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origin of term: hour of the wolf

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Ide Cyan

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Dec 1, 2001, 2:04:31 AM12/1/01
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Can anyone enlighten me as to the origin of the term "the hour of the
wolf"?

Thanks.

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Never got to see her box, though."
- Spike, Notting Hill.

Eric Walker

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Dec 1, 2001, 3:57:53 AM12/1/01
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2001 02:04:31 -0500, Ide Cyan wrote:

>Can anyone enlighten me as to the origin of the term "the hour
>of the wolf"?

This will not be much help, I fear. The term seems so old as to
be nearly universal. One writer mentions it and says "as the
French call it," but that seems a minority view.

A couple of other references suggest Russia: one refers to it,
then says "thanks to growing up under a strong Russian
influence"; another credits a person (writer?) named Susan
Ivanova as using it.

My suspicions, though, are that it is Scandinavian. A woman
named Katarina Throstrand, writing in English from a university
in Canada, refers to it as a phrase from her native land; a
self-styled pagan group refers to a ritual called "Freya's
Commencement" as beginning at the Hour of the Wolf; a group in
Norway styles itself Vargtimen; and there is the Bergman film.

(Also, since the name "Russia" is supposed to be derived from
"rus," red, owing to the Norse depredations but also
infiltrations, a Norse-Russian connection seems plausible.)

I do hope, though, that some expert has better information.


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Eric Walker, Owlcroft House


Ide Cyan

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Dec 1, 2001, 7:16:14 PM12/1/01
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Eric Walker wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Dec 2001 02:04:31 -0500, Ide Cyan wrote:
> >Can anyone enlighten me as to the origin of the term "the hour
> >of the wolf"?
>
> This will not be much help, I fear. The term seems so old as to
> be nearly universal. One writer mentions it and says "as the
> French call it," but that seems a minority view.

Hm. Perhaps I would have better luck with it if I looked up l'heure du
loup.

> A couple of other references suggest Russia: one refers to it,
> then says "thanks to growing up under a strong Russian
> influence"; another credits a person (writer?) named Susan
> Ivanova as using it.

The Susan Ivanova reference is the one I'd already seen for myself, but
you'll be disappointed to learn that she isn't a real person. Ivanova
was a character on the television series Babylon 5. She used the
expression in one episode.

<snip>


> I do hope, though, that some expert has better information.

Thanks for your reply; I hope so too.

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