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Notroll2009

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Nov 16, 2009, 6:24:27 PM11/16/09
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..............but then, what would you expect?

http://rawstory.com/2009/11/palin-lies-shooting-wolves-helicopters/


ChasNemo

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Nov 16, 2009, 9:35:40 PM11/16/09
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On Nov 16, 6:24�pm, "Notroll2009" <jun...@charter.net> wrote:
> ..............but then, what would you expect?
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> http://rawstory.com/2009/11/palin-lies-shooting-wolves-helicopters/

Anyone who hunts wildlife from a helicopter is a cowardly HO. Are you
reading this, Sarah Stupid?

mightyjoe

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Nov 17, 2009, 7:26:12 AM11/17/09
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Sarah was right, hunters don't "hunt" wolves, they hunt caribou and
moose and other "meats." They culled the wolves so there would be
more "meats" for Alaskans to eat. Would you rather have the people
eat the meats and fishes that are native to Alaska, or have them
cattle ranch? It is liberals who are HOPELESSLY STUPID.

READ YOUR OWN STORY: "State wildlife officials believe they have saved
more than 1,400 moose or nearly 3,000 caribou -- or some combination
thereof -- with a winter program to kill wolves from aircraft,
although the wolf kill remains far below what the state wanted."

SAVE THE MOOSE

chatnoir

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Nov 17, 2009, 8:00:17 AM11/17/09
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So, white men saved the moose from predators - seems they were doing
great before the White Men came!

chatnoir

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Nov 17, 2009, 8:05:12 AM11/17/09
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http://www.wolfsongnews.org/news/Alaska_current_events_2014.html

Wolf-Control Programs Carried Out Under the Guise of 'Science'

State biologists use inaccurate findings to avoid public process

My Turn / Gordon Haber / Juneau Empire / February 18, 2007

Alaska's aerial wolf-killing program now covers five areas equal to
about two-thirds the size of Wyoming, and wolf control using
snowmachines and other non-aerial methods is effectively underway over
additional areas as well. Altogether, at least 1,500 wolves are killed
annually in Alaska.

For most of this killing, state biologists and the Board of Game avoid
the public process and written findings required for control programs
by claiming they are merely providing wolf "harvesting" opportunities.
Nevertheless, they are unable to avoid these requirements for the five
areas where airplanes are used. The details are revealing.

Foremost, the available information does not support the underlying
claims about moose, caribou and related hunting problems.

For example, state biologists continue to mislead Alaskans about the
need for predator control near McGrath, where hunters have enjoyed one
of the highest moose-hunting success rates in the state for at least
14 years. Last May, state biologists convinced the board it was
necessary to triple the size of the Fortymile wolf control area to
boost caribou numbers, where caribou numbers have already doubled
since 1997.

The only condition that might necessitate killing wolves to provide a
sustainable ungulate harvest is the so-called predator pit, a low
stable state that can occur at varying densities both naturally and
via human causes. Because ungulate recruitment increases and decreases
counter-intuitively across wide ranges of population densities, merely
showing that there is low calf survival or that survival increases
following a predator reduction does not suffice to identify a predator
pit. Low calf survival and similar responses to predator reductions
can also occur at high populations.

Recruitment information must be interpreted with good population
estimates, and vice versa, to confirm a predator pit. But there are
few if any reliable estimates of populations and their trends for the
control areas. The available information provides more reasons to
question than accept the claims about current predator pits.

Game Management Unit 20A, south of Fairbanks, illustrates the
importance of identifying this condition accurately and not otherwise
jumping to conclusions about negative effects on moose and moose
hunting even when wolves are at natural levels. 20A moose were
overhunted into a likely predator pit in the early to mid-1970s, then
rebounded during wolf control from 1976 to 1982. 20A wolves recovered
to natural or near-natural levels by mid-1983 and for the most part
have remained there since. Yet during this period of relative wolf
abundance - 1983 to 2006 - moose numbers increased another two- to
three-fold and 20A has become the best moose-hunting area in Alaska.

In contrast to 20A wolves, 20A bears have remained at low levels, due
to past heavy hunting and for other reasons. Thus the 1983 to 2006
observations also debunk the notion (for example, at McGrath) that
unchecked wolf predation during the winter will undo early calf-
survival gains from reductions in bear predation.

Data from neighboring Denali National Park (in my doctoral
dissertation), based on all the ungulates that two groups of wolves
ate during 2,666 miles of their travels over a series of mild, severe
and average winters, help to explain why. The wolves scavenged rather
than killed 60 percent to 77 percent of the moose they ate (47 percent
to 48 percent of the moose, sheep and caribou they ate combined) and
killed only 2.0 percent to 8.9 percent of the moose they encountered.
The state's findings for the control areas are full of speculation
about predation effects but mention nothing about this Denali
research.

I invite readers to consider the details of these and related
arguments. They appear in a 67-page scientific review - with citations
to 81 other reports - that I submitted to the Board of Game at the
March-May 2006 meetings. The Board neither considered nor even
mentioned this and other scientific opposition during its subsequent
deliberations.

Once again, agency biologists and the board have been able to avoid
meaningful review and sell their gratuitous control programs to
Alaskans under the guise of "science."

* Gordon Haber, Ph.D., an independent wildlife scientist, has studied
wolves and wolf-ungulate systems in Alaska since 1966

Hagar

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Nov 17, 2009, 8:45:05 AM11/17/09
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"mightyjoe" <shor...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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SAVE THE MOOSE

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Kill a Liberal instead ... they do more damage than wolves ... they are
also much dumber, especially the "Morons of the Obamacalypse", and
you know who you are, you four (4) Retards ...


ChasNemo

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:01:19 AM11/17/09
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Exactly. The lies in Sarah Stupid's own books will sink her. She'll
sell some books to gullible rightards, of course, but that'll be all.
Gospel.

Notroll2009

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Nov 17, 2009, 10:49:45 AM11/17/09
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"Hagar" <hs...@surewest.net> wrote in message
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We don't have to kill rightards, their own inbreeding will take care of it
over time.


"The Great One"

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"Hagar" <hs...@surewest.net> wrote in message news:OtudnYIHJsZENZ_W...@giganews.com...
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Wolfus-Puss better stay inside his garage den then !!
--
John C.

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