Anyone know anything about this?
Gary Eickmeier
I've never heard that one before. The closest possibility I could find
is here:
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/50/messages/798.html
It's at least plausible . . . .
--
Cordially,
Eric Walker, Owlcroft House
http://owlcroft.com/english/
Not real satisfying - to me.
Gary Eickmeier
> This guy claims to:
>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=Cheppo
That would be a different saying.
Gary Eickmeier
I started thinking rock-paper-scissors for some reason, but it didn't
help much.
Then I remembered that apart from a donkey, an ass is an arse, which
my spell checker doesn't recognise, but wiki does;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arse
Looking at that I'm guessing paper arsehole may be referring to
asswipe.
The only other thing I could think of was a self-cleaning orifice
leading to meaning someone who is perhaps a tad obsessively anal.
> Then I remembered that apart from a donkey, an ass is an arse, which
> my spell checker doesn't recognise, but wiki does;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arse
> Looking at that I'm guessing paper arsehole may be referring to
> asswipe.
On further reflection, if "talking like an asswipe" equates to
"talking like a man with a paper asshole", why might one opt for the
longer version?
A sense of unimportance yielding to the need to hold the listeners
attention for that bit longer? i.e. that the user of the expression is
basically an asswipe.
The wordier the more intellectually sounding?
What if it was a female that the remark was aimed at? The asswipe
wants to share their sexist leanings.
Who is this "we"?
--
Which of the seven heavens / Was responsible her smile /
Wouldn't be sure but attested / That, whoever it was, a god /
Worth kneeling-to for a while / Had tabernacled and rested.
Who is you? What kind of an idiot question is this in an English usage
group?
Gary Eickmeier
Should he have asked, "Why you say-um 'we', Paleface?"
--
John Varela
Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email
Is there something super mysterious about using "we" for people in general?
Gary Eickmeier
Since I have never heard the phrase used, I was asking who were the
group of people that you designated "we". What's wrong with that?
No. But I didn't know that you meant people in general.
Sorry, I didn't know you were ESL.
"We" is sometimes used for people in general, as in "We sometimes use 'we'
as a substitute for people in general."
"We love our freedoms."
"If a politician gets involved in a scandal, we don't reelect him."
"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union,
establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common
defense..."
Gary Eickmeier
Gary Eickmeier
>Gary Eickmeier wrote:
>
>> Is there something super mysterious about using "we" for people in general?
>
>No. But I didn't know that you meant people in general.
Nor me, since I've never heard the term until the OPs post I
had assumed the 'we' was a particular group of people.
--
Jan Hyde
I sense a joke being played on me...
Gary Eickmeier
> Nor me, since I've never heard the term until the OPs post I
> had assumed the 'we' was a particular group of people.
From Jan Hyde, AEU msg Nov 18, 2008 re: Letter opening line:
"I seriously don't know. As another poster pointed out, I
think we'd need to know what it is that you are offering and
who you are targeting. The last point matters, because I
have little time for any marketing material at home, but at
work it's a different situation."
Jan Hyde
Gary Eickmeier
I don't know what ESL is either.
> "We" is sometimes used for people in general, ...
Indeed so, but it seems that "people in general" are not all familiar
with the phrase "paper asshole."
>
> "John Varela" <OLDl...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:dxizd0mOwXzR-pn2-7YCldVdKUYCR@localhost...
> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:30:46 UTC, "Gary Eickmeier"
> > <geic...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Frederick Williams" <frederick...@tesco.net> wrote in message
> >> news:4A59D359...@tesco.net...
> >> > Gary Eickmeier wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> .... I know that we sometimes call the looseleaf binder
> >> >> hole reinforcement tapes paper assholes, ...
> >> >
> >> > Who is this "we"?
> >>
> >> Who is you? What kind of an idiot question is this in an English usage
> >> group?
> >
> > Should he have asked, "Why you say-um 'we', Paleface?"
>
> Is there something super mysterious about using "we" for people in general?
I took Frederick to be remarking that he is not a member of the "we"
who use that term for reinforcement rings, and also implying that
the term is not in common use. I've never heard that usage before,
so agree that the term is not in common use.
I cited the "Paleface" punch line (I assume everyone knows the joke)
to suggest that you're on your own with that one.
> Gary Eickmeier wrote:
> >
> > "Frederick Williams" <frederick...@tesco.net> wrote in message
> > news:4A5B00A5...@tesco.net...
> > > Gary Eickmeier wrote:
> > >>
> > >> "Frederick Williams" <frederick...@tesco.net> wrote in message
> > >> news:4A59D359...@tesco.net...
> > >> > Gary Eickmeier wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> .... I know that we sometimes call the looseleaf binder
> > >> >> hole reinforcement tapes paper assholes, ...
> > >> >
> > >> > Who is this "we"?
> > >>
> > >> Who is you? What kind of an idiot question is this in an English usage
> > >> group?
> > >
> > > Since I have never heard the phrase used, I was asking who were the
> > > group of people that you designated "we". What's wrong with that?
> >
> > Sorry, I didn't know you were ESL.
>
> I don't know what ESL is either.
English as a Second Language. He is resorting to ad hominem attack.
Looking back, I see that he started the ad hominem with "idiot"
above. He seems to be something of a jerk.
> > "We" is sometimes used for people in general, ...
>
> Indeed so, but it seems that "people in general" are not all familiar
> with the phrase "paper asshole."
Nor do people in general use the phrase to refer to ring binder
reinforcements.
???
--
Jan Hyde
>
Why?
--
Jan Hyde
For what it's worth, I assumed that "we" referred to himself and his
co-workers who use the term with regards to the loose leaf binder.
But now I find myself wondering why he hasn't offered that sort of
reason.
Hmmmm
I'll see if I can simplify it all down for you:
I said that we sometimes use the term for the little reinforcements for
loose leaf paper holes. See
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=paper%20asshole
Then Williams asked what "we" meant. I told him it means people in general,
to which you responded that you have never heard the term before. So I
quoted you using it in a previous post. It is a standard English usage
meaning people in general, as in " I think we'd need to know what it is that
you are offering ."
So what we have is "People sometimes use the term to mean... " etc. Notice
my use of "we" in this sentence as well. Next post we can work on
"sometimes."
Gary Eickmeier
Don't you think that he meant he had not heard "paper asshole" before,
not that he hadn't heard the word "we" used in that way before?
> So I
> quoted you using it in a previous post. It is a standard English usage
> meaning people in general, as in " I think we'd need to know what it is that
> you are offering ."
>
> So what we have is "People sometimes use the term to mean... " etc. Notice
> my use of "we" in this sentence as well. Next post we can work on
> "sometimes."
>
> Gary Eickmeier
Now he's just trolling. As I said, he's a jerk and it's a waste of
time to bandy words with him.
> > So I
> > quoted you using it in a previous post. It is a standard English usage
> > meaning people in general, as in " I think we'd need to know what it is that
> > you are offering ."
> >
> > So what we have is "People sometimes use the term to mean... " etc. Notice
> > my use of "we" in this sentence as well. Next post we can work on
> > "sometimes."
> >
> > Gary Eickmeier
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