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Pool Chlorine & gunpowder

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JEFFREY ALLEN

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Oct 31, 1994, 12:56:24 PM10/31/94
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To the best of my knowledge common pool cleaning chemicals such as
HTH etc have an ingedient known as Calcium Hypochlorite--this is a very
unstable chemical that will react voilently with many substances. Most
pool cleaners are approx 65% C.H. Oily substances are a good example. If
put
hair cream HTH together it will evenutally ignite. Some chemcials mixed
will cause instant explosion such as ink. The C.H. can also become
unstable when it has sat around for a prolonged period of time. Example
someone leaving an unused portion of pool cleaner in thier garage a
couple of years. As to wether it would react mixed with gunpowder I am
not sure .

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jscota ABN...@prodigy.com


Tim Ansems

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Nov 2, 1994, 3:54:57 PM11/2/94
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On Tue, 1 Nov 1994 15:52:14 GMT,
Graham Goring <gori...@aston.ac.uk> wrote:

>I'm no chemical expert or anything, but it sounds like a bag of shit to me.
>If this was true then someone would have probably started blowing up swimming
>pools by now...

Obvioulsy not! The CaCl3 in the pool would be so saturated with water that
there would't be enough CaCl3 concentration to blow up anything.

Tom Perigrin

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Nov 4, 1994, 1:01:08 PM11/4/94
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In article <72096.n...@fox.nstn.ca>, "Tim Ansems"
<nstn...@fox.nstn.ca> wrote:

CaCl3 ???? Calcium Chloride, a harmless white salt, is CaCl2. CaCl2 is
not useful as a chlorinating agent. It doesn't explode, no matter what you
do to it. It's only use in life is that it is used as a dessicating agent,
because it is deliquesant, and absorbs water from the air. Home
dehumidifiers use it.


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Mike P. Storke

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Nov 5, 1994, 2:57:22 PM11/5/94
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Ok, time for some real chemistry. Calcium Hypochlorite [Ca(OCl)2] comes
in concentrations approaching 50-60 percent in the PUREST materials. Normal
bleaching powder (like used in Comet, for example) is only about 30%. In
any case, the impurities are chloride, hydroxide, and carbonate (from
atmospheric carbon dioxide). In any case, unless you mix it with a POWERFUL
reducing agent, nothing terribly explosive will likely happen--it doesn't
contain enough oxygen and just isn't unstable enough to detonate with
ordinary materials.
However, consider the case of SODIUM Hypochlorite. Now we're talking
a different ball game. This is the ingredient in Chlorox, and many liquid
"chlorines" out there. The strongest it comes in water solution is around
12.5% (Chlorox is 5.25%). NaOCl is VERY unstable, which is one reason
why all containers of the strong stuff are ventilated. According to the
Merck Index, pure pentahydrate has been prepared and is *VERY* explosive.
But don't bother about trying to crystalize out a bottle of Chlorox: the
hypochlorite will probably decompose before you've even gotten very far.
So, if you're looking for an explosive oxidizer, you'd be better going
with chlorates or perchlorates (if you like spending money) or any inorganic
nitrate.
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Graham Goring

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Nov 9, 1994, 6:26:25 AM11/9/94
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In article 041194...@gold.aichem.arizona.edu, t...@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin) writes:
> In article <72096.n...@fox.nstn.ca>, "Tim Ansems"
> <nstn...@fox.nstn.ca> wrote:
>
>
> > On Tue, 1 Nov 1994 15:52:14 GMT,
> > Graham Goring <gori...@aston.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >I'm no chemical expert or anything, but it sounds like a bag of shit to me.
> > >If this was true then someone would have probably started blowing up swimming
> > >pools by now...
> >
> > Obvioulsy not! The CaCl3 in the pool would be so saturated with water that
> > there would't be enough CaCl3 concentration to blow up anything.
>
> CaCl3 ???? Calcium Chloride, a harmless white salt, is CaCl2. CaCl2 is
> not useful as a chlorinating agent. It doesn't explode, no matter what you
> do to it. It's only use in life is that it is used as a dessicating agent,
> because it is deliquesant, and absorbs water from the air. Home
> dehumidifiers use it.

Aargh! I didn't mean putting gunpowder in the bloody pool you berk! I meant putting
chlorine in the pools chlorine supply. They must have chlorine in a solid form
somewhere so they can treat the water, or do you think that they get it in special
bottles, pre-chlorinated? I don't think so...

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