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Lady Laurel

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Mar 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/18/00
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-- Since my move to San Antonio two weeks ago I have been trying to
find another college to resume my trek for a degree. Anyway I am a Art
history major (for the last three semesters) I have found an awesome
college here ( I think )???? Has anyone gone to Trinity college in San
Antonio the Art History department looks awesome also one can get a
minor in Medieval and Renaissance history. I have not however checked
the fees it will probably strangle me.
lady Laurel
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James Sweetland

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Mar 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/18/00
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NORMTUBA wrote:
in part--
> A bit OT, but:
>
> Lady Laurel:
>
> If it is a good school and where you want to go, find the money somewhere and
> go. The right school is very important. However, a piece of advice. Art
> history and medieval and Renaissance history, as interesting as they are (with
> a Ph.D in history, I think so :) ) are not in this day and age going to be an
> easy entree' into the job market--i.e., making a living.

[snip]

I agree wholeheartedly with everything he says. I would only add,
it's great to do what you love, but it helps if people pay you for it.
So, have a fallback position. I would suggest you might also consider
a double major in museum curating or librarianship--although both of
those
fields are also rather heavily loaded with arts and humanities people
at this time. (At least in the Midwest, there is an ongoing shortage of
school teachers and school library/media specialists, but lots of
academic & research librarians in things like art, art history, and
humanities in general). Or, and this is the time to move further
discussion offlist--major as you want, but then get into cataloging--
a big shortage of technically-trained library catalogers now since
ca 1990, and no end in site. If you're interested in more detail,
please email me.
--
James Sweetland, Bristol gamer, AFR deity of knowledge, High Priest of
pushmonkeys, Bard #74, and KinderHunter of Sarcastica, not even children
are safe from wisecracks. Proud to be a SCRIBE Associate:
Want more information about faire? See http://www.faire.net/SCRIBE/

NORMTUBA

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Mar 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/19/00
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Lady Laurel posteth:

>-- Since my move to San Antonio two weeks ago I have been trying to>find
another college to resume my trek for a degree. Anyway I am a Art>history major
(for the last three semesters) I have found an awesome>college here ( I think
)???? Has anyone gone to Trinity college in San
>Antonio the Art History department looks awesome also one can get a
>minor in Medieval and Renaissance history. I have not however checked
>the fees it will probably strangle me.
>lady Laurel
>Wench#886

A bit OT, but:

Lady Laurel:

If it is a good school and where you want to go, find the money somewhere and
go. The right school is very important. However, a piece of advice. Art
history and medieval and Renaissance history, as interesting as they are (with
a Ph.D in history, I think so :) ) are not in this day and age going to be an

easy entree' into the job market--i.e., making a living. My suggestion--with
your art history, also get some instruction somewhere in how to matt and frame,
and take some business courses. At that point, you will at least have some
practical skills which will make you a desirable work prospect at galleries.
As a museum curator with close ties to the art museum world, I can tell you
that art history majors with practical skills such as these have a much better
chance of getting a job that pays a living. My son, who is in his fourth year
of college, is majoring in exercise science, which is a growth field as far as
jobs goes. However, he is taking an extra year of college to get a minor in
business. He figures it will help him in the work environment--and I agree
with him, even though it is going to cost us more to get him through college.
Pay now or pay later.

When I was going to college 30+ years ago, you could get a degree in almost
anything and get a pretty decent job. Get your Ph.D in almost anything and you
had a college teaching job. No longer. The bottom fell out of the job
market in the history field just about the time I finished my MA; I was lucky
to get a history job with Uncle Sam. Scary--less than 4 years and I can
retire. I don't envy you folks going to college now. You have to strategize
a lot more than my generation did to plan for your employment future.

I wish you the best of luck.


Norm
"Oh, it's you, Norm. I didn't recognize you without your helmet."


Lady Laurel

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Mar 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/20/00
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In article <38D43333...@csd.uwm.edu>,
James Sweetland <swee...@csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
> NORMTUBA wrote:
> in part--

> > A bit OT, but:
> >
> > Lady Laurel:
> >
> > If it is a good school and where you want to go, find the money
somewhere and
> > go. The right school is very important. However, a piece of advice.
Art
> > history and medieval and Renaissance history, as interesting as
they are (with
> > a Ph.D in history, I think so :) ) are not in this day and age
going to be an
> > easy entree' into the job market--i.e., making a living.
>
> [snip]
>
> I agree wholeheartedly with everything he says. I would only add,
> it's great to do what you love, but it helps if people pay you for it.
> So, have a fallback position. I would suggest you might also consider
> a double major in museum curating or librarianship--although both of
> those
> fields are also rather heavily loaded with arts and humanities people
> at this time. (At least in the Midwest, there is an ongoing shortage
of
> school teachers and school library/media specialists, but lots of
> academic & research librarians in things like art, art history, and
> humanities in general). Or, and this is the time to move further
> discussion offlist--major as you want, but then get into cataloging--
> a big shortage of technically-trained library catalogers now since
> ca 1990, and no end in site. If you're interested in more detail,
> please email me.
> --
> James Sweetland, Bristol gamer, AFR deity of knowledge, High Priest
of
> pushmonkeys, Bard #74, and KinderHunter of Sarcastica, not even
children
> are safe from wisecracks. Proud to be a SCRIBE Associate:
> Want more information about faire? See http://www.faire.net/SCRIBE/
>
-- I had originally thought about museums and a job with them. But my
professors are telling me that research maybe my calling. I love to
research but have not found anywhere that would pay very much money for
them. Now maybe I am looking in the wronge place but that has been my
experience so far and I have just changed my major three semesters ago.
Thanks for the input.
Also one more thing to be a librian of sorts dont you need your
masters??
Lady Laurel

dcole

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Mar 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/20/00
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Hello! How do you like San Antonio? If I could go back again, I would
in a heartbeat. That wonderfully fun, exciting city was my home for a
while. Trinity College is a terrific place to get your degree, but
alas, yes, the fees will make your wallet cry. I had a friend who got
her music degree (flute) there & she loved it but said it was tough.
songs&stories,
~silverwillow~
RenGeek
Bard #15


Lady Laurel wrote:
>
> -- Since my move to San Antonio two weeks ago I have been trying to
> find another college to resume my trek for a degree. Anyway I am a Art
> history major (for the last three semesters) I have found an awesome
> college here ( I think )???? Has anyone gone to Trinity college in San
> Antonio the Art History department looks awesome also one can get a
> minor in Medieval and Renaissance history. I have not however checked
> the fees it will probably strangle me.

> lady Laurel

Lady Laurel

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Mar 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/20/00
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In article <38D574ED...@earthlink.net>,
-- You know there are always student loans. If I realy want it I will
find a way. The college I was attending as of last semester was also a
community/junior college. North Harris in Houston awesome teachers
there. I just want to find a place that I will learn what I want.
Yeah San Antonio is cool. I will be hitting the museums next week. It
is almost like you can feel the history around you.
Lady Laurel

Rhia Firewalker

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Mar 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/21/00
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Never thought I'd be saying this, but Trinity is a really good school. BA
in Communications, Class of '93
Be prepared to hock a limb to pay for it.... but as far as liberal arts
education, it's great. Let me know if you have any questions I could help
with.

Lady Laurel

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In article
<4816C8F07E9F8FD0.E04FFD96...@lp.airnews.net>,
-- Thanks for your input. Thats the problem how much do I want to hock
my first born for.(In fun do not have children yet) I tell you what the
more I have checked into it the more I am becoming impressed.
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