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jpacka...@yahoo.com

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Dec 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/4/00
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Is it "You can't draw WATER from a stone."
or
Is it "You can't draw BLOOD from a stone."
?

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Jim
Boston, USA


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In article <90h9rf$rpg$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

<jpacka...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is it "You can't draw WATER from a stone."
> or
> Is it "You can't draw BLOOD from a stone."
> ?

Blood.


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Remember that Moses got in serious trouble while drawing water from a stone!

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meirm...@erols.com

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In alt.english.usage on Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:43:21 -0800 "Richard
Crowley" <rcro...@xprt.net> posted:

>Remember that Moses got in serious trouble while drawing water from a stone!

Only because he struck it instead of asking like instructed. But
you're right, that where he is getting the idea of blood from. JP
means water.


>
>"David" <da...@dacha.freeuk.com> wrote ...
>> <jpacka...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Is it "You can't draw WATER from a stone."
>> > or
>> > Is it "You can't draw BLOOD from a stone."
>> > ?
>> Blood.
>
>
>
>


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Padraig Breathnach

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David wrote in message <4a27db6...@dacha.freeuk.com>...
>In article <90h9rf$rpg$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

> <jpacka...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Is it "You can't draw WATER from a stone."
>> or
>> Is it "You can't draw BLOOD from a stone."
>> ?
>
>Blood.
>
'Cos it's thicker than water.

PB


Polar

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Dec 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM12/5/00
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On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 23:21:45 -0500, meirm...@erols.com wrote:

>In alt.english.usage on Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:43:21 -0800 "Richard
>Crowley" <rcro...@xprt.net> posted:
>
>>Remember that Moses got in serious trouble while drawing water from a stone!
>
>Only because he struck it instead of asking like instructed.

How chicken-shit could "God" get? After the years Moses
put into wrassling those intractable Israelites, not to mention
interceding with a cranky, capricious. and suspiciously
anthropopathic "God".

Jonathan Kirsch, in his recent entertaining "Moses: A Life",
compares the relationship of Moses and "God" to a sort
of Odd Couple, constantly squabbling and reconciling.

But
>you're right, that where he is getting the idea of blood from. JP
>means water.
>>
>>"David" <da...@dacha.freeuk.com> wrote ...

>>> <jpacka...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> > Is it "You can't draw WATER from a stone."
>>> > or
>>> > Is it "You can't draw BLOOD from a stone."
>>> > ?
>>> Blood.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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meirm...@erols.com

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Dec 6, 2000, 1:54:46 AM12/6/00
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In alt.english.usage on Tue, 05 Dec 2000 05:24:37 -0800 Polar
<sme...@mindspring.com> posted:

>On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 23:21:45 -0500, meirm...@erols.com wrote:
>
>>In alt.english.usage on Mon, 4 Dec 2000 17:43:21 -0800 "Richard
>>Crowley" <rcro...@xprt.net> posted:
>>
>>>Remember that Moses got in serious trouble while drawing water from a stone!
>>
>>Only because he struck it instead of asking like instructed.

I'm sorry. The Bible says that he was instructed to "speak to the
rock". For completeness, I'll mention that there was an earlier
occasion that he was instructed to hit a rock in order to get water.
Of course he didn't get into trouble that time.


>
>How chicken-shit could "God" get? After the years Moses

How vulgar and disrespectful can you get?

>put into wrassling those intractable Israelites, not to mention

>interceding ...

Moses was judged by a higher standard. You'll be judged by a lower
standard. If you're lucky, much lower.

For one thing, Moses knew God face to face, knew that God had been
with him when he faced down Pharoah, knew that God had kept his word
throughout and continued to at the Red Sea and at Sinai. That's why
the Lord says "Because you did not believe me to sanctify me in the
eyes of the people of Israel, therefore you shall not bring this
congregation into the land which I have given them." Because Moses
had every reason to believe him and didn't. So Moses was with the
Israelites until the end of the 40 years, but Joshua brought them into
the land.


>
>Jonathan Kirsch, in his recent entertaining "Moses: A Life",
>compares the relationship of Moses and "God" to a sort
>of Odd Couple, constantly squabbling and reconciling.
>

Apparently Mr. Kirsch is much more respectful than you are.

Roberta Davies

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Dec 12, 2000, 10:01:47 PM12/12/00
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jpacka...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Is it "You can't draw WATER from a stone."
> or
> Is it "You can't draw BLOOD from a stone."

I agree that it's blood, but I don't think "draw" is correct
here. You draw liquids from a well, not a stone.

I've always heard it as "you can't get blood from a stone". And
occasionally, and perhaps jokingly, as "you can't get blood from
a turnip". My German roots showing?

Robbie

The Walkers

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Dec 13, 2000, 12:57:58 AM12/13/00
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In article <3A36E69B...@virgin.net>,
roberta...@virgin.net wrote:

turnip:roots Oh, dear, dear me.

Anyway, I have often heard both pronouncements, over great extents of
space and time (and ethnicity).


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Arbub

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Dec 13, 2000, 2:03:17 PM12/13/00
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Roberta Davies wrote in message <3A36E69B...@virgin.net>...

>jpacka...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> Is it "You can't draw WATER from a stone."
>> or
>> Is it "You can't draw BLOOD from a stone."
>
>I agree that it's blood, but I don't think "draw" is correct
>here. You draw liquids from a well, not a stone.
>
>I've always heard it as "you can't get blood from a stone".

Or "you can't get blood out of a stone"

GT


JB

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Dec 13, 2000, 4:06:30 PM12/13/00
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You can't squeeze blood out of a stone. --JB

Mark Sproson

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Dec 14, 2000, 9:16:03 AM12/14/00
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Roberta Davies <roberta...@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:3A36E69B...@virgin.net...

Yes, but one can also 'draw blood' if one cuts deep enough. And draw a
sword from a stone, if one is the rightful king of England. I think there
are fair few metaphors being mixed here! (Oh, and of course, you can draw a
horse to water but a pencil must be lead...)

Nevertheless, I would vote for "get blood from a stone".

Mark


Roberta Davies

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Dec 20, 2000, 8:10:04 PM12/20/00
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The Walkers wrote:
> >
> > I've always heard it as "you can't get blood from a stone". And
> > occasionally, and perhaps jokingly, as "you can't get blood from
> > a turnip". My German roots showing?
>
> turnip:roots Oh, dear, dear me.

Gargh. I never noticed the pun... That's what comes of writing
this stuff in the wee small hours, when I should be curled up
with a good book.

Robbie

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