Hosono Haruomi album
kuproverto
Sorry for posting in English, I'm a beginner.
I found a CD the other day by the Japenese artist Hosono Haruomi entitled
Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo and the track listings are in Esperanto. I've
attemted a translation but need some help!
Here's what I've done so far. I've indicated the ^ symbol by using, for eg
c\^
Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo
Night of the Galactic Railway
Muziko de Honoso Haruomi
Music of Honoso Haruomi
La c\^eftitolo
The ??
Temo el la Mondo de la Fantazia Kvara Dimensio
Theme from the World of the Fantastic Fourth Dimension
Fantazio kaj Realo
Fantasy and Realism??
En Tago Serena
A Day Serene
La Kanto de la Rondiro de la Steloj
The song of the ?? of the ??
Fantazio de Giovanni
Fantasy of Giovanni
La Stelfesto de Centauro
The ?? of Centaur
La Masto de "Tenkirin"
The Mast of "Tenkirin"
La G\^ojo
The joy
La Nordo Kruco
The North Cross
La Pliocena Marbordo
The ?? Coast
La Historio Fantazio
The History Fantastic
La Harpo de la Paradizo
The harp of the paradise
La Travida Malg\^ojo de Giovanni
The ?? Sadness of Giovanni
La Pleja Felic\^o
The ?? Happiness
Temo de la Adiau\^o
Theme of the Goodbye
Kuro
??
45 minutoj
45 minutes
Rekviemo
??
Temo Finala: Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo
Theme Final?? : Night of the Galactic Railway
Please can someone fill in the gaps?
Regards,
Barnaby
Donald J. Harlow
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> Hello group,
>
> Sorry for posting in English, I'm a beginner.
>
> I found a CD the other day by the Japenese artist Hosono Haruomi entitled
> Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo and the track listings are in Esperanto. I've
> attemted a translation but need some help!
>
> Here's what I've done so far. I've indicated the ^ symbol by using, for eg
> c\^
>
> Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo
> Night of the Galactic Railway
>
> Muziko de Honoso Haruomi
> Music of Honoso Haruomi
>
> La c\^eftitolo
> The ??
>
titol' = title
> Temo el la Mondo de la Fantazia Kvara Dimensio
> Theme from the World of the Fantastic Fourth Dimension
>
> Fantazio kaj Realo
> Fantasy and Realism??
>
"reality" might be a better English translation
> En Tago Serena
> A Day Serene
>
> La Kanto de la Rondiro de la Steloj
> The song of the ?? of the ??
>
rond' = a circle
ir' = go
stel' = star
> Fantazio de Giovanni
> Fantasy of Giovanni
>
> La Stelfesto de Centauro
> The ?? of Centaur
>
fest' = party
> La Masto de "Tenkirin"
> The Mast of "Tenkirin"
>
> La G\^ojo
> The joy
>
> La Nordo Kruco
> The North Cross
>
That should probably be "La Norda Kruco"
> La Pliocena Marbordo
> The ?? Coast
>
pliocen' = pliocene, a period somewhat earlier than ours in the development
of the earth
> La Historio Fantazio
> The History Fantastic
>
This would be "The History Fantasy". It maybe ought to be either "La
Historio Fantazia" (The fantastic history) or "La Historia Fantazio" (The
historical fantasy).
> La Harpo de la Paradizo
> The harp of the paradise
>
> La Travida Malg\^ojo de Giovanni
> The ?? Sadness of Giovanni
>
tra = through
vid' = see
> La Pleja Felic\^o
> The ?? Happiness
>
plej = most, sign of the superlative comparison
> Temo de la Adiau\^o
> Theme of the Goodbye
>
> Kuro
> ??
>
kur' = run
> 45 minutoj
> 45 minutes
>
> Rekviemo
> ??
>
rekviem' = requiem
> Temo Finala: Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo
> Theme Final?? : Night of the Galactic Railway
>
>
> Please can someone fill in the gaps?
>
> Regards,
>
> Barnaby
>
This is, I suppose, taken from the anime film (whose English title is given
as "Night On the Galactic Railroad") which in turn was based on a story by
Kenzi Miyazawa, a famous Japanese writer early in the 20th century. The film
(all of whose background text and whose chapter breaks are also in
Esperanto) is available in the US on DVD (I got a copy several months ago).
The original story is also available in Esperanto, translated by Konisi
Gaku, in the book _Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo_, published in 1994 by the
Japana Esperanta Librokooperativo. (The book also contains four other
stories by Miyazawa.)
First para.:
"'Cxu vi scias do, knaboj, kio fakte estas tiu nebula blankajxo, kiun oni
nomis jen rivero jen spuro de fluinta lakto?' La instruisto lancxis la
demandon al siaj lernantoj dum li fongromontris al granda nigra stelmapo
pendigita sur la nigra tabulo. Tie, de supre malsupren, fluis nebula
blankajxo simila al la zono galaksia."
--
-- Don HARLOW
http://www.webcom.com/~donh/don/don.html
http://donh.best.vwh.net/Esperanto/
kuproverto
only find Japenese versions. From where did you buy yours?
I've incorporated the new words and interpreted the word order a bit for
some of the track names. Would you say I'm near the mark with these new
translations?
Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo
Night of the Galactic Railroad
Muziko de Honoso Haruomi
Music of Honoso Haruomi
La cxeftitolo
The Main Title
Temo el la Mondo de la Fantazia Kvara Dimensio
Theme from the World of the Fantastic Fourth Dimension
Fantazio kaj Realo
Fantasy and Reality
En Tago Serena
A Serene Day
La Kanto de la Rondiro de la Steloj
The Song of the Circling of the Stars
Fantazio de Giovanni
Fantasy of Giovanni
La Stelfesto de Centauro
The Star Party of Centaur
La Masto de "Tenkirin"
The Mast of "Tenkirin"
La Gxojo
The Joy
La Norda Kruco
The North Cross
La Pliocena Marbordo
The Pliocene Coast
La Historio en Fantazio
The History in Fantasty
La Harpo de la Paradizo
The Harp of the Paradise
La Travida Malgxojo de Giovanni
The See Through Sadness of Giovanni
La Pleja Felicxo
The Most Happiness
Temo de la Adiamuxo
Theme of the Goodbye
Kuro
Run
45 minutoj
45 minutes
Rekviemo
Requiem
Temo Finala: Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo
Final Theme : Night of the Galactic Railroad
Regards,
Barnaby
PS. Am I correct in assuming kuproverto means coppertop?
"Donald J. Harlow" <do...@donh.best.vwh.net> wrote in message
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Arnold Victor at Earthlink News
kuproverto wrote:
>Thanks Don for the reply. I've tried to locate a copy of the DVD but can
>only find Japenese versions. From where did you buy yours?
>
>I've incorporated the new words and interpreted the word order a bit for
>some of the track names. Would you say I'm near the mark with these new
>translations?
>
>Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo
>Night of the Galactic Railroad
>
>Muziko de Honoso Haruomi
>Music of Honoso Haruomi
>
>La cxeftitolo
>The Main Title
>
>Temo el la Mondo de la Fantazia Kvara Dimensio
>Theme from the World of the Fantastic Fourth Dimension
>
>Fantazio kaj Realo
>Fantasy and Reality
>
>En Tago Serena
>A Serene Day
>
On a Quiet Day
>
>La Kanto de la Rondiro de la Steloj
>The Song of the Circling of the Stars
>
>Fantazio de Giovanni
>Fantasy of Giovanni
>
>La Stelfesto de Centauro
>The Star Party of Centaur
>
>La Masto de "Tenkirin"
>The Mast of "Tenkirin"
>
>La Gxojo
>The Joy
>
Joy--some words just don't translate
>
>La Norda Kruco
>The North Cross
>
The Northern Cross--a constellation
>
>La Pliocena Marbordo
>The Pliocene Coast
>
>La Historio en Fantazio
>The History in Fantasty
>
... Fantasy
>
>La Harpo de la Paradizo
>The Harp of the Paradise
>
>La Travida Malgxojo de Giovanni
>The See Through Sadness of Giovanni
>
The Transparent...
>
>La Pleja Felicxo
>The Most Happiness
>
>Temo de la Adiamuxo
>Theme of the Goodbye
>
Theme of Good-bye--some words just don't translate
>
>Kuro
>Run
>
>45 minutoj
>45 minutes
>
>Rekviemo
>Requiem
>
>Temo Finala: Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo
>Final Theme : Night of the Galactic Railroad
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Barnaby
>
>PS. Am I correct in assuming kuproverto means coppertop?
>
Sounds good; there was a red-headed jazz singer called Bricktop.
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kuproverto
Thanks for your reply and help.
Maybe you can translate the following also? It's written on the CD cover.
Nu do, karaj, cu vi scias, kio fakte estas tiu nebula blankajo, kiun oni
nomis jen rivero jen postesigno de fluinta lakto?
Now then, expensive, ?? ?? ??, that indeed is yonder misty ??, which one
call here ?? ?? ?? of ?? milk?
Regards,
Barnaby
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Donald J. Harlow
"kuproverto" <kupro...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Arnold,
>
> Thanks for your reply and help.
>
> Maybe you can translate the following also? It's written on the CD cover.
>
> Nu do, karaj, cu vi scias, kio fakte estas tiu nebula blankajo, kiun oni
> nomis jen rivero jen postesigno de fluinta lakto?
>
> Now then, expensive, ?? ?? ??, that indeed is yonder misty ??, which one
> call here ?? ?? ?? of ?? milk?
>
English) and rarely for "expensive" (which is, more commonly,
"malmultekosta")
"c^u" - a word used to introduce a yes/no question; here equivalent to the
English particles "do" or "does"
"vi" = you
"sci'" = know, be aware of
"kio" = what (thing)
"blank'" = white
"-aj^-" = suffix indicating a tangible item or object characterized by the
root to which it is attached
"-is" - past tense, already happened
"jen" - a pointing word, like the French "voici" or "voila"; in this case
"jen ... jen" = "on this occasion (pointing) ... on that occasion (pointing
elsewhere)"
"river'" = river
"post" = after
"sign'" = sign
"flu'" = flow
"-int-" - suffix used to create past active participle; translate roughly
"which has already done (whatever is in the root)"
This is the first line from the story; see Konisi's translation which I
posted in my earlier message (and which is slightly different, but means the
same): 'Cxu vi scias do, knaboj, kio fakte estas tiu nebula blankajxo, kiun
oni nomis jen rivero jen spuro de fluinta lakto?'
(The references at the end are apparently to the trail of light across the
night sky which is known in large parts of Asia as "the Silver River" and in
much of the West as "the Milky Way"; i.e., this particular galaxy.)
> Regards,
>
> Barnaby
Paul Ebermann
> "kara" means "dear" or "darling" and is used only metaphorically (as in
> English) and rarely for "expensive" (which is, more commonly,
> "malmultekosta")
Sed sen "mal-", cxu ne?
(Aux cxu mi miskomprenis la esperanta
aux angla vorto?)
Pauxlo
Donald J. Harlow
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kuproverto
again.
Doesn't malmultekosta mean not expensive? I think the post following your
reply talks about this but I don't understand it all.
Regards,
Barnaby
"Donald J. Harlow" <do...@donh.best.vwh.net> wrote in message
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Paul Ebermann
> I thought it sounded familiar! I should have looked at your previous reply
> again.
>
> Doesn't malmultekosta mean not expensive? I think the post following your
> reply talks about this
[eo] Jes.
[en] Yes.
> but I don't understand it all.
[eo] Eble vi uzu vortaron. Mi preferas ReVon:
[en] Maybe you should use a dictionary. I
[en] prefer ReVo:
[eo] Tio estas esperanta vortaro kun esperantaj
[eo] difinoj kaj tradukoj en aliaj lingvoj.
[en] This is a Esperanto-dictionary with definitions
[en] in Esperanto and translations in other languages.
[eo] Por lerni esperanton, mi rekomendas (se vi
[eo] havas vondozan komputilon) la "Kurso de Esperanto"
[eo] el Brazilio, kie uzeblas multaj lingvoj.
[en] In order to learn Esperanto, mi recommends
[en] (if you have a windows-computer) the "Kurso de
[en] Esperanto" from Brazil, which you can use in
[en] many languages.
http://www.cursodeesperanto.com.br/
Pauxlo
Frank Obits
<Paul-E...@gmx.de> wrote:
>"kuproverto" skribis:
>
>> I thought it sounded familiar! I should have looked at your previous reply
>> again.
>>
>> Doesn't malmultekosta mean not expensive? I think the post following your
>> reply talks about this
>
>[eo] Jes.
>[en] Yes.
>
>> but I don't understand it all.
>
>[eo] Eble vi uzu vortaron. Mi preferas ReVon:
>[en] Maybe you should use a dictionary. I
>[en] prefer ReVo:
>
>http://purl.org/NET/voko/revo
Thanks for the link. Now I know what the word "firsto" means, and the
Esperanto explaination makes a lot more sense than the literal English
translation. The coping of the mountain??
kuproverto
Regards,
Barnaby
"Paul Ebermann" <Paul-E...@gmx.de> wrote in message
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Martin Green
The following are my suggested corrections. More learned Esperantists than
me may have other suggestions.
> La c\^eftitolo
> The ??
Main Title
>
> Temo el la Mondo de la Fantazia Kvara Dimensio
> Theme from the World of the Fantastic Fourth Dimension
>
> Fantazio kaj Realo
> Fantasy and Realism??
Fantasy and Reality
>
> En Tago Serena
> A Day Serene
In a Serene Day
>
> La Kanto de la Rondiro de la Steloj
> The song of the ?? of the ??
Rondiro appears to be a combination of the roots "rond" and "ir." The usual
rule requires that the second root is the more important. "rond" means
"round, circle" and "ir" means "go" thus "rondiro" translates "the going
around" or "Therefore, the closest meaning would likely be "orbit."
Therefore, the title means "The Song of the Orbit of the Stars."
>
> Fantazio de Giovanni
> Fantasy of Giovanni
>
> La Stelfesto de Centauro
> The ?? of Centaur
The Star Festival of Centaurus
>
> La Masto de "Tenkirin"
> The Mast of "Tenkirin"
>
> La G\^ojo
> The joy
>
> La Nordo Kruco
> The North Cross
Probably was "La Norda Kruco" in which case the meaning would be "The
Northern Cross."
>
> La Pliocena Marbordo
> The ?? Coast
>
The Pleistocene Seacoast.
> La Historio Fantazio
> The History Fantastic
Esperanto does not normally permit two nouns to be put together that way.
Therefore, either it had to be La Historia Fantazio (The Historical Fantasy)
or La Historio Fantazia (The Fantastic History.)
>
> La Harpo de la Paradizo
> The harp of the paradise
The Harp of Paradise.
>
> La Travida Malg\^ojo de Giovanni
> The ?? Sadness of Giovanni
Travidi means "to see through." However, transparent is usually rendered by
"travidebla." Literal translation would seem to be "The see-through
Unhappiness of Giovanni" but more likely was meant to be "The Transparent
Unhappiness of Giovanni."
>
> La Pleja Felic\^o
> The ?? Happiness
The Greatest Joy
>
> Temo de la Adiau\^o
> Theme of the Goodbye
Theme of Saying Goodbye
>
> Kuro
> ??
A Race
>
> 45 minutoj
> 45 minutes
>
> Rekviemo
> ??
Requiem
>
> Temo Finala: Nokto de la Galaksia Fervojo
> Theme Final?? : Night of the Galactic Railway
Final Theme: Night of the Galactic Railway.
>
Martin Green