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Roger Standing

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Nov 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/5/99
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Why is 'Southampton' usually pronounced 'South Hampton'?

Matti Lamprhey

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Roger Standing <rog...@bluewin.ch> wrote in message
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> Why is 'Southampton' usually pronounced 'South Hampton'?

Hi Roger. Actually it's *always* pronounced South Hampton. Similarly
Northampton is always pronounced North Hampton. And Easthampton follows this
surprising pattern. Westhampton is up for grabs, however.

Contrast this with Binghamton in NY State, USA, which is pronounced Bingham
Tun. This is because it's named after a chappie called Bingham, not because
the 'p' has been taken.

How would you like to pronounce Southampton, and why?

Matti

Roger Standing

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I find it hard to pronounce two aitches when I can only see one.

How about Sout Hampton?

Roger


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Opinicus

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Roger Standing <rog...@bluewin.ch> wrote in message news:7vu1s4$mme$1...@bw107zhb.bluewin.ch...
> Why is 'Southampton' usually pronounced 'South Hampton'?
Probably for the same reason that "Worcester" is pronounced /wooster/: Because it is.

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Roger Standing

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Worcester is only eccentric English, playing around wth aitches is not.

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R. A. Heindl

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Nov 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/6/99
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On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:39:49 +0200, "Opinicus" <gez...@spamcop.net>
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>Roger Standing <rog...@bluewin.ch> wrote in message news:7vu1s4$mme$1...@bw107zhb.bluewin.ch...
>> Why is 'Southampton' usually pronounced 'South Hampton'?
>Probably for the same reason that "Worcester" is pronounced /wooster/: Because it is.

Was it ever written as "South Hampton"? That might explain the
difference between pronunciation and spelling. Maybe a printer was
running low on H's one day, and decided to shorten the name.

--Ray Heindl

Graham Howe

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R. A. Heindl <rhe...@stratos.net> wrote in message
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My cousins, who live in Southampton (in Hampshire, UK), *never* pronounce
the second 'h', and always say 'South-aampton'; mind you, they rarely
pronounce their aitches in any position.

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Graham


D. Spencer Hines

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Nov 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/8/99
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Not true.

Actually, the posh accent is preferred.

"Cut Glass" and Other Posh Dialects? [OPD]

Estuary Eschewed.
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D. Spencer Hines

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

"I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study
mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study mathematics and
philosophy, geography, natural history, naval architecture, navigation,
commerce, and agriculture, in order to give their children a right to
study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and
porcelain." John Adams, (1735-1826) Second President of the United
States. Letter to Abigail Adams, his wife, 12 May 1780.

JUST AN H <jus...@aol.com> wrote in message
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| >My cousins, who live in Southampton (in Hampshire, UK), *never*
pronounce
| >the second 'h', and always say 'South-aampton'; mind you, they rarely
| >pronounce their aitches in any position.
| >
| >
|

| In that case, they're in good company. A lot of Americans absolutely
worship
| any English accent .... no matter 'ow low.
|
| J.

JUST AN H

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Nov 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/9/99
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Robert Lieblich

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Nov 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/9/99
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D. Spencer Hines wrote:

[usual DSH-induced re-formatting:]

> JUST AN H <jus...@aol.com> wrote

> | A lot of Americans absolutely worship


> | any English accent .... no matter 'ow low.
> |

> Not true.
>
> Actually, the posh accent is preferred.
>
> "Cut Glass" and Other Posh Dialects? [OPD]
>
> Estuary Eschewed.

Once again, Spence-O, you seem not to have read what you're responding
to. The man is describing a fact of life in the US, where many people
are suckers for any British accent, even Cockney. He is not discussing
what you like, nor is he discussing how the British view things. *You*
may know one British accent from another and have your preferences, but
that doesn't make what H said wrong. My experience suggests that he's
right.

As but one example confirming what J said, my wife has a client, a
photographer, who has some strange Midlands accent but insists that his
customers (Americans all) admire it and even seek on occasion to imitate
it. He is thought of as a snooty, high-tone gentleman in the US even
though he comes from a blue-collar family and sounds like it.

When commenting on matters of fact, try to respond with facts. No one
who knows your reputation cares about your opinions to begin with, and
they're even more pointless than usual in a thread like this one.

Rob L.

Roger Standing

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D. Spencer Hines <D._Spence...@aya.yale.edu> wrote in message
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> Not true.
>
> Actually, the posh accent is preferred.
>
> "Cut Glass" and Other Posh Dialects? [OPD]
>
> Estuary Eschewed.

> D. Spencer Hines

They are enough to turn the milk

Roger
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