Proof of overunity

[Keith C]

I did the math I had available and if I'm correct, then the math is
saying over unity. I put the info on my website:
options.xoomsite.com

Decide for yourself. And feel free to prove the math wrong.

[Keith C]

I found that there was a temporary issue with the link above, but this
one works:
http://options.xoomsite.com/index.html

[AGWFacts]

Idiot. If you believe you have achieved "over unity," then you
should know you did the math wrong.

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or fact?" -- Ray Martinez

[Keith C]

Then I must assume your math skills are lacking.

On Mar 24, 11:56 am, AGWFacts <AGWFa...@1800reaklity.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 10:11:56 -0700 (PDT), Keith C
>

[AGWFacts]

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 13:29:56 -0700 (PDT), Keith C
<keith.m....@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 24, 11:56 am, AGWFacts <AGWFa...@1800reaklity.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 10:11:56 -0700 (PDT), Keith C
> >
> > <keith.m.cochr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I did the math I had available and if I'm correct, then the math is
> > > saying over unity. I put the info on my website:
> > > options.xoomsite.com
> >
> > > Decide for yourself. And feel free to prove the math wrong.

> > Idiot. If you believe you have achieved "over unity," then you
> > should know you did the math wrong.

> Then I must assume your math skills are lacking.

What?

[Bernhard Kuemel]

On 03/24/2012 07:56 PM, AGWFacts wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 10:11:56 -0700 (PDT), Keith C
> <keith.m....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I did the math I had available and if I'm correct, then the math is
>> saying over unity. I put the info on my website:
>> options.xoomsite.com
>>
>> Decide for yourself. And feel free to prove the math wrong.
>
> Idiot. If you believe you have achieved "over unity," then you
> should know you did the math wrong.

He is obviously questioning that over unity is impossible, so you can't
use that as axiom.

[Desertphile]

When discussing energy, one is discussing numbers. Anyone who believes
they have observed "over unity" has done the math wrong.


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[Bernhard Kuemel]

On 10/06/2012 03:13 PM, Desertphile wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 02:48:07 +0200, Bernhard Kuemel
> <bern...@bksys.at> wrote:
>
>> On 03/24/2012 07:56 PM, AGWFacts wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 10:11:56 -0700 (PDT), Keith C
>>> <keith.m....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> I did the math I had available and if I'm correct, then the math is
>>>> saying over unity. I put the info on my website:
>>>> options.xoomsite.com
>
>>>> Decide for yourself. And feel free to prove the math wrong.
>
>>> Idiot. If you believe you have achieved "over unity," then you
>>> should know you did the math wrong.
>
>> He is obviously questioning that over unity is impossible, so you can't
>> use that as axiom.
>
> When discussing energy, one is discussing numbers. Anyone who believes
> they have observed "over unity" has done the math wrong.

That may well be right, but that doesn't mean over unity is impossible.
Don't get me wrong, I believe in conservation of energy, but I believe
we might live in a matrix like in the movie, or there might be an
allmighty god. I also don't believe in god or that we live in a matrix
that could be changed/hacked arbitrarily, but there's no way to tell
that it's not this way. I'm just saying it's valid to question axioms.
Then they are no longer axioms and you can't use them to prove or
disprove something.

Bernhard

My favorite prayer: "Dear god, please give me a proof of god."

[Desertphile]

On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 18:43:06 +0200, Bernhard Kuemel

<bern...@bksys.at> wrote:

> On 10/06/2012 03:13 PM, Desertphile wrote:
> > On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 02:48:07 +0200, Bernhard Kuemel
> > <bern...@bksys.at> wrote:
> >
> >> On 03/24/2012 07:56 PM, AGWFacts wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 10:11:56 -0700 (PDT), Keith C
> >>> <keith.m....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>> I did the math I had available and if I'm correct, then the math is
> >>>> saying over unity. I put the info on my website:
> >>>> options.xoomsite.com
> >
> >>>> Decide for yourself. And feel free to prove the math wrong.
> >
> >>> Idiot. If you believe you have achieved "over unity," then you
> >>> should know you did the math wrong.
> >
> >> He is obviously questioning that over unity is impossible, so you can't
> >> use that as axiom.
> >
> > When discussing energy, one is discussing numbers. Anyone who believes
> > they have observed "over unity" has done the math wrong.

> That may well be right, but that doesn't mean over unity is impossible.

You are not maing any sense. It is impossible for 1 to be greater than
2, therefore "over unity" is impossible.

> Don't get me wrong, I believe in conservation of energy, but I believe
> we might live in a matrix like in the movie, or there might be an
> allmighty god. I also don't believe in god or that we live in a matrix
> that could be changed/hacked arbitrarily, but there's no way to tell
> that it's not this way. I'm just saying it's valid to question axioms.
> Then they are no longer axioms and you can't use them to prove or
> disprove something.

I live here in the real world, where "over unity" is impossible. So do
you.

[Bernhard Kuemel]

On 10/06/2012 11:09 PM, Desertphile wrote:
>>> When discussing energy, one is discussing numbers. Anyone who believes
>>> they have observed "over unity" has done the math wrong.
>
>> That may well be right, but that doesn't mean over unity is impossible.
>
> You are not maing any sense. It is impossible for 1 to be greater than
> 2, therefore "over unity" is impossible.
>
>> Don't get me wrong, I believe in conservation of energy, but I believe
>> we might live in a matrix like in the movie, or there might be an
>> allmighty god. I also don't believe in god or that we live in a matrix
>> that could be changed/hacked arbitrarily, but there's no way to tell
>> that it's not this way. I'm just saying it's valid to question axioms.
>> Then they are no longer axioms and you can't use them to prove or
>> disprove something.
>
> I live here in the real world, where "over unity" is impossible. So do
> you.

This real world is very complex. We observe, make theories, and often a
lot of people believe in them and then they turn out to be wrong. The
world isn't a disc where you can fall off. Atoms are not atoms in the
literal sense that you can't split them.

So, theories come and go. They stay until proven wrong. Serious
scientists don't claim a theory is correct, because they don't know what
will be discovered in the future.

Ok, your faith in conservation of energy is very strong. Mine is, too.
But what you claim is to know that this law is true and we will never
discover anything that falsifies this truth. How can you be so sure? In
the real world I live in, predicting the future is prone to error. Did
god reveal to you that this law is true and will not turn out wrong as
it happened to Newtons laws? Do you know any other truths that we can
rely on?

Have a nice day!

Bernhard

[Desertphile]

On Sun, 07 Oct 2012 02:00:24 +0200, Bernhard Kuemel
<bern...@bksys.at> wrote:

> On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 15:09:02 -0600, Desertphile <Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 18:43:06 +0200, Bernhard Kuemel
> > <bern...@bksys.at> wrote:
> >
> > > On 10/06/2012 03:13 PM, Desertphile wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 02:48:07 +0200, Bernhard Kuemel
> > > > <bern...@bksys.at> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On 03/24/2012 07:56 PM, AGWFacts wrote:
> > > >>> On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 10:11:56 -0700 (PDT), Keith C
> > > >>> <keith.m....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>>> I did the math I had available and if I'm correct, then the math is
> > > >>>> saying over unity. I put the info on my website:
> > > >>>> options.xoomsite.com
> > > >
> > > >>>> Decide for yourself. And feel free to prove the math wrong.
> > > >
> > > >>> Idiot. If you believe you have achieved "over unity," then you
> > > >>> should know you did the math wrong.
> > > >
> > > >> He is obviously questioning that over unity is impossible, so you can't
> > > >> use that as axiom.
> > > >

> > > > When discussing energy, one is discussing numbers. Anyone who believes
> > > > they have observed "over unity" has done the math wrong.
> >
> > > That may well be right, but that doesn't mean over unity is impossible.
> >
> > You are not maing any sense. It is impossible for 1 to be greater than
> > 2, therefore "over unity" is impossible.
> >
> > > Don't get me wrong, I believe in conservation of energy, but I believe
> > > we might live in a matrix like in the movie, or there might be an
> > > allmighty god. I also don't believe in god or that we live in a matrix
> > > that could be changed/hacked arbitrarily, but there's no way to tell
> > > that it's not this way. I'm just saying it's valid to question axioms.
> > > Then they are no longer axioms and you can't use them to prove or
> > > disprove something.
> >
> > I live here in the real world, where "over unity" is impossible. So do
> > you.

> This real world is very complex.

That's nice. The subject is the laws of physics. There is no such
thing a "over unity" because 1 is less than 2.

[Dr. Marie H. Uana]

Oh Bullshit !!
You did your webpage wrong !! Doesn' exist !!!
If you want to proof OVERUNITY - search the net for
Thomas E. Beardon - Lt. Col. US Army ret.
John Bedini
Claus Turtur - Prof. of Ostfalia-University in Germany
You find him at his university
http://www.ostfalia.de/cms/de/pws/turtur/FundE/Deutsch/
http://www.ostfalia.de/cms/de/pws/turtur/FundE/English/

and
http://www.Youtube.com

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[Dr. Marie H. Uana]

Check in Youtube (http://www.youtube.com) for
Turtur
Prof. Claus Turtur checked the math AND build a converter for zero-point-energy. He explains it in detail - so YOU can rebuild it!
Of course there is a law of conservation of energy... but WHERE does it apply?
This is also what Thomas Bearden always says. "Check your textbook", Bearden says. He holds a patent of a converter the MEG what makes ca. 30% overunity. He is (as far as I know) still optimizing.

Marie

[Desertphile]

On Tue, 01 Jan 2013 13:48:12 -0600, "Dr. Marie H. Uana"
<kis...@backsi.de> wrote:

> Oh Bullshit !!
> You did your webpage wrong !! Doesn' exist !!!
> If you want to proof OVERUNITY - search the net for
> Thomas E. Beardon - Lt. Col. US Army ret.

There is no such thing as "over unity," silly.


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very seriously deranged individual." --- Alarmist "falcon"

[Desertphile]

No, it is not possible to extract energy from the ZPF.

[Mr Clarke]

The basic concept of over-unity was not invented using math.
Once you grasp how it works you will realise we will need to invent a new
math to go with it.

Ashley Clarke

[Desertphile]

On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 21:49:50 -0000, "Mr Clarke" <Ash...@teranews.com>
wrote:

> The basic concept of over-unity was not invented using math.

There is no such thing as "over unity," Shit-for-brains.

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"If Rod Serling were still alive, he could do an
entire Twilight Zone episode on you." -- erschroedinger

[Mr Clarke]

"Desertphile" <Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote in message
news:57k9e8l9ush3202j9...@4ax.com...

Thankyou for letting us all know

Ashley Clarke

[Desertphile]

On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 20:57:25 -0000, "Mr Clarke" <Ash...@teranews.com>

wrote:

>
> "Desertphile" <Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote in message
> news:57k9e8l9ush3202j9...@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 21:49:50 -0000, "Mr Clarke" <Ash...@teranews.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> The basic concept of over-unity was not invented using math.
> >
> > There is no such thing as "over unity," Shit-for-brains.

> Thankyou for letting us all know

You are welcome. If you had attended school you would have known
already.

[Dr. Marie H. Uana]

You are welcome. If you had attended school you would have known already

that the vacuum is FULL of energy.
Tap it - and never pay any energy bill again :-)
TAP IT !!! This is the ONLY problem.
Maybe YOUR teacher did not know about the energy present everywhere -
including vacuum.
Change school - you will learn :-)


"Desertphile" <Deser...@spammegmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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[harry k]

On Jan 17, 6:30 pm, "Dr. Marie H. Uana" <l...@arsch.de> wrote:
> You are welcome. If you had attended school you would have known already
> that the vacuum is FULL of energy.
> Tap it - and never pay any energy bill again :-)
> TAP IT !!! This is the ONLY problem.
> Maybe YOUR teacher did not know about the energy present everywhere -
> including vacuum.
> Change school - you will learn :-)
>

> "Desertphile" <Desertph...@spammegmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitragnews:h10ce8hkv9ls30t0o...@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 20:57:25 -0000, "Mr Clarke" <AshN...@teranews.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> "Desertphile" <Desertph...@spammegmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:57k9e8l9ush3202j9...@4ax.com...
> >> > On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 21:49:50 -0000, "Mr Clarke" <AshN...@teranews.com>

> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >> The basic concept of over-unity was not invented using math.
>
> >> > There is no such thing as "over unity," Shit-for-brains.
>
> >> Thankyou for letting us all know
>
> > You are welcome. If you had attended school you would have known
> > already.
>
> > --
> > Nemo me impune lacessit.
> > "If Rod Serling were still alive, he could do an
> > entire Twilight Zone episode on you." -- erschroedinger

Assuming you are correct, and that is a looong jump in assuptions,
what does an existing source of engery have to do with "over-unity"?
Do you even have a idiots understanding of the term?

Harry K

[Desertphile]

On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 03:30:03 +0100, "Dr. Marie H. Uana"
<lo...@arsch.de> wrote:

> "Desertphile" <Deser...@spammegmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:h10ce8hkv9ls30t0o...@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 20:57:25 -0000, "Mr Clarke" <Ash...@teranews.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Desertphile" <Deser...@spammegmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:57k9e8l9ush3202j9...@4ax.com...
> >> > On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 21:49:50 -0000, "Mr Clarke" <Ash...@teranews.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The basic concept of over-unity was not invented using math.
> >> >
> >> > There is no such thing as "over unity," Shit-for-brains.
> >
> >> Thankyou for letting us all know
> >
> > You are welcome. If you had attended school you would have known
> > already.

> You are welcome. If you had attended school you would have known already
> that the vacuum is FULL of energy.

Zero Point Energy is at its ground state, Shit-for-brains. It
therefore cannot be used to perform work. When you finish high school
you will understand why.

--
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"I'm a greenhouse skeptic."

[Desertphile]

On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:55:11 -0800 (PST), harry k <tur...@q.com>
wrote:

> On Jan 17, 6:30 pm, "Dr. Marie H. Uana" <l...@arsch.de> wrote:
> > "Desertphile" <Desertph...@spammegmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitragnews:h10ce8hkv9ls30t0o...@4ax.com...
> > > On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 20:57:25 -0000, "Mr Clarke" <AshN...@teranews.com>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >> "Desertphile" <Desertph...@spammegmail.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:57k9e8l9ush3202j9...@4ax.com...
> > >> > On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 21:49:50 -0000, "Mr Clarke" <AshN...@teranews.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> >
> > >> >> The basic concept of over-unity was not invented using math.
> >
> > >> > There is no such thing as "over unity," Shit-for-brains.
> >
> > >> Thankyou for letting us all know
> >
> > > You are welcome. If you had attended school you would have known
> > > already.

> > You are welcome. If you had attended school you would have known already
> > that the vacuum is FULL of energy.
> > Tap it - and never pay any energy bill again :-)
> > TAP IT !!! This is the ONLY problem.
> > Maybe YOUR teacher did not know about the energy present everywhere -
> > including vacuum.
> > Change school - you will learn :-)

> Assuming you are correct, and that is a looong jump in assuptions,
> what does an existing source of engery have to do with "over-unity"?
> Do you even have a idiots understanding of the term?

"Dr. Marie H. Uana" needs to attend high school science class. "The
vacuum" is made of a nearly infinite number of quanta that are each a
discrete quantity of electromagnetic radiation. Their energy content
is already at the lowest state possible---- which is why collectively
space-time is called "The Zero Point Field." It therefore cannot be
used to perform work here in the real (non-quantum level) world.

It is impossible for an isolated system to transport enervy outside
itself. Humanity will never get energy from "the vacuium."

> Harry K

--
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[Mr Clarke]

"Dr. Marie H. Uana" <lo...@arsch.de> wrote in message
news:YqOdnYSCjqMvLmXN...@giganews.com...

> You are welcome. If you had attended school you would have known already
> that the vacuum is FULL of energy.
> Tap it - and never pay any energy bill again :-)
> TAP IT !!! This is the ONLY problem.
> Maybe YOUR teacher did not know about the energy present everywhere -
> including vacuum.
> Change school - you will learn :-)

I haven`t mentioned what makes Over-Unity Tick!
But if I did, the average four year old could understand it.

Ashley Clarke

[harry k]

On Jan 18, 2:19 pm, "Mr Clarke" <AshN...@teranews.com> wrote:
> "Dr. Marie H. Uana" <l...@arsch.de> wrote in messagenews:YqOdnYSCjqMvLmXN...@giganews.com...

(Wild, raucous laughter) Thanks for that joke, I needed it.

Harry K

[Desertphile]

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 21:06:08 -0800 (PST), harry k <tur...@q.com>
wrote:

> On Jan 18, 2:19 pm, "Mr Clarke" <AshN...@teranews.com> wrote:
> > "Dr. Marie H. Uana" <l...@arsch.de> wrote in messagenews:YqOdnYSCjqMvLmXN...@giganews.com...
> >
> > > You are welcome. If you had attended school you would have known already
> > > that the vacuum is FULL of energy.
> > > Tap it - and never pay any energy bill again :-)
> > > TAP IT !!! This is the ONLY problem.
> > > Maybe YOUR teacher did not know about the energy present everywhere -
> > > including vacuum.
> > > Change school - you will learn :-)
> >
> > I haven`t mentioned what makes Over-Unity Tick!
> > But if I did, the average four year old could understand it.

> (Wild, raucous laughter) Thanks for that joke, I needed it.

I laugh at "free energy" clowns in YouTube. They make videos with
titles such as "Make YouR OwN FReEEnerGY dEvvvoicE foR fErr!" and then
try to sell fake plans ($50 each!) on how to build a free energy
device to power one's house.

> Harry K

--
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[jhewitt...@gmail.com]

I bet, I can move 1,000 Lbs of material 30 feet with 1 Lb and a tiny flame from a single match...

Stored energy can be a much greater source of energy when properly extracted, "Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only changed...so if you were able to take a pound of material, and change it to produce more than 1,200 pounds of force, and move the 1,000 pounds of other material, the excess 200 pounds of force could be used to provide energy to another load...is that not the definition of "Over-Unity"? if you refute this claim, I can meet up with you, you provide your car, and a single cigarette match, I will provide one pound of Tri-Nitro Glycerin, put it under your car and let you light the fuse with the match.

Your reply may be "Dynamite doesn't count, it's not energy, it's a chemical reaction!" but what makes you think that energy only comes in the form of kinetic (weight and movement), light, heat and electrical? Potential and stored energy comes in many packages, "Over-Unity" is merely finding the way to so efficiently using a small amount of energy to extract another larger source, creating an excess, some of which can be used to continue powering the method of extraction of the larger source !!!

Don't judge or condemn a thing before you fully understand it Mr. Martinez.

[jhewitt...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, March 24, 2012 12:11:56 PM UTC-5, Keith C wrote:
> I did the math I had available and if I'm correct, then the math is
>
> saying over unity. I put the info on my website:
>
> options.xoomsite.com
>
>
>
> Decide for yourself. And feel free to prove the math wrong.

To all neigh sayers of the "Over-Unity" concept, I propose this...

I bet, I can move 1,000 Lbs of material 30 feet with 1 Lb and a tiny flame from a single match...

Stored energy can be a much greater source of energy when properly extracted, "Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only changed...so if you were able to take a pound of material, and change it to produce more than 1,200 pounds of force, and move the 1,000 pounds of other material, the excess 200 pounds of force could be used to provide energy to another load...is that not the definition of "Over-Unity"? if you refute this claim, I can meet up with you, you provide your car, and a single cigarette match, I will provide one pound of Tri-Nitro Glycerin, put it under your car and let you light the fuse with the match.

Your reply may be "Dynamite doesn't count, it's not energy, it's a chemical reaction!" but what makes you think that energy only comes in the form of kinetic (weight and movement), light, heat and electrical? Potential and stored energy comes in many packages, "Over-Unity" is merely finding the way to so efficiently using a small amount of energy to extract another larger source, creating an excess, some of which can be used to continue powering the method of extraction of the larger source !!!

Don't judge or condemn a thing before you fully understand it.

[jhewitt...@gmail.com]

Oh Dr. Marie H. Uana...

Thomas E. Beardon - Lt Col. US Army (PhD) got his "Doctorate degree" from 'Trinity College and University', http://www.trinityeducation.com/ a place in Spain where for less than $200 US, you can get any degree, transcripts and the works sent to you in less than a month, I'm suggesting you take him off your list !!!

[Desertphile]

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:35:08 -0700 (PDT), jhewitt...@gmail.com wrote:

> I bet, I can move 1,000 Lbs of material 30 feet with 1 Lb and a tiny flame from a single match...

Idiot.

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gullible dolt unable to tell truth from bullshit." -- _Age_of_Ignorance_ by Charles Simic

[wlaz...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, March 24, 2012 at 10:11:56 AM UTC-7, Keith C wrote:
> I did the math I had available and if I'm correct, then the math is
> saying over unity. I put the info on my website:
> options.xoomsite.com
>
> Decide for yourself. And feel free to prove the math wrong.

If the math said Over-unity is correct then the math is right and wrong that is what math is for to prove wrong is right and right is wrong peaches times oranges equiel oranpeach this is what math does however in the real world gravity or magnetic energy can be used to make power of free energy I know I have done it. So do the real not the math that proves nothing show the real over-unity device or shut up.

[harry k]

Post your income tax form. If you "have done it", you wouild be a multibillionaire.