"bored" is pronounced the same as "board" ? -- cord, cored

Hen Hanna

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Jun 30, 2016, 7:23:26 PM6/30/16

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-- cord, cored

-- sword, soared <-- I pronounce them differently in my head.

http://forum.wordreference.com/threads/bored-board-pronunciation.2890339/

Hello. I'm just wondering, do you pronounce "bored" the exact same way as "board"? In all the dictionaries where I've looked up these words, the pronunciation for both of these words is transcribed as /bɔːd/ in British English and /bɔːrd/ in American English, so theoretically there shouldn't be a difference. But then I found this video <<a link was here>> and I'm confused. What's your opinion? Thank you.

Dan S. MacAbre

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Jul 1, 2016, 5:00:46 AM7/1/16

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I tend to say the word "board" a little 'harder', with a bit more
tightness in the throat. For "sword", I find that my mouth is becoming
smaller and rounder. I have no idea how this is expressed in the
phonetic representations, especially since it might only be me that does
this.

Bill McCray

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Jul 1, 2016, 9:24:54 AM7/1/16

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I think my "board" and "bored" are identical, as are "sword" and
"soared". But, it appears that I don't pronounce "cord" and "cored"
alike. They are close, but the vowel in "cord" is slightly less of an
"o" than in "cored". I know little of linguistics, so I'm not sure how
to describe the difference. It feels like my tongue is a bit farther
back for "cord" than "cored".

Bill in Kentucky

Dan S. MacAbre

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Jul 1, 2016, 9:31:34 AM7/1/16

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Here in the UK, I think most people would have the "o" in "cord" sound
like the one in "dog" and "north" (not like "lord"), and that in "core"
and "cored" sound like "oo" in "poor".

Glenn Knickerbocker

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Jul 1, 2016, 11:37:27 AM7/1/16

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On 6/30/2016 7:23 PM, Hen Hanna wrote:
> -- cord, cored
> -- sword, soared <-- I pronounce them differently in my head.

I use the same O vowel in all of them, but the verbs might either be
longer in duration or have more intense R.

"Sword" is an odd one because I tend to give it a slight hint of
pronouncing the W--but more like a very short schwa than a W, nothing at
all like "sward."

¬R

Hen Hanna

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Jul 1, 2016, 2:34:45 PM7/1/16

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hoard & horde are the same (pronunciation-wise)
but "whored" must be different !

There has to be a paper on this already.
This is pretty close :

[PDF]Incomplete neutralization and other sub-phonemic ...
www.u.arizona.edu/~nwarner/publications/WarnerJongmanetal.pdf
by N Warner - ‎Cited by 177 - ‎Related articles
language, would be expected to be homophones. In this paper .... discusses evidence for incomplete neutralization of English flapped /t/ and /d/. 1.1. Goals of ...

[PDF]Acoustic differences in morphologically-distinct homophones In online ...
people.umass.edu/.../seyfarth_garellek_malouf_a...
University of Massachusetts Amherst
..... three prior studies in English required speakers to read homophone pairs ... We selected 40 English ...

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Dan S. MacAbre

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Jul 1, 2016, 4:07:58 PM7/1/16

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Hen Hanna wrote:
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>> -- cord, cored
>>
>> -- sword, soared <-- I pronounce them differently in my head.
>>
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>> http://forum.wordreference.com/threads/bored-board-pronunciation.2890339/
>>
>> Hello. I'm just wondering, do you pronounce "bored" the exact same way as "board"? In all the dictionaries where I've looked up these words, the pronunciation for both of these words is transcribed as /bɔːd/ in British English and /bɔːrd/ in American English, so theoretically there shouldn't be a difference. But then I found this video <<a link was here>> and I'm confused. What's your opinion? Thank you.
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> hoard & horde are the same (pronunciation-wise)
> but "whored" must be different !
>

I'd suggest that the "wh" sound is meant to be a combination of the two
letters. Like "when", which actually sounds more like "hwen".

Ding Bat

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Jul 6, 2016, 5:03:17 AM7/6/16

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Indeed? Then how do most people say 'cod'?

> and "north" (not like "lord"), and that in "core"
> and "cored" sound like "oo" in "poor".

As I understand, those who don't pronounce "poor" like "pore" use [U@] and the rest use [O:].

Ding Bat

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Jul 6, 2016, 5:04:48 AM7/6/16

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Perhaps your <sw> is rendered like a pharygealized [s~] in Arabic?
> ¬R

Dan S. MacAbre

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Jul 6, 2016, 5:55:06 AM7/6/16

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Sorry - I didn't mean to say that 'cord' sounds like 'cod'. The only
rhyme I can think of right now would be 'flawed'.

>> and "north" (not like "lord"), and that in "core"
>> and "cored" sound like "oo" in "poor".
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> As I understand, those who don't pronounce "poor" like "pore" use [U@] and the rest use [O:].
>

For me, 'poor' and 'pore' sound the same. But further north from me,
'poor' would sound like 'poo-er'. As always, it's tricky :-)