[... -wich] towns

[Hen Hanna]

as in : Bloxwich, Droitwich, Dunwich, Fordwich, Harwich, Horwich, Ipswich, Middlewich, Nantwich, Northwich, Norwich, Prestwich, Sandwich, West Bromwich.

( why is Greenwich excluded from this list? )


https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wich

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-wich



I guess Kellynch is unrelated.
__________________

Sir Walter Elliot, of Kellynch Hall, in Somersetshire, was a man who,
for his own amusement, never took up any book but the Baronetage; there
he found occupation for an idle hour, and consolation in a distressed
one; there his faculties were roused into admiration and respect, by
contemplating the limited remnant of the earliest patents; there any
unwelcome sensations, arising from domestic affairs changed naturally
into pity and contempt as he turned over the almost endless creations
of the last century; and there, if every other leaf were powerless, he
could read his own history with an interest which never failed. This
was the page at which the favourite volume always opened:

"ELLIOT OF KELLYNCH HALL.

[Don Phillipson]

"Hen Hanna" <henh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:36ca3c7e-9d34-404f...@googlegroups.com...

>
> as in : Bloxwich, Droitwich, Dunwich, Fordwich, Harwich, Horwich,
> Ipswich, Middlewich, Nantwich, Northwich, Norwich, Prestwich, Sandwich,
> West Bromwich.
>
> ( why is Greenwich excluded from this list? )
>
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wich
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-wich

Neither URL displays this list, which may be simply a sample
of place names ending -wich, omitting many more e.g. Greenwich,
Woolwich, Dulwich and so on.

Wiki's suggested pronunciation appears unreliable, so far as the
second syllable of Greenwich, Woolwich and Dulwich were (when
I lived there in the 1950s) all pronounced to rhyme with college.

Several place name suffixes originate in the languages of England
in Anglo-Saxon times, e.g. -by (Derby), -thorp, -ton, -ham and so
forth, discussed (for example) in John Blair's narrative of Anglo-
Saxon England in the Oxford Illustrated History of Britain (2009,
recommended.)
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

[Peter Duncanson [BrE]]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 17:42:16 -0800 (PST), Hen Hanna <henh...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>as in : Bloxwich, Droitwich, Dunwich, Fordwich, Harwich, Horwich, Ipswich, Middlewich, Nantwich, Northwich, Norwich, Prestwich, Sandwich, West Bromwich.
>
> ( why is Greenwich excluded from this list? )
>

Because "wich" in "Greenwich" is different from "wich" in the places in
that list.

>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-wich

That says that "-wich" comes from Latin vicus (“village”).

In Greenwich the "wich" has a different origin and meaning:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich#Toponymy

So named by Danish settlers, Greenwich (Anglo-Saxon equivalent
Grenewic) means the green place of cows on the bay (vig, wich) or
near the mouth of a river (similarly, Schleswig, Sandwich).

>
>
>
>I guess Kellynch is unrelated.
>__________________
>
>Sir Walter Elliot, of Kellynch Hall, in Somersetshire, was a man who,
>for his own amusement, never took up any book but the Baronetage; there
>he found occupation for an idle hour, and consolation in a distressed
>one; there his faculties were roused into admiration and respect, by
>contemplating the limited remnant of the earliest patents; there any
>unwelcome sensations, arising from domestic affairs changed naturally
>into pity and contempt as he turned over the almost endless creations
>of the last century; and there, if every other leaf were powerless, he
>could read his own history with an interest which never failed. This
>was the page at which the favourite volume always opened:
>
> "ELLIOT OF KELLYNCH HALL.

--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.english.usage)

[Hen Hanna]

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 7:43:17 AM UTC-8, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 17:42:16 -0800 (PST), Hen Hanna <...>

> wrote:
>
> >
> >as in : Bloxwich, Droitwich, Dunwich, Fordwich, Harwich, Horwich, Ipswich, Middlewich, Nantwich, Northwich, Norwich, Prestwich, Sandwich, West Bromwich.
> >
> > ( why is Greenwich excluded from this list? )
> >


> Because "wich" in "Greenwich" is different from "wich" in the places in
> that list.
>
> >https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-wich
>
> That says that "-wich" comes from Latin vicus (“village”).
>
> In Greenwich the "wich" has a different origin and meaning:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich#Toponymy
>
> So named by Danish settlers, Greenwich (Anglo-Saxon equivalent
> Grenewic) means the green place of cows on the bay (vig, wich) or
> near the mouth of a river (similarly, Schleswig, Sandwich).

( but this suggests Sandwich and Greenwich share the same wich. )

thanks! I was looking for an explanation like that.


https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wych
== 1. A brine spring or well.


I'm not familiar with these:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brine_spring
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_lick

[Hen Hanna]

On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 5:33:43 AM UTC-8, Don Phillipson wrote:
> "Hen Hanna" <...> wrote in message

> news:36ca3c7e-9d34-404f...@googlegroups.com...
> >
> > as in : Bloxwich, Droitwich, Dunwich, Fordwich, Harwich, Horwich,
> > Ipswich, Middlewich, Nantwich, Northwich, Norwich, Prestwich, Sandwich,
> > West Bromwich.
> >
> > ( why is Greenwich excluded from this list? )
> >
> > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wich
> > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-wich
>
> Neither URL displays this list, which may be simply a sample
> of place names ending -wich, omitting many more e.g. Greenwich,
> Woolwich, Dulwich and so on.
>

Thanks!

the world -famous Greenwich (of GMT) is conspicuously
missing from this page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/-wich_town

HH