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Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 8, 2016, 5:23:57 AM11/8/16
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Why not Smoke storage?

How about Cigarette storage? Or maybe Exhaust storage? :)

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 8, 2016, 5:25:48 AM11/8/16
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On 8/11/2016 6:23 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>
> Why not Smoke storage?
>
> How about Cigarette storage? Or maybe Exhaust storage? :)
>

Fart storage? :)

Dan S. MacAbre

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Nov 8, 2016, 5:33:11 AM11/8/16
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Nebulous storage?

Anton Shepelev

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Nov 8, 2016, 5:33:19 AM11/8/16
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Mr. Man-wai Chang:

>Why not Smoke storage?
>
>How about Cigarette storage? Or maybe Exhaust stor-
>age? :)

"Cloud" countable, and denotes a separate thing that
is formed by many small and similar particles.
"Smoke" and "exhaust" are not countable and
"cigarette" make no sense in the context.

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Anton Shepelev

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Nov 8, 2016, 5:34:39 AM11/8/16
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Dan S. MacAbre:

> Nebulous storage?

Swarm storage.

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 8, 2016, 5:45:59 AM11/8/16
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On 8/11/2016 6:33 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
> "Cloud" countable, and denotes a separate thing that
> is formed by many small and similar particles.

How far apart should clouds be to be countable? Where is that clear
boundary?

Is it defined by and visible only to YOU, Your Honor? :)

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 8, 2016, 5:47:01 AM11/8/16
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On 8/11/2016 6:34 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
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> Swarm storage.

Colony? :)

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 8, 2016, 5:47:19 AM11/8/16
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On 8/11/2016 6:33 PM, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
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>> Fart storage? :)
>
> Nebulous storage?

Smell? :)

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 8, 2016, 6:11:13 AM11/8/16
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BTW, did you notice "cloud" and "could" are very similar? :)

Peter Duncanson [BrE]

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Nov 8, 2016, 7:21:11 AM11/8/16
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In the days before cloud storage the connections between computers would
often be shown on a diagram as a cloud. The cloud represented the fact
that things were connected, but didn't show the details of the
connections.
https://blog.pearlstreetgroup.com/2010/09/22/a-bright-cloudy-future/

The name Cloud Computing was taken from the use of a picture of a
“Cloud” to simplify how computers in a network were linked together,
as shown below:
https://pearlstreetgroup.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/cloud-network2.png


More recently the ideas of "cloud storage" and "cloud computing" have
been introduced. The idea is that somewhere, not described or pictured,
hence "in the cloud", there are storage facilities and computing
facilities.

--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.english.usage)

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 8, 2016, 7:22:39 AM11/8/16
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On 8/11/2016 8:21 PM, Peter Duncanson [BrE] wrote:
> In the days before cloud storage the connections between computers would
> often be shown on a diagram as a cloud. The cloud represented the fact
> that things were connected, but didn't show the details of the
> connections.

So that's the sign, the clue, the cue, and hence, a vision if not a
prophecy.

Thank you for reminding that, Your Honor! :)

Shadow

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Nov 8, 2016, 7:39:21 AM11/8/16
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2016 18:23:57 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
<toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:

Because although anyone can see them, they don't own them.
And they can easily disappear.
[]'s

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Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 8, 2016, 7:51:24 AM11/8/16
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On 8/11/2016 8:38 PM, Shadow wrote:
> Because although anyone can see them, they don't own them.
> And they can easily disappear.

So it's a friendly reminder, a warning sign?

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 8, 2016, 7:52:32 AM11/8/16
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On 8/11/2016 8:38 PM, Shadow wrote:
>
> Because although anyone can see them, they don't own them.
> And they can easily disappear.

And would *YOU* put anything in it?

Please swear/vow/pledge that you would tell me the true answer. :)

Michael Moroney

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Nov 8, 2016, 8:19:41 AM11/8/16
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"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet...@gmail.com> writes:


>Why not Smoke storage?

>How about Cigarette storage? Or maybe Exhaust storage? :)

It's probably from engineering diagrams of networks and whiteboard
network diagrams from many engineering conferences, where an unspecified
large network group (for example, the internet as a whole) is often drawn
as a cloud rather than any attempt to actually diagram it. This is old
usage.

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 8, 2016, 8:47:35 AM11/8/16
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On 8/11/2016 9:19 PM, Michael Moroney wrote:
> It's probably from engineering diagrams of networks and whiteboard
> network diagrams from many engineering conferences, where an unspecified
> large network group (for example, the internet as a whole) is often drawn
> as a cloud rather than any attempt to actually diagram it. This is old
> usage.

But you didn't or don't have to call that symbol "cloud"... Why did it
use a GENERIC item, as in how Micro$oft called its operating systems
"Windows"? And Apple was not a fruit company. :)

Anton Shepelev

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Nov 8, 2016, 2:54:18 PM11/8/16
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Mr. Man-wai Chang to Anton Shepelev:

> > "Cloud" countable, and denotes a separate thing
> > that is formed by many small and similar parti-
> > cles.
>
> How far apart should clouds be to be countable?
> Where is that clear boundary?

It is very hard--if not impossible!--to formalize
the work of the neural network that makes the dis-
tinction.

> Is it defined by and visible only to YOU, Your
> Honor? :)

Oh, no, sir. Mine is the general perception set
down in all dictionaries. Watch out for yours lest
it turn out to be the idiosychratic one!

Thomas Heger

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Nov 8, 2016, 3:05:16 PM11/8/16
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Am 08.11.2016 11:23, schrieb Mr. Man-wai Chang:
>
> Why not Smoke storage?
>
> How about Cigarette storage? Or maybe Exhaust storage? :)
>
'Cloud' sounds like the German word 'klaut'.

'klauen' is a (slang) verb and denotes the activity of stealing:

e.g. 'Er klaut' means 'he is stealing'.

g-cloud sounds like 'geklaut', what means 'stolen'.

;-)

SCNR


TH

Government Shill #2

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Nov 8, 2016, 3:07:17 PM11/8/16
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Same as a black box flight recorder. A black box, in terms of an electronic
circuit diagram, is a piece of equipment drawn as just a box without further
elaboration. It has nothing to do with the colour it is painted.

Shill #2
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Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 9, 2016, 6:03:06 AM11/9/16
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On 9/11/2016 3:54 AM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
> It is very hard--if not impossible!--to formalize
> the work of the neural network that makes the dis-
> tinction.
> > ....
> Oh, no, sir. Mine is the general perception set
> down in all dictionaries. Watch out for yours lest
> it turn out to be the idiosychratic one!

So could we come up with a good algorithm to count clouds so that it's
really countable by all mankind, and, to meet the requirements of most
published and distributed dictionaries? :)

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 9, 2016, 6:04:27 AM11/9/16
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On 9/11/2016 4:05 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> 'Cloud' sounds like the German word 'klaut'.
>
> 'klauen' is a (slang) verb and denotes the activity of stealing:
>
> e.g. 'Er klaut' means 'he is stealing'.
>
> g-cloud sounds like 'geklaut', what means 'stolen'.
>
> ;-)

Thank you, for offering a German perspective and insight, Master.


Thomas Heger

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Nov 11, 2016, 2:30:13 AM11/11/16
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Am 09.11.2016 12:04, schrieb Mr. Man-wai Chang:

>> 'Cloud' sounds like the German word 'klaut'.
>>
>> 'klauen' is a (slang) verb and denotes the activity of stealing:
>>
>> e.g. 'Er klaut' means 'he is stealing'.
>>
>> g-cloud sounds like 'geklaut', what means 'stolen'.
>>
>> ;-)
>
> Thank you, for offering a German perspective and insight, Master.
>

The English language belongs to the same family of languages as German
and Dutch, but has more roots, like French and Latin.

So there is always the possibility of 'cross-language yokes.

E.g. the character 'Bart Simpson' has a head like a rivet.

'rivet' in German means 'Niete'. This word has also the side meaning of
a lottery ticket, that did not win. IOW 'Niete' means 'looser' in English.

This is apparently, what the creators of these films tried to express.

His initials are 'BS', what is also a commonly known abbreviation.

So we have a 'cross-language yoke', which includes German and English
(possibly Dutch).

This yoke is about a typical US lower middle class family and their
troubles.


TH

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 11, 2016, 5:39:00 AM11/11/16
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On 11/11/2016 6:04 PM, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote:
> Looks more like a saw.
> Since when?
> I've heard niete used in reference to a nail, but never "looser."
> Or loser, as you may have intended.

The Jesus syndrome?

> Nothing about The Simpsons is typical. That's kind of the point.

The Simpsons complexity?

Are you still replying to the US President Election? We are talking
about Cloud storage here. It's the other room.

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 11, 2016, 7:06:50 AM11/11/16
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On 9/11/2016 4:07 AM, Government Shill #2 wrote:
> Same as a black box flight recorder. A black box, in terms of an electronic
> circuit diagram, is a piece of equipment drawn as just a box without further
> elaboration. It has nothing to do with the colour it is painted.

You talking about the Ark, Master? :)

Thomas Heger

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Nov 11, 2016, 4:20:54 PM11/11/16
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Am 11.11.2016 11:04, schrieb K Wills (Shill #3):

>> E.g. the character 'Bart Simpson' has a head like a rivet.
>>
>
> Looks more like a saw.
>
>> 'rivet' in German means 'Niete'. This word has also the side meaning of
>> a lottery ticket, that did not win. IOW 'Niete' means 'looser' in English.
>>
>
> Since when?
> I've heard niete used in reference to a nail, but never "looser."
> Or loser, as you may have intended.


The German word 'Niete' has three meanings:

1) Versager (looser)
2) Metallstift (rivet)
3 Los (loosing lottery ticket)

http://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Niete_Nichtsnutz_Los


>> This is apparently, what the creators of these films tried to express.
>>
>> His initials are 'BS', what is also a commonly known abbreviation.
>>
>> So we have a 'cross-language yoke', which includes German and English
>> (possibly Dutch).
>>
>> This yoke is about a typical US lower middle class family and their
>> troubles.
>
> Nothing about The Simpsons is typical. That's kind of the point.
>

The plots of these films are certainly fictional. But depicted is a
certain kind of family with a certain social status.

This would be 'lower middle class' (in my opinion).

TH

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 12, 2016, 5:16:11 AM11/12/16
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On 12/11/2016 6:12 PM, K Wills wrote:
> With your dishonest snipping of the context, there is no way to
> know that.

Calm down... Usenet is just a wall!

Patok

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Nov 12, 2016, 6:17:56 AM11/12/16
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Thomas Heger wrote:
>
> The German word 'Niete' has three meanings:
>
> 1) Versager (looser)
> 2) Metallstift (rivet)
> 3 Los (loosing lottery ticket)


You are aware that English has both "lose" and "loose", right? And they mean
different things? And that the one you should use is "lose", related to the
German "Los"?

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Mr. Man-wai Chang

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On 12/11/2016 7:18 PM, Patok wrote:
> You are aware that English has both "lose" and "loose", right? And
> they mean different things? And that the one you should use is "lose",
> related to the German "Los"?

Then what's the meaning of "Los Angeles"?

Patok

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If the name was German, it would probably mean "The loss of Angeles" or
somesuch, whatever "Angeles" would happen to mean in German. But since the name
is not German, it doesn't.
What does "Los Angeles" mean in Mandarin?

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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On 12/11/2016 8:00 PM, Patok wrote:
>
> If the name was German, it would probably mean "The loss of Angeles"
> or somesuch, whatever "Angeles" would happen to mean in German. But
> since the name is not German, it doesn't.
>
> What does "Los Angeles" mean in Mandarin?

I don't speak native Mandarin nor Putonghua. I speak Cantonese. :)


Mr. Man-wai Chang

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On 12/11/2016 7:18 PM, Patok wrote:
> You are aware that English has both "lose" and "loose", right?

But most human beings would NOT spell and pronounce it right. Everyone
just hear what they wanna hear in the seal of the context! :)

Thomas Heger

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Am 12.11.2016 11:13, schrieb K Wills:

>>>> E.g. the character 'Bart Simpson' has a head like a rivet.
>>>
>>> Looks more like a saw.
>>>
>>>> 'rivet' in German means 'Niete'. This word has also the side meaning of
>>>> a lottery ticket, that did not win. IOW 'Niete' means 'looser' in English.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Since when?
>>> I've heard niete used in reference to a nail, but never "looser."
>>> Or loser, as you may have intended.
>>
>>
>> The German word 'Niete' has three meanings:
>>
>> 1) Versager (looser)
>> 2) Metallstift (rivet)
>> 3 Los (loosing lottery ticket)
>>
>> http://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Niete_Nichtsnutz_Los
>>
>
> That's German, not English. Your claim, as seen above, is, "IOW
> 'Niete' means 'looser' in English."


The GERMAN word 'Niete' has different meanings and one of them has the
ENGLISH word 'looser'. Another meaning is a thing, which is called
'rivet' in English.

The third meaning is a 'non winning lottery ticket'.
(Don't know, if English has a word for this.)

TH

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 13, 2016, 1:29:31 AM11/13/16
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On 13/11/2016 8:12 AM, K Wills wrote:
>>
>> Then what's the meaning of "Los Angeles"?
>
> Do you mean the translation? It would translate as Die Engel.

1. What is "Engel"? What is "engel"? :)
2. What is "Die"? What is "die"? :)
3. Does this country have a person called Engel or "Engel"?
4. Is it a secret military code?


Mr. Man-wai Chang

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On 13/11/2016 5:24 PM, K Wills wrote:
> You have to have someone stop by your place to help you with the
> activities of daily living. No one as mentally unbalanced as you show
> yourself to be can survive without assistance.
> Or is it all an act on your part??

You are not helping us. :)

Shadow

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On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 03:24:31 -0600, K Wills <comp...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> You have to have someone stop by your place to help you with the
>activities of daily living. No one as mentally unbalanced as you show
>yourself to be can survive without assistance.
> Or is it all an act on your part??

Chinese AI project. Still in the Alpha stage.
We have one in English in a.c.f too, see if you can spot it.
[]'s

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 13, 2016, 6:23:52 AM11/13/16
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On 13/11/2016 7:01 PM, Shadow wrote:
> Chinese AI project. Still in the Alpha stage.
> We have one in English in a.c.f too, see if you can spot it.
> []'s

What happened to the older Artificial Personality Mentality Character
Project? :)

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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On 13/11/2016 9:54 PM, K Wills wrote:
> That actually makes a lot of sense. It would explain so much of
> Chang's inability to understand reality.

You can't take mental jokes, can you? You don't have the imagination,
patience, and tolerance. :)

Thomas Heger

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Am 13.11.2016 15:16, schrieb Mr. Man-wai Chang:

>> That actually makes a lot of sense. It would explain so much of
>> Chang's inability to understand reality.
>
> You can't take mental jokes, can you? You don't have the imagination,
> patience, and tolerance. :)
>

No, he can't.

I have made this experience several times, but 'K Wills' did not laugh.

So I have speculated, that 'K Wills' is actually a program, running at
some secret NSA supercomputers.


TH

Thomas Heger

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Am 13.11.2016 01:11, schrieb K Wills:

>>>>>> 'rivet' in German means 'Niete'. This word has also the side meaning of
>>>>>> a lottery ticket, that did not win. IOW 'Niete' means 'looser' in English.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Since when?
>>>>> I've heard niete used in reference to a nail, but never "looser."
>>>>> Or loser, as you may have intended.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The German word 'Niete' has three meanings:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Versager (looser)
>>>> 2) Metallstift (rivet)
>>>> 3 Los (loosing lottery ticket)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Niete_Nichtsnutz_Los
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's German, not English. Your claim, as seen above, is, "IOW
>>> 'Niete' means 'looser' in English."
>>
>>
>> The GERMAN word 'Niete' has different meanings and one of them has the
>> ENGLISH word 'looser'.
>
> Nope. It does not mean anything like looser.
>
>> Another meaning is a thing, which is called
>> 'rivet' in English.
>>
>
> Again you're wrong. But you will already knew that.
>
>> The third meaning is a 'non winning lottery ticket'.
>> (Don't know, if English has a word for this.)
>
> That would be a losing ticket. At no time has it ever been
> associated with Niete.


Now we have such wonderful tools as Google.translator and paste the
German 'Duden' page about the word 'Niete' into it:

https://translate.google.de/?hl=de&tab=wT#auto/en/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.duden.de%2Frechtschreibung%2FNiete_Nichtsnutz_Los

Quote:

"Meaning of overview

1) Lot that does not bring any profit
2) (Colloquially) someone who is not good enough; incapable man


"


TH

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 14, 2016, 5:01:42 AM11/14/16
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On 14/11/2016 5:57 PM, K Wills wrote:
> Post something funny, and I will.
> Actually, you have LIED and claimed that I am such. No
> speculation offered.

How many jokers had you accused, prosecuted and executed here? :)

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 14, 2016, 5:02:41 AM11/14/16
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On 14/11/2016 1:47 PM, Thomas Heger wrote:
> No, he can't.
> I have made this experience several times, but 'K Wills' did not laugh.
> So I have speculated, that 'K Wills' is actually a program, running at
> some secret NSA supercomputers.

Did you notice that he/she never answered "yes" and "no"? ;)

BDK

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Nov 14, 2016, 3:32:18 PM11/14/16
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In article <e8t1eq...@mid.individual.net>, ttt...@web.de says...
>
> Am 13.11.2016 15:16, schrieb Mr. Man-wai Chang:
>
> >> That actually makes a lot of sense. It would explain so much of
> >> Chang's inability to understand reality.
> >
> > You can't take mental jokes, can you? You don't have the imagination,
> > patience, and tolerance. :)
> >
>
> No, he can't.
>
> I have made this experience several times, but 'K Wills' did not laugh.

Well, your attempt at jokes doesn't seem to work, ever. Your language
skills aren't helping you.

>
> So I have speculated, that 'K Wills' is actually a program, running at
> some secret NSA supercomputers.

He and I have speculated you're a loon.

>
>
> TH



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BDK

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Nov 14, 2016, 3:33:09 PM11/14/16
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In article <o0c216$62p$1...@dont-email.me>, toylet...@gmail.com says...
How does someone do any of the above things on usenet?

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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On 15/11/2016 4:32 AM, BDK wrote:
>
> Well, your attempt at jokes doesn't seem to work, ever. Your language
> skills aren't helping you.
>
> He and I have speculated you're a loon.

Are you trained to kill persons that smile or laugh? Are you paid to do
that, Your Will? :)

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 15, 2016, 5:00:01 AM11/15/16
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On 15/11/2016 5:58 PM, K Wills wrote:
>>
>> How many jokers had you accused, prosecuted and executed here? :)
>
> Could you ask that again, but be sane?

How many jokers had you accused and prosecuted? :)


Mr. Man-wai Chang

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On 15/11/2016 5:59 PM, K Wills wrote:
> Zero. To the mentally sound, it's impossible to prosecute and
> execute anyone on Usenet. Based on your posts, which is all I have to
> go on, you will be unable to understand.

Then you just want to bully so as to show your strength! ;)

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 15, 2016, 5:14:11 AM11/15/16
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On 15/11/2016 6:06 PM, K Wills wrote:
>
> Context restored.
> Did you think removing the context would benefit you?

No, I am trying to understand and interpret your mind. :)

>> How many jokers had you accused and prosecuted? :)
>
> Still not what any reasonably rational person would call sane.
> Maybe you could have your psychiatrist translate it.

How many jokers had you accused and prosecuted them as "off-topic"? :)


BDK

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In article <j2nl2c17tefd8qchk...@4ax.com>,
comp...@gmail.com says...
>
> On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 15:32:07 -0500, BDK <Con...@Worldcontrol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <e8t1eq...@mid.individual.net>, ttt...@web.de says...
> >>
> >> Am 13.11.2016 15:16, schrieb Mr. Man-wai Chang:
> >>
> >> >> That actually makes a lot of sense. It would explain so much of
> >> >> Chang's inability to understand reality.
> >> >
> >> > You can't take mental jokes, can you? You don't have the imagination,
> >> > patience, and tolerance. :)
> >>
> >> No, he can't.
> >>
> >> I have made this experience several times, but 'K Wills' did not laugh.
> >
> >Well, your attempt at jokes doesn't seem to work, ever. Your language
> >skills aren't helping you.
> >
>
> The thing is, Thomas has very acceptable language skills. And he
> knows his claims about rivets and a losing lottery ticket, for
> example, are false.

I disagree, he seems to have gotten some of his ideas simply because of
his bad understanding of English.

>
> >> So I have speculated, that 'K Wills' is actually a program, running at
> >> some secret NSA supercomputers.
> >
> >He and I have speculated you're a loon.
> >
>
> And there is ample evidence to support our speculation. Thomas'
> speculation has as much evidence as his claim of a growing earth. That
> is, none.

I'm surprised he's not a "Flat Earther".

BDK

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In article <o0em8i$em4$2...@dont-email.me>, toylet...@gmail.com says...
Could you sober up and try that again, in sane?

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 15, 2016, 6:07:37 AM11/15/16
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>>
>> Are you trained to kill persons that smile or laugh? Are you paid to do
>> that, Your Will? :)
>
> Could you sober up and try that again, in sane?
>

Are you trained to bully and scream at smiles or laugher?

Shadow

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Nov 15, 2016, 6:23:43 AM11/15/16
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On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 03:58:29 -0600, K Wills <comp...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Could you ask that again, but be sane?

Could you please move this thread away from our newsgroups ?
Mang Pang is a Chinese AI prototype, early Alpha. For now, it
has no logic circuits, it just plays with words and analyses
reactions.
Expect completely irrelevant responses with the words:
Wizards, black magic, ISIS, God, prosecuted, Angels,
biological, witches, dark, lawyer ......
IOW, Chinese expressions the AI has trouble translating,
because they have a different concept out there.
TY
[]'s

(alt.comp.freeware and alt.conspiracy REMOVED from follow-ups)

PS You are welcome to attempt to translate any of the posts by the
American AI (a Beta), "Flasherly", also present in alt.comp.freeware.
Most people can't get past the first line.

Peter Young

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Nov 15, 2016, 1:43:27 PM11/15/16
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On 15 Nov 2016 Shadow <S...@dow.br> wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 03:58:29 -0600, K Wills <comp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

>>On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 18:01:42 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
>><toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 14/11/2016 5:57 PM, K Wills wrote:
>>>> Post something funny, and I will.
>>>> Actually, you have LIED and claimed that I am such. No
>>>> speculation offered.
>>>
>>>How many jokers had you accused, prosecuted and executed here? :)
>>
>> Could you ask that again, but be sane?

> Could you please move this thread away from our newsgroups ?
> Mang Pang is a Chinese AI prototype, early Alpha. For now, it
> has no logic circuits, it just plays with words and analyses
> reactions.
> Expect completely irrelevant responses with the words:
> Wizards, black magic, ISIS, God, prosecuted, Angels,
> biological, witches, dark, lawyer ......
> IOW, Chinese expressions the AI has trouble translating,
> because they have a different concept out there.
> TY
> []'s

> (alt.comp.freeware and alt.conspiracy REMOVED from follow-ups)

And alt.conspiracy added to the killfile. Sigh!

Peter

--
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk

BDK

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Nov 15, 2016, 7:48:44 PM11/15/16
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In article <o0eq8o$rhi$1...@dont-email.me>, toylet...@gmail.com says...
Try again.

Diesel

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Nov 15, 2016, 9:19:24 PM11/15/16
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"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet...@gmail.com>
news:o06tq4$f6h$1...@dont-email.me Sat, 12 Nov 2016 11:18:59 GMT in
alt.comp.freeware, wrote:

> On 12/11/2016 7:18 PM, Patok wrote:
>> You are aware that English has both "lose" and "loose", right?
>> And
>> they mean different things? And that the one you should use is
>> "lose", related to the German "Los"?
>
> Then what's the meaning of "Los Angeles"?
>
>

er... clusterfuck?


--
Make yourself sheep and the wolves will eat you.
Benjamin Franklin

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 15, 2016, 10:15:28 PM11/15/16
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On 16/11/2016 8:48 AM, BDK wrote:
>>
>> Are you trained to bully and scream at smiles or laugher?
>>
>> Are you paid to do that, Your Will? :)
>
> Try again.
>

Mentally, non-mentally, physically, or non-physically? :)

Thomas Heger

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Nov 16, 2016, 12:50:08 AM11/16/16
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Am 12.11.2016 12:18, schrieb Patok:

>> The German word 'Niete' has three meanings:
>>
>> 1) Versager (looser)
>> 2) Metallstift (rivet)
>> 3 Los (loosing lottery ticket)
>
>
> You are aware that English has both "lose" and "loose", right? And they
> mean different things? And that the one you should use is "lose",
> related to the German "Los"?
>

Sorry, my error: the English word is 'loser'.

And in German this is: Versager, Verlierer, 'Niete'.

'Niete' stems from 'not winning ticket' (in kind of lottery).

It is the same word a is used for 'rivet', but from different roots.

So: to depict a loser with the head of a rivet is a joke, that requires
the German language as a background (since in English the joke does not
work).


TH

BDK

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Nov 16, 2016, 4:33:11 AM11/16/16
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In article <o0give$1ne$1...@dont-email.me>, toylet...@gmail.com says...
In a fluxing state between energy and matter...

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 16, 2016, 5:12:49 AM11/16/16
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On 16/11/2016 6:02 PM, K Wills wrote:
>
> You lack the mental stability necessary for such.

Do you consider yourself clever and smart? :)

>> How many jokers had you accused and prosecuted them as "off-topic"? :)
>
> Again, maybe you should have your psychiatrist translate. As it
> stands, your questions can't be understood by the mentally sound.

Are you a teacher in some departments of psychiatry if not psychology?

Are you testing your newly discovered interrogation, inquisition and if
not torture skills?

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 16, 2016, 5:13:28 AM11/16/16
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On 16/11/2016 6:02 PM, K Wills wrote:
>>
>> I'm surprised he's not a "Flat Earther".
>
> The level of valid evidence for either is equal.

Are you training your mind to deny everything, nothing but orders? :)

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 16, 2016, 5:14:22 AM11/16/16
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On 16/11/2016 6:02 PM, K Wills wrote:
>>
>> Are you paid to do that, Your Will? :)
>
> That's a "no" then. You can't sober up and try again.
> Bummer.

I don't think you are sober. You are still trying to act like a
professional psychiatrist if not a psychologist. :)

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 16, 2016, 5:19:53 AM11/16/16
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On 16/11/2016 5:33 PM, BDK wrote:
>>
>> Mentally, non-mentally, physically, or non-physically? :)
>
> In a fluxing state between energy and matter...

The infamous E=mc2 equation? Do you believe in it? Do you trust and
manage it? :)

BDK

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Nov 16, 2016, 5:30:46 AM11/16/16
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In article <o0hbr7$7j5$6...@dont-email.me>, toylet...@gmail.com says...
I believe in the transporter from "Star Trek".

Atomic bombs go boom.

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 16, 2016, 5:32:15 AM11/16/16
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On 16/11/2016 6:30 PM, BDK wrote:
>>
>> The infamous E=mc2 equation? Do you believe in it? Do you trust and
>> manage it? :)
>
> I believe in the transporter from "Star Trek".
> Atomic bombs go boom.

Very good observation, Your Curiosity! :)

Is there a way to travel in light speed *without* being converted into
energy, as well as keeping your brain intact and undamaged? :)

BDK

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Nov 16, 2016, 5:37:26 AM11/16/16
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Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 16, 2016, 5:59:15 AM11/16/16
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On 16/11/2016 6:37 PM, BDK wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqNwj8HSVKc

Executive Summary please! Waste of time to watch stupid academic if not
promotional/advertisement/propaganda video....

I know how to read and write simple English! :)

BDK

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Nov 16, 2016, 6:07:07 AM11/16/16
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In article <o0hcie$7j5$1...@dont-email.me>, toylet...@gmail.com
says...
In your case, no.

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 16, 2016, 6:16:34 AM11/16/16
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On 16/11/2016 7:06 PM, BDK wrote:
>>
>> Is there a way to travel in light speed *without* being converted into
>> energy, as well as keeping your brain intact and undamaged? :)
>
> In your case, no.
>

How about you, Master Strange? :)

BDK

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Nov 16, 2016, 4:58:45 PM11/16/16
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In article <o0he51$gfe$1...@dont-email.me>, toylet...@gmail.com says...
It's a couple of minutes long, and Star Trek is hardly academic or
anything else but entertaining.

Thomas Heger

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Nov 19, 2016, 1:30:45 AM11/19/16
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Am 16.11.2016 11:02, schrieb K Wills:

>>>
>>> The thing is, Thomas has very acceptable language skills. And he
>>> knows his claims about rivets and a losing lottery ticket, for
>>> example, are false.
>>
>> I disagree, he seems to have gotten some of his ideas simply because of
>> his bad understanding of English.
>>
>
> I've found his language skills acceptable. He would benefit from
> more study. But then, so would I :)


Well, I have no real talent for learning foreign languages. I can speak
English quite well, but it took me very long time to learn.

I can speak some Czech, French and Spanish, but very little.

English is now in common use through traffic, computers, entertainment
or the internet. So I learned English.

I had also tried to learn Chinese or Russian. But as I have not much
talent for languages, this did not work.

I'm more a visual artist and can do things which involve pictures.

>>>>> So I have speculated, that 'K Wills' is actually a program, running at
>>>>> some secret NSA supercomputers.
>>>>
>>>> He and I have speculated you're a loon.
>>>
>>> And there is ample evidence to support our speculation. Thomas'
>>> speculation has as much evidence as his claim of a growing earth. That
>>> is, none.
>>
>> I'm surprised he's not a "Flat Earther".
>
> The level of valid evidence for either is equal.
>

I have spent years on the subject and can produce as much evidence as
you want.

But usually people say, that Earth cannot grow, because NASA says so.

My reply is, that space flight is a relatively modern human achievement,
while Earth changes occur over many millions of years.

So, what NASA can say or measure, that is not really related to how the
Earth had changed in the last few hundred million years.

Evidence can only come from fossils and from geological evidence and not
from space measurements.

E.g. we find fossilised fish high in mountains (like the Alps).
Question: how did the fossils get there?

Answer: Growing Earth.

The reason: with growth the levels of the oceans are falling, what
leaves former sea-floor behind, that is now land.

And former sea-mounts are now mountains on land (like the Alps). And
that is why we find fish fossils there.


TH

K Wills

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Nov 19, 2016, 4:38:30 AM11/19/16
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On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 07:30:34 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt...@web.de>
wrote:
At this point, I would be happy with ANY valid evidence. But
there is none, so you'll offer none.

>But usually people say, that Earth cannot grow, because NASA says so.
>

I suppose NASA would agree, but I find geologists more credible
in this matter. It does not come as a surprise that they are in
disagreement with you.

>My reply is, that space flight is a relatively modern human achievement,
>while Earth changes occur over many millions of years.
>
>So, what NASA can say or measure, that is not really related to how the
>Earth had changed in the last few hundred million years.
>
>Evidence can only come from fossils and from geological evidence and not
>from space measurements.
>
>E.g. we find fossilised fish high in mountains (like the Alps).
>Question: how did the fossils get there?
>
>Answer: Growing Earth.
>

No, from the plates being forced together and being pushed up.
This is not a secret.

>The reason: with growth the levels of the oceans are falling, what
>leaves former sea-floor behind, that is now land.
>
>And former sea-mounts are now mountains on land (like the Alps). And
>that is why we find fish fossils there.

The problem with that is that, as you already know, ocean levels
are rising.

http://ocean.nationalgeographic.com/ocean/critical-issues-sea-level-rise/

I can produce many more cites, if you wish.
What do you believe you gain from your dishonest promotion of
something you KNOW to be false? I really want to know what is at the
root of your motivation.

--
Shill #3.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3618/5747904676_1e202191d3_b.jpg
All hail the taco! http://www.taconati.org/

Shadow

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Nov 19, 2016, 7:19:03 AM11/19/16
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On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 07:30:34 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt...@web.de>
wrote:

You can find land animal fossils underwater, below sea level
which proves the Earth is shrinking. Since the sea covers a larger
surface of the Earth than land, it probably has a lot more fossils, so
it's probably shrinking very fast. So fast that the NASA instruments
become unreadable.
I've gotta get out of here before there's not enough room left
for double pizzas.
Thanks for the logic lesson. I'm sure Wang Pang agrees with
your theory, only he thinks it's magicians, not fossils who are to
blame. You can also find magicians under sea level. See Houdini.
[]'s

PS Houdini's death was caused by a McGill University student, J.
Gordon Whitehead, who delivered a surprise attack of multiple blows to
Houdini's abdomen.

The eyewitnesses, students named Jacques Price and Sam Smilovitz,
proffered accounts of the incident that generally corroborated one
another. Price describes Whitehead asking Houdini "if he believed in
the miracles of the Bible",.... He then delivered "some very
hammer-like blows below the belt".

Houdini died of the resulting peritonitis. One of the first
fatal terrorists attacks done by a religious fanatic on record.
I'm sort of glad someone promised to get rid of them. The
religious fanatics, I mean, not the magicians.

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 19, 2016, 9:57:00 AM11/19/16
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On 16/11/2016 10:18 AM, Diesel wrote:
>
> er... clusterfuck?

What's the meaning of "cluster-fuck" then? You meant "gang-rape"?

Did you do that in one of your secret missions, Master? :)

Shadow

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Nov 19, 2016, 10:27:05 AM11/19/16
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On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 22:57:00 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
<toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 16/11/2016 10:18 AM, Diesel wrote:
>>
>> er... clusterfuck?
>
>What's the meaning of "cluster-fuck" then?

Use a bloody dictionary, facetard

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=clusterfuck
[]'s

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 19, 2016, 11:04:46 AM11/19/16
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On 19/11/2016 11:26 PM, Shadow wrote:
>> What's the meaning of "cluster-fuck" then?
>
> Use a bloody dictionary, facetard
>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=clusterfuck

Stop pointing fingers to some remote website. Just tell us the answer
right here right now, Master. :)

BDK

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Nov 19, 2016, 1:19:03 PM11/19/16
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In article <o0pt5r$sb$1...@dont-email.me>, toylet...@gmail.com says...
Are you too lazy to click a link?

Here's the definition..

Military term for an operation in which multiple things have gone
wrong. Related to "SNAFU" (Situation Normal, All Fucked Up") and
"FUBAR" (Fucked Up Beyond All Repair).

In radio communication or polite conversation (i.e. with a very senior
officer with whom you have no prior experience) the term "clusterfuck"
will often be replaced by the NATO phonetic acronym "Charlie Foxtrot."
By the time the artillery came in the enemy was already on top of us. It
was a total clusterfuck.

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 20, 2016, 5:46:10 AM11/20/16
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On 20/11/2016 2:18 AM, BDK wrote:
>
> Military term for an operation in which multiple things have gone
> wrong. Related to "SNAFU" (Situation Normal, All Fucked Up") and
> "FUBAR" (Fucked Up Beyond All Repair).
>
> In radio communication or polite conversation (i.e. with a very senior
> officer with whom you have no prior experience) the term "clusterfuck"
> will often be replaced by the NATO phonetic acronym "Charlie Foxtrot."
> By the time the artillery came in the enemy was already on top of us. It
> was a total clusterfuck.

I would not use this word. It's more like a secret sign, a code. I would
not even allow it in Scrabbles.

BDK

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Nov 20, 2016, 11:20:48 AM11/20/16
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In article <o0ruse$q8v$3...@dont-email.me>, toylet...@gmail.com says...
Whatever.

Mr. Man-wai Chang

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Nov 20, 2016, 11:52:28 AM11/20/16
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On 21/11/2016 12:20 AM, BDK wrote:
>>
>> I would not use this word. It's more like a secret sign, a code. I would
>> not even allow it in Scrabbles.
>
> Whatever.
>

Do not spread others' secret signs like chain letters!

Did you notice that Facebook and WhatsApp is no different from chain
letters? :)
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