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The Commentator

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Oct 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/8/97
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Spencer W Hunter wrote:
>
> David Adair might want to work on the following the next time
> he appears on Art Bell's show, which any genius 17-year-old fusion
> rocket designer should know how to pronounce:
>
> exponential
> tritium
> Stephen Hawking
> (does anyone else refer to this man as "Steffan?")
>
> I'm also surprized that someone of of Adair's apparent breadth and
> depth of knowledge had never heard of Alan Turing.
>
> Adair also refers listeners to a non-existent book in the closing
> moments of Art's show for a schematic of his rocket engine, _The
> Future of Energy_ published by the AAAS in 1973. He probably means
> _Energy and the Future_ by Hammond, Metz, and Maugh (Washington:
> AAAS, 1973), which does have an illustration of magnetic fusion
> confinement that is usually depicted elsewhere in the popular press
> in far greater detail. However, there are no illustrations of the
> "figuure eight" confinement pattern Adair spoke about, nor is there
> anything in the book that even remotely resembles a rocket engine.
>
> I personally would rate Adair's credibility somewhere down there
> with Sean David Morton and Mel, I'm afraid.
>
> --
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Adair is, quite simply, a liar. And Bell and his audience of the
pathologically gullible never once bothered to question him.

For example he claims to have built a rocket fueled by "liquid hydrogen
and kerosene." Nonsense! Yet Bell just lets it slide. Probably
because he is too ignorant to ask the hard questions.

Typical of the sort of bellshit that is presented.

dr. digger

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Oct 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/9/97
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Spencer W Hunter <shu...@u.arizona.edu> wrote:

>David Adair might want to work on the following the next time
>he appears on Art Bell's show, which any genius 17-year-old fusion
>rocket designer should know how to pronounce:
>
>exponential
>tritium
>Stephen Hawking

David Adair didn't have to actually know how to say any of
those words, in order to get on the SwellShow.

He only had to convince Swell that he could entertain an
audience of idiots.

dr. digger, PMAFA

randy stiefer

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Oct 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/9/97
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dea...@geocities.com wrote:

>
> Spencer W Hunter wrote:
> > anything in the book that even remotely resembles a rocket engine.

Very good post , Spencer.


> >
> > I personally would rate Adair's credibility somewhere down there
> > with Sean David Morton and Mel, I'm afraid.
>

> And, Randy Stiefer, too.
>
Oh deagol, and I've always treated you so well,.........like family.

Joseph Raquepas

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Oct 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/9/97
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In article <61frtl$jso$1...@news.ccit.arizona.edu>,

Spencer W Hunter <shu...@u.arizona.edu> wrote:


>I personally would rate Adair's credibility somewhere down there
>with Sean David Morton and Mel, I'm afraid.

Hey man! Don't be talkin' shit about Mel!! The simplicity of
his hole hoax is the sign of true brilliance!


dea...@geocities.com

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Oct 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/9/97
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randy stiefer wrote:
>
> dea...@geocities.com wrote:
> >
> > Spencer W Hunter wrote:
> > > anything in the book that even remotely resembles a rocket engine.
>
> Very good post , Spencer.
> > >
> > > I personally would rate Adair's credibility somewhere down there
> > > with Sean David Morton and Mel, I'm afraid.
> >
> > And, Randy Stiefer, too.
> >
> Oh deagol, and I've always treated you so well,.........like family.

Incest? Rather off-topic, here, what?--

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Glen Quarnstrom

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Oct 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/9/97
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imsg...@math.montana.edu (Joseph Raquepas) wrote:

>In article <61frtl$jso$1...@news.ccit.arizona.edu>,
>Spencer W Hunter <shu...@u.arizona.edu> wrote:
>
>

>>I personally would rate Adair's credibility somewhere down there
>>with Sean David Morton and Mel, I'm afraid.
>

>Hey man! Don't be talkin' shit about Mel!! The simplicity of
>his hole hoax is the sign of true brilliance!

Better yet, he knew enough to run for cover before things got out of
hand, unlike guys like Hoagland, who have to come up with ever more
ludicrous bullshit to cover up the fact that their earlier scams and
predictions have fallen apart. Courtney Brown is the best example of
somebody who went one step too far in trying to provide "evidence" for
his hoax.
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Maverick

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Oct 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/16/97
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On 9 Oct 1997, Joseph Raquepas wrote:
> Spencer W Hunter <shu...@u.arizona.edu> wrote:
> >I personally would rate Adair's credibility somewhere down there
> >with Sean David Morton and Mel, I'm afraid.
> Hey man! Don't be talkin' shit about Mel!! The simplicity of
> his hole hoax is the sign of true brilliance!

Hey...don't glorify it yet. The true sign of a great hoax is when the
perpetrator starts believing it himself.


No wait...that might be insanity.


cadf...@gmail.com

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Jun 16, 2018, 1:10:33 PM6/16/18
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You are the greatest grammar expert ever existed. Mother Fuck that just makes you expert in rocketry. Shut the Fuck up. I hate debunkers that start pointing out nonsensical bullshit and say see see there is something he might not know do the discounts his entire life.

courtney...@gmail.com

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Aug 25, 2018, 3:04:40 AM8/25/18
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On Wednesday, October 8, 1997 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, The Commentator wrote:
> Spencer W Hunter wrote:
> >
> > David Adair might want to work on the following the next time
> > he appears on Art Bell's show, which any genius 17-year-old fusion
> > rocket designer should know how to pronounce:
> >
> > exponential
> > tritium
> > Stephen Hawking
> > (does anyone else refer to this man as "Steffan?")
> >
> > I'm also surprized that someone of of Adair's apparent breadth and
> > depth of knowledge had never heard of Alan Turing.
> >
> > Adair also refers listeners to a non-existent book in the closing
> > moments of Art's show for a schematic of his rocket engine, _The
> > Future of Energy_ published by the AAAS in 1973. He probably means
> > _Energy and the Future_ by Hammond, Metz, and Maugh (Washington:
> > AAAS, 1973), which does have an illustration of magnetic fusion
> > confinement that is usually depicted elsewhere in the popular press
> > in far greater detail. However, there are no illustrations of the
> > "figuure eight" confinement pattern Adair spoke about, nor is there
> > anything in the book that even remotely resembles a rocket engine.
> >
> > I personally would rate Adair's credibility somewhere down there
> > with Sean David Morton and Mel, I'm afraid.
> >
> > --
> > Spencer W. Hunter Tucson, AZ. | veni, vidi, vamos.
> > shu...@u.arizona.edu | they came, they saw, they left.
> > gopher://www.u.arizona.edu:80/hGET%20/~shunter
>
>
>
> Adair is, quite simply, a liar. And Bell and his audience of the
> pathologically gullible never once bothered to question him.
>
> For example he claims to have built a rocket fueled by "liquid hydrogen
> and kerosene." Nonsense! Yet Bell just lets it slide. Probably
> because he is too ignorant to ask the hard questions.
>
> Typical of the sort of bellshit that is presented.

Dear GOD this is an old fucking post. I didn't even know Google was around in 1997. Am I seeing shit or was this post started in 1997? Anyhow, just wanted to chime in on the old thread. Davids claims are pretty friggin out there. I've had a number of strange circumstances in my life that people believe I've made up, but I got nothin on this guy. However, with that said, I don't think any of us have enough information to say his story is or isn't true. We can say we know he's full of shit to our very core, and as has happened on many occasions in history, we have to eat our words. One thing I have noticed is that I haven't been able to find a single video or post with someone saying that they knew/know him and it's true or that they knew/know him and it's all made up. It's not like he's hidden his identity. in almost 70 years there has got to be SOMEBODY in his past that has a computer and has come across one of his videos. Just strange. All I can say, is that I don't know, and neither does anyone else for that matter. We may THINK we know, but until we can prove it one way or the other, all we can do is make a guess. My GUT tells me he's FOS, but hey, I've been wrong even when I was 100% positive.

vallor

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Aug 25, 2018, 9:17:52 AM8/25/18
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Thread is from 1997, from before Google -- posted here, in the USENET
newsgroup alt.fan.art-bell, which has been around since 1994 or so.

Google bought Dejanews (a USENET provider) at one point, and turned it
into "Google Groups". A lot of it is still USENET, they just have their
own particular interface into it, the web-based one you are using, G2.


> Anyhow, just wanted to chime in on the old thread. Davids claims are
> pretty friggin out there. I've had a number of strange circumstances in
> my life that people believe I've made up, but I got nothin on this guy.
> However, with that said, I don't think any of us have enough information
> to say his story is or isn't true. We can say we know he's full of shit
> to our very core, and as has happened on many occasions in history, we
> have to eat our words. One thing I have noticed is that I haven't been
> able to find a single video or post with someone saying that they
> knew/know him and it's true or that they knew/know him and it's all made
> up. It's not like he's hidden his identity. in almost 70 years there has
> got to be SOMEBODY in his past that has a computer and has come across
> one of his videos. Just strange. All I can say, is that I don't know,
> and neither does anyone else for that matter. We may THINK we know, but
> until we can prove it one way or the other, all we can do is make a
> guess. My GUT tells me he's FOS, but hey, I've been wrong even when I
> was 100% positive.

I don't even remember the guy. But his interview is on youface:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD99Bej4A9c

So now I'm going to listen and see how far I get through the program.

--
-v

vallor

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Aug 25, 2018, 9:07:41 PM8/25/18
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Didn't make it all the way through.

* There is _no_ temperature in space, it's like a vacuum bottle (any
temperature one gets or loses is radiative).
* His starchild idea with IQ in the 1000's seems a bit...touched.
* Story about Challenger was intriguing, but can't see how he would know
what he claimed to know about what the shuttle inhabitants were doing on
the way to the ground.
* No, the shuttle stack would not have the explosive potential of a 5MT
warhead. (Imagine what that would do if it blew up on the pad.)
* How did he get his alleged cryogenic fuels into the middle of his miles
of cowpatch?
* Cow mishap story: no comment, except it sounds like a porky
* Fusion engine? being charitable: he may have thought he was building
one, but no, there are no fusion engines
* And the story goes downhill from there -- man, what a whopper!

Entertaining stuff, but couldn't sit through the callers.

In passing, this was the night that Bell first broadcast on WABC NY --
and he mentions having an interview earlier with someone. I _think_ he
said Sean Hannity -- but I could have misheard it, and wasn't motivated
enough to rewind.

--
-v

courtney...@gmail.com

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Aug 25, 2018, 10:35:17 PM8/25/18
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Haha! Yeah, I didn't make it through this one https://youtu.be/e5nJA8Hkvyc . Like I said, I think he's FOS as well..... but I can't know for sure, but that's my gut feeling.

kiki...@gmail.com

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Jan 24, 2019, 5:22:13 PM1/24/19
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Wow this is cool finding such an old thread that can be replied to. I didn't know anything about David Adair but heard the name before. I googled "David Adair bullshit" after hearing him on Lorien Fenton's show as he said he's going to land on the moon and live stream it for $10 per viewer, which although a very generous fee apparently 8 billion people will pay to watch it. What a lunatic!

barfi...@gmail.com

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Jan 24, 2019, 5:46:04 PM1/24/19
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On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 4:22:13 PM UTC-6, kiki...@gmail.com wrote:
> Wow this is cool finding such an old thread that can be replied to. I didn't know anything about David Adair but heard the name before. I googled "David Adair bullshit" after hearing him on Lorien Fenton's show as he said he's going to land on the moon and live stream it for $10 per viewer, which although a very generous fee apparently 8 billion people will pay to watch it. What a lunatic!

I love seeing old threads with dead poasters such as old Grim Quarnhole. Makes me feel young again.

mechan...@yahoo.com

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Jun 18, 2019, 1:08:54 PM6/18/19
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I hadn't heard of David Adair until I accidently pressed a youtube thumbnail by accident, when I watched 15 minutes of UAMN TV's "Former Area 51 Scientist Discloses projects that have never been seen my the public" (Aug 21, 2018) and found it all familiar to Bob Lazar's cockamamie stories. At least Lazar had a paycheck to prove he worked in a general capacity of his hyperbolic claims. I can't find anything scientific written, hypothesized, modeled, etc. by Mr. Adair. No proof of anything within any rocket science field. I found stuff on him that everyone basically knows of him existing and his belief(s) of UFO's and alien crafts but absolutely nothing credible in his alleged "field". Seeing as how I just now am getting to know of this guy, I don't remember if he even called himself a scientist. I think all of these honorifics come from KOOKS and their titles of their thumbnails as David Adair as their subject/interviewee. With a guy claiming to be the only person to have made an impossible engine (as he describes), you'd think he'd show operational small scale models, maths, or sciences proving such. Even a small, harmless "Mr. Wizard", "Bill Nye" (he, too, is questionable) "Beakman" type of experiment Mr Adair might've observed serendipitously, while coming up with his mathand technology. But, alas, nothing to make Mr. Adair, at all, credible. I did find this little "tid bit" that I liked enough to repost here. any way Who is David Adair?


Scott Hanson, former Electronic Warfare Technician at United States Navy (1990-1994)
Answered Aug 10, 2018 · Author has 2.2k answers and 5.6m answer views
What is unbelievable or believable about David Adair's rocket and Area 51 story?

Well the short list here is to list what is believable….

NOTHING.

The longer list is what is unbelievable which is everything else.

David Adair is no rocket scientist. He is a failed actor with three bit part credits to his name in the late 80’s and early 90’s

He then reinvented himself as this super genius who invented something no one else can, and from nothing mind you… and for which there is still no evidence of.

All of his supposed accolades and awards are fake. No evidence of them exists. and to claim it was all “covered up by Area 51” is just convenient bullshit to cover the fact there is no such thing as what he invented or the stories he told.

He was on Coast to Coast AM, which is an ENTERTAINMENT program aimed at the stupid and gullible. Filled with idiots and kooks who call in with their stupidly outlandish tales.

David Adair is a fraud.

Teh Barfing Yak

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Jun 22, 2019, 9:25:56 PM6/22/19
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Pull your head out of your ass and smell teh roses.

Schmell teh roses for once in your pudfucking life.

Schmell teh roses, instead of thine sphincter.

Schmell teh sumbitches!

mattg...@gmail.com

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Aug 22, 2019, 9:13:50 PM8/22/19
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He is full of shit.
He's clearly an actor. He even has his own imdb page.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1583972/

Either that or the people at Area 51 were nice enough to let him out so he could play Dermont on the TV series "Minder"

Just saying.

Teh Barfing Yak

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Aug 24, 2019, 3:25:45 PM8/24/19
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You are a lacklustered little dingot, mein himmler.

mattg...@gmail.com

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Aug 24, 2019, 5:15:10 PM8/24/19
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You're a semen slurper who can't spell the word "the" :)

Teh Barfing Yak

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Aug 24, 2019, 9:34:04 PM8/24/19
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On Saturday, August 24, 2019 at 4:15:10 PM UTC-5, mattg...@gmail.com wrote:
> You're a semen slurper who can't spell the word "the" :)

Teh hell wiht you, mein himmler.

mattg...@gmail.com

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Aug 25, 2019, 12:03:41 AM8/25/19
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Haha, to hell with you.
You should have ended as a red stain on a used tampon. Unfortunately your mother can't keep her legs shut and now the rest of humanity has to fight the urge not to punch you in your semen slurping face.

Teh Barfing Yak

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Aug 25, 2019, 10:13:31 AM8/25/19
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You missed your dingleberry omelette this morning, you hermaphroditic weasel.

mattg...@gmail.com

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Aug 25, 2019, 4:14:48 PM8/25/19
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> You missed your dingleberry omelette this morning, you hermaphroditic weasel.


Oh my God, you suuuuuuck.

It's cool though.

Keep slurping bro, keep slurping.

Teh Barfing Yak

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Aug 26, 2019, 9:30:45 AM8/26/19
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You encrusted little tartitude. Feed away at the trough of my perineum, you engruviated blogart.

mattg...@gmail.com

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Aug 26, 2019, 7:12:20 PM8/26/19
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>
> You encrusted little tartitude. Feed away at the trough of my perineum, you engruviated blogart.


Wait, you have to carry your perineum in a trough? That's not normal. It sounds like you may have elephantiasis. Have you fucked any goats in South America lately? Yeah, you probably have. You should get that shit checked out.

Colonel Edmund J. Burke

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Then why do you suck his dick?
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