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"Stop the Pledge of Allegiance"

May 24, 2007, 12:42:08 PM5/24/07
In 1918, E.V. Starr was sentenced to 10 years in prison in Montana for
refusing to kiss the flag. What would you have done? He probably
would have done what you would have done in hindsight.
But it was too late. Do you suppose that before or after sentencing
he offered to provide a make-up kiss for the flag
if the judge would forgive and forget?

See the anti libertarian character of the Pledge
in a photograph of Pledge of Allegiance
Pledge of Allegiance Image


A fan claims that a U.S. Congresswoman wants to toughen flag laws and
alter the gesture/salute with more of a hands-on approach.
Instead of placing the hand over the breast, the hand would be
placed upon the flag.

She also wants to codify the old Montana kissing case nationwide. Her
proposal would toughen the flag-kissing mandate so that underlings can
comply vicariously: She kisses the flag, voters kiss her ass,
therefore, vicariously, voters kiss the flag.

It is urged as another improvement on
the current hand-over-the-heart gesture. She displays enormous
respect for the flag that should be found in the breasts
of all Americans. Penalties would be improved to the same
level of 10 years in prison for any
refusal to kiss the flag (or a politician's ass).

In August of 1918, E.V. Starr was convicted in Montana of sedition.
Starr had been accosted by a mob that demanded he kiss the flag. Starr
refused, and reportedly said "What is this thing anyway?
Nothing but a piece of cotton with a little paint on it and some
other marks in the corner there. I will not kiss that thing.
It might be covered with microbes." Starr was
sentenced to 10-20 years of hard labor in a state penitentiary as well
as fined $500 plus court costs.


On November 9, 1918, the Kansas Supreme Court heard the appeal of
Frederick Shumaker, Jr. for his conviction for having made to someone
a "vulgar and indecent" comment about flags. According to the court,
"Such language will not, cannot, be used by any man in any place
concerning our flag, if he has any proper respect for it. The man who
uses such language concerning it, either in jest or in argument,
does not have the respect for it that should be found in the breast
of every citizen of the United States." The justices
voted unanimously to uphold Shumaker's conviction.

On May 18, 1931, the Supreme Court ruled in the case of Stromberg v.
California that laws banning the use of emblems or symbols to express
opposition to the American government are an unconstitutional
infringement on free speech.
That suggested it is also an infringement on free
speech to ban use of the flag in a manner that is "disrespectful."

In the year mentioned, 1918, the notorious stiff-armed salute was used
in the early Pledge of Allegiance (from 1892).
It was the origin of the salute adopted later by
the National Socialist German Workers' Party, as shown in
the astounding discoveries of the historian Dr. Rex Curry (author of
"Pledge of Allegiance Secrets").

"Stop the Pledge of Allegiance"

May 25, 2007, 7:24:20 AM5/25/07
Dr. Rex Curry is an international treasure for his historic work re
Pledging Allegiance

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