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----- Original Message -----
From: "mcs" <m...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.republican
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 3:06 PM
Subject: Warning level of pollution in NE


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mcs" <m...@yahoo.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.support.asthma
> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 2:58 PM
> Subject: Warning level pollution, record temps, over and over
>
>
>> third warning level day not a peep on the news. totally ignored. gasping
>> for
>> breath , had to go to emergency ward. We get this practically
>> everyday,in summer,,is
>> this world devoid of concern or care, what the fk is happening. It may
>> not
>> be happening where you are but you can wonder why they even have the
>> numbers
>> from epa when they ignore doing anything about it. This is not what I
>> envisioned the US would be growing up. I am living in godless mean
>> tempered
>> society controlled by both democrats and republicans who don't care .
>> again day after day in east coast , home values lowest in my city and we
>> have more days of pollution, more people needing meds, more people have
>> to
>> pay for meds for something that is not their fault after being poisoned
>> with
>> this poison and then they have lowest values for their homes in the
>> US..all
>> is this for energy companies. Murderers!
>> Media likes to ignore what is hurting people as long as they can profit
>> at
>> their expense. Al Gores book says media don't care, and even actress
>> Anjolie
>> says,,, media makes things like her too important and ignores important
>> things..
>> the news and doesn't worry about concerns from people. Yates economic
>> professor , new book describes peoples pain from pollution that society
>> ignores in metropolitan cities inUS.
>> doctors say they don't know what other factors cause asthma? Perhaps they
>> don't want to know cause then you migh
>>
>>
>>
>>> doctors say they don't know what other factors cause asthma? Perhaps
>>> they
>>> don't want to know cause then you might not need their care!
>>> ">>> why can't I get any help? what is going on?
>>>> where they don't tell or care about harm from pollution? its amazing
>>>> they
>>>> know the readings and scientific names of disease but dont' do any
>>>> studies
>>>> to show cause and effect to perhaps the most important thing in life to
>>>> many people affected. its like they don't exist or don't care one iota
>>>> about human life.
>>>>>> what has this country become? I hope someone gets to read this.. The
>>>>>> news
>>>>>> stations have coopted to most wealthy and take overs and don't care
>>>>>> about what is important or who is affected or why and increbibly
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> often rather advertise to those who are affected to capitalize and
>>>>>> profit
>>>>>> from their pain..The biggest companies and doctors get to tell you
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> causes what and to ignore everything else. but doesn't tell the
>>>>>> public
>>>>>> why people need what they
>>>>>> are targeting to advertise too , and what I thought would be
>>>>>> perceived in fairness and objectivity is ignored like affects from
>>>>>> pollution. Maybe because they don't want to pay for helping people
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> out of harms way and there is no mediation to treat it. Once your
>>>>>> damaged little to do.. My pain and pleas for
>>>>>> help go unanswered. The world as I see it is extremely scary and
>>>>>> different then how I perceived it growing up 50 years ago.
>>>>>> Subject: Pm.2.5 reading so far, 122 and guess what our weather people
>>>>>> call
>>>>>>> this beautiful. I wonder if I perceive this as choking from
>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>> a solitary experience, caused from the 12 years i smoked , maybe I
>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>> cancer or its the additional added co2 in air or added car exhaust
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> more cars but whatever it
>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>> beyond affecting me and thats just one of the points I am trying to
>>>>>>> make.. There is no suffering for me without particulate pollution
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> reaches mild or worse. Just when this pollution they wrongly call
>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>> reaches that point, the trees go down, the older people stopped
>>>>>>> running,
>>>>>>> my asthma is automatic, and tens of companies and lung centers that
>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>> use to advertise now know harm and start advertising enmass w while
>>>>>>> the news companies
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> politicians totally ignore this poisoning and tens of thousands of
>>>>>>> people need asthma meds and services the pharmacies advertise . A
>>>>>>> coincidence or knows affects from environmental toxins that are
>>>>>>> allowed
>>>>>>> to exist in some metros without a concern in the world who is
>>>>>>> choking
>>>>>>> or what to do about it.. Even doctors ignore it. Idon't , Al Gore
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> ,people like economic professor Yates new book don'
>>> t ignoe it. so is the Is this just a coincidence and personal
>>> experience
>>> or
>>> a conspiracy to not do anything for most people affected the most?
>>>>>>> Heck maybe they replaced the ability to care about harm with free
>>>>>>> porn.
>>>>>>> Anything is possible when your choking in your own country or city
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> no one cares to stop it. to all who have good air consider yourself
>>>>>>> lucky, if you don't know how
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> air compares, find out ! If you get many days that EPA calls
>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>> Particulate pollution or worse,
>>>>>>> worse, I bet everything i own you will have more chances of getting
>>>>>>> different illnesses faster then those who don't. or eventually over
>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>> but are too young to perceive the consequences yet.. What I have
>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> almost undescribable with a news media and health departments rather
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> buying into 10k walks for cancer clinics and spending your money to
>>>>>>> pay
>>>>>>> clinics to buy more space while making you pay after they poison you
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> don't tell you how.. There is virtually no
>>>>>>> protection from this . This is forced on people and over time causes
>>>>>>> harm
>>>>>>> ... much harm is my added assumption . Whats worse is I believe
>>>>>>> the severity of these illnesses are much worse and they are
>>>>>>> irreversible
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> you can't stop it like from deciding to quit smoking or eatting
>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>> Please tell everyone you know if this makes any sense. I write this
>>>>>>> because I care about people unlike some in power ( is it religion,
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> causes the idea its ok to harm your own people now?) .This
>>>>>>> pollution invades your space in many areas of the country because of
>>>>>>> wind
>>>>>>> distribution or lack of and because of close promixmiticy of engine
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> diesel and industry exhaust and coal dust from producers as far away
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>> state . and from politicians who decide who should be exposed or not
>>>>>>> exposed, while most affected are ignored. The continued poisoning of
>>>>>>> millions of people for status quo, rich profits and energy comes at
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> expense of your lost health or life sometimes and if your not
>>>>>>> affected
>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>> fight for those that are and if your in it, there is no escaping its
>>>>>>> affects. Many people might live long but in worse shape. Everything
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> have seen and know in life says what I just said is true. People can
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> exposed to this in neighborhoods with cities with good air but just
>>>>>>> concentrated in high traffic or near mall or fast food with idling
>>>>>>> engines or polluted streets and its likely if you are, you will be
>>>>>>> affected. Do they go over the risks? No because they don't want to
>>>>>>> scare
>>>>>>> you and they want to keep jobs going by treating people after they
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> poisoned. I can't think of another reason they allow such poisons to
>>>>>>> exist.. I ask for your help.
>>>>>> ,If anyone wanted to show proof more then the
>>>>>>> dozens of links I have found on the net, I think I can and other
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> they wanted to.... Look up particulate polltion and your health. I
>>>>>>> can name ten ways to compare the health of people exposed to this
>>>>>>> compared
>>>>>>> to those in good air,,
>>>>>>> and I assure, you more then I know about life itself people are
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> harmed
>>>>>>> greatly in the name of energy and there doesn't seem like anything
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> about it unless people move or get your politicians to care. Till
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> you at the pharamacy.or hospital, if your family member or friend is
>>>>>>> affected. ,. Please the media wants you to worry
>>>>>>> about 10k walks for cancer but not who get its and why.more... Many
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the same
>>>>>>> people who get cancer do so by not having health agencies warn them
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> prolonged exposure to this pollution so help me god. There will
>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> cure for something that wears down your lungs and every organ in
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> body
>>>>>>> from pollution NEVER don't buy hype to build hospitals , and don't
>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>> till they tell you why you need them more and in certain location.s
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> uncovered the biggest conspiracy in the US .
>>>>>> If your in my area,,,,expect no team in your area to win any
>>>>>> championships.( at least who are aerobically conditioned and lived
>>>>>> here
>>>>>> for at least four years) but this is true in any city that gets this
>>>>>> much particulate pollution ,not just mine
>>>>>>> Even though there are 5 million population and thousands of
>>>>>>> teams...
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the most part have not won anything for years)see
>>>>>>> people unhappy. see people paying more money for this energy only to
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> have to pay for healthcare after they are poisoned . See the least
>>>>>>> amount
>>>>>>> of people graduating college or high school . see the most asthma,
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> most respirtory deaths and most prescriptions see, the most days we
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> moderate particulate pollution...see higher morbidity and cancer...
>>>>>>> Thats
>>>>>>> if your lucky to
>>>>>>> get healthcare and know where to look for links the news media or
>>>>>>> politicians don't tell you about.. In case you don't believe, there
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> ways to compare
>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>> stat, like morbidity by age, cancers by age and sex, hospital
>>>>>>> admission
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> year and sex, 10k results with people who lived here for over 30
>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>> ( I
>>>>>>> did that and was astounded with results),
>>>>>>> comparing health of people near idling cars living near shopping
>>>>>>> centers
>>>>>>> and on crowded streets to clean
>>>>>>> air places and all in all , you can lose up to 16 years of life or
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>> health. . I know people who are 86 but never had any good health
>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>> 60.
>>>>>>> choose to get you or your family out of harms way and pressure
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> politicians, I expect some don't care one iota . Why did the Pres
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> rule you can't sue these people. Why can't I sue if this is exactly
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> causes my disability?
>>>>>>> right now our particulate pollution has shut down my system to
>>>>>>> breathe
>>>>>>> easily and not one person cares about me for doing what? selling
>>>>>>> drugs,
>>>>>>> hurting people?
>>>>>>> gasping for breath and one reason ONLY: the pollution levels reach
>>>>>>> moderate or
>>>>>>> worse every time.., get me out of it and
>>>>>>> I can breathe., Its imposed torture and please believe cause it
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> affect
>>>>>>> you the same way it won't affect you in other ways eventually. My
>>>>>>> tests
>>>>>>> say it does, no one
>>>>>>> escapes the damages if comparisons are met and people were able to
>>>>>>> compare the exact state of health. Epa constantly warns people in
>>>>>>> this air not to exeercise if sensitive. BS, do they warn them they
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>> die
>>>>>>> or have this pollution lodge in their system to cause heart disease
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> respiratory disease? If so how much, how many years are you likely
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> see damage? Why no follow up? why not stop it instead at that point
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> does damage? Why bring out a chart claiming clean air without
>>>>>>> telling
>>>>>>> people only if your in certain environments!. My life is basically
>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>> how to get out of harms way without losing everything i own and
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> street. There is no intent to work cause the air don't make
>>>>>>> concentration
>>>>>>> too worthy after long time and little sleep.. I just want to vent
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> explain how people are
>>>>>>> allowed to get poisoned, and tens of pharmacies and lung centers in
>>>>>>> place and there to advertise
>>>>>>> in my polluted areas, and a new media never warns or tells its
>>>>>>> citizens
>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>> they need so many meds and hospitals.to begin with and politicians
>>>>>>> unable to care to stop it or the consequences. I am now living in
>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>> concentration camp. Akin to paid poisoning where you
>>>>>>> lose
>>>>>>> everything you own to this poisoning and its ongoing. What I said
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> real. In
>>>>>>> addition I am sure, people sleep less good in this so called
>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>> poisoning, infants cry more ( thats just my assumption from what I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> seen) and quality of life is worse. I think everything is
>>>>>>> compromised
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> people who are exposed to this consistently. Politicians say they
>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> don't do practical things to stop it faster. In my area I am more
>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> see ten reports on ear and chin rennovation then the horrific
>>>>>>> damages
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> constant soot and particulate pollution that invades this area.
>>>>>>> Finally
>>>>>>> if you dont' believe that
>>>>>>> constant particulate pollution don't kill or sicken I invite anyone
>>>>>>> objective to test my air filters and then compare that to the air
>>>>>>> 9/11
>>>>>>> got.
>>>>>>> or damage from smoking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> gorgeous.
>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070524/ap_on_re_us/attacks_health
>>>>>>>> in addition my area has most asthma.. no one cares and most
>>>>>>>> respiratory deaths... what world am I in? I ask religious leaders
>>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>>> nothing is done?
>>>> I don't even like the word global warming because it masks the dangers
>>>> in
>>>> the air that are affecting people now ( for some reason).
>>>>>>>> After you read how people die from dust, try to understand thats
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> pollution although probably less intense that people downwind from
>>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>>> get for much longer periods of time. People have to demand that
>>>>>>>> damage
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> is provable must be allowed in court in much the same way the
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>> damaged from WTC dust are. just because no one had any desire to
>>>>>>>> prove
>>>>>>>> consequences before don't mean the damages are not there Why are
>>>>>>>> ceratin
>>>>>>>> people protected and certain
>>>>>>>> people not protected. The people with the most asthma and
>>>>>>>> respiratory
>>>>>>>> deaths
>>>>>>>> and prescription then every city in the nation show damage
>>>>>>>> conclusions.People downwind no matter where they are
>>>>>>>> and often have the most consistent pollution should be able to sue
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>>> this madness and have the same rights of those non smokers and
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> harmed
>>>>>>>> from too much dust from industry or 9/11.
>>>>>>>> We already know that damage from pollution is a known entity why
>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>> damage that shows two air filters getting black be compared with
>>>>>>>> air
>>>>>>>> filters
>>>>>>>> in clean air city and compare hospital admissions, rates for asthma
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> cancer , stress tests etc? I have done some comparisons and its
>>>>>>>> outrageous
>>>>>>>> that people in worse areas have to absorb this while being
>>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> graphs to show cleaner area with rest of nation without ways to
>>>>>>>> seperate
>>>>>>>> those who are most affected. There is no way to single
>>>>>>>> out people like me who have their bodies shut down from this
>>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> why?. What
>>>>>>>> the fk is going on that we only have lung centers to go to and pay
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>> we are poisoned!!!! murderers!!!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> atlanta number one or two for asthma and poof another yg person dies
>>>>>> after
>>>>> living there for long time. You never hear famous die off the coast of
>>>>> Cape
>>>>> Cod or in clean air in Seattle like this do you? Headline ex President
>>>>> Ford
>>>>> dies at age 51 off the coast of california (clean air) not
>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070501/ts_nm/usa_air_dc_1
>>>>> and around six more links where cities on east coast are on top ten
>>>>> list
>>>>> for
>>>>> ozone or particulates or soot or affects from pollution . Yet they say
>>>>> they
>>>>> are reducing things? God forbid these people had this poison effect
>>>>> them..
>>>>> they wouldn't be so fast accusing people of complaining for no good
>>>>> reason.
>>>>> Imagine the insensiitivity of politicians and energy whores to poison
>>>>> people
>>>>> and get away with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Help someone help
>>>>>> SO HELP ME GOD
>>>>>> and I bet you everythingI own it can be proved. For those who think I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> paranoid show me the tests that don't show what I am saying. I did
>>>>>> tests
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> we are getting poisoned..
>>>>>> the people downwind or in moderate or worse particulate pollution are
>>>>>> usually in worse shape and the defining factor? My lungs shut down
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> need asthma inhalers and still I am totally disabled one so called
>>>>>> Moderate particulate pollution constantly reach my area. They call
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> life? They are poisoning me and if not for them I would be fine. I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to then pay to treat conditions that are not my fault!!!!! They
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> comparisons
>>>>>> to show even more damage from particulate pollution. the tests I did
>>>>>> show
>>>>>> the biggest conspiracy to allow poisoning ever in the us. they can do
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> if they want and I can name the tests to conclusively show how energy
>>>>>> comparnies and politicians who don't protect kids and families are
>>>>>> murdering
>>>>>> you today so help me God. . Except of cigs and diet there is not a
>>>>>> bigger
>>>>>> killer or producer of illness today ongoing like moderate or worse
>>>>>> particulate pollution
>>>>>> UNbelievable
>>>>>> about conspiracy....like I said, I can only rationalize base on the
>>>>>> facts
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> I see them. Millions of people partake in crime each year and
>>>>>> millions
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> get away with it. When particulate pollution closes my body down in
>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>> range, one has to wonder how they determine thats " moderate" ! In
>>>>>> fact
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> the US govor / other agenecies hs said moderate particulate pollution
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> /
>>>>>> or causes harm. They say 1/3 of the people in the US get yearly
>>>>>> amounts
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> pollution that causes tens of thousands of premature deaths. They
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> define though what exactly the readings are , or where exactly these
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> tend to reside or warn people to stay away..do
>>>>>> they ? When up to one Quarter of kids in some areas have asthma and
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> tried to see a connection between particulate pollution or what to
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> , that says
>>>>>> conspiracy. too for all the above reasons. They have drug companies
>>>>>> advertising day and night for nebulizers and one after another
>>>>>> cancer
>>>>>> walk for research but not a peep why its ok to poison people first.
>>>>>> There are no magic cancer cures. its often a slow breakdown of body
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> toxins like particulate pollution and all the cancer walks the media
>>>>>> likes to promote isn't going to stop it if you don't stop the
>>>>>> malicious
>>>>>> murder of people first for jobs or energy or both. The people who are
>>>>>> killing people are getting away with making money for murder! but
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> one media firm telling
>>>>>> people why we have most asthma! that needs those drugs.. that suggest
>>>>>> conspiracy. Finally when my body shuts down and air filter turns
>>>>>> black,,
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> 27 days and politicians and media ignores pleas for help faster even
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> some politicians admit we need to do more.. I not only
>>>>>> believe in conspiracies I believe in legalized murder for energy
>>>>>> companies..
>>>>>> I know the people who promote policies that keep these things in
>>>>>> place
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> made billions doing so while sponsering legislation where you can't
>>>>>> sue
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> if you prove damages sometimes. Anyway I do believe in conspiracies
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> more important the research to compare peoples health between
>>>>>> polluted
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> non polluted areas (particulate ) and if done I assert there will
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> biggest differences in consequences then most anything can possibly
>>>>>> be.
>>>>>> one of the biggest conspiracies of all time going on now is to allow
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> poisoning of people , read on why its allowed. Tell family members
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> leave
>>>>>>> if your area gets this poison. I have studied this for ten years and
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>> convinces people are not protected equally in the US. People have
>>>>>>> suggested
>>>>>>> those in harms way should move, but how do they move when many don't
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> whats causing the poisons or conditions they have to begin with or
>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>> afford to move? Do you tell nonsmokers to move or do prevent smokers
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> forcing their smoke on others.
>>>>>>> This particulate pollution Literally involunatarily forces me to get
>>>>>>> asthma.. gasp for breath. It might
>>>>>>> not do that for everyone but over time, over and over again I have
>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the vast majority in its way... ishows that it
>>>>>>> causes damage to people . yet no one can sue?
>>>>>>> If I could prove conclusively how they conspire to limit speech or
>>>>>>> consequences from particulate pollution, I wouldn't be writing here,
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be a lawyer in a courtroom , suing not only for damages but trying
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> prosecute for murder.. promoting policies that are causing tens of
>>>>>>> thousands
>>>>>>> to die early or get sick is murder.. worse then if you take a gun
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> "mcs" <m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:h_%5i.65$2v5.59@trndny06...
>>>>>> News media don't mention the numbes says days like today beautiful ,
>>>>>> lies
>>>>>> to promote people not to get scared.. the most amazing conspiracy to
>>>>>> keep
>>>>>> damages from people so help me god I ever say.
>>>>>> "mcs" <m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:FX%5i.64$2v5.33@trndny06...
>>>>>>> News media in my area conspire to not tell harm, yet excepts
>>>>>>> millions
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> ads to treat people after they are harmed.
>>>>>>> "mcs" <m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:CV%5i.268$106.223@trndny02...
>>>>>>>> except for Cal and Ny mayor most people don't care one iota about
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> what has this country become. The news coopted to most wealthy.
>>>>>>>> Subject: Pm.2.5 reading so far, 122 and guess what our weather
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>>>> this beautiful. I wonder if I perceive this from the few yeas i
>>>>>>>>> smoke
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> added co2 in air or added car exhaust from more cars but whatever
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>>>> beyond affecting me. Just when this pollution they wrongly call
>>>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>>>> reaches that point, the trees go down, the older people stopped
>>>>>>>>> running,
>>>>>>>>> my asthma is automatic, and tens of companies and lung centers
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>> use to advertise now know harm and advertise while the news
>>>>>>>>> companies
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> politicians totally ignore this poisoning. Is this just a
>>>>>>>>> coincidence?
>>>>>>>>> to all who have good air consider yourself lucky, if you don't
>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> air compares, find out ! If you get many days that EPA calls
>>>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>>>> Particulate pollution or worse,
>>>>>>>>> worse, I bet everything i own you will have more chances of
>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>> different illnesses faster then those who don't. . There is
>>>>>>>>> virtually
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>> protection from this . This is forced on people and over time
>>>>>>>>> causes
>>>>>>>>> harm
>>>>>>>>> ... much harm is my added assumption . Whats worse is I believe
>>>>>>>>> the severity of these illnesses are much worse and they are
>>>>>>>>> irreversible
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> you can't stop it like from deciding to not smoke or eatting
>>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>>> Please tell everyone you know if this makes any sense. I write
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> because I care about people unlike some in power ( is it religion,
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> causes the idea its ok to harm your own people now?) .This
>>>>>>>>> pollution invades your space in many areas of the country because
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> wind
>>>>>>>>> distribution or lack of and because of close promixmiticy of
>>>>>>>>> engine
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> diesel and industry exhaust and coal dust from producers as far
>>>>>>>>> away
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>> state . and from politicians who decide who should be exposed or
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> exposed, while most affected are ignored. The continued poisoning
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> millions of people for status quo, rich profits and energy comes
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> expense of your lost health sometimes and if your not affected
>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>> fight for those that are. I ask for your help.
>>>>>>>> ,If anyone wanted to show proof more then the
>>>>>>>>> dozens of links I have found on the net, I think I can and other
>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> they wanted to.... Look up particulate polltion and your health. I
>>>>>>>>> can name ten ways to compare the health of people exposed to this
>>>>>>>>> compared
>>>>>>>>> to those in good air,,
>>>>>>>>> and I assure, you more then I know about life itself people are
>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>> harmed
>>>>>>>>> greatly in the name of energy and there doesn't seem like anything
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> about it unless people move or get your politicians to care. Till
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>> you at the pharamacy.or hospital, ,. Please the media wants you to
>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>>>>>>> about 10k walks for cancer but not who get its and why.. Many of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>> people who get cancer do so by not having health agencies warn
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> prolonged exposure to this pollution so help me god. There will
>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>> be a
>>>>>>>>> cure for something that wears down your lungs and every organ in
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> body
>>>>>>>>> from pollution NEVER don't buy hype to build hospitals , and don't
>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>> till they tell you why you need them more and in certain
>>>>>>>>> location.s
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> uncovered the biggest conspiracy in the US .
>>>>>>>> If your in my area,,,,expect no team in your area to win any
>>>>>>>> championships.
>>>>>>>>> Even though there are 5 million population and thousands of
>>>>>>>>> temas...
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the most part have not won anything for years)see
>>>>>>>>> people unhappy. see people paying more money for this energy only
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> have to pay for healthcare after they are poisoned . See the least
>>>>>>>>> amount
>>>>>>>>> of people graduating college or high school . see the most asthma,
>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> most respirtory deaths and most prescriptions see, the most days
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>> moderate particulate pollution...see higher morbidity and
>>>>>>>>> cancer...
>>>>>>>>> Thats
>>>>>>>>> if your lucky to
>>>>>>>>> get healthcare. In case you don't believe, there are ways to
>>>>>>>>> compare
>>>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>>>> stat, like morbidity by age, cancers by age and sex, hospital
>>>>>>>>> admission by
>>>>>>>>> year and sex, 10k results with people who lived here for over 30
>>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>> ( I
>>>>>>>>> did that and was astounded with results),
>>>>>>>>> comparing health of people near idling cars living near shopping
>>>>>>>>> centers
>>>>>>>>> and on crowded streets to clean
>>>>>>>>> air places and all in all , you can lose up to 16 years of life
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>> health. I know people who are 86 but never had any good health
>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>> 60.
>>>>>>>>> choose to get you or your family out of harms way and pressure
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> politicians, I expect some don't care one iota . Why did the Pres
>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> rule you can't sue these people. Why can't I sue if this is
>>>>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> causes my disability?
>>>>>>>>> right now our particulate pollution has shut down my system to
>>>>>>>>> breathe
>>>>>>>>> easy,
>>>>>>>>> gasping for breath and one reason the pollution levels reach
>>>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> worse every time.., get me out of it and
>>>>>>>>> I can breathe, Its imposed torture and please believe cause it
>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>> affect
>>>>>>>>> you the same way it won't in other ways. My tests say it does, no
>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> escapes the damages if comparisons are met. Epa constantly warns
>>>>>>>>> people in
>>>>>>>>> this air not to exeercise if sensitive. BS, do they warn them they
>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>> die
>>>>>>>>> or have this pollution lodge in their system to cause heart
>>>>>>>>> disease
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> respiratory disease? If so why not stop it. My life is basically
>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>> how to get out of harms way without losing everything i own and
>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> street. There is no intent to work cause the air don't make
>>>>>>>>> concentration
>>>>>>>>> too worthy after long time. I just want to vent and explain how
>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> allowed to get poisoned, and tens of pharmacies and lung centers
>>>>>>>>> advertise
>>>>>>>>> in my polluted areas, and a new media never warns or tells its
>>>>>>>>> citizens
>>>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>>>> they need so many meds and hospitals. Akin to paid poisoning where
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> lose
>>>>>>>>> everything you own to this poisoning is ongoing. What I said is
>>>>>>>>> real.
>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>> addition I am sure, people sleep less good in this so called
>>>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>>>> poisoning, infants cry more ( thats just my assumption from what I
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> seen) and quality of life is worse. I think everything is
>>>>>>>>> comparomised
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> people who are exposed to this consistently. Politicians say they
>>>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> don't do practical things to stop it faster. In my area I am more
>>>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> see ten reports on ear and chin rennovation then the horrific
>>>>>>>>> damages
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> constant soot and particulate pollution Finally if you dont'
>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> constant particulate pollution don't kill or sicken I invite
>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>> objective to test my air filters and then compare that to the air
>>>>>>>>> 9/11
>>>>>>>>> got.
>>>>>>>>> or damage from smoking.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> gorgeous.
>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070524/ap_on_re_us/attacks_health
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After you read how people die from dust, try to understand thats
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>> pollution although probably less intense that people downwind
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>>>>> get for much longer periods of time. People have to demand that
>>>>>>>>>> damage
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> is provable must be allowed in court in much the same way the
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>> damaged from WTC dust are. just because no one had any desire to
>>>>>>>>>> prove
>>>>>>>>>> consequences before don't mean the damages are not there Why are
>>>>>>>>>> ceratin
>>>>>>>>>> people protected and certain
>>>>>>>>>> people not protected. The people with the most asthma and
>>>>>>>>>> respiratory
>>>>>>>>>> deaths
>>>>>>>>>> and prescription then every city in the nation show damage
>>>>>>>>>> conclusions.People downwind no matter where they are
>>>>>>>>>> and often have the most consistent pollution should be able to
>>>>>>>>>> sue
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>>>>> this madness and have the same rights of those non smokers and
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> harmed
>>>>>>>>>> from too much dust from industry or 9/11.
>>>>>>>>>> We already know that damage from pollution is a known entity why
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> damage that shows two air filters getting black be compared with
>>>>>>>>>> air
>>>>>>>>>> filters
>>>>>>>>>> in clean air city and compare hospital admissions, rates for
>>>>>>>>>> asthma
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> cancer , stress tests etc? I have done some comparisons and its
>>>>>>>>>> outrageous
>>>>>>>>>> that people in worse areas have to absorb this while being
>>>>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> graphs to show cleaner area with rest of nation without ways to
>>>>>>>>>> seperate
>>>>>>>>>> those who are most affected. There is no way to single
>>>>>>>>>> out people like me who have their bodies shut down from this
>>>>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> why?. What
>>>>>>>>>> the fk is going on that we only have lung centers to go to and
>>>>>>>>>> pay
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>> >>we are poisoned!!!! murderers!!!!! just because it is not
>>>>>>>>>> >>affecting
>>>>>>>> you dont' mean its not affecting others.I have been in good
>>>>>>>> communites and good air and for the most part they dont' care one
>>>>>>>> iota if others suffer in bad air in their own country. We have been
>>>>>>>> coopted by money and media who makes what is important , not which
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> actually happening.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "mcs" <m...@yahoo.com>
>> Newsgroups: alt.college.fraternities,talk.environment,alt.politics
>> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 11:22 AM
>> Subject: The biggest conspiracy to allow poisoning in US ongoing
>>
>>
>>> Media likes to ignore implication all except Al Gores book says media
>>> not
>>> concerned with average american and even actress Anjolie says that,,
>>> media
>>> makes
>>> the news and doesn't worry about concerns from people. Yates economic
>>> professor , new book describes peoples pain from pollution that society
>>> ignores in metropolitan cities inUS and affect commerce
>>> doctors say they don't know what other factors cause asthma? Perhaps
>>> they
>>> don't want to know cause then you migh
>>> "mcs" <m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hwb6i.760$9G3.308@trnddc07...
>>>> why can't I get any help? what is going on?
>>>> where they don't tell or care about harm from pollution? its amazing
>>>> they
>>>> know the readings and scientific names of disease but dont' do any
>>>> studies
>>>> to show cause and effect to perhaps the most important thing in life to
>>>> many peope
>>>>>> what has this country become? I hope someone gets to read this.. The
>>>>>> news
>>>>>> stations have coopted to most wealthy and take overs and don't care
>>>>>> about what is important or who is affected or why and increbibly
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> often rather advertise to those who are affected to capitalize and
>>>>>> profit
>>>>>> from their pain..The biggest companies and doctors get to tell you
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> causes what and to ignore everything else. but doesn't tell the
>>>>>> public
>>>>>> why people need what they
>>>>>> are targeting to advertise too , and what I thought would be
>>>>>> perceived in fairness and objectivity is ignored like affects from
>>>>>> pollution. Maybe because they don't want to pay for helping people
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> out of harms way and there is no mediation to treat it. Once your
>>>>>> damaged little to do.. My pain and pleas for
>>>>>> help go unanswered. The world as I see it is extremely scary and
>>>>>> different then how I perceived it growing up 50 years ago.
>>>>>> Subject: Pm.2.5 reading so far, 122 and guess what our weather people
>>>>>> call
>>>>>>> this beautiful. I wonder if I perceive this as choking from
>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>> a solitary experience, caused from the 12 years i smoked , maybe I
>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>> cancer or its the additional added co2 in air or added car exhaust
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> more cars but whatever it
>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>> beyond affecting me and thats just one of the points I am trying to
>>>>>>> make.. There is no suffering for me without particulate pollution
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> reaches mild or worse. Just when this pollution they wrongly call
>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>> reaches that point, the trees go down, the older people stopped
>>>>>>> running,
>>>>>>> my asthma is automatic, and tens of companies and lung centers that
>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>> use to advertise now know harm and start advertising enmass w while
>>>>>>> the news companies
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> politicians totally ignore this poisoning and tens of thousands of
>>>>>>> people need asthma meds and services the pharmacies advertise . A
>>>>>>> coincidence or knows affects from environmental toxins that are
>>>>>>> allowed
>>>>>>> to exist in some metros without a concern in the world who is
>>>>>>> choking
>>>>>>> or what to do about it.. Even doctors ignore it. Idon't , Al Gore
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> ,people like economic professor Yates new book don'
>>> t ignoe it. so is the Is this just a coincidence and personal
>>> experience
>>> or
>>> a conspiracy to not do anything for most people affected the most?
>>>>>>> Heck maybe they replaced the ability to care about harm with free
>>>>>>> porn.
>>>>>>> Anything is possible when your choking in your own country or city
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> no one cares to stop it. to all who have good air consider yourself
>>>>>>> lucky, if you don't know how
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> air compares, find out ! If you get many days that EPA calls
>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>> Particulate pollution or worse,
>>>>>>> worse, I bet everything i own you will have more chances of getting
>>>>>>> different illnesses faster then those who don't. or eventually over
>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>> but are too young to perceive the consequences yet.. What I have
>>>>>>> seen
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> almost undescribable with a news media and health departments rather
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> buying into 10k walks for cancer clinics and spending your money to
>>>>>>> pay
>>>>>>> clinics to buy more space while making you pay after they poison you
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> don't tell you how.. There is virtually no
>>>>>>> protection from this . This is forced on people and over time causes
>>>>>>> harm
>>>>>>> ... much harm is my added assumption . Whats worse is I believe
>>>>>>> the severity of these illnesses are much worse and they are
>>>>>>> irreversible
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> you can't stop it like from deciding to quit smoking or eatting
>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>> Please tell everyone you know if this makes any sense. I write this
>>>>>>> because I care about people unlike some in power ( is it religion,
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> causes the idea its ok to harm your own people now?) .This
>>>>>>> pollution invades your space in many areas of the country because of
>>>>>>> wind
>>>>>>> distribution or lack of and because of close promixmiticy of engine
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> diesel and industry exhaust and coal dust from producers as far away
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>> state . and from politicians who decide who should be exposed or not
>>>>>>> exposed, while most affected are ignored. The continued poisoning of
>>>>>>> millions of people for status quo, rich profits and energy comes at
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> expense of your lost health or life sometimes and if your not
>>>>>>> affected
>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>> fight for those that are and if your in it, there is no escaping its
>>>>>>> affects. Many people might live long but in worse shape. Everything
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> have seen and know in life says what I just said is true. People can
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> exposed to this in neighborhoods with cities with good air but just
>>>>>>> concentrated in high traffic or near mall or fast food with idling
>>>>>>> engines or polluted streets and its likely if you are, you will be
>>>>>>> affected. Do they go over the risks? No because they don't want to
>>>>>>> scare
>>>>>>> you and they want to keep jobs going by treating people after they
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> poisoned. I can't think of another reason they allow such poisons to
>>>>>>> exist.. I ask for your help.
>>>>>> ,If anyone wanted to show proof more then the
>>>>>>> dozens of links I have found on the net, I think I can and other
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> they wanted to.... Look up particulate polltion and your health. I
>>>>>>> can name ten ways to compare the health of people exposed to this
>>>>>>> compared
>>>>>>> to those in good air,,
>>>>>>> and I assure, you more then I know about life itself people are
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> harmed
>>>>>>> greatly in the name of energy and there doesn't seem like anything
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> about it unless people move or get your politicians to care. Till
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> you at the pharamacy.or hospital, if your family member or friend is
>>>>>>> affected. ,. Please the media wants you to worry
>>>>>>> about 10k walks for cancer but not who get its and why.more... Many
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the same
>>>>>>> people who get cancer do so by not having health agencies warn them
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> prolonged exposure to this pollution so help me god. There will
>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> cure for something that wears down your lungs and every organ in
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> body
>>>>>>> from pollution NEVER don't buy hype to build hospitals , and don't
>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>> till they tell you why you need them more and in certain location.s
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> uncovered the biggest conspiracy in the US .
>>>>>> If your in my area,,,,expect no team in your area to win any
>>>>>> championships.( at least who are aerobically conditioned and lived
>>>>>> here
>>>>>> for at least four years) but this is true in any city that gets this
>>>>>> much particulate pollution ,not just mine
>>>>>>> Even though there are 5 million population and thousands of
>>>>>>> teams...
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the most part have not won anything for years)see
>>>>>>> people unhappy. see people paying more money for this energy only to
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> have to pay for healthcare after they are poisoned . See the least
>>>>>>> amount
>>>>>>> of people graduating college or high school . see the most asthma,
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> most respirtory deaths and most prescriptions see, the most days we
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> moderate particulate pollution...see higher morbidity and cancer...
>>>>>>> Thats
>>>>>>> if your lucky to
>>>>>>> get healthcare and know where to look for links the news media or
>>>>>>> politicians don't tell you about.. In case you don't believe, there
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> ways to compare
>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>> stat, like morbidity by age, cancers by age and sex, hospital
>>>>>>> admission
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> year and sex, 10k results with people who lived here for over 30
>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>> ( I
>>>>>>> did that and was astounded with results),
>>>>>>> comparing health of people near idling cars living near shopping
>>>>>>> centers
>>>>>>> and on crowded streets to clean
>>>>>>> air places and all in all , you can lose up to 16 years of life or
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>> health. . I know people who are 86 but never had any good health
>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>> 60.
>>>>>>> choose to get you or your family out of harms way and pressure
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> politicians, I expect some don't care one iota . Why did the Pres
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> rule you can't sue these people. Why can't I sue if this is exactly
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>> causes my disability?
>>>>>>> right now our particulate pollution has shut down my system to
>>>>>>> breathe
>>>>>>> easily and not one person cares about me for doing what? selling
>>>>>>> drugs,
>>>>>>> hurting people?
>>>>>>> gasping for breath and one reason ONLY: the pollution levels reach
>>>>>>> moderate or
>>>>>>> worse every time.., get me out of it and
>>>>>>> I can breathe., Its imposed torture and please believe cause it
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> affect
>>>>>>> you the same way it won't affect you in other ways eventually. My
>>>>>>> tests
>>>>>>> say it does, no one
>>>>>>> escapes the damages if comparisons are met and people were able to
>>>>>>> compare the exact state of health. Epa constantly warns people in
>>>>>>> this air not to exeercise if sensitive. BS, do they warn them they
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>> die
>>>>>>> or have this pollution lodge in their system to cause heart disease
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> respiratory disease? If so how much, how many years are you likely
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> see damage? Why no follow up? why not stop it instead at that point
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> does damage? Why bring out a chart claiming clean air without
>>>>>>> telling
>>>>>>> people only if your in certain environments!. My life is basically
>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>> how to get out of harms way without losing everything i own and
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> street. There is no intent to work cause the air don't make
>>>>>>> concentration
>>>>>>> too worthy after long time and little sleep.. I just want to vent
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> explain how people are
>>>>>>> allowed to get poisoned, and tens of pharmacies and lung centers in
>>>>>>> place and there to advertise
>>>>>>> in my polluted areas, and a new media never warns or tells its
>>>>>>> citizens
>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>> they need so many meds and hospitals.to begin with and politicians
>>>>>>> unable to care to stop it or the consequences. I am now living in
>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>> concentration camp. Akin to paid poisoning where you
>>>>>>> lose
>>>>>>> everything you own to this poisoning and its ongoing. What I said
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> real. In
>>>>>>> addition I am sure, people sleep less good in this so called
>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>> poisoning, infants cry more ( thats just my assumption from what I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> seen) and quality of life is worse. I think everything is
>>>>>>> compromised
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> people who are exposed to this consistently. Politicians say they
>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> don't do practical things to stop it faster. In my area I am more
>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> see ten reports on ear and chin rennovation then the horrific
>>>>>>> damages
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> constant soot and particulate pollution that invades this area.
>>>>>>> Finally
>>>>>>> if you dont' believe that
>>>>>>> constant particulate pollution don't kill or sicken I invite anyone
>>>>>>> objective to test my air filters and then compare that to the air
>>>>>>> 9/11
>>>>>>> got.
>>>>>>> or damage from smoking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> gorgeous.
>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070524/ap_on_re_us/attacks_health
>>>>>>>> in addition my area has most asthma.. no one cares and most
>>>>>>>> respiratory deaths... what world am I in? I ask religious leaders
>>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>>> nothing is done?
>>>> I don't even like the word global warming because it masks the dangers
>>>> in
>>>> the air that are affecting people now ( for some reason).
>>>>>>>> After you read how people die from dust, try to understand thats
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> pollution although probably less intense that people downwind from
>>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>>> get for much longer periods of time. People have to demand that
>>>>>>>> damage
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> is provable must be allowed in court in much the same way the
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>> damaged from WTC dust are. just because no one had any desire to
>>>>>>>> prove
>>>>>>>> consequences before don't mean the damages are not there Why are
>>>>>>>> ceratin
>>>>>>>> people protected and certain
>>>>>>>> people not protected. The people with the most asthma and
>>>>>>>> respiratory
>>>>>>>> deaths
>>>>>>>> and prescription then every city in the nation show damage
>>>>>>>> conclusions.People downwind no matter where they are
>>>>>>>> and often have the most consistent pollution should be able to sue
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>>> this madness and have the same rights of those non smokers and
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> harmed
>>>>>>>> from too much dust from industry or 9/11.
>>>>>>>> We already know that damage from pollution is a known entity why
>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>> damage that shows two air filters getting black be compared with
>>>>>>>> air
>>>>>>>> filters
>>>>>>>> in clean air city and compare hospital admissions, rates for asthma
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> cancer , stress tests etc? I have done some comparisons and its
>>>>>>>> outrageous
>>>>>>>> that people in worse areas have to absorb this while being
>>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> graphs to show cleaner area with rest of nation without ways to
>>>>>>>> seperate
>>>>>>>> those who are most affected. There is no way to single
>>>>>>>> out people like me who have their bodies shut down from this
>>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> why?. What
>>>>>>>> the fk is going on that we only have lung centers to go to and pay
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>> we are poisoned!!!! murderers!!!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> atlanta number one or two for asthma and poof another yg person dies
>>>>>> after
>>>>> living there for long time. You never hear famous die off the coast of
>>>>> Cape
>>>>> Cod or in clean air in Seattle like this do you? Headline ex President
>>>>> Ford
>>>>> dies at age 51 off the coast of california (clean air) not
>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070501/ts_nm/usa_air_dc_1
>>>>> and around six more links where cities on east coast are on top ten
>>>>> list
>>>>> for
>>>>> ozone or particulates or soot or affects from pollution . Yet they say
>>>>> they
>>>>> are reducing things? God forbid these people had this poison effect
>>>>> them..
>>>>> they wouldn't be so fast accusing people of complaining for no good
>>>>> reason.
>>>>> Imagine the insensiitivity of politicians and energy whores to poison
>>>>> people
>>>>> and get away with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Help someone help
>>>>>> SO HELP ME GOD
>>>>>> and I bet you everythingI own it can be proved. For those who think I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> paranoid show me the tests that don't show what I am saying. I did
>>>>>> tests
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> we are getting poisoned..
>>>>>> the people downwind or in moderate or worse particulate pollution are
>>>>>> usually in worse shape and the defining factor? My lungs shut down
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> need asthma inhalers and still I am totally disabled one so called
>>>>>> Moderate particulate pollution constantly reach my area. They call
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> life? They are poisoning me and if not for them I would be fine. I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to then pay to treat conditions that are not my fault!!!!! They
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> comparisons
>>>>>> to show even more damage from particulate pollution. the tests I did
>>>>>> show
>>>>>> the biggest conspiracy to allow poisoning ever in the us. they can do
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> if they want and I can name the tests to conclusively show how energy
>>>>>> comparnies and politicians who don't protect kids and families are
>>>>>> murdering
>>>>>> you today so help me God. . Except of cigs and diet there is not a
>>>>>> bigger
>>>>>> killer or producer of illness today ongoing like moderate or worse
>>>>>> particulate pollution
>>>>>> UNbelievable
>>>>>> about conspiracy....like I said, I can only rationalize base on the
>>>>>> facts
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> I see them. Millions of people partake in crime each year and
>>>>>> millions
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> get away with it. When particulate pollution closes my body down in
>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>> range, one has to wonder how they determine thats " moderate" ! In
>>>>>> fact
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> the US govor / other agenecies hs said moderate particulate pollution
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> /
>>>>>> or causes harm. They say 1/3 of the people in the US get yearly
>>>>>> amounts
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> pollution that causes tens of thousands of premature deaths. They
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> define though what exactly the readings are , or where exactly these
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> tend to reside or warn people to stay away..do
>>>>>> they ? When up to one Quarter of kids in some areas have asthma and
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> tried to see a connection between particulate pollution or what to
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> , that says
>>>>>> conspiracy. too for all the above reasons. They have drug companies
>>>>>> advertising day and night for nebulizers and one after another
>>>>>> cancer
>>>>>> walk for research but not a peep why its ok to poison people first.
>>>>>> There are no magic cancer cures. its often a slow breakdown of body
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> toxins like particulate pollution and all the cancer walks the media
>>>>>> likes to promote isn't going to stop it if you don't stop the
>>>>>> malicious
>>>>>> murder of people first for jobs or energy or both. The people who are
>>>>>> killing people are getting away with making money for murder! but
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> one media firm telling
>>>>>> people why we have most asthma! that needs those drugs.. that suggest
>>>>>> conspiracy. Finally when my body shuts down and air filter turns
>>>>>> black,,
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> 27 days and politicians and media ignores pleas for help faster even
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> some politicians admit we need to do more.. I not only
>>>>>> believe in conspiracies I believe in legalized murder for energy
>>>>>> companies..
>>>>>> I know the people who promote policies that keep these things in
>>>>>> place
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> made billions doing so while sponsering legislation where you can't
>>>>>> sue
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> if you prove damages sometimes. Anyway I do believe in conspiracies
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> more important the research to compare peoples health between
>>>>>> polluted
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> non polluted areas (particulate ) and if done I assert there will
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> biggest differences in consequences then most anything can possibly
>>>>>> be.
>>>>>> one of the biggest conspiracies of all time going on now is to allow
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> poisoning of people , read on why its allowed. Tell family members
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> leave
>>>>>>> if your area gets this poison. I have studied this for ten years and
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>> convinces people are not protected equally in the US. People have
>>>>>>> suggested
>>>>>>> those in harms way should move, but how do they move when many don't
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> whats causing the poisons or conditions they have to begin with or
>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>> afford to move? Do you tell nonsmokers to move or do prevent smokers
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> forcing their smoke on others.
>>>>>>> This particulate pollution Literally involunatarily forces me to get
>>>>>>> asthma.. gasp for breath. It might
>>>>>>> not do that for everyone but over time, over and over again I have
>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the vast majority in its way... ishows that it
>>>>>>> causes damage to people . yet no one can sue?
>>>>>>> If I could prove conclusively how they conspire to limit speech or
>>>>>>> consequences from particulate pollution, I wouldn't be writing here,
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be a lawyer in a courtroom , suing not only for damages but trying
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> prosecute for murder.. promoting policies that are causing tens of
>>>>>>> thousands
>>>>>>> to die early or get sick is murder.. worse then if you take a gun
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> "mcs" <m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:h_%5i.65$2v5.59@trndny06...
>>>>>> News media don't mention the numbes says days like today beautiful ,
>>>>>> lies
>>>>>> to promote people not to get scared.. the most amazing conspiracy to
>>>>>> keep
>>>>>> damages from people so help me god I ever say.
>>>>>> "mcs" <m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:FX%5i.64$2v5.33@trndny06...
>>>>>>> News media in my area conspire to not tell harm, yet excepts
>>>>>>> millions
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> ads to treat people after they are harmed.
>>>>>>> "mcs" <m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:CV%5i.268$106.223@trndny02...
>>>>>>>> except for Cal and Ny mayor most people don't care one iota about
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> what has this country become. The news coopted to most wealthy.
>>>>>>>> Subject: Pm.2.5 reading so far, 122 and guess what our weather
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>>>> this beautiful. I wonder if I perceive this from the few yeas i
>>>>>>>>> smoke
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> added co2 in air or added car exhaust from more cars but whatever
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>>>> beyond affecting me. Just when this pollution they wrongly call
>>>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>>>> reaches that point, the trees go down, the older people stopped
>>>>>>>>> running,
>>>>>>>>> my asthma is automatic, and tens of companies and lung centers
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>> use to advertise now know harm and advertise while the news
>>>>>>>>> companies
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> politicians totally ignore this poisoning. Is this just a
>>>>>>>>> coincidence?
>>>>>>>>> to all who have good air consider yourself lucky, if you don't
>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> air compares, find out ! If you get many days that EPA calls
>>>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>>>> Particulate pollution or worse,
>>>>>>>>> worse, I bet everything i own you will have more chances of
>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>> different illnesses faster then those who don't. . There is
>>>>>>>>> virtually
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>> protection from this . This is forced on people and over time
>>>>>>>>> causes
>>>>>>>>> harm
>>>>>>>>> ... much harm is my added assumption . Whats worse is I believe
>>>>>>>>> the severity of these illnesses are much worse and they are
>>>>>>>>> irreversible
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> you can't stop it like from deciding to not smoke or eatting
>>>>>>>>> better.
>>>>>>>>> Please tell everyone you know if this makes any sense. I write
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> because I care about people unlike some in power ( is it religion,
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> causes the idea its ok to harm your own people now?) .This
>>>>>>>>> pollution invades your space in many areas of the country because
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> wind
>>>>>>>>> distribution or lack of and because of close promixmiticy of
>>>>>>>>> engine
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> diesel and industry exhaust and coal dust from producers as far
>>>>>>>>> away
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> next
>>>>>>>>> state . and from politicians who decide who should be exposed or
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> exposed, while most affected are ignored. The continued poisoning
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> millions of people for status quo, rich profits and energy comes
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> expense of your lost health sometimes and if your not affected
>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>> fight for those that are. I ask for your help.
>>>>>>>> ,If anyone wanted to show proof more then the
>>>>>>>>> dozens of links I have found on the net, I think I can and other
>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> they wanted to.... Look up particulate polltion and your health. I
>>>>>>>>> can name ten ways to compare the health of people exposed to this
>>>>>>>>> compared
>>>>>>>>> to those in good air,,
>>>>>>>>> and I assure, you more then I know about life itself people are
>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>> harmed
>>>>>>>>> greatly in the name of energy and there doesn't seem like anything
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> about it unless people move or get your politicians to care. Till
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>> you at the pharamacy.or hospital, ,. Please the media wants you to
>>>>>>>>> worry
>>>>>>>>> about 10k walks for cancer but not who get its and why.. Many of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>> people who get cancer do so by not having health agencies warn
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> prolonged exposure to this pollution so help me god. There will
>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>> be a
>>>>>>>>> cure for something that wears down your lungs and every organ in
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> body
>>>>>>>>> from pollution NEVER don't buy hype to build hospitals , and don't
>>>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>>>> till they tell you why you need them more and in certain
>>>>>>>>> location.s
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> uncovered the biggest conspiracy in the US .
>>>>>>>> If your in my area,,,,expect no team in your area to win any
>>>>>>>> championships.
>>>>>>>>> Even though there are 5 million population and thousands of
>>>>>>>>> temas...
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the most part have not won anything for years)see
>>>>>>>>> people unhappy. see people paying more money for this energy only
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> have to pay for healthcare after they are poisoned . See the least
>>>>>>>>> amount
>>>>>>>>> of people graduating college or high school . see the most asthma,
>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> most respirtory deaths and most prescriptions see, the most days
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>> moderate particulate pollution...see higher morbidity and
>>>>>>>>> cancer...
>>>>>>>>> Thats
>>>>>>>>> if your lucky to
>>>>>>>>> get healthcare. In case you don't believe, there are ways to
>>>>>>>>> compare
>>>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>>>> stat, like morbidity by age, cancers by age and sex, hospital
>>>>>>>>> admission by
>>>>>>>>> year and sex, 10k results with people who lived here for over 30
>>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>>> ( I
>>>>>>>>> did that and was astounded with results),
>>>>>>>>> comparing health of people near idling cars living near shopping
>>>>>>>>> centers
>>>>>>>>> and on crowded streets to clean
>>>>>>>>> air places and all in all , you can lose up to 16 years of life
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>> health. I know people who are 86 but never had any good health
>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>> 60.
>>>>>>>>> choose to get you or your family out of harms way and pressure
>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>> politicians, I expect some don't care one iota . Why did the Pres
>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> rule you can't sue these people. Why can't I sue if this is
>>>>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> causes my disability?
>>>>>>>>> right now our particulate pollution has shut down my system to
>>>>>>>>> breathe
>>>>>>>>> easy,
>>>>>>>>> gasping for breath and one reason the pollution levels reach
>>>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> worse every time.., get me out of it and
>>>>>>>>> I can breathe, Its imposed torture and please believe cause it
>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>> affect
>>>>>>>>> you the same way it won't in other ways. My tests say it does, no
>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> escapes the damages if comparisons are met. Epa constantly warns
>>>>>>>>> people in
>>>>>>>>> this air not to exeercise if sensitive. BS, do they warn them they
>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>> die
>>>>>>>>> or have this pollution lodge in their system to cause heart
>>>>>>>>> disease
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> respiratory disease? If so why not stop it. My life is basically
>>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>>> how to get out of harms way without losing everything i own and
>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> street. There is no intent to work cause the air don't make
>>>>>>>>> concentration
>>>>>>>>> too worthy after long time. I just want to vent and explain how
>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> allowed to get poisoned, and tens of pharmacies and lung centers
>>>>>>>>> advertise
>>>>>>>>> in my polluted areas, and a new media never warns or tells its
>>>>>>>>> citizens
>>>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>>>> they need so many meds and hospitals. Akin to paid poisoning where
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> lose
>>>>>>>>> everything you own to this poisoning is ongoing. What I said is
>>>>>>>>> real.
>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>> addition I am sure, people sleep less good in this so called
>>>>>>>>> moderate
>>>>>>>>> poisoning, infants cry more ( thats just my assumption from what I
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> seen) and quality of life is worse. I think everything is
>>>>>>>>> comparomised
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> people who are exposed to this consistently. Politicians say they
>>>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> don't do practical things to stop it faster. In my area I am more
>>>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> see ten reports on ear and chin rennovation then the horrific
>>>>>>>>> damages
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> constant soot and particulate pollution Finally if you dont'
>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> constant particulate pollution don't kill or sicken I invite
>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>> objective to test my air filters and then compare that to the air
>>>>>>>>> 9/11
>>>>>>>>> got.
>>>>>>>>> or damage from smoking.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> gorgeous.
>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070524/ap_on_re_us/attacks_health
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After you read how people die from dust, try to understand thats
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>> pollution although probably less intense that people downwind
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>>>>> get for much longer periods of time. People have to demand that
>>>>>>>>>> damage
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> is provable must be allowed in court in much the same way the
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>> damaged from WTC dust are. just because no one had any desire to
>>>>>>>>>> prove
>>>>>>>>>> consequences before don't mean the damages are not there Why are
>>>>>>>>>> ceratin
>>>>>>>>>> people protected and certain
>>>>>>>>>> people not protected. The people with the most asthma and
>>>>>>>>>> respiratory
>>>>>>>>>> deaths
>>>>>>>>>> and prescription then every city in the nation show damage
>>>>>>>>>> conclusions.People downwind no matter where they are
>>>>>>>>>> and often have the most consistent pollution should be able to
>>>>>>>>>> sue
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>>>>> this madness and have the same rights of those non smokers and
>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>> harmed
>>>>>>>>>> from too much dust from industry or 9/11.
>>>>>>>>>> We already know that damage from pollution is a known entity why
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> damage that shows two air filters getting black be compared with
>>>>>>>>>> air
>>>>>>>>>> filters
>>>>>>>>>> in clean air city and compare hospital admissions, rates for
>>>>>>>>>> asthma
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> cancer , stress tests etc? I have done some comparisons and its
>>>>>>>>>> outrageous
>>>>>>>>>> that people in worse areas have to absorb this while being
>>>>>>>>>> included
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> graphs to show cleaner area with rest of nation without ways to
>>>>>>>>>> seperate
>>>>>>>>>> those who are most affected. There is no way to single
>>>>>>>>>> out people like me who have their bodies shut down from this
>>>>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> why?. What
>>>>>>>>>> the fk is going on that we only have lung centers to go to and
>>>>>>>>>> pay
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>> we are poisoned!!!! murderers!!!!! just because it is not
>>>>>>>>>> affecting
>>>>>>>>>>>
>> we are poisoned!!!! murderers!!!!! just because it is not
>>>>>>>>>> >>affecting
>>>>>>>> you dont' mean its not affecting others.I have been in good
>>>>>>>> communites and good air and for the most part they dont' care one
>>>>>>>> iota if others suffer in bad air in their own country. We have been
>>>>>>>> coopted by money and media who makes what is important , not which
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> actually happening.
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