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heylow

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Sep 12, 2009, 2:42:07 AM9/12/09
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is /t/ in sacramento a tapped sound like that of /d/?


Bill McCray

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Sep 12, 2009, 10:21:57 AM9/12/09
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On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:42:07 -0700 (PDT), heylow <vnr...@gmail.com>
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> is /t/ in sacramento a tapped sound like that of /d/?
>

I say it and hear it as a "t" sound. My son and his family live
there.

Bill in Kentucky

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CDB

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Sep 13, 2009, 12:54:53 PM9/13/09
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heylow wrote:
> is /t/ in sacramento a tapped sound like that of /d/?

Not in North American English. If the word is not fully pronounced,
the "t" may disappear entirely (twenny, Sacramenno), but it doesn't
convert to a labiodental flap. I have heard Australians pronounce the
word "twenty" in a way that sounded like* "twendy" to me: maybe that
was the tapped sound you are thinking of.

*ObPunctuation: no commas, no lisp, no scare-quotes.


GFH

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Sep 14, 2009, 3:27:08 AM9/14/09
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On 12 sep, 08:42, heylow <vnr1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> is /t/ in sacramento a tapped sound like that of /d/?

Pay no attention to Arnold's pronunciation -- of anything,
even his Austrian German has gotten quite poor.

GFH

Patok

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Sep 14, 2009, 5:12:55 PM9/14/09
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CDB wrote:
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> If the word is not fully pronounced,
> the "t" may disappear entirely (twenny, Sacramenno)

It does, doesn't it? Whew, I feel vindicated. I was thinking that
this is the way of folksy, low-brow talking, when one wants to be
understood by Wal-Mart or fast-food place employees. But my family (who
have a better ear for language than me), insisted that saying "twenny"
is wrong since nobody talks like that. Thanks.

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