Underwater explosion for lake fishing
Carolyn Thistle
anythihg at all would be appreciated . The fish won't bit at all. hahaha
Max
is illegal. ;)
Carolyn Thistle wrote in message ...
Thomas Hofts
> Anybody out there with a good recipe to make a good underwater Boom
> anythihg at all would be appreciated . The fish won't bit at all. hahaha
Though this is not "explosive" if you have a supply of green walnuts fresh
off the tree, place some in a burlap bag and run them over with a vehicle
to crush them & get them juicy. Weight down the sack and toss it just
up-stream of where you think the fish are. Run down stream and be prepared
to gather the fish.
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Thomas Hofts
Topeka, KS - USA -
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the web they weave.... and keep on thinking free !"
- Graeme Edge -
Fulmen
<thi...@ns.sympatico.ca> said something like::
>Anybody out there with a good recipe to make a good underwater Boom
>anythihg at all would be appreciated . The fish won't bit at all. hahaha
Bad boy, BAAAAAAD BOY!
Any explosive would work, as will exploding fireworks (M80, cherry).
But you are aware that most, if not all fish in freshwater will sink
down?
Personally I preffer to shoot trout with a silenced 22 pistol. We do
this a lot in a small creek where we go hunting.........
Fulmen
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john
trap. much more effective.
john.
In article <37295257...@news.telia.no>, Ful...@BUGShotmail.com (Fulmen)
wrote:
Achille-Hector
> Carolyn Thistle wrote:
>
> > Anybody out there with a good recipe to make a good underwater Boom
> > anythihg at all would be appreciated . The fish won't bit at all. hahaha
>
> Though this is not "explosive" if you have a supply of green walnuts fresh
> off the tree, place some in a burlap bag and run them over with a vehicle
> to crush them & get them juicy. Weight down the sack and toss it just
> up-stream of where you think the fish are. Run down stream and be prepared
> to gather the fish.
>
> --
>
> Thomas Hofts
> Topeka, KS - USA -
> "It riles them to believe that you perceive
> the web they weave.... and keep on thinking free !"
> - Graeme Edge -
In case it really works, I would be happy to know how fishes could be knocked
down by walnut juice (brou de noix) ?
If someone can answer, despite it is not the adequate newsgroup, I will be
happy !
Thanks.
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Achille-Hector
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Etait comme une âme en peine"
Thomas Hofts
> Thomas Hofts wrote:
>
> > Carolyn Thistle wrote:
> >
> > > Anybody out there with a good recipe to make a good underwater Boom
> > > anythihg at all would be appreciated . The fish won't bit at all. hahaha
> >
> > Though this is not "explosive" if you have a supply of green walnuts fresh
> > off the tree, place some in a burlap bag and run them over with a vehicle
> > to crush them & get them juicy. Weight down the sack and toss it just
> > up-stream of where you think the fish are. Run down stream and be prepared
> > to gather the fish.
> >
> In case it really works, I would be happy to know how fishes could be knocked
> down by walnut juice (brou de noix) ?
>
> If someone can answer, despite it is not the adequate newsgroup, I will be
> happy !
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Achille-Hector
> "Et la belle Hélène
> Etait comme une âme en peine"
I'm not sure but is has something to do with whatever it is in the juice that
stains your hands brown.(You can't scrub it off) Sort of like tannic acid. It
does something to the fish gills and they suffocate. I did this many times as a
kid in a fresh water -sand bottom river that was 1 meter deep at best.
The other "explosive" fish killer I did in my teens in the same river was to
take a duce and 1/2 truck tire innertube and fill it with a mixture of acetalyne
and oxygen. Had a blasting cap and we taped it on the tube with "lots" of
waterproof fuse. Lit it and let it go downstream. The resulting explosion
removed all the water from a 20 yard wide stretch of the shallow river and
killed numerous fish. It also brought out the sherrif and a good ass-whipping
from my dad for stealing his blasting caps and fuse.
Maikkeli
> Though this is not "explosive" if you have a supply of green walnuts fresh
> off the tree, place some in a burlap bag and run them over with a vehicle
> to crush them & get them juicy. Weight down the sack and toss it just
> up-stream of where you think the fish are. Run down stream and be prepared
> to gather the fish.
Is that arsenic?
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SWSURVIV1
>> Though this is not "explosive" if you have a supply of green walnuts fresh
>> off the tree, place some in a burlap bag and run them over with a vehicle
>> to crush them & get them juicy. Weight down the sack and toss it just
>> up-stream of where you think the fish are. Run down stream and be prepared
>> to gather the fish.
>>
>>
>> Thomas Hofts
>> Topeka, KS - USA -
>> "It riles them to believe that you perceive
>> the web they weave.... and keep on thinking free !"
>> - Graeme Edge -
>
>down by walnut juice (brou de noix) ?
>
>If someone can answer, despite it is not the adequate newsgroup, I will be
>happy !
>
HOWEVER, this is considered using poison to catch fish and is illeagle in most
all states. There are several other plants that also produce the same effect.
Steve owner of S.W. MI. SURVIVAL SUPPLY. Sam Andy Foods dealer. Its
better to have it now and throw it away in 20 years than need it at Y2K and not
have it. PGP Public Key available on request. Only the unprepared will die
young.
donald haarmann
magas <ma...@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message news:372B14DE...@ozemail.com.au...
> In Australia our aboriginals use powdered melalucca root to fish with.
> it only works in ponds and is not a poison as such. How it works is that
> the sap from the powdered roots orb the water of oxygen so the fish
> float on the surface and our collected. Nil environmental impact.
> perhaps you might have something similar
>
Your in luck! For located in basement D here at Schloss Zauber is located the "Bibliothek
WiZardæ", the finest collection of nudist magazines and arcane reference in the
free world!
Explosives
Although the use of bombs is outlawed (art. 35, law 221/ 67), they have been
used by fishermen in the Itacoatiara area and in the vicinity of Manaus [Brazil]
(Gourou 1950). Bottles or cans are stuffed with gunpowder and a fuse. The short
fuse is lighted from the canoe and the container is hurled into the water, usually
a lake or slow-moving channel. Most fish within 20 m of the blast are stunned or
killed. Undersized fish are particularly susceptible and many valuable fish are
lost because they sink. Fortunately, this wasteful practice is no longer common in
the Itacoatiara area. Rural folk who depend on fish for subsistence do not
hesitate to report such illegal occurrences to the Capitania dos Portos in town.
Nigel J Smith
Man, Fishes, and the Amazon
Columbia U Press 1981
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Collective fishing parties are linked to the technique of barbasco, that is, of fish
poisoning. We have seen that there are two different poisons: one is cultivated,
the other collected. A collective fishing party involves not only all the men of the
group but women and children as well. The fishing place has been discussed
and agreed upon by the men several days in advance. If the poison is wild, it has
been cut in advance and brought back to the settlement. The collection of plants
for the making of poison is modeled on the collective hunting parties and is an
entirely male operation. If the poison is not wild, men go to the gardens in the
morning, and each cuts barbasco [Derris sp.?] in his own plot. It is carried then to
the fishing spot in each one's tawa. There, the barbasco is crushed with
makeshift wood pestles and put back in the tawa, which are soaked in the water.
Meanwhile, women and children have arrived directly from the settlement and
await the effect of the poison. In running waters, the river may have to be
dammed (a technique I observed only once). Men stay upstream and women
downstream. Men harpoon some fish, while women catch some in openwork
baskets. A man works with his wife or wives, an unmarried young man with his
mother or his unmarried sister. Production is collective but not the distribution of
the products, as each fish belongs to the couple that catches it. As much as
thirty kilos of fish may be produced per individual in a couple of hours with this
technique. The catch is carried, mainly by women, back to the settlement, where
they alone will clean the fish, boil part of them immediately, and smoke-cure the
rest for preservation.
Jean-Paul Dumont
Under the Rainbow: Nature and Supernature among the Panare Indians
U of Texas Press 1972
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After two such unsuccessful days the Wai-Wais decided to poison the streamlet
which wound past my tent. They gathered lengths of the roots and stems of a
fish-poison vinec, [Lonchocarpous] which grew in a great tangle nearby, and
beat them to shreds, filling half a dozen baskets with the light yellow,
unpleasant-smelling fragments.
When these basketfuls were dipped and squeezed in the water a milky juice ran
out, and soon the whole stream was opaque and whitish, and all the fish in it
began swimming near the surface, jumping and splashing to avoid the
asphyxiant -- among them several small brilliantly coloured minnows--one
scarlet-striped, another with a black and yellow sailfin, which caused my
aquarist's heart to leap, for they were new to me. Many fish seemed to lose all
control, and went round and round in circles, until at last they lay gasping and
helpless on their sides; others beached themselves on the banks, under leaves
or roots where they might be hidden.
As soon as they became stupefied the Wai-Wais, with yells of delight and
excitement, jumped in and gathered them, chopping to kill the more active ones.
But the catch was small-a few cichlids and three young haimara (a fish that
grows to 4o lb.), and we had to wait several hours before we could drink again.
As fine weather continued the water-level of the creek fell rapidly, exposing the
sandy bottom, until there was just a string of pools with shallow trickles in
between.
Nicholas Guppy
Wai-Wai: Through the forests north of the Amazon
EP Dutton 1958
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Fish poison was fed into small streams and pools by a number of tribes: the
Pomo, Yokuts, and Luiseno are specified, which indicates that the practice was
widely spread. Buckeyes [Aesculus california] and soaproot (Chlorogalum) as
well as other plants were employed.
RF Heizer & MA Whipple
The California Indians
U of California Press 1971
Buckeye's (horse chestnuts) contain the glycoside, aesculin.
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TC Fuller & E McClintock
Poisonous Plants of California
U of California Press
Suggest a range of plants used by the Indians as fish poisons.
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I remember 40+ years ago my friend and I standing on the shore of an NY State
lake throwing in M80's (which were legal in the US if not in NY at the time.)
attached to rocks and such..... until the game warden showed up.....! and
confiscated the days supply. There is nothing quite as sole satisfying as watching an
M80 go off under 5-foot or so of clear water!! What fun!! And no noise to attract
unwanted attention.
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donald j haarmann - independently dubious
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