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Salmon Egg

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Mar 4, 2007, 4:04:00 PM3/4/07
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On 3/4/07 12:39 PM, in article 4bbmu25pfboaoo9q8...@4ax.com,
"Terry" <Kilo...@charter.net> wrote:

> I was watching Myth Busters. They raised a coil of wire to some high
> voltage transmission lines.
>
> It looked to me like they had the turns parallel to the power line.
> They were not able to have much success.
>
> Shouldn't the coil be perpendicular to the line?
>
> Would this work?
>
> Anyone see the show?
>
At first, I thought the post was a kook post. Now I realize that your fraud
receiver realized there was something wrong.

It is not clear what you mean by "turns parallel to the power line."
Capacitive coupling to the power line would not be able to transfer much
power. Even at high voltage, no much current would flow. 100pF and 200kV
would allow 7.5maAC. Thus, it would require an energy thief to use magnetic
coupling.

Current flowing around a conductor will have circular magnetic field with
the circles in planes perpendicular to the conductor. Thus, to couple, the
AXIS of a cylindrical solenoid should be perpendicular to the conductor in
order to maximize transformer coupling. Again, you will not get much
transformer coupling without an iron core to concentrate flux through the
solenoid.

Bill
-- Fermez le Bush--about two years to go.


za...@wp.pl

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Mar 4, 2007, 4:58:07 PM3/4/07
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TimPerry

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Mar 4, 2007, 11:15:54 PM3/4/07
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"Terry" <Kilo...@charter.net> wrote in message
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>I was watching Myth Busters. They raised a coil of wire to some high
> voltage transmission lines.
>
> It looked to me like they had the turns parallel to the power line.
> They were not able to have much success.
>
> Shouldn't the coil be perpendicular to the line?
>
> Would this work?
>
> Anyone see the show?
>

in one sense all energy is free (or stolen).

we steal it from the ground or the sun or the wind or the rivers and spend
it as we wish.


look at the problem of trying to glean energy from a power line without a
direct connection. the amount of power that is used by the intended load
equals the amount of power into the system minus total losses. the bulk of
the losses are resistive and are converted to heat. that leaves only a tiny
amount of electromagnetic radiation to be "captured" in some manner.

look at it this way, if there was all that much energy to be had in this
manner it would be doing something obvious.... like picking up cars as they
drove under them or something.

Tim Gard

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Mar 5, 2007, 12:46:12 PM3/5/07
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I remember seeing a fella holding a fluorescent bulb under one of these
things and it was lit up. Fluorescent, low current high voltage makes sense
though. (Plus there was a film exposure issue here.) But, I was told by a
communications engineer that they used to lean fluorescent bulbs against the
wall in the local radio station transmitter room, and the power flux would
cause the damned things to light! Didn't see it, but I heard it.

I have seen scientific errors on Myth Busters before though. But, could you
imagine how much trouble these guys would be in if they showed the whole
country how to rip off the power companies? Gives lawyers goose bumps! In
another show, they attempted to hook up an Edison hydrogen generator to a
Buick to make it run. Edison never intended to make this thing run a Buick,
only improve its gas mileage. I lost my respect for those guys that day. The
dog gone thing (The Edison hydrogen generator. I got it from a windmill
guy!) cost me 30 bucks and added 3.8 MPG to my engine. Thats over 60 free
miles every tank full. At 3 bucks a gallon that was a huge increase. Or
maybe I could just buy a Honda ... Naaa.

Do I still use it? Naa. I am an American, money means nothing to me! I
drive a Buick fer' crying out loud! ~;>P

(I hope you Europeans, etal don't believe that!)

Tim Gard

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Tim Gard

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Mar 5, 2007, 12:52:23 PM3/5/07
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Magnetic fields do not cause load without something gathering it up and
using it. There are huge electrical fields around these wires. (Lamda
wavlength issues?) Thats why the power companies do not run these things in
cities close to buildings. Rebar maybe? Induced voltages can fry your
inards. Its why birds can not fly in front of large radar installations.

Tim Gard

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TimPerry

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Mar 5, 2007, 1:42:29 PM3/5/07
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Tim Gard wrote:
> Magnetic fields do not cause load without something gathering it up
> and using it.

once you figure out what a load is you might be able to use it in a sentence
that makes sense.


There are huge electrical fields around these wires.

define huge.

> (Lamda wavlength issues?) Thats why the power companies do not run
> these things in cities close to buildings.

er, no power lines in cities? i wonder how it is that my light come on.

Rebar maybe? Induced
> voltages can fry your inards.

voltage dosent do much of anything except push current.

Its why birds can not fly in front of
> large radar installations.
>

next time you see a flock of bird land on a power line just slap yourself
alongside the head and think "what did i say?"


Usual Suspect

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Mar 5, 2007, 2:05:08 PM3/5/07
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> I have seen scientific errors on Myth Busters before though. But, could you
> imagine how much trouble these guys would be in if they showed the whole
> country how to rip off the power companies? Gives lawyers goose bumps!

Knowledge isn't illegal. Use of it can be.
--
Al, the usual

Tim Gard

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Mar 5, 2007, 2:38:23 PM3/5/07
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Idiot. High tension lines in a city. Can you read or do you just insert
your own crap randomly

Load? An energy consuming device Thats what a load is dummy

Voltage doesn't do anything but push current? Did you come up with that
yourself or do you actually hold a degree in electronics?

Next time someone is talking about radar and you insert 'power line' like as
ass, shoot yourself you dolt. Transmitted energy in Radar shows how strong
a field can be. But I get the impression you are so damned full of yourself
it doesnt matter.

Ok, is that enough juvenile crap for you or do you love to eat this shit you
childish asshole ...

Tim Gard

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Salmon Egg

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Mar 5, 2007, 5:57:56 PM3/5/07
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On 3/5/07 11:38 AM, in article
NJSdnVyzW_It7HHY...@adelphia.com, "Tim Gard"
<dra...@adelphia.net> wrote:

> Load? An energy consuming device Thats what a load is dummy

What is a dummy load?

TimPerry

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Mar 5, 2007, 8:09:11 PM3/5/07
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i now believe Mr Guard is the OP who started this thread in order to pomote
an agenda.


Phillip

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Mar 5, 2007, 9:13:25 PM3/5/07
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"Tim Gard" <dra...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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My dad worked at a substation and you could hold up a florescent light in
high current times and it would light up....


Tim Gard

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Mar 6, 2007, 12:18:27 PM3/6/07
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Boy timmie, you are such an intelligent fella!

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