good advanced dynamics text?
Gary L. Gray
dynamics course I am teaching this fall. The course will have primarily
seniors and graduate students and I don't want to use the type of book
that you would see in a physics department for a "classical mechanics"
course. I am familiar with a few of the books out there, but want to see
if I am missing any. I am familiar with:
(1) Greenwood's "Principles of Dynamics"
(2) Meirovitch's "Methods of Analytical Dynamics"
So anyway, what's out there and what do you recommend?
Thank you.
Best regards,
--
Gary L. Gray | (814) 863-1778
Assistant Professor | (814) 863-7967 (fax)
Engineering Science & Mechanics | glg...@engr.psu.edu
Penn State University
Gary L. Gray
(Charles Blair) wrote:
> Really not sure what you're looking for. Dover reprinted books by
> Synge and Griffeth and Corbin and Stehle. Also, Lanczos' VARIATIONAL
> PRINCIPLES OF MECHANICS. The blue paperback Cambridge Lecture Note
> series has a book by Marsden on Mechanics, probably too mathematical.
> There's an expensive paperback by Landau and Lifshitz, the first in
> their theoretical physics series.
I like Lanczos and Corbin and Stehle, but they are both too
physics-oriented. I am teaching an engineering class and we won't be doing
much Hamiltonian mechanics.
Thank you for the suggestions,
John McPhee
course for engineers, and we have both expressed complaints about the shortcomings of
the Meirovitch and Greenwood texts you mention. So far, I have supplemented Greenwood
with personal handouts and references to some of the Schaum's texts (e.g. Lagrangian
Dynamics), while Glenn has just finished co-authoring a new book on the topic.
If you do find some good alternatives, I would love to hear about them.
John McPhee
Systems Design and Mechanical Engineering
Univesity of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
In article <glgesm-1005...@horseshoe.esm.psu.edu>, glg...@engr.psu.edu (Gary L. Gray) writes:
> I am soliciting advice/recommendations on a good book for an advanced
> dynamics course I am teaching this fall. The course will have primarily
> seniors and graduate students and I don't want to use the type of book
> that you would see in a physics department for a "classical mechanics"
> course. I am familiar with a few of the books out there, but want to see
> if I am missing any. I am familiar with:
>
> (1) Greenwood's "Principles of Dynamics"
>
> (2) Meirovitch's "Methods of Analytical Dynamics"
>
> So anyway, what's out there and what do you recommend?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best regards,
Keith Reckdahl
>I am soliciting advice/recommendations on a good book for an advanced
>dynamics course I am teaching this fall. The course will have primarily
>seniors and graduate students and I don't want to use the type of book
>that you would see in a physics department for a "classical mechanics"
>course. I am familiar with a few of the books out there, but want to see
>if I am missing any. I am familiar with:
> (1) Greenwood's "Principles of Dynamics"
> (2) Meirovitch's "Methods of Analytical Dynamics"
>So anyway, what's out there and what do you recommend?
By far and away the best graduate dynamics text is "Dynamics: Theory
and Applications" by Thomas Kane and David Levinson. Its teaching
of kinematics is the best I have seen. For dynamics, it uses Kane's
Method which is an offshoot of Lagrange. Anything Lagrange can do,
Kane can do. However, Kane's method has the following advantages
over Lagrange:
1) The calculation of the left-hand side of Lagrange's equation
results in many cancellations. Kane's generalized inertia
force saves work by directly calculating the inertial terms
without the cancellations.
2) Kane's method makes it easier to use motion variables which are
something other than the time-derivatives of generalized coordinates.
3) Nonholonomic constraints is easier with Kane's method
Let me know if you have any questions,
Keith Reckdahl
reck...@leland.stanford.edu
Michael D. Brandt
>
>I am soliciting advice/recommendations on a good book for an advanced
>dynamics course I am teaching this fall. The course will have primarily
>seniors and graduate students and I don't want to use the type of book
>that you would see in a physics department for a "classical mechanics"
>course. I am familiar with a few of the books out there, but want to see
>if I am missing any. I am familiar with:
>
>(1) Greenwood's "Principles of Dynamics"
>
>(2) Meirovitch's "Methods of Analytical Dynamics"
>
>So anyway, what's out there and what do you recommend?
>
As far as I'm concerned, there is no GOOD advanced dynamics book out
there for learning. I have had two courses, one using Meirovitch's "Intro To
Dynamics and Control", and Ginsberg's "Advanced Engineering Dynamics" for
the same class.
Both where difficult to read and we (the class, 6 grads, 4 seniors) did
not like them, nor did we use them at all. I could have saved about 130
dollars if I would have known before hand.
My recomendation to you is to do what my advanced dynamic prof did,
Make your own notes, clearly defing the concepts and priciples YOU
would like the class to learn, and copy the good homework problems
from one of these various books (Ginsberg has alot of good ones).
Michael Brandt
University of Wisconsin - Madison
Engineering Mechanics and Astronautics
Charles Blair
R. Kackley
glg...@engr.psu.edu (Gary L. Gray) wrote:
> I am soliciting advice/recommendations on a good book for an advanced
> dynamics course I am teaching this fall. The course will have primarily
.
.
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> Gary L. Gray | (814) 863-1778
I recommend the following text:
"Dynamics: Theory and Application", by T. R. Kane and D. A. Levinson,
published by McGraw-Hill.
It is the best I have seen. I have the 1985 edition, but I know there is
a newer one.
It is used for for a graduate-level dynamics course at Stanford University.
--
R. D. Kackley (kac...@lmsc.lockheed.com)
Satellite Engineering
Lockheed Martin Missiles & Space, Sunnyvale, CA, USA
Victor Fung-Ho
L. Gray) writes:
>
>I am soliciting advice/recommendations on a good book for an advanced
>dynamics course I am teaching this fall. The course will have primarily
>that you would see in a physics department for a "classical mechanics"
>course. I am familiar with a few of the books out there, but want to see
>if I am missing any. I am familiar with:
>
>(1) Greenwood's "Principles of Dynamics"
>
>(2) Meirovitch's "Methods of Analytical Dynamics"
>
>So anyway, what's out there and what do you recommend?
>
>
>Best regards,
>--
>Engineering Science & Mechanics | glg...@engr.psu.edu
>Penn State University
having graduated from univ. of iowa, i've got to mention Computer-Aided
Kinematics and Dynamics of Mechanical Systems, by E. Haug (Allyn &
Bacon). It is oriented towards the formulation of dynamics for its use
in computer programs and the solution of large scale mechanical
systems.
victor fung
cannon
Ken Zagzebski
(Gary L. Gray) writes:
>
>I am soliciting advice/recommendations on a good book for an advanced
>dynamics course I am teaching this fall. The course will have
primarily
>seniors and graduate students and I don't want to use the type of book
>that you would see in a physics department for a "classical mechanics"
>course. I am familiar with a few of the books out there, but want to
see
>if I am missing any. I am familiar with:
>
>(1) Greenwood's "Principles of Dynamics"
>
>(2) Meirovitch's "Methods of Analytical Dynamics"
>
>So anyway, what's out there and what do you recommend?
>
>Thank you.
>
>Best regards,
>--
>Gary L. Gray
>
understandable. Likewise for Den Hartog also. The Shock and Vibration
Handbook by Harris and Crede is a must-have reference.
Hope this helps.
Ken Z.
Cadlab PPC
Zagzebski) wrote:
> In <glgesm-1005...@horseshoe.esm.psu.edu> glg...@engr.psu.edu
> (Gary L. Gray) writes:
> >(1) Greenwood's "Principles of Dynamics"
> >
> >(2) Meirovitch's "Methods of Analytical Dynamics"
> >
> >So anyway, what's out there and what do you recommend?
> Intro to Structural Dynamics by Biggs is a good book. It is old but
> understandable. Likewise for Den Hartog also. The Shock and Vibration
> Handbook by Harris and Crede is a must-have reference.
> Hope this helps.
Good basic introduction to 3-D dynamics using both Newtonian
and analytical formulations:
J. H. Ginsberg: "Advanced Engineering Dynamics"
An interesting approach is given in:
García de Jalón, J. and Bayo, E., "Kinematic and Dynamic Simulation of
Multibody Systems,"
Springer-Verlag, Inc., New York, NY, 1994.
Ned Patton
McPhee) writes:
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>In article <glgesm-1005...@horseshoe.esm.psu.edu>, glg...@engr.psu.edu (Gary L. Gray) writes:
>> I am soliciting advice/recommendations on a good book for an advanced
>> dynamics course I am teaching this fall. The course will have primarily
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>> if I am missing any. I am familiar with:
>>
>> (1) Greenwood's "Principles of Dynamics"
>>
>> (2) Meirovitch's "Methods of Analytical Dynamics"
And of course, my favorite: "More Dynamics" by Charles E. Smith, Oregon
State University.
Ned Patton
Southwest Research Institute
npa...@swri.edu