How do I type am and pm?
Zingo
it's four in the morning, is it:
A. 4am
B. 4 a m
C. 4AM
D. 4 a.m.
E. A.M
And so on... is there a correct way on how am or pm should be typed
out?
HVS
For me, it has to be in your form "D": a.m.
That said, I prefer to use the 24-hour clock whenever I can.
--
Cheers, Harvey
CanEng and BrEng, indiscriminately mixed
Athel Cornish-Bowden
> On 28 May 2010, Zingo wrote
>
>> What is the correct way to type am or pm, when it comes to time? If
>> it's four in the morning, is it:
>>
>> A. 4am
>> B. 4 a m
>> C. 4AM
>> D. 4 a.m.
>> E. A.M
>>
>> And so on... is there a correct way on how am or pm should be typed
>> out?
>
> For me, it has to be in your form "D": a.m.
For me too. But lots of people prefer 4 A.M. (which is what I suppose E
is supposed to be). I've never seen B, but all the others have some
currency.
>
> That said, I prefer to use the 24-hour clock whenever I can.
--
athel
GFH
There are lots of ways. You just selected a few of the incorrect
ones.
Use:
4 AM
or
0400
GFH
HVS
Is this your own idea of correctness, or do you know of a style guide that
recommends capitalising it?
The only reference I can put my hands on quickly (Burchfield) definitely
recommends "a.m.", with "am" as an alternative.
Glenn Knickerbocker
> Is this your own idea of correctness, or do you know of a style guide that
> recommends capitalising it?
CMoS no longer prefers it but still permits it in small caps, and
prefers to omit the periods (calling them "unnecessary" but not wrong)
when it's in caps.
http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/CMS_FAQ/Abbreviations/Abbreviations03.html
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Farmer Giles
"HVS" <use...@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> wrote in message
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I would say 'am' too - the use of full stops after initals or abbreviations
is rarely used here these days.
FG (UK).
Ian Jackson
<use...@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> writes
mandatory editorial 'guidelines' for grammatical* abbreviations, etc.
The policy was that they should be, far as possible, lower case, without
any avoidable full stops, periods or other punctuation clutter.
The allowable (and logical) exceptions were if an abbreviation, where
used, could (or would) be ambiguous or misinterpreted. So, an initial
"Television" would be "TV" (not "Tv"), but, thereafter in the sentence,
it would be "tv". However, "intermediate frequency" would be (initially)
"I.F.", otherwise i.f.
* Standardized abbreviations for things like physical and engineering
units were not included in this policy.
--
Ian
Leslie Danks
This seems to be the current standard. My "A Handbook for Writers of
English" by John G. Taylor says:
"Previously, capitals were encountered: A.M. and P.M. these are always used
full points. This format is seldom today. (Note that AM = anno mundi, in
the year of the world; PM = Prime Minister.)"
--
Les (BrE)
John Varela
Intermediate Frequency is not a unit, but it's still an engineering
term that I've always seen as IF. Surely you wouldn't write v.h.f.
for Very High Frequency, would you?
--
John Varela
Cece
>
> - Show quoted text -
Use d: 4 a.m.
In full typography, intended for formal printing in a book or
magazine, some publishers still like small caps.
Grammar Geek
The
style I follow is 4 p.m.
I leave the space, and I put in the
periods.
You'll see many variations.
Just make sure you don't
write 4PM in one paragraph and 5:30 p.m. in the next.
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Ian Jackson
<newl...@verizon.net> writes
Of course not. The guidelines requested that it be written as "i.f." (so
that it could not be misread - even momentarily - as the normal word
"if"), and not "IF" or (unless it starting a sentence) as "I.F.". "For
example" and "that is" would be respectively "eg" and "ie", and not
"e.g." or "E.G.", or "i.e." or "I.E."
>, but it's still an engineering
>term that I've always seen as IF. Surely you wouldn't write v.h.f.
>for Very High Frequency, would you?
>
I'm pretty sure that LF, MF, HF, VHF etc were indeed lf, mf, hf and vhf.
Although they are lower-case, you can't mistake them for any normal
words. [These days, I follow the normal convention, and use upper case
letters.] Units like milliamps and decibels were still the standard mA
and dB.
--
Ian
mm
wrote:
D is especially wrong. IIRC there is only one common abbreviation in
English where one partr has a period and the other part doesn't: et
al. That's because "et" is the entire Latin word, not an
abbreviation. There are no one-letter Latin words used in English
abbreviations afaicr. That doesn't mean a period is always
required, but if it's used for one part it should be used for the
other.
>Use:
>4 AM
>or
>0400
>
>GFH
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musika
mm <NOPSAM...@bigfoot.com> typed:
> On Fri, 28 May 2010 05:49:41 -0700 (PDT), GFH <geo...@ankerstein.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On May 28, 6:11 am, Zingo <stefan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> What is the correct way to type am or pm, when it comes to time? If
>>> it's four in the morning, is it:
>>>
>>> A. 4am
>>> B. 4 a m
>>> C. 4AM
>>> D. 4 a.m.
>>> E. A.M
>>>
>>> And so on... is there a correct way on how am or pm should be typed
>>> out?
>>
>> There are lots of ways. You just selected a few of the incorrect
>> ones.
>
> D is especially wrong. IIRC there is only one common abbreviation in
> English where one partr has a period and the other part doesn't: et
> al. That's because "et" is the entire Latin word, not an
> abbreviation. There are no one-letter Latin words used in English
> abbreviations afaicr. That doesn't mean a period is always
> required, but if it's used for one part it should be used for the
> other.
>
--
Ray
UK
mm
Thanks. How did I do that. Does this mean I have to repeat the first
grade?
Jared
<ianREMOVETHISjack...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <Xns9D869B3DB1B6Dwhhv...@news.albasani.net>, HVS
> <use...@REMOVETHISwhhvs.co.uk> writes
>
> >On 28 May 2010, GFH wrote
>
> >> On May 28, 6:11 am, Zingo <stefan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> What is the correct way to type am or pm, when it comes to time? If
> >>> it's four in the morning, is it:
>
> >>> A. 4am
> >>> B. 4 a m
> >>> C. 4AM
> >>> D. 4 a.m.
> >>> E. A.M
>
> >>> And so on... is there a correct way on how am or pm should be typed
> >>> out?
>
> >> There are lots of ways. You just selected a few of the incorrect
> >> ones.
>
> >> Use:
> >> 4 AM
>
> >Is this your own idea of correctness, or do you know of a style guide that
> >recommends capitalising it?
>
> >The only reference I can put my hands on quickly (Burchfield) definitely
> >recommends "a.m.", with "am" as an alternative.
>
> I wrote a few articles for a technical magazine, and there were
> mandatory editorial 'guidelines' for grammatical* abbreviations, etc.
I deal with a lot of date information in computer readable form, and
the most "normal" form that I see 99% of dates in is AM or PM. I'm not
sure that's applicable to something formal, like a book or an article.
The problem I have with using the periods, is that I get stuck on
whether to put a space after the first one.
John Varela
<ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <dxizd0mOwXzR-pn2-idmvgj5t58HS@localhost>, John Varela
> <newl...@verizon.net> writes
> >On Fri, 28 May 2010 15:14:52 UTC, Ian Jackson
> >> I wrote a few articles for a technical magazine, and there were
I can only repeat that I've never seen those frequency bands printed
any way but capitalized without periods, and leave it at that.
Obviously YMV.
--
John Varela
GFH
Google 4 AM. Google equates AM, A.M., a.m., a m,
and am. You will find that all of these variations are quite
common.
GFH
Joseph Curtin
"John Varela" <newl...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Having worked extensively with UHF, VHF, and MW in both a military and a
civilian capacity, and having been a long-time SW DX-er in the LW, MW and SW
bands, I agree. Next thing you know, Q-signals and Z-signals will be written
with small letters. Sinpo code? Int qrk?
AR
Joe from Massachusetts