Art Bell wake up! Robert Ghostwolf Plastic Indian and Fraud!
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On Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:55:54 GMT, It...@mysig.emailthere (DrPostman) wrote:
> Ghostwolf's real name is Robert Frances Franzone
> (AKA Robert Parry, Bobby Wolfe, and Robert Wolfe)
This site has a picture of him and he doesn't look native-American
to me. More like a scheming Jack Nicholson.
http://www.sonic.net/~west/ghost.htm
R.C.
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Moon
Folks,
This is what the directors of the American Indian Movement (AIM) in
Florida have to say about Robert Ghostwolf's claims on his website.
>I was wondering if any of the AIM members know of this man and have>any
>opinion about his work?
At this time Florida AIM is conducting an inquiry to determine if the
individual belongs, as I would say he does, to be listed as a plastic
medicine
man. He appears not to be Indian.
Don Foster
ALL MUST RESIST SO THAT NONE ARE LEFT BEHIND
American Indian Movement of Florida
State Office
136 4th street N Suite 208
Saint Petersburg, FL 33701
(813) 821-3163
> As many of you know, I am in the Black Hills of South Dakota. I
>m here withElders who are helping to guide me, heal me and keep in >focus the goal I have
> set for myself, the goal Grandfather has set for me
Where in the Khe Sapa, why do you as a Lakota utilize the oppressor's
word for
the place, and which Elders?
>and to bring the message of the Indigenous Wisdoms to the People.
To which people. And who authorized you to bring the "wisdoms" of all
Indigenous peoples to them? How did you learn the "wisdoms" of over
1,000
Nations throughout the Western Hemisphere?
>My Nakota Grandmother, Grandmother Kitty,
What was your unci's last name? So we can confer with the Yankton
Sioux Tribe
and learn of her?
>Grandmother made me promise her, I would bring the Ghost>Dance back to thePeople.
Er Mr. Ghostwolf the Ghost Dance was done again in 1973 by a Sincangu
Wicasa
Wakan whome you should know as a Nakota and you should know where it
occured
and why? You reveal you are not from SD and not a traditionalist with
this.
>I have brought the Ghost>Dance to the People
No that would have occured over 100 years ago. It was returned 25
years ago.
> I have spoken with many Elders >because of this. It
> has been difficult for me to understand why there would be
>conflict over bringng such a strong healing force to the People.
Because it appears you are not what you claim sir. If you could
provide your
family name, which rez, etc and who taught you to be either a pejuta
wicasa or
wicasa wakan and btw which are you claiming.
>Piyamala emello
What does emello mean? I am simply an Iyesaka Ikce Wicasa and am not
familiar
with all of the Oceti Sankowin ways. What is a emello. I have often
heard of
another suffix in saying thank you formally what is emello?
Sheridan Murphy
AIM is then the new warrior class of this century, bound by the bonds
of the
drum, Pipe, Cedar; who vote with their bodies instead of their mouths.
Their
methods are strong. their message is hope their moment is now.
Birgil Kills Straight 1974
>. I am called Ghost Wolf
But what is your name nicaje ki taku he? Tell me Tanhansi, I need to
know so
I can see you as a tanhansi and not as a Tokas.
> I am Metis (me•tā)
Metis is a legal term utilized by Canadian Indian Affairs authorities
and has
no legal, political or social meaning among the Indigenous peoples of
the
Western Hemisphere outside of Kanata.
>e blood of both the Lakota and Haudenosaunee
What Nation. What is your name, who is your family?
>The Lakota have a name for my people; we are the>Wigmunkee Oyate -- theRainbow Nation
Sir, while coming straight from a Lakota dictionary that would make
perfect
sense except that the word Wigmunke is a snare to catch rain. It is a
"rain bow
or a bow used to catch rain. This indicated your use of a dictionary
rather
than speaking the language. further the rain snaring Nation or even
Rainbow
Nation is not one clearly recognized by the Lakota Nation evidenced by
the
stories which discuss the various Oyate's within Lakota spirituality.
>Hunka, the making of>relatives.
Hunka, my friend is an ancestor. Your refering to a ceremony within
the seven
sacred rites called a hunkalowanpi which is the making of relatives.
It is a
sacred ceremony that should not be defiled and ONLY relates to that
particular
family and their ancestors and descendants and does not translate to
other
Indian nations.
>Another part of your journey will be that somehow you are to help
>reconnectthe people of the Condor with the people of the Eagle.
As with your efforts to ressurect the Ghost Dance, you are late.
There have
been many conferences and meetings to do this. In fact the Continental
Encounter Conferences begun in 1990 utilize that symbol.
Sheridan Murphy
AIM is then the new warrior class of this century, bound by the bonds
of the
drum, Pipe, Cedar; who vote with their bodies instead of their mouths.
Their
methods are strong. their message is hope their moment is now.
Birgil Kills Straight 1974
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Also folks check out this website:
There is a very informative website to check
out about this guy. It is a very good website in general and I like
to
recommend it:
<a
href="http://flamestrike.hacks.arizona.edu/~twohorse/two_horses/wanabi.htm
">Wanabi Tribe's Home page </a>
See ya! Beadedweb
From this website, the following information about Robert Ghostwolf:
THE 1998 WANABI AWARDS
The Ripoffs
A note on structure: It's been somewhat difficult to decide what
order to put these people and organizations in, i.e., who is the
slimiest, so I'm just
putting them in order of which "fires" are most in need of
putting out.
Dang, dang, dang!!! I should have been paying a lot closer
attention to this bozo than I was...Visit the website of one Robert
"Ghost Wolf" Franzone,
self-proclaimed spiritualist and "born-again Indian"...I actually
know this clown personally...he used to run his little medicine show
on Orcas Island in
Washington state, back when I lived on the next island over...I
visited his show with some Skagit and Stillaguamish friends back then.
Bob treated us the way
that many Wanabis seem to treat Indians when we ask questions: he
asked us to leave. He moved to Spokane shortly after I met him and
established himself
there in the same format...I received e-mail from some Spokane
Indians regarding him. It seems that they'd asked him some questions
about his family and
tribe, and, oddly enough, were asked to leave . . . hmmm...
Bob is originally from New York and has an extensive criminal
record for guess what? If you guessed fraud, you guessed right...in
California, Oregon,
Nevada and Washington. Bob is now attempting to defraud you, the
Internet user, in the following two ways:
First, watch out for appeals from "Wolf Lodge Cultural
Foundation" seeking cash to "support" the Apaches at San Carlos Indian
Reservation in Arizona. I'm
in touch with the Attorney General of Arizona and the legal
counsel for the San Carlos Apache, and I'm certain there'll be yet
another warrant out for Bob's
arrest soon...
Second, Bob is now preparing to put on a "Ghost Dance" in Montana
(this is what I meant when I said that I should have been keeping a
closer eye on
him...) that will require a "donation" of $110 per person. The
webpages for this event have to be seen to be believed.
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I think it's time for skeptics (and believers too!) of the paranoramal
to make it their business to look at this situation long and hard.
Enough has already been done to rob the nativepeoples of this country
of their lands, and property in the past. Now people like Ghostwolf
want to rob them of their cultural heritage too.
Moon
*New Age* is really just a nice way of saying *Spiritual Mafia*.
DrPostman
Mo...@mirror.org (Moon) wrote:
>Folks,
>
>This is what the directors of the American Indian Movement (AIM) in
>Florida have to say about Robert Ghostwolf's claims on his website.
>
>>I was wondering if any of the AIM members know of this man and have>any
>>opinion about his work?
>
> At this time Florida AIM is conducting an inquiry to determine if the
>individual belongs, as I would say he does, to be listed as a plastic
>medicine
>man. He appears not to be Indian.
>
>
>Don Foster
>
Ghostwolf's real name is Robert Frances Franzone
(AKA Robert Parry, Bobby Wolfe, and Robert Wolfe)
From the following web site:
http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/1997/aug/m25-006.shtml
I don't about a "Henry Franzoni" but one Robert Frances
Franzone is who "Robert Ghost Wolf" is. He has also gone
by the names of Robert Parry, Bobby Wolfe and Robert Wolfe.
He isn't a Native American either; he's Italian. "Robert Ghost
Wolf" is what you call a phony-baloney plastic injun, and yes
he has been on Art Bell a few times. The reason I know all this
is because I'm in touch with some of his past victims he's
scammed. I just forced Franzone to take down the credit
card form on his site (http://wolflodge.org) that he was
using to sell Lori and Len Toye's I AM AMERICA products.
The Toyes had not given him any permission to Franzone
for him to use and exploit their trademarks and copyrights
nor had they given him authorization for him to sell their
products. In addition, I have a fax copy of Len Toye's
"Cease and Desist" order to Franzone, which was
sent to Franzone. Franzone has a longggg history
of conning people and was in deep shit in the
State of California for fraudulent practices. He's
as dirty as they come. Art Bell has been informed
about some of this by Franzone's former girlfriend,
one Judi Koteen Pope, but has apparently chosen not to
investigate Franzone and stupidly believes his "Native
American" bullshit line totally at face value. There
isn't a single drop of Native American blood in all of
Franzone's fat bloated body.
This guy belongs in jail. He's a bunko artist.
Don
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I hope this helps
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David Petersen
Thank you for pointing out the origins of the word Meti to the newsgroup. I
have a very good friend in Saskatchewan who is Meti, and I don't think she
would appreciate ol' Horndog copping the term for his own use.
Iggie Reilly
zxy...@msn.com
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>Moon (mo...@mirror.org) posted
Peter P.
"Moon" --
I tried emailing you with questions about your post, as part of my ongoing
Ghost Wolf investigation.
The email was returned, "user unknown".
Admittedly, I'm at the beginning of the investigation but have so far
found that those making the accusations against Ghost Wolf are as
difficult to substantiate as some of the claims being made. Interesting.
Peter
http://www.m-m.org/jz/prophecy.html
Moon
Peter,
The people you need to email are the one's who made the statements I
posted to this NG. That would be Don and Sheridan, the directors of
florida AIM. They have always been happy to answer questions.
Their email addy is ai...@aol.com hope this helps, these guys have
done a lot of good work for their people in weeding out fraud.
Moon
On Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:55:54 GMT, It...@mysig.emailthere (DrPostman)
wrote:
>From the following web site:
>http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/1997/aug/m25-006.shtml
>
>The reason I know all this
>is because I'm in touch with some of his past victims he's
>scammed. I just forced Franzone to take down the credit
>card form on his site (http://wolflodge.org) that he was
>using to sell Lori and Len Toye's I AM AMERICA products.
Hey there Dr. Postman. GasWolf still accepts credit cards on his
website!
> Franzone has a longggg history
>of conning people and was in deep shit in the
>State of California for fraudulent practices. He's
>as dirty as they come. Art Bell has been informed
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>
>I hope this helps
>--
>SKEP-TI-CULT® member #15-51506-253
>
How about talking your Fearless Leader into putting critical
information such as this on the website?
C++V++X
Jesus, I can't believe this. I knew it was bad, but I didn't know it
was criminal. If Art doesn't stop this thing with Franzone, Art could
be an accessory. Good contribution Postman. Just the facts, without
an ax to grind.
On Mon, 29 Jun 1998 20:55:54 GMT, It...@mysig.emailthere (DrPostman)
wrote:
>Mo...@mirror.org (Moon) wrote:
>
>>Folks,
>>
>>This is what the directors of the American Indian Movement (AIM) in
>>Florida have to say about Robert Ghostwolf's claims on his website.
>>
>>>I was wondering if any of the AIM members know of this man and have>any
>>>opinion about his work?
>>
>> At this time Florida AIM is conducting an inquiry to determine if the
>>individual belongs, as I would say he does, to be listed as a plastic
>>medicine
>>man. He appears not to be Indian.
>>
>>
>>Don Foster
>>
>Ghostwolf's real name is Robert Frances Franzone
>(AKA Robert Parry, Bobby Wolfe, and Robert Wolfe)
>
>From the following web site:
>http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/1997/aug/m25-006.shtml
>
>I don't about a "Henry Franzoni" but one Robert Frances
>Franzone is who "Robert Ghost Wolf" is. He has also gone
>by the names of Robert Parry, Bobby Wolfe and Robert Wolfe.
>He isn't a Native American either; he's Italian. "Robert Ghost
>Wolf" is what you call a phony-baloney plastic injun, and yes
>he has been on Art Bell a few times. The reason I know all this
>is because I'm in touch with some of his past victims he's
>scammed. I just forced Franzone to take down the credit
>card form on his site (http://wolflodge.org) that he was
>using to sell Lori and Len Toye's I AM AMERICA products.
>The Toyes had not given him any permission to Franzone
>for him to use and exploit their trademarks and copyrights
>nor had they given him authorization for him to sell their
>products. In addition, I have a fax copy of Len Toye's
>"Cease and Desist" order to Franzone, which was
>sent to Franzone. Franzone has a longggg history
>of conning people and was in deep shit in the
>State of California for fraudulent practices. He's
>as dirty as they come. Art Bell has been informed
>about some of this by Franzone's former girlfriend,
>one Judi Koteen Pope, but has apparently chosen not to
>investigate Franzone and stupidly believes his "Native
>American" bullshit line totally at face value. There
>isn't a single drop of Native American blood in all of
>Franzone's fat bloated body.
>
>This guy belongs in jail. He's a bunko artist.
>
>Don
>--------------------end copy from web site------------------
>
>I hope this helps
>--
>