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7%palmtree

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Aug 7, 2001, 12:57:08 AM8/7/01
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Can I say "emails" or do I have to say "email messages"?

I feel that since the email is electronic in nature, like water
and air, email is not a countable noun, email cannot be used in
its plural form like emails.

Am I correct?

Thanks,

palmtree

Polar

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Aug 7, 2001, 1:19:39 AM8/7/01
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Everybody says emails. I doubt if certain technological terms can be
made to obey strict grammar rules.

Your analysis is quite poetic, however!


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Clark S. Cox III

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Aug 7, 2001, 1:27:04 AM8/7/01
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7%palmtree <disposable....@sanitized.NET.INVALID> wrote:

> Can I say "emails" or do I have to say "email messages"?
>
> I feel that since the email is electronic in nature, like water
> and air, email is not a countable noun, email cannot be used in
> its plural form like emails.

Email *is* a countable noun. Compare "I sent an email earlier today"
with "I drank a water earlier today". While I doubt I've ever said
"emails", it doesn't really sound wrong to me.


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Benjamin Lukoff

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Aug 7, 2001, 1:14:50 AM8/7/01
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"7%palmtree" wrote:
>
> Can I say "emails" or do I have to say "email messages"?
>
> I feel that since the email is electronic in nature, like water
> and air, email is not a countable noun, email cannot be used in
> its plural form like emails.

Water and air are not electronic in nature :)

> Am I correct?

Well, do you say "an email" or "an email message"? If you say "an
email" then you should be able to say "emails". If you can only say "an
email message" or "email" then "emails" is out.

meirm...@erols.com

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Aug 7, 2001, 4:06:56 AM8/7/01
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In alt.english.usage on Mon, 06 Aug 2001 22:14:50 -0700 Benjamin
Lukoff <l=u=k=o_b_e_@y+a+h-o-o-.-c=o=m> posted:

>"7%palmtree" wrote:
>>
>> Can I say "emails" or do I have to say "email messages"?
>>
>> I feel that since the email is electronic in nature, like water
>> and air, email is not a countable noun, email cannot be used in
>> its plural form like emails.
>
>Water and air are not electronic in nature :)

How did I miss that?

I'm going to have to retake that course on propaganda resistence.


>
>> Am I correct?
>
>Well, do you say "an email" or "an email message"? If you say "an
>email" then you should be able to say "emails". If you can only say "an
>email message" or "email" then "emails" is out.


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Mary MacTavish

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Aug 7, 2001, 1:33:17 PM8/7/01
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2001 22:14:50 -0700, Benjamin Lukoff
<l=u=k=o_b_e_@y+a+h-o-o-.-c=o=m> said:

>Well, do you say "an email" or "an email message"? If you say "an
>email" then you should be able to say "emails". If you can only say "an
>email message" or "email" then "emails" is out.

When I get my daily bills and advertisements from the mailbox, I "get
the mail." I don't "get the mails," even when there's more than one
envelope.
`
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know, just small enough to fit in our bedrooms."
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Eric Walker

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Aug 7, 2001, 3:16:04 PM8/7/01
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:33:17 GMT, Mary MacTavish wrote:

[...]

>When I get my daily bills and advertisements from the mailbox,
>I "get the mail." I don't "get the mails," even when there's
>more than one envelope.

I suspect that the "mail" part of "email" is misleading, in that
the term "email" seems to be analogous to "letter" rather than
to plain "mail."

It looks--to me anyway--as if email has taken the form of words
like "fish": it can be used in the singular form as a collective
(all the fish in the sea, my email sometimes overwhelms me) but
also in the plural when referring to a more or less definite
quantity (three fishes were swimming together, I received five
e-mails in just the past hour).


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Neeraj 'The Ridge' Nagarkatti

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Aug 7, 2001, 4:15:36 PM8/7/01
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Can u have email as a verb, as in:

I email, you email, he/she/it emails

7%palmtree" wrote:

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Dan Seriff

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Aug 7, 2001, 4:57:31 PM8/7/01
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Neeraj 'The Ridge' Nagarkatti wrote:
>
> Can u have email as a verb, as in:
>
> I email, you email, he/she/it emails

Yep. Past tense "emailed".

Incidentally, I've been told by several Germans that they've borrowed
English "to email" straight into German as "emailen", which conjugates normally.

Ich emaile
Du emailst
etc...

This also reminds me of a language simulation program that I've heard
about. It is programmed to be able to figure out the past tense form of
various English verbs, given only a basic dataset with which to work. It
was generally pretty good, but occasionally came out with some amusingly
bizzare results. The one it produced that I'm reminded of is "mail" ->
past tense "membled". I'd love to see this catch on.

"Hey Bob, did you get the mail?"
"Yeah, and I membled that package you gave me."

:-)

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7%palmtree

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Aug 7, 2001, 7:30:47 PM8/7/01
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"Eric Walker" <ewa...@owlcroft.com> wrote in message
news:rjnyxrebjypebsgpb...@news.cis.dfn.de...
You answered my question.

I did not intended to compare email and water or email and air
in their scientific breakdowns, but am concerned with their
grammatical usage. As you analyzed that email belongs to
collective nouns (An uncountable noun, what it is called in my
ESL textbook used in high school).

Regarding how we account email, I would argue that it be said,
two pieces of email, or two email messages.

Just my 2 cents,

palmtree


Daniel James

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Aug 8, 2001, 6:48:00 PM8/8/01
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In article <rjnyxrebjypebsgpb...@news.cis.dfn.de>, Eric Walker
wrote:

> It looks--to me anyway--as if email has taken the form of words
> like "fish" ...

Yes, /exactly/ the comparison I was going to make.

(and, like fish, it comes from a net.)

Cheers,
Daniel.


JB

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Aug 8, 2001, 9:11:52 PM8/8/01
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"7%palmtree" wrote:

> Regarding how we account email, I would argue that it be said,
> two pieces of email, or two email messages.

In theory you are correct. Letters arrive by mail. Email (the
electronic mail system) delivers messages. We 'check our email for
messages'. But 'messages' by itself does not implicitly connote email,
the way 'letters' connotes mail. For some reason 'e-letters' or
'e-messages', while logical, never became popular. They were called
'email messages', which over time became shortened in common usage to
'emails'.

'Emails' is informal. I don't think a formal business letter or
contract would refer to earlier email correspondence as 'emails'.

--JB

7%palmtree

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Aug 9, 2001, 12:06:50 AM8/9/01
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> 'Emails' is informal. I don't think a formal business letter
or
> contract would refer to earlier email correspondence as
'emails'.
Interesing.
I once saw an online documentary video describing how heavily
Miscrofot rrelies on email for making important busines
decisions...

palmtree

Benjamin Lukoff

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Aug 9, 2001, 6:14:51 PM8/9/01
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Like small fish, it goes through the net. It doesn't come from the net!

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