swop or swap
Ros Walker
Is there a regional variation in where swop/swap is used?
Ros
Pat Durkin
"Ros Walker" <rosw...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> What is the difference, if any?
> Is there a regional variation in where swop/swap is used?
Could you name a place (or places) where you saw these words used and
spelled? What meanings did you find in a dictionary?
From my own experience, without using a dictionary or any search engine,
"swop" is meaningless, while "swap" indicates a trade in kind--effort,
knowledge, commondity, time. I am a lifelong Midwest US user of
American English (AmE).
Perhaps you have heard differing pronunciations and are trying to spell
them? I am not aware of any US usage with varying pronunciations for
the same meaning, though there may be some regional differences, along
the line of "cot and caught".
Ray O'Hara
> Is there a regional variation in where swop/swap is used?
>
> Ros
>
>
swop? swap means to trade something.
Where I reside swop {swaup}{au as in auk or author} best approximates the
pronunciation.
Tony Cooper
wrote:
"Swop" *is* seen. Years ago when I saw a sign advertising a "Swop
Meet" I thought the sign painter was just illiterate. I've seen so
many instances since that I no longer find it remarkable. It'll
probably end up in some dictionary as a varient of "swap".
--
Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
Ray O'Hara
"Tony Cooper" <tony_co...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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I've never seen it, I think your first impression was correct.
Adrian Bailey
contrex
> "Tony Cooper" <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
"End up" as a "variant"? I say, old chap! Hold on a sec! We illiterate
Brits use it quite a lot, and not just the painters. Swop is fairly
common in the UK, although swap is more often seen. The (UK)
Hutchinson Encyclopaedia says "Swap or swop - this word can be spelled
either way."
"The Hindu" of India answered a reader's query thus
WHAT IS the difference between "swap" and "swop"?
(S. Janardhanan, Udumalpet)
As far as the meaning is concerned there is no difference. "Swap" is
much more common than "swop".
(India tends towards Brit usage)
Even Yank sources have it. That painter need not have been illiterate.
Roget's II, Third Edition 1995: swap also swop
The Columbia Guide to Standard American English 1993
swap, swop (n., v.)
Swap is the American spelling, with swop more common in British
English. Both verb and noun are Informal or Conversational; elsewhere,
and especially in Edited English, trade, exchange, or barter might be
better choices for either the verb or the noun.
Tony Cooper
wrote:
>On 23 Mar, 07:13, "Ray O'Hara" <r...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> "Tony Cooper" <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:gbm6031httd37iu49...@4ax.com...
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>> > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:28:55 -0500, "Ray O'Hara" <r...@comcast.net>
>> > wrote:
>> > "Swop" *is* seen. Years ago when I saw a sign advertising a "Swop
>> > Meet" I thought the sign painter was just illiterate. I've seen so
>> > many instances since that I no longer find it remarkable. It'll
>> > probably end up in some dictionary as a varient of "swap".
>>
>> I've never seen it, I think your first impression was correct.
>
>"End up" as a "variant"? I say, old chap! Hold on a sec! We illiterate
>Brits use it quite a lot, and not just the painters. Swop is fairly
>common in the UK, although swap is more often seen. The (UK)
>Hutchinson Encyclopaedia says "Swap or swop - this word can be spelled
>either way."
I have always been good at predicting trends.
John Dean
OED has "swap, swop" as a header but recommends the 'a' spelling. M-W
on-line says:
"Main Entry: swop
chiefly British variant of SWAP"
I'd use "swap" and my recollection is that it is the more common version
UK-side. The Guardian Style Guide is firm:
swap
not swop
--
John Dean
Oxford
Peter Duncanson
wrote:
>On 23 Mar, 07:13, "Ray O'Hara" <r...@comcast.net> wrote:
The entries in SOED, Chambers English Dictionary, and various desk
dictionaries produced in conjunction with the OUP have as the
headword "swap, swop" without comment.
The Chambers entry includes:
swap, swop
pr.p. swapping, swopping; pa.t. and pa.p. swapped, swopped,
swapt, swopt. n. and adj. swapping, swopping.
--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.english.usage)
Bill McCray
I don't recall having seen it anywhere before this thread, but I can
understand someone spelling it that way by sound:
bop, cop, hop, lop, mop, shop, stop, top, whop
cap, lap, map, nap, pap, tap
Bill
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Caol MacThòmais
> What is the difference, if any?
> Is there a regional variation in where swop/swap is used?
See all the other replies, but for what it is worth I use 'swop' rather
than 'swap'.
kt.
--
Man goes to the doc, with a strawberry growing out of his head.
Doc says 'I'll give you some cream to put on that.'
Pat Durkin
"Caol MacThòmais" <caol.ma...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 2007-03-22 23:04:31 +0000, "Ros Walker" <rosw...@btinternet.com>
> said:
>
>> What is the difference, if any?
>> Is there a regional variation in where swop/swap is used?
>
> See all the other replies,
because--
> but for what it is worth I use 'swop' rather than 'swap'.
--that information doesn't tell us shit.
contrex
> "Caol MacThòmais" <caol.macthom...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I reckon he's saying they use "swop" in the Old Sod.
Caol MacThòmais
It is a counter point to all the replies saying 'swop' is not a real
word, an example of a real person who uses it.
Are you usually so rude, or have I recieved special treatment?
kt.
--
'Doc, I've got a cricket ball stuck up my arse'
'How's that?'
'Don't you start.'
Caol MacThòmais
The telly programme was 'Multicolour Swap Shop' though.
--
So I went in to a pet shop. I said, "Can I buy a goldfish?"
The guy said, "Do you want an aquarium?"
I said, "I don't care what star sign it is.
