The Democratic Convention! (Freaks n Geeks)
Cap'n_TrVth
Los Angeles, I'm here to report on the Democratic Convention.
There appears to be some sort of tribal booty-shaking thing
going on, but not much else as the Convention Hall is mostly
empty. By the acrid smell of the stale urine that prevails
throughout the Staples Center, it's apparent that the majority
of the crowd inside the hall at this time came for the free Malt
Liquor.
Everywhere there are signs, "A vote for Algore is a 40oz in the
fridge" "VOTE DEMOCRAT "you'll never have to work another day
again for the rest of your lives"
One popular placard being seen here at the convention reads:
"Vote Democrat, we'll tap into the pockets of the people who
work hard for a living and force them to pay for our wastrel
lifestyles and our food and rent and other stuff!!"
Tonights line-up of scheduled entertainers will be Queen Latifa
and Old Dirty Bastard, as Masters of Ceremonies also onhand will
be the typical cadre of welfare Mommies and the Icons of the
welfare jetset Roseanne Barr-Epstien and the recent Democratic
Poster Child Robert Downey Jr. who will read from his Prison
Memoirs.
Ted Kennedy and Marion Barry will be singing a few rounds of
Irish drinking songs with a rap style twist.
Al Gore is scheduled to give a demonstration of how he learned
to hypntize a chicken as youngster. No word on wether a child
was actually going to be used.
There was a brief scuffle here at the Staples center earlier
today when Maxine Waters attacked Carol Pinsky. Order was
returned after some minor hair-pulling thanks to the security
provided by the folks from the Jerry Springer show.
It's quite the freakshow here at the Staples Center folks, I'm
Cap'n TrVth signing off for now...
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SMITH29
xxx
Find out what the skinny is on the free health care for kids. I hope
they don't expect us to pay for it. Course maby the DNC has the funds
for it.
29
Clave
news:39987FFA...@home.com...
<...>
> Find out what the skinny is on the free health care for kids. I hope
> they don't expect us to pay for it. Course maby the DNC has the funds
> for it.
Yeah, Lord knows we could never take any from your precious DOD to pay for
it.
Jim
SMITH29
xxx
I'm glad you are finally coming to your senses.
They want to make the B-52 fly till it's 80 years old. Does that make
any sense to you?
It's retirement date is 2040. And don't say we don't need it any more
because that is not true and we have no replacement for it. A stealth
fleet would be too costly.
We are going to have to buy some new planes.
29
Cap'n_TrVth
I noticed when Melissa Etheridge was sing the Lesbian National
Anthem the camera was pannng a sea of middle-aged butch-cut
graying bull-dykes each with a little gray wisp of moustache or
nanny-goat beard. utterly revolting. I wanted to start puking
from my spot in the press box.
We should give thanks to Mr. Clinton as the Democratic Political
machine gets rolling. . . . .
I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "Thank me, I voted for
Clinton-Gore." So, I sat down and reflected on that and I am
sending my "Thank you" for what you have done,.....
specifically:
1. Thank you for introducing us to Jennifer Flowers, Paula
Jones, Monica Lewinsky, Dolly Kyle Browning, Kathleen Willey,
and Juanita Broaddrick. Are there any others that we should know
about?
2. Thank you for teaching my 8-year-old about oral sex. I had
really planned to wait until he was about 10 or so to discuss it
with them, but now he knows more about it than I did as a senior
in HighSchool.
3. Thank you for showing us that sexual harassment in the work
place (especially the White House) and on the job is OK, and all
you have to know is what the meaning of "IS" is. It really is
great to know that certain sexual acts are not sex and one person
may have sex while the other one involved does NOT.
4. Thank you for reintroducing the concept of impeachment to a
new generation and demonstrating that the ridiculous plot of the
movie, "Wag The Dog," could be plausible after all.
5. Thanks for making Jimmy Carter look competent, Gerald Ford
look graceful, Richard Nixon look honest, and Lyndon Johnson
look truthful.
6. Thank you for the 72 House and Senate witnesses who have
pleaded the 5th Amendment and 17 witnesses who have fled the
country to avoid testifying about Democrat campaign fund raising.
7. Thank you for the 19 charges, 8 convictions, and 4
imprisonment's from the Whitewater "mess" and the 55 criminal
charges and 32 criminal convictions (so far) in the
other "Clinton scandals."
8. Thanks also for reducing our military by half, "gutting" much
of our foreign policy, and flying all over the world on
"vacations" carefully disguised as necessary trips.
Also, please give my regards to Hillary, when/if you see her.
Tell her I'm working on a "Thank You" letter for her.
Looking forward to January 2001,
Cap'n Fucking TrVth....
Cap'n_TrVth
got *planes*
>> to buy!!!
>>
>> GWB's the candidate for you, all right.
>>
>> Jim
>xxxx
>You pay for your own kids health care. Don't expect me to.
*THAT* is the
>message.
>Pure and simple even for you to comprehend.
>29<G>
>
This will never happen because Clave doesn't grasp the concept
of self-reliance, he only understands that he likes the idea of
taking away from the haves, to give to the have-nots.
Just wait till Clam starts making more than a 100k a year and
watch how fast his fucked up political sensibilities change.
Cap'n_TrVth
>> >
>> > <...>
>> >
>> > > Find out what the skinny is on the free health care for
kids. I hope
>> > > they don't expect us to pay for it. Course maby the DNC
has the funds
>> > > for it.
>> >
>> > Yeah, Lord knows we could never take any from your precious
DOD to pay for
>> > it.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> xxx
>> I'm glad you are finally coming to your senses.
>> They want to make the B-52 fly till it's 80 years old. Does
that make
>> any sense to you?
>> It's retirement date is 2040. And don't say we don't need it
any more
>> because that is not true and we have no replacement for it. A
stealth
>> fleet would be too costly.
>> We are going to have to buy some new planes.
>
>Smitty, it doesn't take any sort of real achievement to make a
bomber
>capable of what the B52 is capable of.
>
>If needed, and I doubt they are, replacements for the Buff
could be made
>from almost any type of jet airliner currently flying.
>
>Reroute some fuel lines, add ground radar, aerial fueling
points, any
>number of other types of avionics, and some bomb bay doors,
whala you
>have an up to date, fuel efficient bomber that would match a B-
52,
>probably at a fraction of the cost to operate.
>
>The B52 is probably still flying, because it is such an
expensive
>aircraft to operate, it makes many companies rich, and ensures
a steady
>flow of cash to the AF.
>
>Even if I am wrong, why do you disregard what defense experts
like the
>Joint Chiefs of Staff say is necessary or unnecessary, in favor
of arm
>chair soldier tripe?
Wow brilliant post dumb-ass... I love how you share the
ruminations of your idiot-mind. it's better than a geek-show.
I should have known you used to be a Senior Editor for Janes
Information Group.
The Commentator
AB wrote:
>
>
>
> She's gonna make a great Senator.
>
> --
>
HilLIARy is trying to bed Barbara Bouncer?
Cap'n_TrVth
>>
>> SMITH29 wrote:
>> >
>> > > Yeah!!! *Fuck* the kids
>> > >
>> > >
>> xxxxx
>> Why is it that you socialists use such foul language?
>> Just curious.
>
>
>Ask JT. He's the foul language expert round these parts.
>
>Jim
<BIG Ricky Ricardo LAUGH>
Clave as the indignant Puritan, miffed at my foul language!
ROAR!!!! SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEYYYYYYYYY!!!!
Cap'n_TrVth
>Cap'n_TrVth <jtNOj...@untool.net.invalid> wrote:
>>We should give thanks to Mr. Clinton as the Democratic
Political
>>machine gets rolling. . . . .
>>
>>I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "Thank me, I voted
for
>>Clinton-Gore." So, I sat down and reflected on that and I am
>>sending my "Thank you" for what you have done,.....
>>specifically:
>>
>>1. Thank you for introducing us to Jennifer Flowers, Paula
>>Jones, Monica Lewinsky, Dolly Kyle Browning, Kathleen Willey,
>>and Juanita Broaddrick. Are there any others that we should
know
>>about?
>
pretty slick,
>herself.
Ya I believe it was Clinton that did all that scummy shit. Are
you blaming the media for reporting the truth dumbass?
>>2. Thank you for teaching my 8-year-old about oral sex. I had
>>really planned to wait until he was about 10 or so to discuss
it
>>with them, but now he knows more about it than I did as a
senior
>>in HighSchool.
>
>Clinton did this? Or the "Family Values" GOP's blathering on
and on about
>it, to that damn Liberal media?
Agaon I'm positive it was Clinton that was getting his dick
sucked while conducting the business of our country, listen, are
you stupid or something? Try getting a blow-job at Jack-in-the-
box where you work and see if they let you keep your job you
stupid fuck.
>>3. Thank you for showing us that sexual harassment in the work
>>place (especially the White House) and on the job is OK, and
all
>>you have to know is what the meaning of "IS" is. It really is
>>great to know that certain sexual acts are not sex and one
person
>>may have sex while the other one involved does NOT.
>
>Clinton did this? Or Newt "oral sex is not sex" Gingrich? And
don't forget
>ol' Bob "the Tongue" Packwood. Who was actually a good Senator.
Hahah man this shit is weak..
Your about as good at this as your Clam and JP I lump the three
of you in a special little ball of liberal play-doh.
Or maybe Silly-Putty..
>>4. Thank you for reintroducing the concept of impeachment to a
>>new generation and demonstrating that the ridiculous plot of
the
>>movie, "Wag The Dog," could be plausible after all.
>
>Clinton did this? Or congressmen who decided that evading
questions about
>an irrelevant, private matter was impeachable? And the Gulf
War looks FAR
>more like "Wag the Dog" than the bombing of Kosovo.
HAHAHAHA Clinton did this? HAHAHAHA Yep. your fucking
dirtbag leader Clinton did all this. Every disgusting bit of it.
>>5. Thanks for making Jimmy Carter look competent, Gerald Ford
>>look graceful, Richard Nixon look honest, and Lyndon Johnson
>>look truthful.
>
>I'm sure he's happy to oblige. I personally hate the actions
of the Clinton
>administration, but it's fun to watch you pinheads froth and
carry on instead
>of advancing an agenda of your own.
hehe nice try, what do I have to do with the Republican party?
Republicans have a plan and an agenda and they've moved on, and
in a few months your gonna get to learn how to live it Puss-cake.
Publicly-funded flag-burning and
>Jesus-desecrating artists, abortionists, Bolsheviks of all
sorts, the Gay
>Conspiracy and perverts everywhere thank you for your single-
minded
>obsession with the extrapolitical activities of a popular
President.
>
>> 6. Thank you for the 72 House and Senate witnesses who have
>>pleaded the 5th Amendment and 17 witnesses who have fled the
>>country to avoid testifying about Democrat campaign fund
raising.
>
>You sure you're not confusing the Clinton administration with
the Reagan and
>Bush administrations? Oh wait, they merely violated the
Constitution and
>funneled drug money to gun-runners for a dirty little war.
Among other
>things. And it was Trent Lott (and Newt before him) who
arranged the REAL
>creative fundraising. But the Dems don't have a
multimillionaire or two
>paying for private investigators to dig up dirt, do they?
>
>> 7. Thank you for the 19 charges, 8 convictions, and 4
>>imprisonment's from the Whitewater "mess" and the 55 criminal
>>charges and 32 criminal convictions (so far) in the
>>other "Clinton scandals."
>
>Now if only the previous administrations had been under
constant, hard
>scrutiny by Special Prosecutors and private investigators...
>
>>8. Thanks also for reducing our military by half, "gutting"
much
>>of our foreign policy, and flying all over the world on
>>"vacations" carefully disguised as necessary trips.
>
TRENT NEWT TRENT NEWT BLAH BLAH fucking SATAN TRENT AND NEWT.
I like your two wrongs equal a right rationalization too Puss-
cake.
Jesus Christ, that's all you idiots have isn't it?! HAHAHAHA
TRENT NEWT!!!!
>Try comparing military budgets some time. They've been getting
more money
>than they know what to do with, and then being forced by
Congress to throw
>it away on porkbarrel hardware while starving the ranks.
>
>>Also, please give my regards to Hillary, when/if you see her.
>
>She's too good for that fat fuck.
>
>>Tell her I'm working on a "Thank You" letter for her.
>
>She's gonna make a great Senator.
You gonna make a nice bitchmonkey AB and everytime I see
President GW Bush on the T.V. I'm gonna smile and think about
you pansies and your little "programs"
Hillary Will do incredible damage as a Senetor, to the image of
the N.Y. -but don't worry she won't win puke.
>--
>drop ego to email me
I did, and I had to talk down too but I don't mind, -really.
Clave
> >
> > <...>
> >
> > > Find out what the skinny is on the free health care for kids.
> > > I hope they don't expect us to pay for it. Course maby the
> > > DNC has the funds for it.
> >
> > Yeah, Lord knows we could never take any from your precious DOD
> > to pay for it.
> >
> > Jim
> xxx
> I'm glad you are finally coming to your senses.
> They want to make the B-52 fly till it's 80 years old. Does that make
> any sense to you?
> It's retirement date is 2040. And don't say we don't need it any more
> because that is not true and we have no replacement for it. A stealth
> fleet would be too costly.
> We are going to have to buy some new planes.
SMITH29
SMITH29
SMITH29 wrote:
>
> > Yeah!!! *Fuck* the kids
> >
> >
xxxxx
Why is it that you socialists use such foul language?
Just curious.
29<G>
JPRTIST
>
> Clave wrote:
> >
> > "SMITH29" <smi...@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:39987FFA...@home.com...
> >
> > <...>
> >
> > > Find out what the skinny is on the free health care for kids. I hope
> > > they don't expect us to pay for it. Course maby the DNC has the funds
> > > for it.
> >
> > Yeah, Lord knows we could never take any from your precious DOD to pay for
> > it.
> >
> > Jim
> xxx
> I'm glad you are finally coming to your senses.
> They want to make the B-52 fly till it's 80 years old. Does that make
> any sense to you?
> It's retirement date is 2040. And don't say we don't need it any more
> because that is not true and we have no replacement for it. A stealth
> fleet would be too costly.
> We are going to have to buy some new planes.
Smitty, it doesn't take any sort of real achievement to make a bomber
capable of what the B52 is capable of.
If needed, and I doubt they are, replacements for the Buff could be made
from almost any type of jet airliner currently flying.
Reroute some fuel lines, add ground radar, aerial fueling points, any
number of other types of avionics, and some bomb bay doors, whala you
have an up to date, fuel efficient bomber that would match a B-52,
probably at a fraction of the cost to operate.
The B52 is probably still flying, because it is such an expensive
aircraft to operate, it makes many companies rich, and ensures a steady
flow of cash to the AF.
Even if I am wrong, why do you disregard what defense experts like the
Joint Chiefs of Staff say is necessary or unnecessary, in favor of arm
chair soldier tripe?
--
Dick Cheney, before he dicks you!
SMITH29
JPRTIST wrote:
>
>
> Smitty, it doesn't take any sort of real achievement to make a bomber
> capable of what the B52 is capable of.
xxx
Just money.
>
> If needed, and I doubt they are, replacements for the Buff could be made
> from almost any type of jet airliner currently flying.
xxx
Maby
>
> Reroute some fuel lines, add ground radar, aerial fueling points, any
> number of other types of avionics, and some bomb bay doors, whala you
> have an up to date, fuel efficient bomber that would match a B-52,
> probably at a fraction of the cost to operate.
xxx
whala, you should submit the designs now.
>
> The B52 is probably still flying, because it is such an expensive
> aircraft to operate, it makes many companies rich, and ensures a steady
> flow of cash to the AF.
xx
Your type of political humor ha ha ha ha.
>
> Even if I am wrong, why do you disregard what defense experts like the
> Joint Chiefs of Staff say is necessary or unnecessary, in favor of arm
> chair soldier tripe?
xxx
The Joint Chiefs have been wrong as much as they have been right.
You need examples?
29
> --
AB
>We should give thanks to Mr. Clinton as the Democratic Political
>machine gets rolling. . . . .
>
>I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "Thank me, I voted for
>Clinton-Gore." So, I sat down and reflected on that and I am
>sending my "Thank you" for what you have done,.....
>specifically:
>
>1. Thank you for introducing us to Jennifer Flowers, Paula
>Jones, Monica Lewinsky, Dolly Kyle Browning, Kathleen Willey,
>and Juanita Broaddrick. Are there any others that we should know
>about?
Clinton did this? Or that damn Liberal media? BTW, Willey's pretty slick,
herself.
>2. Thank you for teaching my 8-year-old about oral sex. I had
>really planned to wait until he was about 10 or so to discuss it
>with them, but now he knows more about it than I did as a senior
>in HighSchool.
Clinton did this? Or the "Family Values" GOP's blathering on and on about
it, to that damn Liberal media?
>3. Thank you for showing us that sexual harassment in the work
>place (especially the White House) and on the job is OK, and all
>you have to know is what the meaning of "IS" is. It really is
>great to know that certain sexual acts are not sex and one person
>may have sex while the other one involved does NOT.
Clinton did this? Or Newt "oral sex is not sex" Gingrich? And don't forget
ol' Bob "the Tongue" Packwood. Who was actually a good Senator.
>4. Thank you for reintroducing the concept of impeachment to a
>new generation and demonstrating that the ridiculous plot of the
>movie, "Wag The Dog," could be plausible after all.
Clinton did this? Or congressmen who decided that evading questions about
an irrelevant, private matter was impeachable? And the Gulf War looks FAR
more like "Wag the Dog" than the bombing of Kosovo.
>5. Thanks for making Jimmy Carter look competent, Gerald Ford
>look graceful, Richard Nixon look honest, and Lyndon Johnson
>look truthful.
I'm sure he's happy to oblige. I personally hate the actions of the Clinton
administration, but it's fun to watch you pinheads froth and carry on instead
of advancing an agenda of your own. Publicly-funded flag-burning and
Jesus-desecrating artists, abortionists, Bolsheviks of all sorts, the Gay
Conspiracy and perverts everywhere thank you for your single-minded
obsession with the extrapolitical activities of a popular President.
> 6. Thank you for the 72 House and Senate witnesses who have
>pleaded the 5th Amendment and 17 witnesses who have fled the
>country to avoid testifying about Democrat campaign fund raising.
You sure you're not confusing the Clinton administration with the Reagan and
Bush administrations? Oh wait, they merely violated the Constitution and
funneled drug money to gun-runners for a dirty little war. Among other
things. And it was Trent Lott (and Newt before him) who arranged the REAL
creative fundraising. But the Dems don't have a multimillionaire or two
paying for private investigators to dig up dirt, do they?
> 7. Thank you for the 19 charges, 8 convictions, and 4
>imprisonment's from the Whitewater "mess" and the 55 criminal
>charges and 32 criminal convictions (so far) in the
>other "Clinton scandals."
Now if only the previous administrations had been under constant, hard
scrutiny by Special Prosecutors and private investigators...
>8. Thanks also for reducing our military by half, "gutting" much
>of our foreign policy, and flying all over the world on
>"vacations" carefully disguised as necessary trips.
Try comparing military budgets some time. They've been getting more money
than they know what to do with, and then being forced by Congress to throw
it away on porkbarrel hardware while starving the ranks.
>Also, please give my regards to Hillary, when/if you see her.
She's too good for that fat fuck.
>Tell her I'm working on a "Thank You" letter for her.
She's gonna make a great Senator.
--
Clave
>
> Clave wrote:
<...>
> > Yeah!!! *Fuck* the kids and their sodding health care!!! We got
*planes*
> > to buy!!!
> >
> > GWB's the candidate for you, all right.
> >
> > Jim
> xxxx
> You pay for your own kids health care. Don't expect me to. *THAT* is the
> message.
> Pure and simple even for you to comprehend.
Simple? Yep. And for all the kids who either don't have parents, or whose
parents can't *afford* health care? Who do you think I was talking about?
Who do you think Bush and his cronies have left in the cold in Texas?
FUCK EM!!! NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY!!! AM I MY BROTHERS' KEEPER??? HELL
NO!!! GET YOUR EYES OFF MY GUNS!!!
The compassion just *drips* from your posts. Or is that drool?
Jim
Clave
news:0881cb38...@usw-ex0105-037.remarq.com...
<...>
> Just wait till Clam starts making more than a 100k a year and
> watch how fast his fucked up political sensibilities change.
Heh. Tell me, Cap'n_Tool -- since you seem to place such importance on such
things, what do you think I make now?
What do you suppose the chances are that I already pay more in taxes than
you gross?
Some people don't sell their politics out for money. But I guess you don't
see many of us in the Republican party.
Jim
Clave
SMITH29
xxxxx
Stop the whine! This is politics, not sandbox. Just pay your own bills.
That is all I am asking of you and the DNC.
National health care is a pretty term for socialized medicine and it
don't work.
29
kristine
<ClaviusNo...@gte.net> wrote:
> "SMITH29" <smi...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:39989654...@home.com...
> > xxxx
> > You pay for your own kids health care. Don't expect me to. *THAT* is the
> > message.
> > Pure and simple even for you to comprehend.
>
>
> Simple? Yep. And for all the kids who either don't have parents, or whose
> parents can't *afford* health care? Who do you think I was talking about?
> Who do you think Bush and his cronies have left in the cold in Texas?
>
> FUCK EM!!! NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY!!! AM I MY BROTHERS' KEEPER??? HELL
> NO!!! GET YOUR EYES OFF MY GUNS!!!
>
> The compassion just *drips* from your posts. Or is that drool?
>
> Jim
after my husband died in '92, i stopped working to stay home and take care
of my girls, then 7 and 10. i carried the insurance through my job, and
was told that i was no longer entitled to any benefits, but could purchase
coverage. i couldn't afford it. i shopped around. i couldn't afford it.
the cost to carry insurance would have been almost half my monthly income.
i wanted to pay for my own health care. i didn't have health care until i
remarried, and my husband put my children on his policy. before that, i
lived in fear that something would happen and i wouldn't be able to pay
for my kids to be hospitalized or get the services and treatment they
needed. my late husband was rushed to the ER at 7:30 in the morning and
died in ICU 16 hours later. the bill? $61,000 and some change. not
counting the two specialists ($22,000 a piece and seperate lab bill for
$752.71). thank god we had medical coverage.
after my husband's death, i wanted to do for my own, but couldn't. i
recieved no assistance other than the survivor benefit i recieved from
social security. i was damn lucky to get it. but i worried constantly that
one of the kids would fall down and break a leg or get really sick, and
how would i pay for it? worrying about how one will financially take care
of one's own children is a feeling i wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
the largest population of homeless and poor in the country is children
under the age of 12. more children go to bed hungry here, in this country,
than in any other industrialized nation. it is a disgrace that any child
in this country doesn't have enough to eat or proper medical care.
just because you are pissed off at their parents for whatever reason, or
because you have the misguided notion that all kids without health care
are the prodigy of lazy, greedy good-for-nothings, or irresponsible drug
abusers who collect welfare, this notion shouldn't translate into
punishing the little ones.
you rail against supporting those who have little or nothing, and demand
that abortion be made illegal. you don't want to support the homeless and
dependant now; how are we gonna support all the children born to those
women who will be forced to have them? and won't get prenatal care because
they don't have medical insurance?
the fact of the matter is, most kids who are at the poverty level and
without medical care are children of single moms (like i was) who work and
can not afford health care. women typically work in low paying jobs that
offer little in the way of benefits. so women are caught in a terrible
situation, and your assumption that parents don't want to pay for their
kids benefits is a bit of a generalization and unfair.
--
kristine
queen of the undead afab army
* * * * * * * *
i'm an agent of satan, but my duties are mostly ceremonial
JPRTIST
> >
> > Even if I am wrong, why do you disregard what defense experts like the
> > Joint Chiefs of Staff say is necessary or unnecessary, in favor of arm
> > chair soldier tripe?
> xxx
> The Joint Chiefs have been wrong as much as they have been right.
> You need examples?
> 29
> > --
So, even though you think the Joint Chiefs are incompetent, you feel we
should throw money at them?
JPRTIST
I am constantly amazed at how self righteous and arrogant many
exmembers of the military are when it comes to anybody else getting
special government benefits.
I've known military men who retired from an interesting military career
at the age of forty three, they get regular raises in their pensions,
special prices for items at military stores, all of their own, and their
family's medical and dental expenses paid, while never having produced
or made a dime, on their own, for the first twenty years of their
career.
In their early forties they are able to get second careers, if they
choose, and retire again. If they prefer, they don't have to work
another day in their life.
Many of these men never saw action. They were born healthy so they have
no idea what it is like to be sick. I know of one complete jerk, who
gets two grand a month because he lost one good eye. Their is no
civilian insurance that would give anybody two grand per month for the
rest of their life for loosing an eye.
They disdain socialism, yet they made their life, and thrived, living
and working in a socialist and totalitarian system within our own
"capitalist" system.
How could they rationally begrudge others similar privilege?
SMITH29
xxx
Washington State has a kook that passed legislation on health care that
drove almost all the managed care operatives out of the state. We had
our plan canceled and went with an insurance company for catastrophic
benefits only for around $600 a month for two of us. It's all expensive
and that will never change regardless of which party is in power. If you
think it's expensive now, you must resist socialized medicine because
the cost will REALLY go up if the feds take over. And you will pay
dearly.
>
> the largest population of homeless and poor in the country is children
> under the age of 12. more children go to bed hungry here, in this country,
> than in any other industrialized nation. it is a disgrace that any child
> in this country doesn't have enough to eat or proper medical care.
xxxxx
Please post examples of starving kids not on welfare.
>
> just because you are pissed off at their parents for whatever reason, or
> because you have the misguided notion that all kids without health care
> are the prodigy of lazy, greedy good-for-nothings, or irresponsible drug
> abusers who collect welfare, this notion shouldn't translate into
> punishing the little ones.
xxx
You listen to Al Gore. He has all the solutions, HeH!
>
> you rail against supporting those who have little or nothing, and demand
> that abortion be made illegal.
xxx
To me abortion is a doctor patient confidential matter. The government
has no business in it. I have said that here a few times.
you don't want to support the homeless and
> dependant now; how are we gonna support all the children born to those
> women who will be forced to have them? and won't get prenatal care because
> they don't have medical insurance?
>
> the fact of the matter is, most kids who are at the poverty level and
> without medical care are children of single moms (like i was) who work and
> can not afford health care. women typically work in low paying jobs that
> offer little in the way of benefits. so women are caught in a terrible
> situation, and your assumption that parents don't want to pay for their
> kids benefits is a bit of a generalization and unfair.
xxx
40% of white births are out of wedlock.
70% of black births are out of wedlock.
NIH figures.
Go to the grocery store on welfare mothers day and take a good hard look
at all the starving overweight mothers filling the cart with welfare
food.
Many are fourth generation welfare recipients.
Look at the kids with them.
Tell us how many starving kids you saw.
A mile from our home is a federal housing project with fresh siding,
roofs and windows. The tenants don't even have to mow the lawns. The
government feeds, clothes, and pays for there needs totally. I have
NEVER laid eyes on a starving American kid. I've seen a lot of fat ones,
there easy to find.
At Harborview Medical Center ( top 10 in the nation for trauma care
)anybody can walk in with no money and get endless medical care. It has
been that way for many years.
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DrPostman
>xxx
>Man!,, I wish you could have served. We wouldn't be having this
>disgussion now.
>29
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moment. Check out the Internet news for the computer-based
glitches, the power outages, FEMA preparations, etc. You'll find
that it is all moving right along as predicted, but the reporting
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SMITH29
xx
And don't think serving under the UCMJ for a bunch of thankless BASTARDS
was a vacation!
>
> How could they rationally begrudge others similar privilege?
xxx
They don't Randy. Serve the 20 and draw the benefits. See anything wrong
with that idea?
What PISSES people off are those that demand the benefits but serve zero
time. The country owes you nothing you didn't earn.
There's no such thing as benefit entitlement, deal with it.
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SMITH29
xxx
Man!,, I wish you could have served. We wouldn't be having this
disgussion now.
29
>
kristine
> xxx
> Washington State has a kook that passed legislation on health care that
> drove almost all the managed care operatives out of the state. We had
> our plan canceled and went with an insurance company for catastrophic
> benefits only for around $600 a month for two of us. It's all expensive
> and that will never change regardless of which party is in power. If you
> think it's expensive now, you must resist socialized medicine because
> the cost will REALLY go up if the feds take over. And you will pay
> dearly.
perhaps...but i don't really know enough about socialized medicine to
comment about it...i have very good friends who are from canada and they
have it good and bad...it's not perfect, but really neither is the way we
have it.
i don't know what the answer is, but i couldn't afford health insurance
while i was a single mom, and i know what my parents pay for their
coverage, and it's a ton of money...and now my dad needs cataract surgery
and their plan doesn't cover it. my dad served his country in WWII, lost
his hearing because of it, was a high school teacher all his life, and now
he's fucked because he can't afford the surgery. luckily i can, but how
about the other seniors and children who don't have someone who can pay?
like i said, i have no idea what the answer is.
>
> >
> > the largest population of homeless and poor in the country is children
> > under the age of 12. more children go to bed hungry here, in this country,
> > than in any other industrialized nation. it is a disgrace that any child
> > in this country doesn't have enough to eat or proper medical care.
> xxxxx
> Please post examples of starving kids not on welfare.
what, you want their names and addresses of the kids i took care of who
didn't eat every day and whose moms worked hard and were ashamed that
their kids had ketchup sandwiches every other night for supper? sheesh....
i worked in a large county hospital in southern california and saw tons of
kids who, while not starving, has little food and clothing and their
mothers weren't on welfare. i also worked in south central l.a. and saw
kids with food to eat and an apartment and minimal health insurance. some
of the latter abused the system, some didn't.
however, because some aspects are bad, or some abuse the system, should we
junk the whole system? because some welfare moms take advantage of the
situation, should i be deprived of adequate, affordable health care for my
two kids...?
>
> >
> > just because you are pissed off at their parents for whatever reason, or
> > because you have the misguided notion that all kids without health care
> > are the prodigy of lazy, greedy good-for-nothings, or irresponsible drug
> > abusers who collect welfare, this notion shouldn't translate into
> > punishing the little ones.
> xxx
> You listen to Al Gore. He has all the solutions, HeH!
i don't listen to either al gore *or* bush. they both are clueless and
inane. you continually jump to conclusions....like assuming i listen to
gore and think he has all the answers because i am for keeping abortion
legal. but i also think the government outta stay out of peoples bedrooms
and gun racks. you have classified me as a "bleeding heart liberal"
because i have said here in this forum that i am pro abortion. you have
made hundreds of erroneous judgements based on this one piece of
information. you are only showing that you aren't really interested in
listening to what others have to say. you suppose everyone is as closed
minded and one dimensional as you.
>
> >
> > you rail against supporting those who have little or nothing, and demand
> > that abortion be made illegal.
> xxx
> To me abortion is a doctor patient confidential matter. The government
> has no business in it. I have said that here a few times.
i don't remember you ever saying that. i stand corrected.
> you don't want to support the homeless and
> > dependant now; how are we gonna support all the children born to those
> > women who will be forced to have them? and won't get prenatal care because
> > they don't have medical insurance?
>
> >
> > the fact of the matter is, most kids who are at the poverty level and
> > without medical care are children of single moms (like i was) who work and
> > can not afford health care. women typically work in low paying jobs that
> > offer little in the way of benefits. so women are caught in a terrible
> > situation, and your assumption that parents don't want to pay for their
> > kids benefits is a bit of a generalization and unfair.
> xxx
> 40% of white births are out of wedlock.
> 70% of black births are out of wedlock.
> NIH figures.
> Go to the grocery store on welfare mothers day and take a good hard look
> at all the starving overweight mothers filling the cart with welfare
> food.
> Many are fourth generation welfare recipients.
> Look at the kids with them.
> Tell us how many starving kids you saw.
i don't see starving kids. i don't think i have ever seen a "starving"
child in my practice. i think, however, your above characterization is
sweeping, broad, and an oversimplification. i have seen hundreds of
children in my work as a home health nurse that live in conditions i
wouldn't let my dog live in...with very little food, old, inadequate
clothing, and virtually no health care. and they are all colors and almost
all the mothers work at respectable jobs and want better for their kids. i
can't think of a worse fate than sending my little four year old daughter
to bed hungry. and i have worried about how i was gonna make ends meet
and existed with no health care while my two older daughters were small. i
wonder if you know what that is like.
i have struggled, and now i live a very nice comfortable life. i have seen
both sides, lived both sides. i don't folks should get a free ride, but
some people need some help some times. and because you don't want some
people to rip off the system, we are faced with abandoning the ones who
need help.
>
> A mile from our home is a federal housing project with fresh siding,
> roofs and windows. The tenants don't even have to mow the lawns. The
> government feeds, clothes, and pays for there needs totally. I have
> NEVER laid eyes on a starving American kid. I've seen a lot of fat ones,
> there easy to find.
>
> At Harborview Medical Center ( top 10 in the nation for trauma care
> )anybody can walk in with no money and get endless medical care. It has
> been that way for many years.
i can't speak to that...i do take your word that's it is true. where i
lived, in so cal, one could see a physican in the ER of a county hospital
for little or no money, but it was extremely limited in its scope and
hardly endless. i now live in ohio and it is the exact same way. i have
friends all over the country who are in the medical field (my best friend
is a ultrasound specialist in chicago, i have a relative who is a
physican's assistant in the deep south and a cousin who is a
neuropathologist in maryland) and the situation is basically the same.
you can get emergency services (sometimes) at the county, but it is
limited and not endless.
however, i don't see how this addresses what i feel is the need for
coverage for the children in this country who go years without ever seeing
a doctor because their parents can't afford to take them.
SMITH29
kristine wrote:
>
> In article <39997336...@home.com>, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote:
>
>
> perhaps...but i don't really know enough about socialized medicine to
> comment about it...i have very good friends who are from canada and they
> have it good and bad...it's not perfect, but really neither is the way we
> have it.
>
> i don't know what the answer is, but i couldn't afford health insurance
> while i was a single mom, and i know what my parents pay for their
> coverage, and it's a ton of money...and now my dad needs cataract surgery
> and their plan doesn't cover it. my dad served his country in WWII, lost
> his hearing because of it, was a high school teacher all his life, and now
> he's fucked because he can't afford the surgery. luckily i can, but how
> about the other seniors and children who don't have someone who can pay?
>
> like i said, i have no idea what the answer is.
>
> >
> > >
> > > the largest population of homeless and poor in the country is children
> > > under the age of 12. more children go to bed hungry here, in this country,
> > > than in any other industrialized nation. it is a disgrace that any child
> > > in this country doesn't have enough to eat or proper medical care.
> > xxxxx
> > Please post examples of starving kids not on welfare.
>
> what, you want their names and addresses of the kids i took care of who
> didn't eat every day and whose moms worked hard and were ashamed that
> their kids had ketchup sandwiches every other night for supper? sheesh....
xxx
There really is no need for hungry kids. We have adequate social
services in place for situations like this.
>
> i worked in a large county hospital in southern california and saw tons of
> kids who, while not starving, has little food and clothing and their
> mothers weren't on welfare. i also worked in south central l.a. and saw
> kids with food to eat and an apartment and minimal health insurance. some
> of the latter abused the system, some didn't.
>
> however, because some aspects are bad, or some abuse the system, should we
> junk the whole system? because some welfare moms take advantage of the
> situation, should i be deprived of adequate, affordable health care for my
> two kids...?
xx
Of course not.
What gravels my ass is Gore tugging at the heart strings to get votes by
promising government health care. I hope people see thru this charade.
Like, where has the mighty Democratic Party been the last 8 1/2 years?
They fixed the lousy school system too, didn't they....
Hillary screwed up the health care system so bad it lead to layoffs in
the medical industry for the first time in manny years. She even admits
she blew it and wants to screw New York for an encore.
>
> >
> > >
> > > just because you are pissed off at their parents for whatever reason, or
> > > because you have the misguided notion that all kids without health care
> > > are the prodigy of lazy, greedy good-for-nothings, or irresponsible drug
> > > abusers who collect welfare, this notion shouldn't translate into
> > > punishing the little ones.
> > xxx
> > You listen to Al Gore. He has all the solutions, HeH!
>
> i don't listen to either al gore *or* bush. they both are clueless and
> inane. you continually jump to conclusions....like assuming i listen to
> gore and think he has all the answers because i am for keeping abortion
> legal. but i also think the government outta stay out of peoples bedrooms
> and gun racks. you have classified me as a "bleeding heart liberal"
> because i have said here in this forum that i am pro abortion.
xxxx
I don't recall the event. I have had the same stand about abortion for
years.
It is none of the polititians business what goes on in a doctors office.
It would make no sense for me to remark on your position.
you have
> made hundreds of erroneous judgements based on this one piece of
> information. you are only showing that you aren't really interested in
> listening to what others have to say. you suppose everyone is as closed
> minded and one dimensional as you.
xxx
Maybe you have me confused with someone else?
>
> >
> > >
> > > you rail against supporting those who have little or nothing, and demand
> > > that abortion be made illegal.
xxx
You got me confused with someone else.
> > xxx
> > To me abortion is a doctor patient confidential matter. The government
> > has no business in it. I have said that here a few times.
>
> i don't remember you ever saying that. i stand corrected.
>
> > you don't want to support the homeless and
> > > dependant now; how are we gonna support all the children born to those
> > > women who will be forced to have them? and won't get prenatal care because
> > > they don't have medical insurance?
> >
> > >
> i can't speak to that...i do take your word that's it is true. where i
> lived, in so cal, one could see a physican in the ER of a county hospital
> for little or no money, but it was extremely limited in its scope and
> hardly endless. i now live in ohio and it is the exact same way. i have
> friends all over the country who are in the medical field (my best friend
> is a ultrasound specialist in chicago, i have a relative who is a
> physican's assistant in the deep south and a cousin who is a
> neuropathologist in maryland) and the situation is basically the same.
> you can get emergency services (sometimes) at the county, but it is
> limited and not endless.
>
> however, i don't see how this addresses what i feel is the need for
> coverage for the children in this country who go years without ever seeing
> a doctor because their parents can't afford to take them.
xxx
Not only children but a lot of people need assistance and I support
that.
But to see Al Gore pull his line of crap on TV blows my mind. He hasn't
a clue. Both parties need a firm kick in the ass.
A possible solution is to take Social Security away from the government.
Use the money to invest in the market on blue chip corporations and
insurance companies.
Allow money into a medical IRA to pay for health care by having a policy
with an insurance company rather than a Health Care Provider and get
them out of the way of medicine. I would like to see the PPO and HMO
bite the dust too.
A co-operative insurance company like your auto insurance would be an
excellent opportunity to invest in with the medical IRA. That way we get
rid of the middle man "health care provider." If it works for the
automotive situation it ought to work for health care and it would NOT
be socialized medicine and you would not have a provider in the office
with you when you see your doctor. It would not have the inefficient
federal government in it either.
Any way, that's what our family is doing for health care and it works
very well and we don't need to ask for a procedure, the doctor orders it
and away we go.
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<G>
AB
>aaro...@dell1.kallisti (AB) wrote:
>>Cap'n_TrVth <jtNOj...@untool.net.invalid> wrote:
>>>We should give thanks to Mr. Clinton as the Democratic Political machine
>>>gets rolling. . . . .
>>>
>>>I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "Thank me, I voted for
>>>Clinton-Gore." So, I sat down and reflected on that and I am sending my
>>>"Thank you" for what you have done,..... specifically:
>>>
>>>1. Thank you for introducing us to Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Monica
>>>Lewinsky, Dolly Kyle Browning, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broaddrick.
>>>Are there any others that we should know about?
>>
>>Clinton did this? Or that damn Liberal media? BTW, Willey's pretty
>>slick, herself.
>
>Ya I believe it was Clinton that did all that scummy shit. Are
>you blaming the media for reporting the truth dumbass?
Clinton just allegedly fucked around with 'em. In private. Who paraded 'em
around for months on end?
>>>2. Thank you for teaching my 8-year-old about oral sex. I had really
>>>planned to wait until he was about 10 or so to discuss it with them, but
>>>now he knows more about it than I did as a senior in HighSchool.
>>
>>Clinton did this? Or the "Family Values" GOP's blathering on and on about
>>it, to that damn Liberal media?
>
>Agaon I'm positive it was Clinton that was getting his dick
>sucked while conducting the business of our country,
And therefore, your 8-year-old just HAD to hear about it. Repeatedly.
Thank you GOP. Boy, the "Liberal media bias" sure made that hard.
>>>3. Thank you for showing us that sexual harassment in the work place
>>>(especially the White House) and on the job is OK, and all you have to
>>>know is what the meaning of "IS" is. It really is great to know that
>>>certain sexual acts are not sex and one person may have sex while the
>>>other one involved does NOT.
>>
>>Clinton did this? Or Newt "oral sex is not sex" Gingrich? And don't
>>forget ol' Bob "the Tongue" Packwood. Who was actually a good Senator.
>
>Hahah man this shit is weak..
Hey, don't blame me, blame Newt and Bob and all the hypocrites who did
their Moral Outrage act while cheating on their own spouses. We all knew it
was bullshit, but they kept wasting everyone's time with it instead of doing
their damn jobs.
On the second thought, I guess it could be worse, they could've passed more
gun control like previous Republican-controlled congresses did...
>Your about as good at this as your Clam and JP I lump the three
>of you in a special little ball of liberal play-doh.
Lump away. Like I said, I care little for Mr. Clinton, but care less for
fuckheads in public office who make a person's private life everyone's
business. Repeatedly. All over all media. With MY tax money.
>Or maybe Silly-Putty..
*bow* I'm flattered. Silly-putty is way cool.
>>>4. Thank you for reintroducing the concept of impeachment to a new
>>>generation and demonstrating that the ridiculous plot of the movie, "Wag
>>>The Dog," could be plausible after all.
>>
>>Clinton did this? Or congressmen who decided that evading questions about
>>an irrelevant, private matter was impeachable? And the Gulf War looks FAR
>>more like "Wag the Dog" than the bombing of Kosovo.
>
>HAHAHAHA Clinton did this? HAHAHAHA Yep. your fucking
>dirtbag leader Clinton did all this. Every disgusting bit of it.
So Clinton called the impeachment hearings? Arranged for ol' Slobodan to
invade Albania? Ummm... yeah, whatever.
>>>5. Thanks for making Jimmy Carter look competent, Gerald Ford
>>>look graceful, Richard Nixon look honest, and Lyndon Johnson
>>>look truthful.
>>
>>I'm sure he's happy to oblige. I personally hate the actions of the
>>Clinton administration, but it's fun to watch you pinheads froth and carry
>>on instead of advancing an agenda of your own.
>
>hehe nice try, what do I have to do with the Republican party?
Um, when did I identify you with the Republicans?
>Republicans have a plan and an agenda and they've moved on,
...unlike you...
>and in a few months your gonna get to learn how to live it Puss-cake.
I'm cool wid'dat. No way am I voting for Gore. He'll sell us out just like
Bush but ban everything fun along the way.
>TRENT NEWT TRENT NEWT BLAH BLAH fucking SATAN TRENT AND NEWT.
Um, are you well?
>>>Also, please give my regards to Hillary, when/if you see her.
>>
>>She's too good for that fat fuck.
>>
>>>Tell her I'm working on a "Thank You" letter for her.
>>
>>She's gonna make a great Senator.
>
>You gonna make a nice bitchmonkey AB and everytime I see
>President GW Bush on the T.V. I'm gonna smile and think about
>you pansies and your little "programs"
No problem, as long we can keep our guns. Gotta be able to defend the Bill
of Rights from the fascists and the greedheads.
DrPostman
(kristine) wrote:
>i don't know what the answer is, but i couldn't afford health insurance
>while i was a single mom,
As much as I may bitch about it, I thank Ghod for the VA.
I am afraid that the system may collapse when the vietnam
vet generation ages, and I come just after that.
kristine
> > > Please post examples of starving kids not on welfare.
> > what, you want their names and addresses of the kids i took care of who
> > didn't eat every day and whose moms worked hard and were ashamed that
> > their kids had ketchup sandwiches every other night for supper? sheesh....
> There really is no need for hungry kids. We have adequate social services
> in place for situations like
> this.
you can't be serious. this has to be one of most naive statements i have
read in a long time.
little story:
i was referred to a patient by a school nurse. the patient was an eight
year old diabetic who was passing out at school on a regular basis, and
seemed utterly clueless as to what was the matter with her. i went to her
family home one afternoon, and unfortunately, was not surprised at what i
found. after a thousand years as a home health nurse, nothing much shocked
me anymore.
i had found out from a physican that this little girl had had six
admissions in a year with a blood sugar of 500+. textbook normal is around
120, give or take. this little walked into the ER with this kind of labs,
and its a miracle she was alive, let alone able to put on foot in front of
another.
mom was diabetic, as was an aunt who lived there and was completely blind
and on thrice weekly dialysis due to unmanaged diabetes. grandma, who also
was diabetic, was blind, spending her days lying on a bed in the back of
the house with both legs amputated...all due to out of control diabetes.
the mom admitted that the whole situation was too much for her, that it
took all her energy to go to work and keep a roof over their heads and
food in the house. my patient had an older sister, and dad was gone and
hadn't paid a dime in child support in three years. was the mom
irresponsible? yes. had she tried to get help in all the conventional
ways? yes. had she been helped? no.
the upshot? TWO YEARS after my initial visit, myself, two doctors, a
social worker and the school nurse were all trying to get various "social
services" to get it together with no result. the best that could be done
was CPS wanted to come in and remove the child, challenge for custody and
place her in a foster home.
my company gave the family a blood test montior and test strips, and i
spent hundreds of hours there teaching the family and the little girl how
to manage the disease they all shared, all at the expensive of my
company...
this was not an isolated incident. i personally know of and have worked on
cases where mom's were struggling, proactive and tried to get help. it's a
joke, and by saying "we have adequate social services in place for
situations like this." doesn't really address the problem and simple
serves to end the discussion and make you feel better.
kids go to bed hungry in this land of plenty all the time. every night.
just because you can't see them doesn't mean they aren't out there. go to
a women's shelter sometime and tell them you think there aren't any hungry
kids in america (but that you've seen plenty of fat ones) and that there
are adequate social services in place to help them. you might mention that
you think that most abuse the system, while waddling into the market with
food stamps to purchase twinkies.
then duck. and run.
> Hillary screwed up the health care system so bad it lead to layoffs in
> the medical industry for the first
> time in manny years. She even admits she blew it and wants to screw New
> York for an encore.
i have no idea about this perception. i lived in southern california for
the first forty years of my life, twenty as a RN, and the last two in Ohio
as an RN, and i have never found there to be cutbacks or layoffs in the
medical profession. there is such a demand here in the midwest for anyone
to work in the health care field, it's almost scary.
they are building two brand new hospitals in my area, one will be a 300+
bed trauma one center, and the other one will be an adjunct to the
bethesda system already in place.
i totally disagree with your assessment that the health care field is
suffering. the insurance system might be another matter. i know its
expensive to obtain and keep medical insurance, but how is that Mrs
Clinton's fault?
goodo...@webbworks.com
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:25:24 GMT, aaro...@dell1.kallisti (AB) wrote:
>Cap'n_TrVth <jtNOj...@untool.net.invalid> wrote:
>>aaro...@dell1.kallisti (AB) wrote:
>>>Cap'n_TrVth <jtNOj...@untool.net.invalid> wrote:
>>>>We should give thanks to Mr. Clinton as the Democratic Political machine
>>>>gets rolling. . . . .
>>>>
>>>>I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "Thank me, I voted for
>>>>Clinton-Gore." So, I sat down and reflected on that and I am sending my
>>>>"Thank you" for what you have done,..... specifically:
>>>>
>>>>1. Thank you for introducing us to Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Monica
>>>>Lewinsky, Dolly Kyle Browning, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broaddrick.
>>>>Are there any others that we should know about?
>>>
>>>Clinton did this? Or that damn Liberal media? BTW, Willey's pretty
>>>slick, herself.
>>
>>Ya I believe it was Clinton that did all that scummy shit. Are
>>you blaming the media for reporting the truth dumbass?
>
>Clinton just allegedly fucked around with 'em. In private. Who paraded 'em
>around for months on end?
Who swore he never had any sexual relations with that woman?
>>>>2. Thank you for teaching my 8-year-old about oral sex. I had really
>>>>planned to wait until he was about 10 or so to discuss it with them, but
>>>>now he knows more about it than I did as a senior in HighSchool.
>>>
>>>Clinton did this? Or the "Family Values" GOP's blathering on and on about
>>>it, to that damn Liberal media?
>>
>>Agaon I'm positive it was Clinton that was getting his dick
>>sucked while conducting the business of our country,
>
>And therefore, your 8-year-old just HAD to hear about it. Repeatedly.
>Thank you GOP. Boy, the "Liberal media bias" sure made that hard.
AB, are you saying there is no Liberal media bias? Remember,
they were just reporting the truth. Doesn't the country deserve to
know what is going on? Hell, they usually put a spin on stories. That
one, well, they stuck with the basics, but they did report it (knowing
full well that if they didn't, someone else would). Hard to cover up
that one, eh?
>>>>3. Thank you for showing us that sexual harassment in the work place
>>>>(especially the White House) and on the job is OK, and all you have to
>>>>know is what the meaning of "IS" is. It really is great to know that
>>>>certain sexual acts are not sex and one person may have sex while the
>>>>other one involved does NOT.
>>>
>>>Clinton did this? Or Newt "oral sex is not sex" Gingrich? And don't
>>>forget ol' Bob "the Tongue" Packwood. Who was actually a good Senator.
>>
>>Hahah man this shit is weak..
Yep, they all resigned. Didn't pull at the nervestrings of the
country. Neither did they lie about their affairs. Or did they?
>Hey, don't blame me, blame Newt and Bob and all the hypocrites who did
>their Moral Outrage act while cheating on their own spouses. We all knew it
>was bullshit, but they kept wasting everyone's time with it instead of doing
>their damn jobs.
News flash! Gingrich and Packwood resigned when their indisgressions
were discovered. Did Clinton? I mean who's still in office, anyway?
>On the second thought, I guess it could be worse, they could've passed more
>gun control like previous Republican-controlled congresses did...
Right. No new gun laws. Just enforce the ones already in place.
>>Your about as good at this as your Clam and JP I lump the three
>>of you in a special little ball of liberal play-doh.
AB is much more reasonable than Clave and Randy. Be still with thine
keyboard.
>Lump away. Like I said, I care little for Mr. Clinton, but care less for
>fuckheads in public office who make a person's private life everyone's
>business. Repeatedly. All over all media. With MY tax money.
Bwahahaha. It's only your money if the govment lets you have it.
>>Or maybe Silly-Putty..
>
>*bow* I'm flattered. Silly-putty is way cool.
Yep, if you put it on a comic strip the writing comes out in reverse.
Then you can see what the author really meant to say ;)
>>>>4. Thank you for reintroducing the concept of impeachment to a new
>>>>generation and demonstrating that the ridiculous plot of the movie, "Wag
>>>>The Dog," could be plausible after all.
>>>
>>>Clinton did this? Or congressmen who decided that evading questions about
>>>an irrelevant, private matter was impeachable? And the Gulf War looks FAR
>>>more like "Wag the Dog" than the bombing of Kosovo.
>>
>>HAHAHAHA Clinton did this? HAHAHAHA Yep. your fucking
>>dirtbag leader Clinton did all this. Every disgusting bit of it.
>
>So Clinton called the impeachment hearings?
Don't be stoopid. He just surrendered our military to the UN for a
smokescreen from the impeachment hearings.
>Arranged for ol' Slobodan to invade Albania? Ummm... yeah, whatever.
Slobo went to the right place at the right time for the Clintong
agenda (Wag the Dog).
>>>>5. Thanks for making Jimmy Carter look competent, Gerald Ford
>>>>look graceful, Richard Nixon look honest, and Lyndon Johnson
>>>>look truthful.
>>>
>>>I'm sure he's happy to oblige. I personally hate the actions of the
>>>Clinton administration, but it's fun to watch you pinheads froth and carry
>>>on instead of advancing an agenda of your own.
>>
>>hehe nice try, what do I have to do with the Republican party?
>
>Um, when did I identify you with the Republicans?
>
>>Republicans have a plan and an agenda and they've moved on,
>
>...unlike you...
>
>>and in a few months your gonna get to learn how to live it Puss-cake.
>
>I'm cool wid'dat. No way am I voting for Gore. He'll sell us out just like
>Bush but ban everything fun along the way.
If you don't vote for Bush, vote for Nader...
>>TRENT NEWT TRENT NEWT BLAH BLAH fucking SATAN TRENT AND NEWT.
>
>Um, are you well?
I don't think so. Have you hugged your shrink lately, JT?
>>>>Also, please give my regards to Hillary, when/if you see her.
>>>
>>>She's too good for that fat fuck.
>>>
>>>>Tell her I'm working on a "Thank You" letter for her.
>>>
>>>She's gonna make a great Senator.
Not a chance.
>>You gonna make a nice bitchmonkey AB and everytime I see
>>President GW Bush on the T.V. I'm gonna smile and think about
>>you pansies and your little "programs"
>
>No problem, as long we can keep our guns. Gotta be able to defend the Bill
>of Rights from the fascists and the greedheads.
Agreed, if you include the Constitution (not a living, breathing
document which can be interpreted by which ever party puts the judges
in power)
>--
>drop ego to email me.
Ego? I got no ego? I don't need no stinking ego!
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In the beginning I was sad when Art Bell converted his
"Coast to Coast AM" to "Coast to Coast Dreamland."
Then I was hurt when he ignored our pleas to use his original format.
Now I'm mad as hell and I can't take it anymore!
Just say No to "Coast to Coast Dreamland!"
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I feel your pain, you little point of light...
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 04:20:08 GMT, queenk...@thecastle.com
(kristine) wrote:
---
kristine
> Noted, and saved for future consideration.
> I feel your pain, you little point of light...
at least this little point of light knows how to edit.
goodo...@webbworks.com
(kristine) wrote:
>In article <399ae6ed...@news.uswest.net>, goodo...@webbworks.com wrote:
>
>> Noted, and saved for future consideration.
>> I feel your pain, you little point of light...
>
>
>at least this little point of light knows how to edit.
Of course you do, you always leave out my zingers.
I left the your post in full, because I believed it.
Don't go expecting it all the time, I haven't the patience.
>--
>kristEEN
SMITH29
kristine wrote:
>
>
> kristine wrote:
> >
> > In article <39997336...@home.com>, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Please post examples of starving kids not on welfare.
>
>
> > > what, you want their names and addresses of the kids i took care of who
> > > didn't eat every day and whose moms worked hard and were ashamed that
> > > their kids had ketchup sandwiches every other night for supper? sheesh....
>
xxxx
Well, I didn't say or mean that the government administrates itself very
well but I know that out here we have a fairly good system. Now there
are some people that fall through the cracks for one reason or another
and I'm not to blame for that.
CPS is a nightmare of mismanagement gone amok in almost every state.
Welfare is there for those that need it and sometimes it is a mess to
get anything done. You can imagine what a national health care program
would be like.
I would add that it isn't the governments job to dress and feed every
person and those that need help should be able to get it. Mom's day at
Safeway is proof of that.
Besides that, there will be no national health care despite Gore's
claims.
>
> > Hillary screwed up the health care system so bad it lead to layoffs in
> > the medical industry for the first
> > time in manny years. She even admits she blew it and wants to screw New
> > York for an encore.
>
> i have no idea about this perception. i lived in southern california for
> the first forty years of my life, twenty as a RN, and the last two in Ohio
> as an RN, and i have never found there to be cutbacks or layoffs in the
> medical profession. there is such a demand here in the midwest for anyone
> to work in the health care field, it's almost scary.
xxx
The nurse situation out here sucks. The hospitals put them on part time
so they don't have to pay them bennies.
So, guess what? They have a hard time finding qualified nurses because
they LEFT the profession.
Health care equipment suppliers laid off and closed divisions left and
right. Some companies simply closed the doors.
All this started happening shortly after Bill showed the country the
little health care card on TV back early in his first term. Things went
down hill from there.
>
> they are building two brand new hospitals in my area, one will be a 300+
> bed trauma one center, and the other one will be an adjunct to the
> bethesda system already in place.
>
> i totally disagree with your assessment that the health care field is
> suffering.
xxx
Providence Medical Center here in Seattle had to either sell or fold. It
was one of the major centers here.
Since 1990 the country has lost on the order of about 60+ hospitals in
total.
Check for yourself. Things could be much better in the health care
field.
the insurance system might be another matter. i know its
> expensive to obtain and keep medical insurance, but how is that Mrs
> Clinton's fault?
xxx
To get an explanation you will believe you should contact her directly.
Any thing I say will be construed as a biassed opinion. She felt bad
enough about it to mention it in her speech the other night at the
opening of the Democratic convention.
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>
> --
> kristine
Major Margaret Houlihan BsD
queenk...@thecastle.com (kristine) wrote:
->
-> kristine wrote:
-> >
-> > In article <39997336...@home.com>, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com>
wrote:
[snip]
-> this was not an isolated incident. i personally know of and have worked on
-> cases where mom's were struggling, proactive and tried to get help. it's a
-> joke, and by saying "we have adequate social services in place for
-> situations like this." doesn't really address the problem and simple
-> serves to end the discussion and make you feel better.
->
-> kids go to bed hungry in this land of plenty all the time. every night.
-> just because you can't see them doesn't mean they aren't out there. go to
-> a women's shelter sometime and tell them you think there aren't any hungry
-> kids in america (but that you've seen plenty of fat ones) and that there
-> are adequate social services in place to help them. you might mention that
-> you think that most abuse the system, while waddling into the market with
-> food stamps to purchase twinkies.
->
-> then duck. and run.
One cause of obesity in lower income families is they often have to
rely on staples such as potatoes, bread, and pasta to fill their
families' stomaches. They can't afford to buy fruit and vegetables
to have a balanced diet, and all of those carbohydrates turn into
fat. If a head of lettuce and a twenty pound bag of potatoes are
approximately the same amount of money, which one *might* last until
payday? Think about it!
--
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Sir Major Margaret of the Mighty Comeback,
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"Shut up, Frank!"
SMITH29
> "Shut up, Frank!"
xxxx
Man!!!! I wish I was eating as good as the welfare shoppers.
Decisions go like " What shall it be, Porterhouse or T-bone.
I think it's great they eat well and anyone saying they dont better come
to White Center Safeway on the first of the month. I mean, they clean
out the meat market and buy packaged dehydrated "spuds" and plenty
fruits and veggies plus the freezer for all the ice cream bars in the
place.
There not fat from eating poorly, I can tell you that.
They buy ice cubes cause they party later that night and there too lazy
to make extra cubes at home.
I get a kick out of the ones that arrive in there late model luxury cars
wearing fancy clothes.
29
AM
explaining that "Republicans believe that the best way to feed the birds is
to give more oats to the horse."
That about sums it up.
AM
SMITH29
xxxx
I was shocked to see how fast the Gore selection changed Lieberman's
outlook on issues. The man switched positions in an instant. Amazing!!!
ANYBODY that thinks we have starving citizens by the millions should
visit your local Safeway on welfare mothers day. Watch the meat market
empty before your eyes while simple staples such as spuds are passed
over for the dehydrated kind.
kristine has pointed out that some kids don't get fed properly and I
agree but I guess natural selection is at work or there's drugs in the
scene or the welfare office is not doing it's job. It's a fact that
properly run welfare offices attract welfare recipients from all over
and I think Seattle must have some of the better in the nation. Driving
past the housing project I see in the driveways almost new cars of all
makes. Even some Mercedes sedans. They drive new cars, live in modern
ground floor units with manicured lawns and eat the local stores down.
And I see lots of young kids around. Some have to be 5th and 6th
generation welfare grown.
I see very few asians around and we have a load of them. They work and
take care of themselves. They are a proud people. There is a small store
near here that's run by a Chinese gal and her dad. They are from the
mainland and they are not rich but they are happy to be here and are
proud to work for any wage. I buy from them often. If they can do it why
do we have all these other people hanging from the public meat? It's
because the moral fiber of this country is in the shit can. Millions of
single mothers with no job skills are the foundation of the welfare
recipients. They get a worthless education till the find a boy between
there legs and the rest is osmosis. They want to get pregnant to swing
on the welfare meat.
Now Gore wants to put forth a health plan for every kid in the nation
paid for by us working stiffs. The plan will never fly but frantic Gore
will lie for votes. How many of us are stupid to vote for this guy? Not
enough to get him elected I hope!!
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paghat
> ANYBODY that thinks
That certainly wouldn't include you!
What an unimaginably under-educated putz you repeatedly show yourself to
be. Hunger is not the same as starvation, the latter, for Americans,
restricted mainly to cases of severe child abuse & neglect -- itself a
numberin the high thousands. But in terms of hunger sufficient to cause
health problems & developmental deficiencies, EXTREMELY common in America.
And in a world where more & more of the food production is completely
controlled by agribusiness, access to sufficient amounts of food for a
whole family is a growing rather than diminishing problem.
The Mazon fund for hunger in America reports: "In America, hungry children
take turns eating breakfast. Millions of elderly people choose each month
between paying their heating bill or buying groceries. Growing numbers of
unemployed, underemployed and physically and mentally disadvantaged people
go for days without eating a hot meal. While no one is sure exactly how
many Americans suffer from hunger, the number unquestionably is in the
millions. Hunger has been documented authoritatively in all 50 states.
Despite a network of government and private food-assistance programs that
address this scandal in our land of plenty, hunger in America shows no
signs of diminishing."
The majority of the hungry are the elderly & the very young. One in five
children in America live well below the poverty level but NOT one in five
children receive the welfare assistance you seemingly deplore.
Seattle Senior Services (where my sweety Granny Artemis worked for a
couple years): "Programs like Meals on Wheels that provide nutritious food
to homebound elderly, are having a hard time keeping up with the demand.
Across the country, thousands of elderly men & women too infirm to cook or
shop are put on waiting lists for food." Reports of shut-in starvation are
on the rise, & the number of elderly living off dogfood on the rise. An
estimated five million elderly are hungry enough to have medical
side-effects from lack of nutrition. Trudy Leiberman in an article for THE
NATION notes that the elderly do not provide a sufficiently glamorous base
for philanthropy. Politics neglect those who are old & alone & hungry, who
are often also too ill to vote so just don't count. Leiberman's article is
posted here:
http://www.thenation.com/issue/980330/0330lieb.htm
For Washington state it is estimated nearly 12% of households are living
well below the poverty level. This compares nationally to the ten worst
states for poverty (Texas & Arkansas among them if anyone wishes to apply
this to presidential campaigning & lip-service). What percentage of this
sizeable number of poor is malnourished has never been studied, but anyone
who thinks welfare queens are taking care of the problem has his head so
far up his ass the ONLY thing he can see is his own shit & nothing more.
A recent U.S. Department of Agriculture study found that 10 million
families, or 9.7 percent of U.S. households, didn't get enough to eat in
1996-98. Such studies are fond of the phrase "Food Insecurity" as it
includes families that receive foodstamps sufficiently to feed them two to
three weeks out of every four, shut-ins who receive one free delivered
meal a day & somehow manage to survive on it, & others who are off-&-on
well enough fed from time to time but not reliably. The record-holding
hungriest state is New Mexico. The greatest concentration of hungry live
on reservations that have limited agricultural capacity, no jobs, &
sporadic volunteer & welfare sources of nutrition -- if not for hunger
awareness & volunteers & the foodstamp system many would indeed suffer
from the more extreme edge of starvation rather than just "food
insecurity." Even as it stands WITH government & volunteer efforts to
paliate hunger, some reservations report up to one-half their population
suffers from diabetes (as for Navajo & Zuni peoples) & this is directly
related to nutritional deficits, or worsened by nutritional deficits.
Here is a fact-sheet on hunger in America:
http://nuance.dhs.org/lbo-talk/9808/1436.html
I'm sure it's of no interest to you as you wouldn't have ANY of your
opinions on ANYthing if you cared about facts, but some other folks may
find it of value.
-paghat the ratgirl
SMITH29
paghat wrote:
>
~left wing diatribe plus insults deleted~
xxxx
I didn't say the system is perfect and there are exceptions to the rule.
I have always maintained that anything run by the government will not be
as good as a private enterprise.
The Democrat's have had the White House for going on eight years now so
any rebuttal you have is only to the discredit to the Democrats running
the show.
If we have citizens in as bad a shape as the Paghat alludes to in her
emotional text then we should have even more reason to throw the
Democrats out.
Just the other day AlGore said "We need to do something about the public
schools."
Al is absolutely correct. My question is, what have they been doing
during the present administration beside the obvious?
On the TV we see the ads to send money down to some Andean country
because little Julie is starving, ( camera cuts to a little girl sitting
at the table with an empty plate in front of her. The little girl looks
up at the camera with a forelorn look of hunger, desperation and
absolutely no future at all.) The ad is enough to tear your heart out
and you want to send her money every month.
Send money to P.O. Box 11109019309402149
How come we don't see ads for the starving kids in this country?
A few months ago I replaced the cook stove in the kitchen with one of
those glass top units from G.E..
I removed a working unit and set it in the garage. Called Goodwill and
they said it had to be in perfect working order and clean as a pin
before they would come look at it.
It needs a burner so I will throw it in the metal scrap even though it
has 3 working elements and a nice working oven. So much for needy
Americans.
Every year the Mexicans sneak into the Yakima valley to pick the fruit
the lazy locals think is beneath there dignity.
The farmers let them sleep in the fields under the stars ( how romantic
) with no facilities at all save for porta potties that are not properly
maintained and stink to high heaven. The locals pull the welfare checks
and the Mexicans slave in the hot sun with no medical benefits or
retirement funds. How can this be?
Did the Clinton administration do anything about this? They probably
don't even know it goes on.
I have worked in the orchards with the Mexicans and they are a happy lot
with happy kids and don't complain. They are happy to be able to work
and get paid. In my years working the fruit I saw one Indian family and
we had to throw them out because they were picking cherries with a new
Dodge D-500 hard top and the orchard owner didn't like that very much as
they would spread out blankets under the tree and ram the tree with the
Dodge to knock the cherries off.
Along with the workers comes the drugs and tons of it. The Clinton's
don't care a damn about it either. They refused pleas from the mayor for
help and the valley is a damn drug pile.
Screw the Democrat's I say.
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SMITH29
paghat wrote:
>
> And in a world where more & more of the food production is completely
> controlled by agribusiness, access to sufficient amounts of food for a
> whole family is a growing rather than diminishing problem.
>
xxxx
I get a kick out of the guy that has three or more welfare families. He
made most of the kids and lives with each family for a little while
keeping "her" full of sperm then moves over to the next "wife" for a
while. Course the welfare won't pay benefits if he is living there cause
that's his responsibility so he stays on the move and if he works he can
pocket all the money and let us pay the bills. He might drive a new
luxury car if he peddles drugs and if he goes to jail all he misses is
the poon and the drugs/booze. We continue to pay for his families all
along so jail is just an inconvenience.
The gals continue to have kids so they get more money and she can't work
because of the kids. We pay for everything and mow her lawn too. She
won't get fixed because that's against her religion. He won't get fixed
because if he shoots blanks he is worthless to the scam. She gotta have
kids till she dries up.
Agribusiness my ass!
29
goodo...@webbworks.com
Cut for time reasons.
Hey, in Wenatchee, we have set up a migrant center where they can stay
for free during the harvest. It costs the state something like $140
per person. I've heard it said, that we would be better off giving
them a motel room with food from local restaurants. Go figure.
Then, consider the Corona displays at all the minimarkets.
They get free housing, they can buy their own beer...
Makes me wanna puke. We need to get rid of Governor Gary "Grid" Locke
in November.
SMITH29
goodo...@webbworks.com wrote:
>
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 19:06:11 GMT, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote:
>
> Cut for time reasons.
>
> Hey, in Wenatchee, we have set up a migrant center where they can stay
> for free during the harvest. It costs the state something like $140
> per person. I've heard it said, that we would be better off giving
> them a motel room with food from local restaurants. Go figure.
>
> Then, consider the Corona displays at all the minimarkets.
> They get free housing, they can buy their own beer...
>
> Makes me wanna puke. We need to get rid of Governor Gary "Grid" Locke
> in November.
> ---
> Founder of Fathers Against Chickenshit Talk Shows (FACTS)
>
xxx
I like Gary but his socialistic ways are so expensive..
Yakima has no set up for transient labor that I know of yet.
So the state pays for the labor housing and that amounts to us
subsidizing the fruit farmers because they can't afford to do it because
of WTO pressure from New Zealand for apples and China for cherries.
That amounts to a false economy because the farmers are not self
sufficient.
Yeah, lets give Locke the boot.
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jtm...@my-deja.com
SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote:
>
>
> paghat wrote:
> >
> > And in a world where more & more of the food production is
completely
> > controlled by agribusiness, access to sufficient amounts of food
for a
> > whole family is a growing rather than diminishing problem.
> >
>
> I get a kick out of the guy that has three or more welfare families.
He
> made most of the kids and lives with each family for a little while
> keeping "her" full of sperm then moves over to the next "wife" for a
> while. Course the welfare won't pay benefits if he is living there
cause
> that's his responsibility so he stays on the move and if he works he
can
> pocket all the money and let us pay the bills. He might drive a new
> luxury car if he peddles drugs and if he goes to jail all he misses is
> the poon and the drugs/booze. We continue to pay for his families all
> along so jail is just an inconvenience.
> The gals continue to have kids so they get more money and she can't
work
> because of the kids. We pay for everything and mow her lawn too. She
> won't get fixed because that's against her religion. He won't get
fixed
> because if he shoots blanks he is worthless to the scam. She gotta
have
> kids till she dries up.
> Agribusiness my ass!
> 29
>
Oh it's a beautiful thing Smitty... About 30 years ago this would have
been unthinkable. Now it's an honorable pursuit of the American dream..
Free food money, Vote Democrat!
Free school-money, gas money, rent money, free health, free medical,
free free free free! Whoopee!!! I'm gonna lay around the house, watch
soap-operas, get fucked and have me some WELFARE! Oh Lordy..
Summertime, and the livin' is easy;
Welfare is jumpin' and entitlements high.
Your daddy's rich but yo' babies are starvin'
So hush little welfare Mamma don't you cry
One of these mornin's you're gonna wake up pregnant
You're gonna spread your legs and your dollar amount will be high.
But til that mornin' ain't nothin' can harm you
With your Bubba & your Algore standin' by
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
jtm...@my-deja.com
"AM" <aa...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> The best line of the Democratic Convention so far has been Joseph
Lieberman
> explaining that "Republicans believe that the best way to feed the
birds is
> to give more oats to the horse."
>
> That about sums it up.
>
> AM
Hi AM-Ray, I'd almost forgotten what a dumb-ass you are.
The democrats believe the best way to feed the birds is to give more
free oats programs to the birds, the cattle, horses, dogs, cats, pigs,
chickens, sheep, and to teach them how to beg for oats on a daily basis
for the rest of their lives.
*That* about sums it up.
Hey I see your Clinton is in legal trouble again wow.. *gasp*
Although for some reason I think you guys see all the Legal charges as
evidence of Clintons virtue.. *puke* *gag*....
DrPostman
>Hey I see your Clinton is in legal trouble again wow.. *gasp*
You don't think that will backfire on Republicans? The timing makes
it look obvious, and a LOT of people just want all that crap about his
sex life to go away. To keep harping on it will not make people vote
for the Republicans. I'm disgusted with both parties, even more with
this constant anger over Bill and his blow jobs.
SMITH29
DrPostman wrote:
>
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:03:41 GMT, jtm...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >Hey I see your Clinton is in legal trouble again wow.. *gasp*
>
> You don't think that will backfire on Republicans? The timing makes
> it look obvious, and a LOT of people just want all that crap about his
> sex life to go away. To keep harping on it will not make people vote
> for the Republicans. I'm disgusted with both parties, even more with
> this constant anger over Bill and his blow jobs.
>
xx
People continue to be angry because Bill should have resigned over that
suck.
It will follow him for the rest of his life.
I think Hillary is gonna give him the boot.
All this for one slurpy.
Tsk, Tsk.
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goodo...@webbworks.com
>In article <399C60F6...@home.com>,
> SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> paghat wrote:
>> >
>> > And in a world where more & more of the food production is
>completely
>> > controlled by agribusiness, access to sufficient amounts of food
>for a
>> > whole family is a growing rather than diminishing problem.
>> >
At first it's funny. Then I think about it. Too true to be funny.
Chuckless
---
Founder of Fathers Against Chickenshit Talk Shows (FACTS)
In the beginning I was sad when Art Bell converted his
SMITH29
goodo...@webbworks.com wrote:
>
> At first it's funny. Then I think about it. Too true to be funny.
> Chuckless
> ---
> Founder of Fathers Against Chickenshit Talk Shows (FACTS)
>
xxxx
The latest word to catch hold is "entitlement".
The Democrat plan is quite clear.
Big government
Forced public school participation
Reworked tax plan to rip off the well to do.
Socialized medicine
Cork guns for the military.
Gun confiscation
WTO
You can bet the farm the Gore's sent there kids to public school......
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goodo...@webbworks.com
wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:03:41 GMT, jtm...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>
>>Hey I see your Clinton is in legal trouble again wow.. *gasp*
>
>
>You don't think that will backfire on Republicans? The timing makes
>it look obvious, and a LOT of people just want all that crap about his
>sex life to go away. To keep harping on it will not make people vote
>for the Republicans. I'm disgusted with both parties, even more with
>this constant anger over Bill and his blow jobs.
The guy who wrote the story would not reveal his source. However, he
would say who didn't release it. I heard Shawn Hennedy say on Neal
Boortz' show that the RNC did not release that story. They both
believe the Whitehouse released it, trying to make the R's look bad.
I wouldn't doubt that. That would not be the first time it's
happened.. Just a thought...
---
Founder of Fathers Against Chickenshit Talk Shows (FACTS)
In the beginning I was sad when Art Bell converted his
AM
> In article <8nh25k$p0v$1...@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>,
> "AM" <aa...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > The best line of the Democratic Convention so far has been Joseph
> > Lieberman explaining that "Republicans believe that the best way to
> > feed the birds is to give more oats to the horse."
> >
> > That about sums it up.
> >
> > AM
>
>
> Hi AM-Ray, I'd almost forgotten what a dumb-ass you are.
Hey - - - you're the Republican.
> The democrats believe the best way to feed the birds is to give more
> free oats programs to the birds, the cattle, horses, dogs, cats, pigs,
> chickens, sheep, and to teach them how to beg for oats on a daily basis
> for the rest of their lives.
From the look of that gut, you have learned all to well.
> *That* about sums it up.
It sums up to one fat yahoo.
> Hey I see your Clinton is in legal trouble again wow.. *gasp*
Yeah - - - like Republicans never have sex.
> Although for some reason I think you guys see all the Legal charges as
> evidence of Clintons virtue.. *puke* *gag*....
You seem all too *intimately* familiar with the "matter."
What ever happened to your little messiah fantasy, by the way? Consumed by
your burning "Bush," was it, or were the tablets just too heavy for a fat
boy to carry?
AM
goodo...@webbworks.com
<ClaviusNo...@gte.net> wrote:
>Yeah!!! *Fuck* the kids and their sodding health care!!! We got *planes*
>to buy!!!
>
>GWB's the candidate for you, all right.
>
>Jim
Planes? You must mean military. Do you want China to move in and
dictate what you do and when you do it, Jim? The children are not that
hungry. There re options that you find revolting. Like churches.
Oh, why should my kids listen to lectures about the Bible, to get a
meal? What's more important? Let the Govment do it... Ya, right.
Did you hear Gore's big lie? Strongest military? What a farce. We
can't keep good military people, because of our world police policy.
Hey, what about the Cruise missiles? Our military is in shambles,
Clave. It starts at the top. Gore is only a Clinton clone. Nothing
will change, if he is made president. Scarey to me, I suppose it's "So
what" to you.
Vic
goodo...@webbworks.com
> I am constantly amazed at how self righteous and arrogant many
>exmembers of the military are when it comes to anybody else getting
>special government benefits.
Those self righteous and arrogant emembers of the military were there
doing what you weren't. For far less than the "Going Wage."
They worked 80-100+ hours per week (if not more).
>I've known military men who retired from an interesting military career
>at the age of forty three, they get regular raises in their pensions,
>special prices for items at military stores, all of their own, and their
>family's medical and dental expenses paid, while never having produced
>or made a dime, on their own, for the first twenty years of their
>career.
Hey, you try having a 4:00 AM to 8:00 AM duty watch, 8:00 to 4:00 work
hours then 4:00-8:00 PM duty watch seven days per week sometime, you
ungrateful rabble.
>In their early forties they are able to get second careers, if they
>choose, and retire again. If they prefer, they don't have to work
>another day in their life.
They paid for that with 20 of the best years of life (an option that
is open to anyone wise enough to accept the discipline).
>Many of these men never saw action.
They were still available. They fullfilled their commitment, something
you don't seem to understand.
>hey were born healthy so they have
>no idea what it is like to be sick. I know of one complete jerk, who
>gets two grand a month because he lost one good eye.
In the performance of their military duties? I've heard of civilians
who got more than a million dollars for spilling hot coffee in their
laps...
>Their is no civilian insurance that would give anybody two grand
>per month for the rest of their life for loosing an eye.
That sounds like at least a 50% disability for defending your ass so
you can continue to put them down. What's wrong here?
>They disdain socialism, yet they made their life, and thrived, living
>and working in a socialist and totalitarian system within our own
>"capitalist" system.
I doubt you could survive bootcamp. We owe those people, dude.
Believe me, it's a shitty job, but thank God for Lifers.
>How could they rationally begrudge others similar privilege?
They earned their benefits. Did the "others?"
>--
>Dick Cheney, before he dicks you!
Al Gore *IS* a risky scheme.
goodo...@webbworks.com
<jtNOj...@untool.net.invalid> wrote:
>Wow brilliant post dumb-ass... I love how you share the
>ruminations of your idiot-mind. it's better than a geek-show.
>
>I should have known you used to be a Senior Editor for Janes
>Information Group.
I see what you mean, JT. Now I know that TWA Flight 800 was brought
down by missiles. His logic...
I just know Senator Randolph is holding back the good stuff...
Senator Chuck
goodo...@webbworks.com
>
>
>goodo...@webbworks.com wrote:
>>
>> At first it's funny. Then I think about it. Too true to be funny.
>> Chuckless
>> ---
>> Founder of Fathers Against Chickenshit Talk Shows (FACTS)
>>
>xxxx
>The latest word to catch hold is "entitlement".
>
>The Democrat plan is quite clear.
>Big government
>Forced public school participation
>Reworked tax plan to rip off the well to do.
>Socialized medicine
>Cork guns for the military.
>Gun confiscation
>WTO
>
>You can bet the farm the Gore's sent there kids to public school......
>29
According to Boortz, the largest block of people who send their kids
to private schools are public school teachers. Not doctors, lawyers,
and the like. The one's in the know, you know?
Clave
news:399d7201....@news.uswest.net...
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:08:55 GMT, "Clave"
> <ClaviusNo...@gte.net> wrote:
>
>
> >Yeah!!! *Fuck* the kids and their sodding health care!!! We got
*planes*
> >to buy!!!
> >
> >GWB's the candidate for you, all right.
> >
> >Jim
>
> Planes? You must mean military. Do you want China to move in and
> dictate what you do and when you do it, Jim? The children are not that
> hungry. There re options that you find revolting. Like churches.
> Oh, why should my kids listen to lectures about the Bible, to get a
> meal? What's more important? Let the Govment do it... Ya, right.
> Did you hear Gore's big lie? Strongest military? What a farce. We
> can't keep good military people, because of our world police policy.
> Hey, what about the Cruise missiles? Our military is in shambles,
> Clave. It starts at the top. Gore is only a Clinton clone. Nothing
> will change, if he is made president. Scarey to me, I suppose it's "So
> what" to you.
For chrissakes, Vic, read the thread.
Jim
DrPostman
>According to Boortz, the largest block of people who send their kids
>to private schools are public school teachers. Not doctors, lawyers,
>and the like. The one's in the know, you know?
Who is Boortz?
goodo...@webbworks.com
wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 18:40:37 GMT, goodo...@webbworks.com wrote:
>
>
>>According to Boortz, the largest block of people who send their kids
>>to private schools are public school teachers. Not doctors, lawyers,
>>and the like. The one's in the know, you know?
>Who is Boortz?
Check out www.boortz.com
Then click on Nealz newz
You won't agree with everything, but you'll get some new perspectives,
for sure!!
Check out his radio show if possible, Jamie. He's Libertarian, and he
doesn't let any major issue go unnoticed.
Hope this helps. I also hope you can hear his stations repeat tonight,
on the internet. WSB - Atlanta.
Vic
SMITH29
paghat wrote:
> Here is a fact-sheet on hunger in America:
> http://nuance.dhs.org/lbo-talk/9808/1436.html
> -paghat the ratgirl
xxx
You should give ole Al a call and ask him what the hell they been doin
the last 7.5 years.
YourPal
29
SMITH29
xxx
Yer mom wears army boots.\
29
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
> I am constantly amazed at how self righteous and arrogant many
>exmembers of the military are when it comes to anybody else getting
>special government benefits.
Well, fuck me. This was a MOST enlightening post, Randolph. I mean, I already
knew you were an ignorant, Pinko-Commie dickhead, but I didn't know you were
completely out of your fucking mind! You've managed to hide that so well, until
now. Sit down, pay attention, and shut the fuck up.
>
>I've known military men who retired from an interesting military career
>at the age of forty three, they get regular raises in their pensions,
>special prices for items at military stores, all of their own, and their
>family's medical and dental expenses paid, while never having produced
>or made a dime, on their own, for the first twenty years of their
>career.
I, I, I don't even know where to begin. You're lack of knowledge of military
life is astounding. An "interesting military career"? I'll tell you
"interesting". What's "interesting" is, military personnel are NEVER truly "off
duty". Did you know that? Probably not. It's not exactly something they
mention in the TV commercials, but it's true. Just because you may not be
standing watch at some given moment, you are always subject to a little thing
known as a "recall". "Interesting" is when you're just snuggling up to some
nice nookie, when your First Sergeant decides to inform you that you have
exactly one hour to be showered, shaved, dressed, and assembled in formation,
with full arctic gear, ready to deploy. Or else. And, you get $1100 EVERY
MONTH(uh, before taxes, that is)!!! WOOO-HOOO!!!! I'm rich, I'm rich, I'm
rich! You couldn't have even made it through Air Force Basic Training, not on
your best day, and that's not even really the military.
What, exactly, is your problem? Do you think the military is some grand party,
and you're pissed that you didn't get invited? Free clue: Hollywood is NOT
your best source of information, on military life. It ain't Gomer Pyle, and it
ain't Full Metal Jacket.
>In their early forties they are able to get second careers, if they
>choose, and retire again. If they prefer, they don't have to work
>another day in their life.
You don't know fuck-all about military retirements, either, do you? Care to
take a wild guess about who gets fucked first, every time some congressman wants
to make the budget figures look a little better? Military retirees, that's who.
A little chip here, a cut there, a co-payment over here, a "user fee" over
there. Fuck 'em, they won't notice, and even if they do, they're the real
patriots in this country, and they won't whine TOO loud, as long as we can
convince them it's for "the good of the country". Never mind that they were
PROMISED those meager benefits, in exchange for their service. "Don't have to
work another day in their life." Hoo-boy. That's rich. "I say, Margaret, have
Jeeves bring the limo around. There's a new shipment of caviar at the
commissary, and we're out of brie, again. Oh, and have the house-boy polish up
my good leg, for the soiree, tonight."
>Many of these men never saw action.
Are you implying that we should only pay retirees who "saw action", whatever
that's supposed to mean? That's fucking brilliant! Hey, look, everybody,
Randolph's saved the country! We should give him a medal, or something!
>They were born healthy so they have no idea what it is like to be sick.
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Do you even know? I sure as hell
don't. Tell you what, next time you have two or three days that you can afford
to spend without moving, trip off down to the doctor's office and get a yellow
fever vaccination, the same one that every military member gets. If you can do
that and still tell me they "have no idea what it is like to be sick", I'll eat
my hat.
>I know of one complete jerk, who
>gets two grand a month because he lost one good eye. Their is no
>civilian insurance that would give anybody two grand per month for the
>rest of their life for loosing an eye.
If you think two grand a month for the loss of an eye is excessive, you have
some seriously fucked up priorities, Randolph. Put it this way, what if it was
YOUR eye? Hmm?
>
>They disdain socialism, yet they made their life, and thrived, living
>and working in a socialist and totalitarian system within our own
>"capitalist" system.
>
>How could they rationally begrudge others similar privilege?
The most "interesting" thing of all is, even though they know they are giving up
so much, and getting so little in return, and that there are so many,
ungrateful, whiny-assed, useless momma's boys out there, whose "contribution"
consists of criticizing, ridiculing, and even hating them for it, they still do
it anyway. Don't worry, though. They know what you are, within seconds. A
military man can smell bullshit a mile away.
The military IS totalitarian, and that's the only way it should EVER be. The
buck has to stop somewhere, and someone has to take responsibility. You might
prefer we have a military by consensus, but that's because you don't know what
the hell you're talking about, that's all.
So, fuck you, Randolph, and the pink little donkey you rode in on. You make
such a lovely couple.
--
V.G.
(This sig file contains not less than 80% recycled SPAM)
"When we write songs, everyone plays everything they can get away with, until someone says, 'That sucks!'" - Stephen Carpenter, Deftones
jtm...@my-deja.com
"Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)" <vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> wrote in
message news:qncspsg991um9g4uv...@4ax.com...
Hmm Why do I get the impression this a slam on the Deftones.
At any rate.. Check out White Pony, Deftones latest release.
If you are in your vehicle when track 9 comes up, you might wanna put
your seatbelt on ;>
V.G. the remainder of your rant was awesome.. I never replied to Pee
Jay's post because it was just a troll, Pee-Jay has this thing about
virile males, and authority figures. His disdain of Police, Military
and authority figures in general, is a function of his profound lack of
Self-worth and poor self-image. (because he is not capable of
attracting a potential mate he loathes himself and through indirect
passive aggression he expresses contempt for all alpha male types)
As he is reading this, he is skipping over the words very quickly so as
not to absorb any of the actual content. (He's not capable of ignoring
it, yet the truth of the message is so profound that his defense
mechanisms selectively "deaden" the message and allow him to "gloss"
over the painful trVth.
Understanding the tortured workings of PeeJays simple mind has been a
joy, as I have been able to send him into violent and meteoric fits of
frenzy, by tweaking his miniscule Non-Testosterone producing neuticals
many times to great effect!
I would like to see PeeJay post the link to his webpage more often so
we can visit the fun-house of his mind, replete with Poems of spurned
sexual advances and unrequited love. Oh and twirling purple banana
banners, too. (can't forget them twirling bananas) ;>
I wonder if that page was the "DOTCOM" that he was "Involved with the
Start-Up" of...
You may have noticed that I've eased off on the worm lately... This is
because of the instability he has shown recently, (when he was making
the kooky allegations of phone harassment.)
See the big key to the whole Pee Jay thing is that he's incredibly
stupid, and a (poor)pathological liar..
Consider his posting history..
-The Bartender at a Nudist Colony
-The Dot-Com Start-Up guy....
-His Career as a big Remote Sensing expert.
-The way he refers to himself as a "Whiskey drinkin', Wildman".
-The way he constantly solicits sympathy for his plethora of maladies.
It all adds up to... *cough* Loser...
When you put him through the paces he flares, fizzles and then gets
unstable and you wind up feeling sorry for the lil' bugger.
It wouldn't be appropriate for me to disclose the juiciest bits of info
about PeeJay, so I'm only relating what I've observed here on AFA-B...
He's a *mess* but anyone that's ever read one of his posts understands
that...
I'm thinking of fixating on AB next,(as he appears to have his very own
basket of "issues") -but I think I'm gonna wait and see what happens
with the whole Lion Rock thing. -Cap
SMITH29
xxxxx
You guys are in a bad mood?
Randy never served so he is jealous of who did. I cut him some slack on
that but not lot. I just as soon leave him with his glorious ideas of
the fantastic military life we had spending his money and flying around
in billion dollar patrol planes basking in air conditioned luxury with
beach liberty every night....
Anybody remember Capt. Skip Brunhaver?
He was a Viet war prisoner for years. They shot him down. He didn't get
the heros welcome Sen.McCain did but Skip is a typical American who
served and don't back down.
He was in my high school graduation class and we knew each other well.
He's around the area working like the rest of us. I'm proud of him. He
didn't suck pot like some did.
Probably saved his life. You can't fight stoned..
As for Lion Rock, I can hardly wait!!!!
29
>
DrPostman
<vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
>rich! You couldn't have even made it through Air Force Basic Training, not on
>your best day, and that's not even really the military.
HEY! Just cause we were given 6 weeks to work up to a mile and a
half, at one quarter mile increments, didn't mean that it was all THAT
easy. My DI yelled at me A LOT! Hurt my feelings regularly. I was
so scared of Basic that I didn't realize until the last week that it
was almost enjoyable. I did manage to make Honor Grad - Ghod know
how.
>What, exactly, is your problem? Do you think the military is some grand party,
>and you're pissed that you didn't get invited? Free clue: Hollywood is NOT
>your best source of information, on military life. It ain't Gomer Pyle, and it
>ain't Full Metal Jacket.
It wasn't too far from McHale's Navy though.
>You don't know fuck-all about military retirements, either, do you?
This would probably be a bad time to mention that my military time
counts towards my Postal Service time for retirement and vacation
purposes. Yea, better not bring that up.
BTW - well ranted. What civilians don't understand is that during my
service my country could have ordered me to do something that would
have gotten me killed and I would have had fuck all to say about it
other than "Yes, Sir!". I went in knowing this and would have done
it if required.
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
>On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:32:21 -0800, "Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)"
><vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
>
>
>>rich! You couldn't have even made it through Air Force Basic Training, not on
>>your best day, and that's not even really the military.
>
>HEY! Just cause we were given 6 weeks to work up to a mile and a
>half, at one quarter mile increments, didn't mean that it was all THAT
>easy. My DI yelled at me A LOT! Hurt my feelings regularly. I was
>so scared of Basic that I didn't realize until the last week that it
>was almost enjoyable. I did manage to make Honor Grad - Ghod know
>how.
>
>
>>What, exactly, is your problem? Do you think the military is some grand party,
>>and you're pissed that you didn't get invited? Free clue: Hollywood is NOT
>>your best source of information, on military life. It ain't Gomer Pyle, and it
>>ain't Full Metal Jacket.
>
>It wasn't too far from McHale's Navy though.
>
On further reflection, I've decided that discussing military issues with JP is
like discussing chemistry with an eggplant, and I won't be wasting any more of
my time, that way. I have LOTS of other ways to waste my time, and they are far
more satisfying.
SMITH29
DrPostman wrote:
>
> This would probably be a bad time to mention that my military time
> counts towards my Postal Service time for retirement and vacation
> purposes. Yea, better not bring that up.
>
> BTW - well ranted. What civilians don't understand is that during my
> service my country could have ordered me to do something that would
> have gotten me killed and I would have had fuck all to say about it
> other than "Yes, Sir!". I went in knowing this and would have done
> it if required.
xxx
Air Farce eigh! I knew something was wrong with you.
Air conditioned quarters.
Had your own room.
Sickening
29
Clave
news:399F581C...@home.com...
<...>
> Air Farce eigh! I knew something was wrong with you.
> Air conditioned quarters.
> Had your own room.
> Sickening
So you prefer sharing a room with a bunch of men.
Explains a lot.
Jim
Clave
> You know that, don't you?
Sick??? Because I don't want to bunk with a bunch of guys???
<snort>
With your own words speaking for you, I don't know why I bother making fun
of you at all.
Jim
jtm...@my-deja.com
"Clave" <ClaviusNo...@gte.net> wrote:
> "SMITH29" <smi...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:399F5F29...@home.com...
> >
> >
> > Clave wrote:
> > >
> > > "SMITH29" <smi...@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:399F581C...@home.com...
> > >
> > > <...>
> > >
> > > > Air Farce eigh! I knew something was wrong with you.
> > > > Air conditioned quarters.
> > > > Had your own room.
> > > > Sickening
> > >
> > > So you prefer sharing a room with a bunch of men.
> > >
> > > Explains a lot.
> >
> > You're sick!!
> > You know that, don't you?
>
> Sick??? Because I don't want to bunk with a bunch of guys???
>
> <snort>
>
> With your own words speaking for you, I don't know why I bother
making fun
> of you at all.
>
> Jim
The premise was simplistic and immature, but it was an o.k. fag-bash
I guess, got any nigger jokes Clave? *gasp*!
SMITH29
Clave wrote:
>
> "SMITH29" <smi...@home.com> wrote in message
> news:399F5F29...@home.com...
> >
> >
> > Clave wrote:
> > >
> > > "SMITH29" <smi...@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:399F581C...@home.com...
> > >
> > > <...>
> > >
> > > > Air Farce eigh! I knew something was wrong with you.
> > > > Air conditioned quarters.
> > > > Had your own room.
> > > > Sickening
> > >
> > > So you prefer sharing a room with a bunch of men.
> > >
> > > Explains a lot.
> >
> > You're sick!!
> > You know that, don't you?
>
> Sick??? Because I don't want to bunk with a bunch of guys???
>
> <snort>
>
> With your own words speaking for you, I don't know why I bother making fun
> of you at all.
>
> Jim
xxxx
Gee golly whizz!! Clave made a funny about military life.
Something he comes across as knowing nothing about.
29
SMITH29
xxx
You're sick!!
You know that, don't you?
29
AB
>> > >
>> > > <...>
>> > >
>> > > > Air Farce eigh! I knew something was wrong with you.
>> > > > Air conditioned quarters.
>> > > > Had your own room.
>> > > > Sickening
>> > >
>> > > So you prefer sharing a room with a bunch of men.
>> > >
>> > > Explains a lot.
>> >
>> > You're sick!!
>> > You know that, don't you?
>>
>> Sick??? Because I don't want to bunk with a bunch of guys???
>>
>Something he comes across as knowing nothing about.
If it moves, salute it.
If it doesn't move, pick it up.
If you can't pick it up, paint it.
Friend of a friend is real smart, but not that bright. When he enlisted in
the Navy, they looked at his scores, gave him a crypto box and a Thermite
grenade and said, "If anything happens, you can't let the enemy get this
box, so set the grenade on it and set it off." They put him on a ship in a
little room. Eventually, he feels this great rumbling and thumping and
creaking. The ship is under attack! He dutifully sets off the grenade and
destroys the box just before an officer comes down to tell him that the
ship's now underway and would he kindly bring his box up to the radio room?
They put him behind a desk after that.
Another buddy of mine spent his Air Force career in a missile silo.
Locked-down for days, no media. They pick the guys with low boredom
thresholds and even lower brows. At one point, an officer on watch, sitting
naked in the control room, accidentally discharged his service pistol into
the launch panel, set off all sorts of alarms. Quite a sight when the whole
crew arrived. Military court was NOT amused.
As much as I regret not enlisting, I STILL won't kill on anyone's orders
but my own. I guess that makes me a Libertarian Conscientious Objector.
Feller over on alt.peeves sez he just picked up a 60's surplus whaleboat for
$3,000. Something like 75 hours on the Diesel. I'm holding out for an AM
General truck or a Unimog.
--
drop ego to email me
DrPostman
news:399F581C...@home.com...
>xx
>Air Farce eigh! I knew something was wrong with you.
>Air conditioned quarters.
>Had your own room.
>Sickening
>29
Oddly similar to Millington NAS, where you were stationed.
Your self loathing is showing.
BTW - Millington had a better AFEES than we did at Little Rock AFB
so we'd often go shopping there.
DrPostman
Did you piss them off Smith?
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 04:56:22 GMT, "Clave"
<ClaviusNo...@gte.net> wrote:
>"SMITH29" <smi...@home.com> wrote in message
>news:399F5F29...@home.com...
>>
>>
>> Clave wrote:
>> >
>> > "SMITH29" <smi...@home.com> wrote in message
>> > news:399F581C...@home.com...
>> >
>> > <...>
>> >
>> > > Air Farce eigh! I knew something was wrong with you.
>> > > Air conditioned quarters.
>> > > Had your own room.
>> > > Sickening
>> >
>> > So you prefer sharing a room with a bunch of men.
>> >
>> > Explains a lot.
>>
>> You're sick!!
>> You know that, don't you?
>
>
>Sick??? Because I don't want to bunk with a bunch of guys???
>
><snort>
>
>With your own words speaking for you, I don't know why I bother making fun
>of you at all.
>
>Jim
>
>
Dr.Postman USPS, MBMC, BsD; "Disgruntled, But Unarmed"
SMITH29
DrPostman wrote:
>
> I wonder why smitty's posts are not showing up on Mindspring's server?
> Did you piss them off Smith?
>
xxxx
Not sure what's going on. ATT has had some trouble this week and last
with some nodes and my Usenet was screwed up for days. I wasn't getting
all posts. We were down for most of the morning today.They told me on
the phone that thew were having connections problems with outside links.
Al should fix his invention up better.
29
goodo...@webbworks.com
wrote:
>"SMITH29" <smi...@home.com> wrote in message
>news:399F581C...@home.com...
>
>
>>xx
>>Air Farce eigh! I knew something was wrong with you.
>>Air conditioned quarters.
>>Had your own room.
>>Sickening
>>29
>
>
>Oddly similar to Millington NAS, where you were stationed.
>
>Your self loathing is showing.
>
>
>BTW - Millington had a better AFEES than we did at Little Rock AFB
>so we'd often go shopping there.
AFEES = Armed Forces Entry and Examination Station, right?
That's where you go to take tests and enter the military.
Are you sure you didn't mean commissary or PX or Navy store or
someding?
I joined the Navy at AFEES, Spokane WA...
They put me on a plane to San Diego, and arghhh, Bootcamp :(
SMITH29
goodo...@webbworks.com wrote:
>
> On Sun, 20 Aug 2000 15:05:48 -0500, DrPostman <I...@mysig.emailthere>
> wrote:
>
> >"SMITH29" <smi...@home.com> wrote in message
> >news:399F581C...@home.com...
> >
> >
> >>xx
> >>Air Farce eigh! I knew something was wrong with you.
> >>Air conditioned quarters.
> >>Had your own room.
> >>Sickening
> >>29
> >
> >
> >Oddly similar to Millington NAS, where you were stationed.
> >
> >Your self loathing is showing.
> >
> >
> >BTW - Millington had a better AFEES than we did at Little Rock AFB
> >so we'd often go shopping there.
>
> AFEES = Armed Forces Entry and Examination Station, right?
> That's where you go to take tests and enter the military.
> Are you sure you didn't mean commissary or PX or Navy store or
> someding?
xxx
Maby he liked rectal exams?
>
> I joined the Navy at AFEES, Spokane WA...
> They put me on a plane to San Diego, and arghhh, Bootcamp :(
xxx
Lucky you didn't go to Great Lakes in January!
>
> Vic
> ---
> Founder of Fathers Against Chickenshit Talk Shows (FACTS)
>
xxx
I joined at my duty station NAS Sandpoint and was assigned to a squadron
before going to boot camp at NAS Memphis. Enema city.
The civil rights thing was in full swing. Those southern people were
plum crazy. They shot at the gate guards and threw stuff at Navy
personnel. Driving around with rebel flags on there cars. I hated that
hole. Loved the electronics school, that was great.
I did a 19 week school in 14 so I could get the hell out that crazy
Southern weather and crazy people. Swore I'd never go to Tennessee ever
again. And I didn't.
29
DrPostman
>AFEES = Armed Forces Entry and Examination Station, right?
>That's where you go to take tests and enter the military.
>Are you sure you didn't mean commissary or PX or Navy store or
>someding?
The PX - the USAF and the Navy shared the same system, and I
thought it was AFEES.
DrPostman
>Another buddy of mine spent his Air Force career in a missile silo.
>Locked-down for days, no media. They pick the guys with low boredom
>thresholds and even lower brows. At one point, an officer on watch, sitting
>naked in the control room, accidentally discharged his service pistol into
>the launch panel, set off all sorts of alarms. Quite a sight when the whole
>crew arrived. Military court was NOT amused.
I started a wargaming club at LRAFB and half of our members were
missile crew. They were a really weird bunch. In order to judge
their readiness to "turn the key" for the Big One, they take the
MMPI test. I don't believe that a single test like that can really
tell you much, especially if the person taking it catches on to the
fact that they are asking the same questions with different phrasing
to catch someone.
DrPostman
>I joined at my duty station NAS Sandpoint and was assigned to a squadron
>before going to boot camp at NAS Memphis. Enema city.
>The civil rights thing was in full swing. Those southern people were
>plum crazy. They shot at the gate guards and threw stuff at Navy
>personnel. Driving around with rebel flags on there cars. I hated that
>hole. Loved the electronics school, that was great.
>I did a 19 week school in 14 so I could get the hell out that crazy
>Southern weather and crazy people. Swore I'd never go to Tennessee ever
>again. And I didn't.
>29
Tell the truth, you really miss running with the rednecks.
DrPostman
They must have fixed it.
SMITH29
DrPostman wrote:
>
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 06:44:10 GMT, SMITH29 <smi...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >I joined at my duty station NAS Sandpoint and was assigned to a squadron
> >before going to boot camp at NAS Memphis. Enema city.
> >The civil rights thing was in full swing. Those southern people were
> >plum crazy. They shot at the gate guards and threw stuff at Navy
> >personnel. Driving around with rebel flags on there cars. I hated that
> >hole. Loved the electronics school, that was great.
> >I did a 19 week school in 14 so I could get the hell out that crazy
> >Southern weather and crazy people. Swore I'd never go to Tennessee ever
> >again. And I didn't.
> >29
>
> Tell the truth, you really miss running with the rednecks.
>
XXX
Court martial time if caught.
29
Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)
>On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 03:13:15 GMT, goodo...@webbworks.com wrote:
>
>
>>AFEES = Armed Forces Entry and Examination Station, right?
>>That's where you go to take tests and enter the military.
>>Are you sure you didn't mean commissary or PX or Navy store or
>>someding?
>
>
>The PX - the USAF and the Navy shared the same system, and I
>thought it was AFEES.
AAFES - Army Air Force Exchange Service. Army calls them "Post exchange", or
"PX", for short, and the Air Force calls them "base exchange", or "BX".
Squids (USN, USMC, and USCG) got their own thing happening, known, oddly enough,
as the Navy Exchange.
The exchange systems run small department stores, including ship-board stores,
often with limited selections, but prices are usually a little below the going
local rate, on the things they do have. Not always, though. Elmendorf has a
mini-mall, with the exchange, and several other businesses, run under contract.
Flower shop, computer store, video rental, sometimes a barber shop, that kind of
stuff.
The stores where you buy your uniforms are also part of the exchange system, as
well. We used to drive over to Fort Richardson, to buy all our BDU's, since
they had a much wider selection of sizes, than the USAF store, and they carried
the winter-weight, and summer-weight versions. For our AF-specific uniform
stuff, such as dress blues, ribbons, and what-not, we had to shop at the
Elmendorf store.
The commissaries are all run by one single Defense Commissary Agency, regardless
of where they are located.
DrPostman
<vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 01:20:38 -0500, DrPostman <I...@mysig.emailthere> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 03:13:15 GMT, goodo...@webbworks.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>AFEES = Armed Forces Entry and Examination Station, right?
>>>That's where you go to take tests and enter the military.
>>>Are you sure you didn't mean commissary or PX or Navy store or
>>>someding?
>>
>>
>>The PX - the USAF and the Navy shared the same system, and I
>>thought it was AFEES.
>
>AAFES - Army Air Force Exchange Service. Army calls them "Post exchange", or
>"PX", for short, and the Air Force calls them "base exchange", or "BX".
Yea, I knew we shared it with someone. It's only been 16 years but
I'm already forgetting.
Randy Stiefer
DrPostman wrote in message ...
>On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:09:26 -0800, "Vanilla Gorilla (Monkey Boy)"
><vgor...@pobox.alaska.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 01:20:38 -0500, DrPostman <I...@mysig.emailthere> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 03:13:15 GMT, goodo...@webbworks.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>AFEES = Armed Forces Entry and Examination Station, right?
>>>>That's where you go to take tests and enter the military.
>>>>Are you sure you didn't mean commissary or PX or Navy store or
>>>>someding?
>>>
>>>
>>>The PX - the USAF and the Navy shared the same system, and I
>>>thought it was AFEES.
>>
>>AAFES - Army Air Force Exchange Service. Army calls them "Post exchange", or
>>"PX", for short, and the Air Force calls them "base exchange", or "BX".
>
>
>Yea, I knew we shared it with someone. It's only been 16 years but
>I'm already forgetting.
Maybe it's been 23 years.
kristine
<c...@onr.com> wrote:
> Maybe it's been 23 years.
hey randy, feel free to not respond to every written word by postman.
--
kristine
queen of the undead afab army
* * * * * * * *
i'm an agent of satan, but my duties are mostly ceremonial
DrPostman
Nope, not a chance.
DrPostman
(kristine) wrote:
>In article <WdJo5.81$wy2.114...@news.onr.com>, "Randy Stiefer"
><c...@onr.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Maybe it's been 23 years.
>
>hey randy, feel free to not respond to every written word by postman.
His love for me knows no bounds, except in his bondage fantasies.
The horror.
DrPostman
>
>DrPostman wrote in message <1768qske8aj2snhof...@4ax.com>...
>>On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:04:58 GMT, queenk...@thecastle.com
>>(kristine) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <WdJo5.81$wy2.114...@news.onr.com>, "Randy Stiefer"
>>><c...@onr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Maybe it's been 23 years.
>>>
>>>hey randy, feel free to not respond to every written word by postman.
>>
>>
>>
>>His love for me knows no bounds, except in his bondage fantasies.
>>
>>
>>The horror.
>
>
>Turi might consider differing or otherwise not totally agreeing.
>
Yes, he often seldom does.
DrPostman
>Turi might differ.
Turdi ALWAYS differs.
DrPostman
>
>kristine wrote in message ...
>>In article <WdJo5.81$wy2.114...@news.onr.com>, "Randy Stiefer"
>><c...@onr.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Maybe it's been 23 years.
>>
>>hey randy, feel free to not respond to every written word by postman.
>
>
>HEY! I'll have you know that that former booze swilling letter carrier is almost
>single-handedly responsible for running Art Bell out of radio!
>I'll devote my remaining days in this confounded iron lung to countering his
>foul rethoric whereever and
>whenever it surfaces!
Thanks!
The Commentator
>
> That is a sensitive subject. Let Art handle it when he comes back.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> piddy
Except he ain't never coming back. When the hogs eat you,
you say gone.
Randy Stiefer
DrPostman wrote in message <1768qske8aj2snhof...@4ax.com>...
>On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:04:58 GMT, queenk...@thecastle.com
>(kristine) wrote:
>
>>
>
>
>
Randy Stiefer
kristine wrote in message ...
>
HEY! I'll have you know that that former booze swilling letter carrier is almost
single-handedly responsible for running Art Bell out of radio!
I'll devote my remaining days in this confounded iron lung to countering his
foul rethoric whereever and
whenever it surfaces!
>kristine
Randy Stiefer
DrPostman wrote in message ...
Turi might differ.
kristine
<c...@onr.com> wrote:
> HEY! I'll have you know that that former booze swilling letter carrier
is almost
> single-handedly responsible for running Art Bell out of radio!
holy cow...i *knew* postman was good...
--
kristine
<c...@onr.com> wrote:
> I'll devote my remaining days in this confounded iron lung to countering his
> foul rethoric whereever and
> whenever it surfaces!
well as long as you have a hobby.
and i can see that you are keeping it in perspective....
--