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Tim Frink

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Mar 21, 2010, 7:31:49 AM3/21/10
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Hi,

what is the correct form:
"many thanks go to someone" or "many thanks goes to someone" ?

I'm not sure if "thanks" can be considered singular or plural.

Regards,
Tim

Leslie Danks

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Mar 21, 2010, 7:52:22 AM3/21/10
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Tim Frink wrote:

For me, it's plural; but why not leave "go(es)" out all together:

"Many thanks to someone"?

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Les (BrE)

Alex-93

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Mar 21, 2010, 8:01:12 AM3/21/10
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I think you can use both. Thought I've heard both versions.Normally I
would use "goes". How about using " Many thanks to someone .."

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mm

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Mar 21, 2010, 8:35:45 AM3/21/10
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:31:49 +0000 (UTC), Tim Frink <plf...@yahoo.de>
wrote:

It's plural. If it were singular, you yourself would have said "much
thanks".

If you say "Much thanks goes to someone", then it's singular.
>
>Regards,
>Tim

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Mxsmanic

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Mar 21, 2010, 8:47:46 AM3/21/10
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Tim Frink writes:

It's plural:

"Our thanks go to him."
"Those are the thanks I get."

Dr Peter Young

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Mar 21, 2010, 8:51:38 AM3/21/10
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On 21 Mar 2010 mm <NOPSAM...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:31:49 +0000 (UTC), Tim Frink <plf...@yahoo.de>
> wrote:

>>Hi,
>>
>>what is the correct form:
>>"many thanks go to someone" or "many thanks goes to someone" ?
>>
>>I'm not sure if "thanks" can be considered singular or plural.

> It's plural. If it were singular, you yourself would have said "much
> thanks".

Which is what the late Mr Shakespeare wrote. "For this relief much
thanks"; Hamlet, Act 1 scene 1, if I remember correctly.

With best wishes,

Peter.

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Ian Jackson

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Mar 21, 2010, 9:30:26 AM3/21/10
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In message <4ba606d3$0$13735$91ce...@newsreader03.highway.telekom.at>,
Leslie Danks <leslie...@aon.at> writes
I would usually say plural. However, if it was a shortened version of
something like "An expression of many thanks ...", it would be singular.
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Leslie Danks

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Mar 21, 2010, 9:50:50 AM3/21/10
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Ian Jackson wrote:

Yes, because then "expression" is the relevant noun.

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mm

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Mar 21, 2010, 6:40:48 PM3/21/10
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:50:50 +0100, Leslie Danks <leslie...@aon.at>
wrote:

Well, most of the time, but we haven't seen the whole sentence. If
it's "An expression of many thanks was sent to the donor", absolutely
right.

If it is "An expression of many thanks, as were sent in several
recordings spoken in several langauges, merci, todah, gracias" then
Ian is wrong and "thanks" still takes the plural verb "were".

Leslie Danks

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Mar 21, 2010, 7:16:47 PM3/21/10
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mm wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:50:50 +0100, Leslie Danks <leslie...@aon.at>
> wrote:
>
>>Ian Jackson wrote:
>>
>>> In message <4ba606d3$0$13735$91ce...@newsreader03.highway.telekom.at>,
>>> Leslie Danks <leslie...@aon.at> writes
>>>>Tim Frink wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> what is the correct form:
>>>>> "many thanks go to someone" or "many thanks goes to someone" ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure if "thanks" can be considered singular or plural.
>>>>
>>>>For me, it's plural; but why not leave "go(es)" out all together:
>>>>
>>>>"Many thanks to someone"?
>>>>
>>> I would usually say plural. However, if it was a shortened version of
>>> something like "An expression of many thanks ...", it would be singular.
>>
>>Yes, because then "expression" is the relevant noun.
>
> Well, most of the time, but we haven't seen the whole sentence. If
> it's "An expression of many thanks was sent to the donor", absolutely
> right.
>
> If it is "An expression of many thanks, as were sent in several
> recordings spoken in several langauges, merci, todah, gracias" then
> Ian is wrong and "thanks" still takes the plural verb "were".

"Thanks" always takes the plural verb. As I intimated above, the verb
becomes singular in situations where the subject of the verb (expression,
in this case) is singular. Your "sentence", which is only part of a
sentence, makes me uneasy. Would you like to complete it?

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Les (BrE)

Ian Jackson

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Mar 22, 2010, 4:14:31 AM3/22/10
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In message <4ba6a73d$0$12832$91ce...@newsreader04.highway.telekom.at>,
Mulling things over, I've realised that you sometimes hear "A big thanks
goes to ...". You don't usually hear "A big thanks go to ...", because
"thanks" is short for the singular compound noun "thank you". Maybe it
should be spelt "thankyou" or "thank-you"?
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Ian

Leslie Danks

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Mar 22, 2010, 5:15:02 AM3/22/10
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Ian Jackson wrote:

[...]

> Mulling things over, I've realised that you sometimes hear "A big thanks
> goes to ...". You don't usually hear "A big thanks go to ...", because
> "thanks" is short for the singular compound noun "thank you". Maybe it
> should be spelt "thankyou" or "thank-you"?

I don't think I would say "a thanks", no matter how big it was. Do you think
I, personally, should take a plural verb?

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Les (BrE)
Danks for the memory.

Pat Durkin

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Mar 22, 2010, 11:51:49 AM3/22/10
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"Tim Frink" <plf...@yahoo.de> wrote in message
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Since "many thanks" and other related expressions are rather fixed
expressions, I don't think there is much to quibble about in US usage.
Except in rather formal writing, the singular will probably not be
questioned. Some listeners will relate "thanks" to "thanksgiving",
and not stop to remind themselves that the latter might refer to the
gratitude of many or many to whom gratitude is wished "Your
thanksgiving is most welcome."

In fact, I can't think of a single occasion in which the singular
_noun_ "thank" is used or appropriate. The expression is "a
thank(-)you", so one understands "many thanks" as an abbreviation of
"many thank (you)s".


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