1. What is "Down" about? Even though at first listen this may appear to be a
song about the Clinton administartion, it's actually about a man who's about
to be taken to prison or put to death or sent away or something equally
forlorn who's beseaching his beloved to remind someone very close to him that
"we all fall down." Quite cinematic, really.
2. Who's the "What" Girl on "Phone Call #27"? Rosemary Daugherty, an
all-around marvelous person/artist extraodinaire/former girlfriend of mine.
She's the one responsible for the whimsical artwork used in the
Mellowdramatic Wallflowers (Admiral Twin's earlier incarnation) bio book
which you can see on the Mellowdramatic Wallflowers home page.
3. Who recites "Creepshow Fog" the first hidden track on Unlucky? That would
be Mark Carr, our swarthy and talented bassist. He's reciting a bit of
tongue-in-cheek beat poetry I wrote for my very first band, Beatnik Pirates.
Way back in the '80s, I used to recite that poem whilst my guitarist at the
time (Dallas Koehn, still one of my best friends) would play avant garde
"stuff." Mark found the poem scrawled on a scrap piece of paper on my dresser
while he was recording vocals for "I'm No King" and read them in a really
disturbingly funny way, unaware we were taping him at the time. We knew it
had to go on the CD somehow, so we made it our hidden track. On that note,
those of you who own Continental Breakfast (the second Mellowdramatic
Wallflowers release) might want to contemplate the idea that there's more
than meets the ear on that release as well...
Any more questions? Fire away. I'm here for you, kids.
--Jarrod--
When do you guys leave for Montreal? I would imagine you guys are going to
be heading out soon. In that case, have fun. Knock their socks off (I'll
be there in Montreal and Great Woods, look for me I'll be the one with the
binoculars, waving ;0)
I hope you guys have a great time.
--
Have fun,
Amanda
"Except when you don't. Because, sometimes, you won't. I'm sorry to say so
but, sadly, it's true that Bang-ups and Hang-ups can happen to you.
You will get all hung up in a prickle-ly perch. And your gang will fly on.
You'll be left in a Lurch." -Dr. Seuss
Lacey
"Hanson = Every mother's sons and every daughter's dream."
I don't really have a question but... THANK YOU! Not often I get called a
kid anymore. =) Well except by my parents. LOL
Yvonne
Prism Nite
Families are like fudge... mostly sweet, with a few nuts.
***BZZZZZ****
I'm sorry, "Jarrod of Admiral Twin," that is _incorrect_.
You lose.
Now, I realize you may sincerely believe that your explanation
of "Down" is correct. It's possible even that the writer (Brad?)
of the song believes you are correct as well. It may be that
everyone in and around the band has taken a vote and decided that
this is, in fact, _the_ definitive explanation of the song "Down."
But it is not.
While the scenario above may have inspired the lyrics, the lyrics
themselves are much too elusive and misty to hammer back down to
the original scenario. The song is no longer about _a_ guy in
_a_ situation anymore than The Raven is about a bird or that
silly Ogden Nash poem is truly about an Elephant trying to use
1-800-COLLECT. Like any good art, they have transcended their
initial meaning. To try to collect the scattered emotives and
imagery and cork it all back into the original bottle, well...
It's impossible to complete, and wrong to attempt it. If you
love something, set it free... otherwise we might as well all
go back to middle school art class and have some stuffy old
lady tell us what the Mona Lisa is _really_ smiling about once
and for all. And even if she's right, is she really right?
--Robin
>PTSIZE=10>jed...@aol.com wrote:<BR>
>> <BR>
>> 1. What is "Down" about? Even though at first listen this may<BR>
>> appear to be a song about the Clinton administartion, it's actually<BR>
>> about a man who's about to be taken to prison or put to death or<BR>
>> sent away or something equally forlorn who's beseaching his beloved<BR>
>> to remind someone very close to him that "we all fall down." Quite<BR>
>> cinematic, really.<BR>
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>***BZZZZZ****<BR>
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>I'm sorry, "Jarrod of Admiral Twin," that is _incorrect_.<BR>
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>You lose.<BR>
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>Now, I realize you may sincerely believe that your explanation<BR>
>of "Down" is correct. It's possible even that the writer (Brad?)<BR>
>of the song believes you are correct as well. It may be that<BR>
>everyone in and around the band has taken a vote and decided that<BR>
>this is, in fact, _the_ definitive explanation of the song "Down."<BR>
><BR>
>But it is not.<BR>
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>While the scenario above may have inspired the lyrics, the lyrics<BR>
>themselves are much too elusive and misty to hammer back down to<BR>
>the original scenario. The song is no longer about _a_ guy in<BR>
>_a_ situation anymore than The Raven is about a bird or that<BR>
>silly Ogden Nash poem is truly about an Elephant trying to use<BR>
>1-800-COLLECT. Like any good art, they have transcended their<BR>
>initial meaning. To try to collect the scattered emotives and<BR>
>imagery and cork it all back into the original bottle, well...<BR>
><BR>
>It's impossible to complete, and wrong to attempt it. If you <BR>
>love something, set it free... otherwise we might as well all<BR>
>go back to middle school art class and have some stuffy old<BR>
>lady tell us what the Mona Lisa is _really_ smiling about once<BR>
>and for all. And even if she's right, is she really right?<BR>
><BR>
>--Robin<BR>
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That's all fine and good, and I would have to say I agree with you for the most
part. Artists are just tools for creation, after all. They themselves don't
always realize the full import of what they are making. But when an artist is
asked to explain lyrics he (or his bandmate) has written, he can only expound
upon what he was thinking when the lyrics were written. How can he know more?
This doesn't in any way invalidate the listener's own vision of what the lyrics
REALLY mean...of their fullest meaning, etc. But neither should the listener
say the original meaning is invalid, either...because, quite frankly, it's not.
And besides...the song is ACTUALLY about United Dairy Workers strike of 1906 in
which 185 striking milkmen were severly besotted and scratched profusely about
the face and neck by herds of angry housewives.
What do you think of THAT Little Miss Hoity Toity Arteeest? Huh? HUH?
--Jarrod of AT--
ROFL You tell her, Jarrod!
Sharon °o°
> That's all fine and good, and I would have to say I agree with you
> for the most part. Artists are just tools for creation, after all.
> They themselves don't always realize the full import of what they
> are making.
That's _exactly_ how I feel about Ronnie James Dio.
> But when an artist is asked to explain lyrics he (or his bandmate)
> has written, he can only expound upon what he was thinking when
> the lyrics were written.
Well... He (or she) _could_ give some vague, elusive answer about
the personalized truth of each work and how it's up to the listener
to decide for themselves what's right and wrong. That inability to
commit one way or the other _is_ what makes this country _great_,
after all.
Not to mention you don't shatter little girls' musical worlds that
way...
> How can he know more?
Meditation? Divine guidance? Fortune cookies?
> And besides...the song is ACTUALLY about United Dairy Workers
> strike of 1906 in which 185 striking milkmen were severly
> besotted and scratched profusely about the face and neck by
> herds of angry housewives.
I _knew_ you were hiding something!!!
*calls jarrod of admiral twin a bad name under her breath*
*immediately repents and takes it back*
> What do you think of THAT Little Miss Hoity Toity Arteeest?
> Huh? HUH?
oooOOOOooo... I've been spat on by a rock star! Let me get a
jar and save some of the saliva for posterity!
:-)
> --Jarrod of AT--
--Robin of afAT
"Ashes, ashes... we all fall down."
(thinking to himself..."She's sarcastic, snide, opinionated, stubborn, a little
crass and dryly witty...this can only mean one thing...")
You are my dream woman, Robin. Marry me. Now.
--Jarrod of AT--
P.S. Oh wait...I've got a girlfriend. Never mind.
Ha! As if! I'm _so_ sure! Fat chance! Like I got nothing better to--
Well, OK.
> P.S. Oh wait...I've got a girlfriend. Never mind.
Oh yeah--like that ever stops a guy. :-)
--Robin
Hehe...:::snicker:::
Have fun,
Amanda
What is the meaning of the painting?
Lacey
"Hanson = Every mother's sons and every daughter's dream."
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umm... the woman is upset, the man is sick, and the lights went out? hehe... i
don't know! :)
*~*Nikki*~*
**If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is
where they should be. Now put the foundations under them.** --Henry David
Thoreau
She said: -- Oh yeah--like that ever stops a guy. :-)
--Robin
Here, here... I say, good show, old chap.
--April--
somewhat related to Admiral Twin
>>There is a painting of a man and a woman seated at a table. The woman is
>>crying and red-faced and the man holds his pale face in his hands. The room
>>is filled with shadows.
>>
>>What is the meaning of the painting?
>>
>>
>
>umm... the woman is upset, the man is sick, and the lights went out? hehe...
>i don't know! :)
>
>*~*Nikki*~*
I was going to guess that the woman was severly sunburned and in a lot of pain,
the man had hypotension and thought he was going to pass out, and it was
getting dark outside, no lights in the house.
hehe - just a wild guess.
Marci
CEO Moldy Pudding
Prevent inbreeding: ban country music.
The man has a terrible toothache and can't take the woman to the AT concert.
She's very upset. It's getting late..... AT's gonna be on stage any minute
now...she's getting ready to call a cab....
~ Hes
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Why do they lock gas station bathrooms? Are they afraid someone will clean
them?
Gee, thanks!
BUT, that _should_ read:
"Good show, lil' lass."
I'm no chap! Not to nitpick, but I'm proud of my sex!
Er... gender. Proud of my gender.
;-)
Are you two done being proud of yourselves yet?
--Jarrod--
I'm sorry--was there a rule about 'only Jarrod of Admiral Twin
can try to be clever' that I missed? I'll try to stick to hugs
and LOL's ad infinitum from now on...
--Robin, who posted this in place of her original response, which
was _almost_ rude.
:-)
P.S. To April: POWER TO OUR SEX!!! ER... GENDER. POWER TO OUR GENDER!!!
Didn't the Spice Girls consider that for their motto?
Thought I read that somewhere. But it was "too wordy."
Mary
<><
You're just jealous. You wish you could be as proud of your sex... er,
femininity... er, whatever... as we are.
--April--
Standing tall and being counted for
First, Jarrod seems to think that he has a monopoly on wit and intelligence.
Well, *Pbbbbbth* to that.
Second, Peace out on grrrl power, baby.
(Omigosh, I can't believe I've stooped so low as to quoting the Spice Girls.
Doctor, we need more novacaine...)
--April--
Naughty Girl #4627556
Never1174 <neve...@aol.com> wrote in article
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Oh, do.
Seeing as we use both sides of our brain we have every right to be proud.
bbcrow
Now, now... let's not get snotty and holier than thou about men. There are a
lot of good reasons for them. Only a few of which I can type here without
making others blush...
1. They sometimes smell good.
2. They usually can lift heavy things.
3. They feel better than a tattered old teddy bear or a wornout pillow.
4. They like it when you compliment them.
5. Sometimes one of them can make you have that mushy-tickley-stupid feeling in
the pit of your innards.
6. They can split things with you.
7. Most of them give great hugs.
8. They're male.
9. A very large number of them are somewhat handsome. Beautiful even.
10. They grow up to form groups like Hanson and ADMIRAL TWIN. (sorry, cheap
attempt at being supportive.)
--April--
enough, enough
>1. They sometimes smell good.
hehehe -sometimes
>4. They like it when you compliment them.
translated as : they like their egos fed. ::snicker:: ;-)
>5. Sometimes one of them can make you have that mushy-tickley-stupid feeling
>in
>the pit of your innards.
LOL-when I first read this (fast) I thought it said that make that mushy-stupid
sound in their arm pits!
>8. They're male.
>9. A very large number of them are somewhat handsome. Beautiful even.
>10. They grow up to form groups like Hanson and ADMIRAL TWIN. (sorry, cheap
>attempt at being supportive.)
>
>--April--
# 8, 9, 10... those are the best! You've said it all, April!
Marci
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
>Now, now... let's not get snotty and holier than thou about men. There are a
>lot of good reasons for them.
>8. They're male.
I think that's the best reason of all! ;-)
Dom
Love is like arsenic.
You know the stuff is poison
but you gotta have a taste.
I really do love men, ususally more than is sometimes good for me LOL (but
that's another story heh heh). But my favorite quote about what Men are good
for was spoken by Murphy Brown. It goes something like this:
"We need to have an entire planet with women *only*...and only one man who
would open jars for us. Oh, and another one to fix the plumbing."
Laura :D
"I try not to get in a fight with Taylor because he would hurt me. Just
teasing." ~~ Isaac
We digress, we digress.
Nonetheless, the female gender *would* survive longer than the male gender in a
world comprised only of a single gender. After all, we do operate out of both
sides of our brains and we (unlike the male gender) have a multi-track mind, so
we are constantly crossing the finish line in some area of our lives. Very
satisfying, indeed. However; we are just wacky enough to crave the company,
comfort, passion and pain that only those of the male gender can deliver in
their own special male-gender way.
Earth is getting pretty sparse lately, I am thinking that this venusian needs
to find a martian who can fly her to the moon. I won't even mind if he is sort
of greenish looking, just so long as he smells good sometimes.
> 5. Sometimes one of them can make you have that mushy-tickley-stupid feeling in
> the pit of your innards.
You mean...that one you get right before you BARF? *ahem*
LuCy:-)
I heard a guy say that once. (only everthing was switched around to his
favor.)
--April--
So...? April, please expound! Are you saying we are just basically the same
no matter what our gender? Is the only difference the "parts" we have? Don't
leave me hanging here, girl.
T-Town Babs
"...and I go on building bridges that cross over dry land..."
>>I heard a guy say that once. (only everthing was switched around to his
>>favor.)
>>
>>--April--
>>
>
>So...? April, please expound! Are you saying we are just basically the same
>no matter what our gender? Is the only difference the "parts" we have?
>Don't
>leave me hanging here, girl.
>T-Town Babs
I have a feeling this NG is about to get quite educational. ::pulls up a
chair:: April, *do* share! <G>
Marci
You can tell a person's sense of humor by what he laughs at.
You can tell a person't integrity by what he doesn't laugh at.
==snicker, snicker==
--April--
Soap, where's the soap? This dern mind of mine...
Marci, we've got to get her talking!! You know it will be interesting :o)
~~~~~~~~~~
T-Town Babs
~~~~~~~~~~
"...nothing else seems real..."
>Hmmm. April left us with a snicker and a tuck of her head. I can't believe
>she doesn't have more to say on the subject.
>
> Marci, we've got to get her talking!! You know it will be interesting :o)
Oh, I know that! Maybe she needs a new topic. Lets see... April, what is your
opinion on the effect of flatulating alligators on the ozone?
>~~~~~~~~~~
>T-Town Babs
Actually, Brian and I were discussing this yesterday. Some doofus in my
husband's office was trying to tell me that Florida is running out of
electricity, I told Brian about it and somehow we got started talking about
flatulating alligators.
Marci
A Woman's Rules for Men
1. Never tape any of her body parts together.
2.The correct answer to, "Do I look fat?" is never, ever, "Yes."
3. Ditto for "Is she prettier than me?"
I didn't know 3-year old Zebras ate pudding.
--April--
blank
::stares at the computer screen with a confused but blank look on her face.
thinking thinking thinking. can't think. need sleep::
Um, Margaret? What's she talking about?
(Hey, Margaret, I'm probably not leaving until Sunday.) :-)
>>April, what is your opinion on the effect of flatulating alligators on the
>ozone?
>>>T-Town Babs
>
>I didn't know 3-year old Zebras ate pudding.
>
>--April--
>::stares at the computer screen with a >confused but blank look on her face.
>thinking thinking thinking. can't think. need >sleep::
>Um, Margaret? What's she talking about?
>(Hey, Margaret, I'm probably not leaving >until Sunday.) :-)
>Marci
Marci...I havent the slightest......but it reminds me of something someone once
told me..
How many pancakes does it take to cover the roof of a doghouse??
57 because motorcycles don't have windows
>How many pancakes does it take to cover the roof of a doghouse??
>
>57 because motorcycles don't have windows
LOL! This is the type of humour my brother annoys me with 24/7, he
lives for this stuff..
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> A Woman's Rules for Men
> 2.The correct answer to, "Do I look fat?" is never, ever, "Yes."
> 3. Ditto for "Is she prettier than me?"
I prefer brutal honesty and not asking rhetorical questions.....
LuCy:-)
ROTFL! Can't say I ever heard that one. I like Margaret's take on it too.
If you eat your lunch before the bus arrives, can you still ride the bus or do
you have to wait to catch a train?
~~~~~~~~~~
T-Town Babs
~~~~~~~~~~
"A man's reach must exceed his grasp, or what is a heaven for?"
>
>I prefer brutal honesty and not asking rhetorical questions.....
>
>LuCy:-)
>
>
LOL that's because you have nothing to worry about, my dear! ;-)
Marci
A Woman's Rules for Men
4. Being attentive is good. Stalking is bad.
5. Her cooking is excellent.
6. That isn't an excuse for you to avoid cooking.
7. Dish soap is your friend.
yes..but not moldy pudding....
~ Hes
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Not one shred of evidence exists in favor of the idea that life is serious.