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Alan OBrien

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Apr 27, 2004, 5:52:08 PM4/27/04
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Why 'porage'?


John Dean

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Apr 27, 2004, 7:01:07 PM4/27/04
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Alan OBrien wrote:
> Why 'porage'?

Why not? It's one way of spelling it, albeit a little old-fashioned now. But
since the word derives from pottage, it's nearer to origin than porridge.
--
John Dean
Oxford


Raymond S. Wise

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Apr 27, 2004, 7:00:24 PM4/27/04
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"Alan OBrien" <alane...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Why 'porage'?


I know only as a result of googling that "Scott's Porage Oats" is the name
of a product. I would speculate that "Porage" is a deliberate misspelling,
like the American brand name "Tastee" bread, which is presumably done both
to protect the trademark and to make the name of the product memorable.

By the way, "porridge" is an alteration of "pottage," which ends in "-age"
also.


--
Raymond S. Wise
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA

E-mail: mplsray @ yahoo . com


Martin Ambuhl

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Apr 27, 2004, 7:51:53 PM4/27/04
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Alan OBrien wrote:
> Why 'porage'?

What is your question? Are you concerned that someone can't spell
porridge? There is no way to tell what you have in mind.

If it is the spelling that concerns you, note the forms the OED lists:

porage
porradge
porredge
porridge
porrage
parridge
parritch

And, sense this word is an altered form of pottage, poddish, those
should be considered also.
Here are some "porage" citations from OED.

c1532 G. Du Wes Introd. Fr. in Palsgr. 1070 Ye have alredy eaten your
porage.
1550 Lever Serm. (Arb.) 122 Hauyng a fewe porage made of the brothe
of the same byefe, wyth salte and otemell.
1573 Tindale's Obed. Chr. Man Wks. 166 If the porage [1528 podech]
be burned .. or the meate ouer rosted, we say The bishop hath
put his foote in the potte.

M.C.

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Apr 27, 2004, 9:16:16 PM4/27/04
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In article <GLKdncMvFvv...@gbronline.com>,

"Raymond S. Wise" <mplsra...@gbronline.com> wrote:

> I know only as a result of googling that "Scott's Porage Oats" is the name
> of a product. I would speculate that "Porage" is a deliberate misspelling,

Actually it's the "Oats" that's the misspelling. The product is made
from the desiccated remains of Oates, who sacrificed his life in the
Antarctic so Scott and his party would have something to eat.

bill ramsay

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Apr 28, 2004, 3:05:26 AM4/28/04
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 19:51:53 -0400, Martin Ambuhl
<mam...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Alan OBrien wrote:
>> Why 'porage'?
>
>What is your question? Are you concerned that someone can't spell
>porridge? There is no way to tell what you have in mind.
>
>If it is the spelling that concerns you, note the forms the OED lists:
>
>porage
>porradge
>porredge
>porridge
>porrage
>parridge
>parritch
>

I noticed 'parritch' with interest, as a Scotsman, I was exposed to
many queer sayings when I was young.

One of them was, 'back tae auld claes and parritch'. ie. 'back to
old clothes and porridge'. This is a reference to falling on to hard
times.

I didn't know that 'parritch' was an actual word, I always thought
that i was just a different way of pronouncing porridge, I know that
sounds silly, but i was very young at the time. Until now it never
really crossed my mind.

yours aye

bill ramsay
now resident in New Zealand, one of the most beautiful places on
Earth.

Django Cat

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Apr 28, 2004, 3:43:05 AM4/28/04
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 22:52:08 +0100, Alan OBrien
<alane...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Why 'porage'?
>
>

"Scotts is the Highland Porage
Scotts is the Lowland Porage
Scotts is the Highland Porage
Scotts Porage Oats".


DMcC

bill ramsay

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Apr 28, 2004, 8:06:26 AM4/28/04
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Is the above a jingle from an advert?

As a Scotsman who likes his oats [don't you love those double
entendres?], until now I have never seen 'porridge' spelt 'porage',
are you absolutely sure that this is a real spelling?

bill ramsay

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Apr 28, 2004, 8:10:02 AM4/28/04
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I take it all back, mea culpa, there is such a spelling, drat.

The word 'porage' could'nt be found in www.dictionary.com. however
when i googled i came across this

http://www.greenwichgrocer.com/scotporoat1.html

it's even the same label on the stuff i used to have when i was v.
small and living in the borders. except that it had the proper
spelling of course.

kind regards

bill ramsay
>

Django Cat

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Apr 28, 2004, 11:08:00 AM4/28/04
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:06:26 +1200, bill ramsay <bill....@clear.net.nz>
wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 08:43:05 +0100, Django Cat


> <nos...@ireallymeanit.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 22:52:08 +0100, Alan OBrien
>> <alane...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Why 'porage'?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> "Scotts is the Highland Porage
>> Scotts is the Lowland Porage
>> Scotts is the Highland Porage
>> Scotts Porage Oats".
>>
>>
>> DMcC
>
>
> Is the above a jingle from an advert?
>

Well, anybody who grew up watching British TV in the 60s will know these
to be the true lyrics of 'Scotland the Brave'. It's a lot like not being
able to hear the William Tell Overture without thinking of The Lone Ranger.

DC

Professor Redwine

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Apr 28, 2004, 11:09:53 AM4/28/04
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:05:26 +1200, spake bill ramsay thus:

> bill ramsay
> now resident in New Zealand, one of the most beautiful places on
> Earth.

My dear friend Katie, a citizen of said land, insists that New Zealand is
in fact _both_ of the most beautiful places on Earth!

--
Redwine
Hamburg

M.C.

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Apr 28, 2004, 4:55:30 PM4/28/04
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In article <ailu80hdrek91v8o7...@4ax.com>,
bill ramsay <bill....@clear.net.nz> wrote:

> I noticed 'parritch' with interest, as a Scotsman, I was exposed to
> many queer sayings when I was young.
>

Well it's no' surprisin. Many a Scottish lad cannae tell the difference
between Peat and Heather!

Daniel James

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Apr 29, 2004, 5:30:37 AM4/29/04
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In article news:<opr659nm...@news.freenetname.com>, Django Cat
wrote:

> It's a lot like not being able to hear the William Tell Overture
> without thinking of The Lone Ranger.

What has the Lone Ranger got to do with anything, kemo sabe?

The William Tell overture always reminds me of ... William Tell, who
used to adorn our (British) TV screen regularly with his
apple-splitting escapades in the early 1960s.

I think it must have been this one:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0158441/

Cheers,
Daniel.

Django Cat

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Apr 30, 2004, 3:48:29 PM4/30/04
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Ah yes, I remember it well... but the Lone Ranger also used the WTO.


High ho silver, awaaaaaaaay.
DC

M.C.

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Apr 30, 2004, 4:44:30 PM4/30/04
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In article <opr7aby3...@news.freenetname.com>,
Django Cat <nos...@ireallymeanit.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:30:37 +0100, Daniel James
> <waste...@nospam.aaisp.org> wrote:
>
> > In article news:<opr659nm...@news.freenetname.com>, Django Cat
> > wrote:
> >> It's a lot like not being able to hear the William Tell Overture
> >> without thinking of The Lone Ranger.
> >
> > What has the Lone Ranger got to do with anything, kemo sabe?
> >
> > The William Tell overture always reminds me of ... William Tell, who
> > used to adorn our (British) TV screen regularly with his
> > apple-splitting escapades in the early 1960s.
> >
> > I think it must have been this one:
> > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0158441/
> >

I love this credit found at that URL:

Non-Original Music by

Gioacchino Rossini

(from "William Tell overture")


Poor old Gioacchino, being told he's "non-original."
 

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