like water beings nor too friendly to humans. Besides, they
came from Nibiru. While for the ancient civilizations mentioned
above, these water-beings were the givers of fundamental principles
and the founders of their civilizations; besides, Robert Temple makes
the connection between these older civilizations and the Dogon Tribe
in Mali, which claim that these water-beings come from Sirius.
I find these two versions create a serious discrepancy, in the use
of the same names, as well as, in totally different contexts.
Personally, I find the physical evidence and historical accounts
summarized by Temple more credible. I do not resonate to the Nibiru
story...don't know why...some aspects I feel are real, some I don't...
Could you please be kind enough to raise this issue with Lady
Kadjina?

Good morning. This is Lady Kadjina. There have always been, and
there still are, water beings. The dolphins are the only fully
incarnate and fully sentient water beings left in physical
manifestation on EArth at this time. These magnificent beings are
able to communicate with humans in this time and they are very
powerful guardians of very ancient information and energies. There
is a being called Chiron who is part man and part horse and he is a
very real being, even now, who lives primarily in the world of spi-it
but is very much involved in the activities of humans, especially in
the form of energetics in the world of science that you know as
astrology.
There have been mermaids who were able to function on land and in
the water and who also communicated with the humans. Many of the
fairy kingdom are able to live in the air, in the earth and in the
water. Today the great devas influence many things in the water,
the mountains, and in the oceans.
We want to say here that there are members of the Mar-ek (JW I
would like to say that I didn't block out that letter. It came
that way.) team, of which I am a member, who work very closely with
Sitchin and we have a great respect for his work. We recommend to
our students that they study his works very carefully, in conjunction
with the work that we call the Emerald Tablets. And along with these
two, to study the work of Jose Arguelles. Where the Annunaki are
concerned, there were many groups of them and they remained with the
Earth over a great distance of time. Many of these were very
benevolent to humans. But other groups fell from grace, so to say.
And they were not very kind to humans. You can look at the Atlanteans
in the same way. There are many Atlanteans of very high standards,
but then there were those who became corrupted and fell from grace.
This is a time of the return of the Atlanteans, and this group had
conflicts with the darkern energies of the Annunaki. Then again you
have Orion and while there are many great enlightened beings from
Orion, there is also a very dark sector of Orion that has played
havoc with the Earth. What we are saying here is that there are the
two forms of light expressing through many planets and through many
beings. All of these planets and beings have done some great works
and given good information and they also at times have created havoc.
It is difficult to give information concerning history when there are
so many humans looking at the history from so many different
perspectives. It is imperative at this time to always look at the
bigger picture. Ea and Enki are two energies that also expressed
through Earth, which has a consciousness of duality. When they first
came to Earth and influenced the aquatic life forms, it was to a time
that would be considered a Golden Era; it was not a time of conflict.
It was a time that allowed for play and playful experiments with the
life forms. At this time many energetic beings came into the Earth
en masse. They would enter into the life forms of plants, animals,
earth, water, and cloud formations because they wanted to know and
understand the consciousness of these forms.
As time went on, they inter-married, so to speak, and propagated
between many different forms, so that you had consciousness in trees,
for example, and the trees could greet other approaching life forms
and communicate with them. There are many of the ancient trees
that can still do this. Today the clouds themselves are becoming
more sentient. They have the ability to hear the human when they
speak, and to respond. If a human needs rain and speaks to the
clouds, and the clouds give the rain, and the human in turn gets
very excited and dances in the rain and blows kisses to the clouds.
These clouds then respond and become very excited also, and they
begin to watch and look for their earth friends, the humans, to see
if there is a way to make that human happy again. Many forms of
life are becoming sentient and fully conscious once again so that
all forms of life begin to communicate with one another again.
As time went on and many forms of energy entered into the Earth,
and these energies began to squabble amongst themselves, Ea and Enki
had their hands full trying to maintain stability. There was a
convocation of great energetic beings who came together and laid
down new laws for Planet Earth.
No more would different species be allowed to breed, for those
that were cross-bred were being abused. It was also decreed that
Planet Earth and her life forms were to function in the full
manifestations of the dual energies of light. And so came forth
Lucifer and Satan. These are both great beings of light who came,
but they agreed to become the standard-bearers for a fully split
dual energy of light. It has been exceeding difficult for them
to hold the dark energy, a dark mirror of reflection and watch
humanity and all of the other life forms struggle within the
enshrouding presence of so much darkness. Just recently these two
great beings have set aside the dark mirror and have reclaimed their
positions of fully lighted beings. They did not fall from grace;
humanity needed someone to blame, and rather than accept
self-responsibility, it was easier to point the finger elsewhere.

[John F. Winston]

Part 2 of 2.

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Wayne: Specifically, what is the relationship between Ea and Enki
with the planet Sirius, and did they come here as water beings?

Ea and Enki did not come forth from Sirius per se, but rather
they used the energies from Sirius. They visited Sirius; they knew
many beings from this star system, and they did indeed work with
water beings and many different forms of water beings, and this
was their very earliest expression upon the Earth, before the
splitting of the light. It would help if you could understand that
Ea and Enki spent many millennia on many different planets. Sirius
and Nibiru were but two of them. Those of Nibiru came in with a
particular agenda, as did those from the star Sirius. Ea and Enki
were involved with beings from both of these places, but at different
times. In other words, Ea and Enki modified their agenda in
response to the changes within humanity and the changes within the
many life forms. And they also were required to respond to the
edicts of the Councils that convened who mandated the splitting of
the light.
I would interject at this point that Kay is struggling greatly
within herself. She has no understanding at all of history or of
the things that we are trying to bring through. She is a being
who avoids conflicting issues at all costs and this type of
discussion is very difficult for her.
But the benefits for her personal growth will be very great in
being willing to attempt to do this particular work. Of herself
there is no way that she could address the questions brought up
by readers. One reader has stated that modern man is the direct
result of the procreation from one feminine energy. The reader did
not agree with what we had said. So it is taking great courage on
Kay's part to be willing to keep moving forward. So, we shall
return to the topic under discussion the best we can.

Wayne: Most of today's scientific understanding is that human life
evolved from aquatic life as the cells responded to changing
environmental conditions over millions of years. This understanding
generally describes only the physical evolution and does not include
the possibility of "outside" sp-ritual energies or beings that may
have had an even more primary influence. It therefore seems possible
that beings such as Ea and Enki had a direct influence over aquatic
life and those humans who at one time were more attuned to the
spir-tual side of life may have seen these beings as influential over
the founding and development of civilization. It this essentially
correct?

Those in the field of science believe that humans evolved from
aquatic life forms. This is partly true; there is a segment of
humanity that did evolve in this way, but not all of humanity. Ea
and Enki were very influential in the energetics of aquatic beings
who were able to communicate with humans and also with star beings
who came to Earth, as well as beings who worked with the energies
of the great temples in relationship to grid systems and ley lines.
But we would say that this was not the only activity that Ea and
Enki were involved in.

Wayne: I have "seen" images and therefore have an understanding that
dolphins communicate using principles of holography, forming
comprehensive patterns of information and projecting them such that
some humans can read them in the holographic form and translate them
into human concepts and language. Is this essentially correct?

This is a very interesting concept and fits in well with our
message this morning. Dolphins do project information
holographically. In a holograph all information is expressed in all
places at the same time. And the humans will then tap into that
part of the holograph that fits in with the information that they are
requesting. It also kind of fits with the concept of the eye of the
grasshopper, which is multi-faceted. The total eye contains all of
the vision of the grasshopper, but a facet contains a particular
focus of information. And within the all-seeing eye of the cosmos,
there is the great holograph. Sitchin has spoken on a particular
facet and Temple is focusing on another aspect of the same truth.
Ea and Enki have expressed within both forms. They have known both
those from Sirius and those of the Annunaki. They have utilized both
formats at different time frames in the course of human history.

Wayne: The weather report for Tucson on 4/20/01 indicated that our
unusually hazy skies are the result of strong winds blowing in dust
from the Gobi Desert. When I heard this, I immediately made a mental
connection between the etheric cities in the Gobi Desert and the
Arizona-New Mexico Desert, where there are supposedly also evidence of
underground civilizations and that there was some energetic connection
that was being played out in the physical world that tied the dusts
of the two deserts together. Is this essentially a correct
interpretation of recent events?

Absolutely. We refer you to some of our early discussions concerning
the St. Louis floods and the commingling of the waters and the ways
in which certain systems were reactivated. This is the same type of
thing that is happening now. You understand that within your physical
self you have cells that contain memories and you reactivate those
cellular memories and you heal discordant memories and you utilize
the memories that were expressions of your highest self in other
lifetimes. You bring it forward and use it.
Shamballa is a great etheric city over the Gobi. It is a focal
point of many activities. So the great winds were created for
two purposes: to uncover things that are buried and also to disperse
the sands that contain cellular structures that have within them
memories.
These dust particles also commingled with the energetics of the
City of Angels, picking up energy from that source and then
focusing in the Tucson area and commingling with the energies in
this place. And this serves as a great reactivation. Third
dimensionally it appears as a problem, but fourth and fifth
dimensionally, it is a great blessing. Those caught up in the
great floods of St. Louis viewed the activity as catastrophic, but
from an etheric standpoint it was also a great blessing.
One of the interesting things about blowing sand--and this is a
metaphor is that it can be compared to the action of sandpaper. It
is abrasive in nature. Have you ever worked with a piece of wood
that was rough and tried to put lacquer on it? It was not a
beautiful finish. You must first use the abrasive energy of
sandpaper to smooth out the rough spots. The blowing sand gathered
unto itself many particles of various types of denser energies and
deposited them in the desert of Tucson. Tucson has a soil that is
very porous and so, when the rains come, the denser energy can
enter into the earth herself. There is also a direct link vortex
in the Tucson area to the core center of Earth and to the activities
of the great blue-wh-te cross, so that these denser energies can
be quickly transmuted.
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[John F. Winston]

Subject: Alien Spacecraft Crash In Germany In 1982. April 28, 2001.

During the first part of this I'll put it down from my memory of the
program and then later I will quote from a cassette that I was using
in my radio while listening to the program. I started recording it
a little after the interview actually started.

.....

On about April 26th 2001 I was listening to the Art Bell radio show
and a person called in who used to be in the US Army military service.

He gave his name and stated that he was presently employed for a
certain establishment and was in the process of moving some bass fish
from one area to the other so he would actually be easy to locate.
During the course of his conversation it was stated that he was
stationed in Germany in about late Sept. 1982. During this time there
was heard a sound of something crashing.
The object turned out to be an alien spacecraft that was a sort of
triangular shaped with one side elongated so that it was about 40 feet
long. The craft had sheared off two large trees causing a rip in the
side of the craft. The ship had crashed into the ground and was
partially sticking into the ground. Some small aliens that looked like
the classical Grays had come out of the craft, walked a few feet from
the ship and had died.
The man was brought into the area. His job was to dig out the front
end of the craft and attach a sort of sling so that the craft could be
pulled out of the ground. He noticed that when he would, by accident,
hit the side of the craft with his shovel, it would cause a scratch
to appear but as he brought his shovel back down the scratch would
disappear and it couldn't be seen any more.
The large rip in the side of the craft was apparently too big for
the craft to repair itself.
There were no German people at the crash site but there were some
gov-rnment type people who were directing the operation.
(JW When he calls them Grays, that means that they are small,
about 3 feet 6 inches up to 4 feet 5 inches approximately. They have
large heads, small bodies and long arms. They have large almond shaped
eyes and usually grey skin.)

(JW Now I'll go directly to the recording of the show. I will not
attempt to correct any grammatical mistakes that the person being
interviewed made but put it down exactly as he stated it.)

....

Serviceman: I was able to look up inside this, with the tubes out.
(JW Through the hole he could look up into the ship.)
Art: So you could barely see inside the ship.
S: Yes but by what I could see it was really huge.
A: Any details you could make out at all. Was it just a giant empty
room?
S: No. It wasn't empty. Some kind of machinery was in there. I
am lost for my vocabulary. No grinding gears or anything like that.
It just looked like just an engine room, with a face on it. What I'm
talking about with a face on it, it had a bulkhead on it. On the edge
of the bulkhead there was this machinery. It was like I have never
seen nothing like this before. It didn't resemble a 454 chevy.
(laughter). I try to keep my sense of humor.
A: Yes please do. You therefore was able to lift this thing all the
way out. Then you could see clearly it's exact shape.
S: Exactly. Because while we were out there, they had guys with
brooms on top of this thing trying to dig off the dirt.
A: The shape of the craft when you had it up and you were going
to put it on the flat bead, you would again describe it as triangular?
S: A triangle with rounded edges. It was an oval triangle. If you
took some silly putty and rolled it up and then stretched it out
what would you have, you'd have an oval triangle.
It was, I'd say 10 feet tall, at it's tallest point and it narrowed
down to it lowest at the nose to about 6 feet tall.
It was metal like stainless steel, it was shinny and there were no
burnt parts on it. That's my word Art. There was not a single
scratch on this thing, except for the gash on the side where the
tubes were coming out.
A: So there must have been some debris then.
S: Yes, there for about the last 80 to 50 yards or so, there was
debris from the first or second tree. That why I'm assuming the gash
happened because of the trees because, if you know anything about the
Furr trees they stand like an Oak.
A: What happened to the smaller pieces of metal?
S: That's when the troops were out there picking them up. They were
doing police call. One of the, can I call them Go-ernment Gurus?
A: If you wish.
S: One of the Gov-rnment Gurus was out there instructing them to
pick up every little piece no matter how minute, how many little
pieces and they had little trash bags to put them in. They had about
20 people picking up things.