Eth and thorn.
Alasdair Baxter
a stroke above the circle but I haven't a clue about the "eth". What
does it look like and what was it used for?
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Ralph Jones
>
> I think I have this right. The thorn looks like a "p" in reverse with
> a stroke above the circle but I haven't a clue about the "eth". What
> does it look like and what was it used for?
> --
>
Check the following site:
http://www.ismennt.is/not/briem/text/1/11/111.thorn.and.eth.html
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Odysseus
>
> I think I have this right. The thorn looks like a "p" in reverse with
> a stroke above the circle but I haven't a clue about the "eth". What
> does it look like and what was it used for?
> --
>
the stem instead of at the top. The lower-case is like a "p" fused with
a "b" -- or either of these with a full-length stem from ascent to
descent. The sound of thorn is an unvoiced dental fricative, as in "THin".
The upper-case eth is a capital "D" with a short horizontal stroke
through the upright stem; the lower-case one is a small "d" with a
rearward-curving ascender (like a backwards "6") having a slash through
it. The sound is a voiced dental fricative, as in "THis". I believe this
character is used in Vietnamese (although for what sound I don't know --
the same?) as well as in old Germanic languages.
--Odysseus
JB
The eth and thorn characters appear in most Windows character sets (I
didn't check them all).
Ğ alt-0208
ğ alt-0240
Ş alt-0222
ş alt-0254
--JB
Odysseus
>
> The eth and thorn characters appear in most Windows character sets (I
> didn't check them all).
> Ğ alt-0208
> ğ alt-0240
> Ş alt-0222
> ş alt-0254
>
quotes and the fi and fl ligatures -- so they're evidently not part of
the 'common ASCII' supported by Usenet. These characters are all
accessed by the same part of the Mac keyboard: option- shift-3 through 6
respectively (option-#, -$, -%, -^). Eth and thorn characters are
included in most Mac fonts, but they're not accessible to the standard
keyboard encoding. Likewise for the fractions and the East-European
'crossed L'.
--Odysseus
John Dean
Odysseus <odysseu...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:3ACAEB11...@my-deja.com...
> JB wrote:
> >
> > The eth and thorn characters appear in most Windows character sets (I
> > didn't check them all).
> > Ğ alt-0208
> > ğ alt-0240
> > Ş alt-0222
> > ş alt-0254
> >
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JB
>
> JB wrote:
> >
> > The eth and thorn characters appear in most Windows character sets (I
> > didn't check them all).
> > Ğ alt-0208
> > ğ alt-0240
> > Ş alt-0222
> > ş alt-0254
> >
> True, but your samples were translated by my Mac into single continental
> quotes and the fi and fl ligatures -- so they're evidently not part of
> the 'common ASCII' supported by Usenet.
Only the first 128 ASCII symbols are standard in any system including
Usenet and Mac. These first 128 are standard in all English text
character sets including Unicode. What happens beyond 128 is Babel.
For a long time the "IBM character graphics extended character set"
was pretty standard, before the advent of graphics-capable computers.
Since the IBM graphics characters were no longer needed, every vendor
including Microsoft has produced variations in the 129-256 range.
Apple always had their own version of extended ASCII. This
nonuniformity is what is driving the Unicode effort.
--JB
Dr Robin Bignall
wrote:
>
>Odysseus <odysseu...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>news:3ACAEB11...@my-deja.com...
>> JB wrote:
>> >
>> > The eth and thorn characters appear in most Windows character sets (I
>> > didn't check them all).
>> > Ğ alt-0208
>> > ğ alt-0240
>> > Ş alt-0222
>> > ş alt-0254
>> >
>Weren't they in The Glums?
You're thinking of Ron and Eth.
"Oooooh, Ron!"
"Yes, Eth?"
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