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lcy

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Dec 29, 2010, 10:50:35 PM12/29/10
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Dear all,
On a cold day, I would like to remind my friends to put on more
clothes. Should I say " Please dress warm" or" Please dress
warmly" ? Thank you very much!

Eric Walker

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Dec 30, 2010, 6:08:41 AM12/30/10
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:50:35 -0800, lcy wrote:

> On a cold day, I would like to remind my friends to put on more
> clothes. Should I say " Please dress warm" or" Please dress warmly" ?

The choice depends on whether or not one feels the verb as copulative.
If not--if one takes it that the modifier is describing the manner of
dressing--then "warmly" is wanted. If so--if one feels that the verb is
connecting the subject (an implied "you") with an adjective describing
how that person is to be clad, then "warm" is wanted.

One of the little-perceived tidal changes in English over the past
several decades has been a shift toward sensing more and more verbs as
copulative (also called "linking"), verbs that do not actually predicate
but serve to connect the subject with a predicate adjective. That is
probably A Good Thing, in that adjectives are stronger and livelier than
adverbs, and nouns are nice, concrete concepts.

In many cases, the choice is more or less indifferent: "he saved the ship
single-handedly" and "he saved the ship single-handed" are essentially
identical in both denotation and connotation--still, even there, the
extra syllable -ly makes the thing less felicitous than the simpler and
somewhat more forceful adjectival form.

Mostly it's a matter of common sense: what does the warmth apply to: the
act of dressing, or the end result of it? "Dress warmly" implies some
curious heat in the act, which is silly.

Mind, a great many people, acting as by blind instinct, fill in adverbs
after pretty much any verb, despite numerous unexceptionable examples to
the contrary--the iceberg loomed *large* on the horizon, he seems
*honest*, it smells *delicious*, and so on.

--
Cordially,
Eric Walker

Nick from England

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Dec 30, 2010, 7:14:26 AM12/30/10
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warmly! :-)

warm would be more American! :-D

Nick from England

Ian Jackson

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Dec 30, 2010, 7:15:00 AM12/30/10
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In message <ifhp7o$jin$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, Eric Walker
<em...@owlcroft.com> writes

>On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:50:35 -0800, lcy wrote:
>
>> On a cold day, I would like to remind my friends to put on more
>> clothes. Should I say " Please dress warm" or" Please dress warmly" ?
>
>The choice depends on whether or not one feels the verb as copulative.
>If not--if one takes it that the modifier is describing the manner of
>dressing--then "warmly" is wanted. If so--if one feels that the verb is
>connecting the subject (an implied "you") with an adjective describing
>how that person is to be clad, then "warm" is wanted.
>
As "Please dress warm" can be considered as being short for " Please
dress to be warm" or " Please dress so that you are warm", the adjective
"warm" is appropriate.
>
>
>
>
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Ian

CDB

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Dec 30, 2010, 7:41:26 AM12/30/10
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I agree with Eric's comments. However, if you say "dress warm", some
people will think you are speaking incorrectly. "Dress warmly" is the
customary form; if you use that, at worst some people may think you
are a little old-fashioned.


Steve Hayes

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Dec 30, 2010, 9:06:56 AM12/30/10
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Sometimes, when inviting people to a party, we would say "Dress happy". But if
we said "Dress happily" it would mean something quite different.;

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Eric Walker

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Dec 31, 2010, 12:19:02 AM12/31/10
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 04:14:26 -0800, Nick from England wrote:

> warmly!

>
>warm would be more American! :-D

How, I wonder, does one dress warmly? Do gymnastics while donning the
clothes? Have a very large fire in the room's fireplace? Be quite angry
at the time? Inquiring minds want to know . . . .

--
Cordially,
Eric Walker

Nick

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Dec 31, 2010, 4:07:59 AM12/31/10
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<g> It certainly doesn;t bear close inspection, Eric, but it's an
accepted form! :-)

Nick from England

CDB

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Dec 31, 2010, 7:38:15 AM12/31/10
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Steve Hayes wrote:
> "CDB" <belle...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> lcy wrote:
>>>>
>>> On a cold day, I would like to remind my friends to put on more
>>> clothes. Should I say " Please dress warm" or" Please dress
>>> warmly" ? Thank you very much!
>>>>
>> I agree with Eric's comments. However, if you say "dress warm",
>> some people will think you are speaking incorrectly. "Dress
>> warmly" is the customary form; if you use that, at worst some
>> people may think you are a little old-fashioned.
>
> Sometimes, when inviting people to a party, we would say "Dress
> happy". But if we said "Dress happily" it would mean something
> quite different.;
>>
Don't we know archaic barrel? Hogmanay, you all!
>>
<http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/458/what-are-the-lyrics-to-walt-kellys-classic-carol-deck-us-all-with-boston-charlie>


Eric Walker

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Dec 31, 2010, 7:40:20 AM12/31/10
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As Nero Wolfe once famously said about "contact" as a verb, "Not under
this roof."


--
Cordially,
Eric Walker

Leslie Danks

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Dec 31, 2010, 8:00:12 AM12/31/10
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Eric Walker wrote:

Do you feel the same about "He was warmly dressed" vs. "He was warm
dressed"?

--
Les
(BrE)

Nick from England

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Dec 31, 2010, 10:32:57 AM12/31/10
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<g> Fair enough!.:-)

Happy New Year

Nick from England dressing warmly! :-D

Eric Walker

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Dec 31, 2010, 4:36:08 PM12/31/10
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 14:00:12 +0100, Leslie Danks wrote:

> Eric Walker wrote:

[...]

>> How, I wonder, does one dress warmly? Do gymnastics while donning the
>> clothes? Have a very large fire in the room's fireplace? Be quite
>> angry at the time? Inquiring minds want to know . . . .
>>
> Do you feel the same about "He was warmly dressed" vs. "He was warm
> dressed"?

Those are not parallel to the original. In "warmly dressed", the
"dressed" is a participle, and the "warmly" is thus an adverb because it
is modifying an adjective. In "dress warmly", the "warmly" purports to
be an adverb modifying the verb "dress" (whereas--correctly rendered as
"warm"--it is really an adjective describing the subject of the verb,
which is merely copulative).

Part of this confusion arises from the status of the class "adverb" as
what one grammarian called "the dustbin of grammar", into which anything
that isn't one of the other seven "parts of speech" gets tossed. In that
dustbin are to be found "true adverbs", those that modulate the sense of
a verb; so-called "sentence adverbs" (a dreadful name--clausal adverb or,
better yet, adclausal, would be more appropriate), which modulate the
sense of an entire clause; fine-tuning adverbs, which modulate the sense
of an adjective; and we might even distinguish sub-classes of that last,
as with tuners that modulate already tuned expressions (as with "very" in
"a very brightly shining light").

--
Cordially,
Eric Walker

mm

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Jan 2, 2011, 7:39:46 PM1/2/11
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:50:35 -0800 (PST), lcy <lcyi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

What are you, their mother?

Either.

I think you violated the rules of my .sig.

--
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they are asking questions. I have lived in
Western Pa. 10 years
Indianapolis 7 years
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Brooklyn, NY 12 years
Baltimore 27 years

Bill McCray

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Jan 4, 2011, 9:07:58 PM1/4/11
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 16:06:56 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 07:41:26 -0500, "CDB" <belle...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>>lcy wrote:
>>>>
>>> On a cold day, I would like to remind my friends to put on more
>>> clothes. Should I say " Please dress warm" or" Please dress
>>> warmly" ? Thank you very much!
>>>>
>>I agree with Eric's comments. However, if you say "dress warm", some
>>people will think you are speaking incorrectly. "Dress warmly" is the
>>customary form; if you use that, at worst some people may think you
>>are a little old-fashioned.
>
> Sometimes, when inviting people to a party, we would say "Dress happy".

Happy can dress himself. Dopey may need some help.

Bill in Kentucky

Nick from England

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Jan 5, 2011, 5:07:15 AM1/5/11
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On Jan 5, 2:07 am, Bill McCray <billmcc...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 16:06:56 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 07:41:26 -0500, "CDB" <bellema...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >>lcy wrote:
>
> >>> On a cold day, I would like to remind my friends to put on more
> >>> clothes.  Should I say " Please dress warm" or" Please dress
> >>> warmly" ?  Thank you very much!
>
> >>I agree with Eric's comments.  However, if you say "dress warm", some
> >>people will think you are speaking incorrectly.  "Dress warmly" is the
> >>customary form; if you use that, at worst some people may think you
> >>are a little old-fashioned.
>
> > Sometimes, when inviting people to a party, we would say "Dress happy".
>
> Happy can dress himself.  Dopey may need some help.
>

# Heigh Ho!

Why's that pronounced 'Hi Ho' and oi fort 'Heigh ho' meant
disappointment or boredom, 'but that's not important'!

Nick from England

Nick from England

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Jan 6, 2011, 3:07:58 AM1/6/11
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On Jan 5, 2:07 am, Bill McCray <billmcc...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 16:06:56 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 07:41:26 -0500, "CDB" <bellema...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >>lcy wrote:
>
> >>> On a cold day, I would like to remind my friends to put on more
> >>> clothes.  Should I say " Please dress warm" or" Please dress
> >>> warmly" ?  Thank you very much!
>
> >>I agree with Eric's comments.  However, if you say "dress warm", some
> >>people will think you are speaking incorrectly.  "Dress warmly" is the
> >>customary form; if you use that, at worst some people may think you
> >>are a little old-fashioned.
>
> > Sometimes, when inviting people to a party, we would say "Dress happy".
>
> Happy can dress himself.  Dopey may need some help.
>

The six dwarfs were in bed feeling Sleepy, so Sleepy got out!
<A joke I heard at school>

Nick from England, East of Kentucky, West of Java (I have no cloo
'bout that!)

Dr Peter Young

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Jan 6, 2011, 3:15:54 AM1/6/11
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On 6 Jan 2011 Nick from England <anda...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

[snip]

> The six dwarfs were in bed feeling Sleepy, so Sleepy got out!
> <A joke I heard at school>

Or also:

Snow White was sitting in the back of the car, feeling happy. Happy
got out, so she felt grumpy.

Peter.

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(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk

Nick from England

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Jan 6, 2011, 3:20:34 AM1/6/11
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On Jan 6, 8:15 am, Dr Peter Young <pnyo...@ormail.co.uk> wrote:

> On 6 Jan 2011  Nick from England <andar...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > The six dwarfs were in bed feeling Sleepy, so Sleepy got out!
> > <A joke I heard at school>
>
> Or also:
>
> Snow White was sitting in the back of the car, feeling happy. Happy
> got out, so she felt grumpy.
>

LOL - excellent, Peter!

Nick from England

Eric Walker

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Jan 6, 2011, 6:26:58 AM1/6/11
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On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 08:15:54 +0000, Dr Peter Young wrote:

> On 6 Jan 2011 Nick from England <anda...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> The six dwarfs were in bed feeling Sleepy, so Sleepy got out! <A joke I
>> heard at school>
>
> Or also:
>
> Snow White was sitting in the back of the car, feeling happy. Happy got
> out, so she felt grumpy.

At the holiday party, everyone was feeling Merry--so she left. Then they
all jumped for Joy.


--
Cordially,
Eric Walker

Nick from England

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Jan 6, 2011, 7:36:57 AM1/6/11
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On Jan 6, 11:26 am, Eric Walker <em...@owlcroft.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 08:15:54 +0000, Dr Peter Young wrote:
> > On 6 Jan 2011  Nick from England <andar...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> > [snip]
>
> >> The six dwarfs were in bed feeling Sleepy, so Sleepy got out! <A joke I
> >> heard at school>
>
> > Or also:
>
> > Snow White was sitting in the back of the car, feeling happy. Happy got
> > out, so she felt grumpy.
>
> At the holiday party, everyone was feeling Merry--so she left.  Then they
> all jumped for Joy.
>

<g> Oh Joy!

Nick from England

Hans Sauseng

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Dec 1, 2021, 8:02:04 AM12/1/21
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how does one do something "warmly"? -- with love and affection! I can feel that when someone hugs me warmly, but how do we feel that when we put on our clothes?
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