the great forests leveled
Lazypierrot
of the phrase *** the great forests leveled*** in the following
passage.
a) the great forests had to be cut
b) the great forests being leveled
On their arrival in the New World, the trees had to be cut, ***the
great forests leveled***, in order to make civilized land out of the
wildness; to clear the land for planting crops; to build cabins; to
get fuel for warmth and cooking; and to make fence for protection.
I would really appreciate your kindness.
LP
John Varela
This sentence means that the trees were not only cut down, but the
stumps removed and the land prepared for settlement. "Leveled"
means that, where there had been forest, the colonists created open,
level ground.
<crossposted to AUE>
Further to that, we've noticed the place name "Level" in Southside
Virginia. It first came to attention in the name of a country
Baptist church, "Saint Level". That made no sense. A detailed map
of Virginia reveals no place named Saint Level, but a quick scan of
the index turns up Peckerwood Level (!), two places called Oak
Level, and two places called Sandy Level.
What's that about? (Chuck, are you there?)
--
John Varela
Trade NEWlamps for OLDlamps for email
Peter Duncanson (BrE)
>
>Further to that, we've noticed the place name "Level" in Southside
>Virginia. It first came to attention in the name of a country
>Baptist church, "Saint Level". That made no sense. A detailed map
>of Virginia reveals no place named Saint Level, but a quick scan of
>the index turns up Peckerwood Level (!), two places called Oak
>Level, and two places called Sandy Level.
>
>What's that about? (Chuck, are you there?)
>
This might be the sort of level described in OED:
6. A level tract of land; a stretch of country approximately
horizontal and unbroken by elevations: applied spec. (as a proper
name) to certain large expanses of level country, e.g. Bedford Level
or the Great Level in the fen district of England; The Levels
(formerly The Level), the tract including Hatfield Chase in
Yorkshire.
Is Level the name of a saint? Does Level mean a stretch of country
perhaps named after someone with the name Saint? Or perhaps Saint is a
corruption of some local native name.
Divine inspiration would be useful.
--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.english.usage)
Lazypierrot
word level. It is really a surprise that there is even a place named
'Level.' BTW, I wonder what the structure of the phrase ***the great
forests leveled*** is, which follows the sentence ***the trees had to
be cut***. Would it be correct to say that the phrase ***the great
forests leveled*** leaves out the words ***had to be *** , which is
used in the sentence ***the trees had to be cut***?
On their arrival in the New World, the trees had to be cut, ***( and )
the great forests ( had to be ) leveled***, in order to make civilized
land out of the wildness; to clear the land for planting crops; to
build cabins; to get fuel for warmth and cooking; and to make fence
for protection.
I desperately need your help.
LP
John Varela
There are more things growing in a forest than trees. Cutting down
trees does not include removing the stumps and leveling the ground.
And yes, "the great forests leveled" should be understood as "the
great forests [had to be] leveled".
Lazypierrot
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:32:20 UTC, Lazypierrot
>
Thanks a lot for your brilliant explanation, John! Obviously, there
are many other things to be done to 'level' the ground than just
cutting the trees, so that the forests had to be leveled after the
trees had been cut.
LP
mm
wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:08:49 UTC, Lazypierrot
><lazyp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello! I would like you to tell me which is correct as a paraphrase
>> of the phrase *** the great forests leveled*** in the following
>> passage.
>>
>> a) the great forests had to be cut
>> b) the great forests being leveled
>>
>> On their arrival in the New World, the trees had to be cut, ***the
>> great forests leveled***, in order to make civilized land out of the
>> wildness; to clear the land for planting crops; to build cabins; to
>> get fuel for warmth and cooking; and to make fence for protection.
>
>This sentence means that the trees were not only cut down, but the
>stumps removed and the land prepared for settlement. "Leveled"
>means that, where there had been forest, the colonists created open,
>level ground.
>
><crossposted to AUE>
>
>Further to that, we've noticed the place name "Level" in Southside
>Virginia. It first came to attention in the name of a country
>Baptist church, "Saint Level". That made no sense.
In Indianapolis, on Meridian Street at about 64th, was a sign, maybe
with an arrow, that said, "Lutheran Church / Pleasant View", and all I
could think was, Wow, these Lutherans go to church so they stare out
the window at the view!
Eventually I drove by and it was called "Pleasant View Lutheran
Church", but I didn't get that from the sign at all.
The sign is not there anymore.
> A detailed map
>of Virginia reveals no place named Saint Level, but a quick scan of
>the index turns up Peckerwood Level (!), two places called Oak
>Level, and two places called Sandy Level.
>
>What's that about? (Chuck, are you there?)
--
Posters should say where they live, and for which area
they are asking questions. I was born and then lived in
Western Pa. 10 years
Indianapolis 7 years
Chicago 6 years
Brooklyn, NY 12 years
Baltimore 26 years
Ray O'Hara
"John Varela" <OLDl...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Peckerwood? Im sure there is a colorful story to go with that name.
Ray O'Hara
Well were leveled, whether they "had to be" is a value judgement the
Indians probably don't share.
Odysseus
<fcb15f1c-a722-4483...@v15g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
Lazypierrot <lazyp...@gmail.com> wrote:
I would say:
c) the great forests had to be level(l)ed,
because the most natural assumption is that it's in parallel with the
preceding clause, indicating that the same verb that appears there
should be supplied.
--
Odysseus
Fred
"Odysseus" <odysseu...@yahoo-dot.ca> wrote in message
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The trees would have been felled, and the ground cleared.