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Do you Lubricate Pitcher pump and leathers?

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vaughn

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Apr 27, 2010, 3:13:48 PM4/27/10
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I am in the process of installing a brand new pitcher pump in my yard. This is
not for drinking water. It will be used to draw washing water and toilet
flushing water from our shallow sprinkler well in case our water utility "drops
the load" following (for example) a hurricane. Secondary use will be to prime
the sprinkler pump..

Should I grease the leathers? (Does grease attack leather?)

Will it hurt anything if I coat the inside of the cylinder with grease to try to
delay pitting?

Thanks
Vaughn


Jim Wilkins

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Apr 27, 2010, 6:06:25 PM4/27/10
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http://www.lifewater.ca/Appendix_L.htm

I should know the answer better, as I worked in a factory that made
leather drive belts and pump cups after school. IIRC the presses did
about the same operation as in the link, but faster. They were
converting to plastics and I never worked with leather on the floor,
though I did analyze samples of it in the lab.

jsw

John B. Slocomb

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Apr 27, 2010, 8:25:29 PM4/27/10
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I'm going from memory here but I believe that the sucker washer and
inside of the pump barrel should be greased when installing. Of
course, this all washes off fairly quickly and then the washer dries
out and the pump won't suck any more. I assume you know about "priming
the pump" which essentially gets the sucker washer wet enough to
become flexible so that it will seal.

John B. Slocomb
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

Phil

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Apr 26, 2010, 9:47:55 PM4/26/10
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I have never used one but from watching old movies they always kept a
pitcher of water nearby to prime the pump. I read in a book about someone
getting yelled at for not refilling the pitcher first.


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...........Rob

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Apr 27, 2010, 10:00:18 PM4/27/10
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On Apr 27, 3:13 pm, "vaughn" <vaughnsi...@gmail.invalid> wrote:

Hi, we used to use a product called "Dubbin, a pungent petrochemical
wax used for the softening and waterproofing of leather."
Worked well on army boots, field use only (hard to get a decent
shine after dubbin) but softened and waterproofed the leather well.
Don't know about a pump, but I did have a leather jacket dry out and
crack once, put dubbin on the next jacket and 35 yrs later its still
with me.

............Rob

z

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Apr 27, 2010, 10:11:41 PM4/27/10
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"vaughn" <vaugh...@gmail.invalid> wrote in
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This is exactly why I keep following this usnet group. Vaughn I have no
idea, but the question alone sends me in search of what a pitcher pump
is and why or why not one would need to 'grease the leathers'.

Cheers

I have web space -- if you get some pictures and want to share please let
me know :)

-zachary

Josepi

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Apr 27, 2010, 10:14:18 PM4/27/10
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I doubt the leathers were "greased" in the good 'ole days. Just water was
poured down to prime the leather and make it seal. There is plumber's grease
for other mechanical parts. I believe it is a silicone based product that
won't "taint" the water for drinking. This is the base for many good quality
leather treatments as well.

With long term lack of usage the leathers may become so dried and cracked
they may not be recoverable.

With grease they may become waterproof and not swell to normal seal
function.

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Josepi

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Apr 27, 2010, 10:08:42 PM4/27/10
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I doubt the leathers were "greased" in the good 'ole days. Just water was
poured down to prime the leather and make it seal. There is plumber's grease
for other mechanical parts. I believe it is a silicone based product that
won't "taint" the water for drinking. This is the base for many good quality
leather treatments as well.

With long term lack of usage the leathers may become so dried and cracked
they may not be recoverable.

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z

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Apr 27, 2010, 10:14:52 PM4/27/10
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z <z...@yada.yada.com> wrote in
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AHH it's one of those hand pumps .. gotcha. Never knew the name for
those before.

Morris Dovey

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Apr 27, 2010, 10:15:54 PM4/27/10
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On 4/26/2010 8:47 PM, Phil wrote:
> I have never used one but from watching old movies they always kept a
> pitcher of water nearby to prime the pump. I read in a book about someone
> getting yelled at for not refilling the pitcher first.

Hmm - that woulda been me about age 4... :)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

z

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Apr 27, 2010, 10:18:03 PM4/27/10
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z <z...@yada.yada.com> wrote in news:Xns9D67C3CAD6862zyadayadayada@
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too bad my old man kicked the bucket. He installed hundreds of those in
central africa during his adventuring days. We never needed pumps here
due to the geography -- gravity flow all the way

hope it works out man

Morris Dovey

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Apr 27, 2010, 10:20:04 PM4/27/10
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On 4/27/2010 9:11 PM, z wrote:

> This is exactly why I keep following this usnet group. Vaughn I have no
> idea, but the question alone sends me in search of what a pitcher pump
> is and why or why not one would need to 'grease the leathers'.
>

> I have web space -- if you get some pictures and want to share please let
> me know :)

http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Misc/SinkPump1.jpg

z

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Apr 27, 2010, 10:38:23 PM4/27/10
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Morris Dovey <mrd...@iedu.com> wrote in
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> On 4/27/2010 9:11 PM, z wrote:
>
>> This is exactly why I keep following this usnet group. Vaughn I have
>> no idea, but the question alone sends me in search of what a pitcher
>> pump is and why or why not one would need to 'grease the leathers'.
>>
>> I have web space -- if you get some pictures and want to share please
>> let me know :)
>
> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Misc/SinkPump1.jpg
>

yeah I'd never heard them called 'pitcher pumps' .. I had some wild images
in mind with the leather question. Now that I see one I know what Vaughn is
talking about ;)

Morris Dovey

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Apr 27, 2010, 10:38:18 PM4/27/10
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On 4/27/2010 9:20 PM, Morris Dovey wrote:

> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Misc/SinkPump1.jpg

Also see: http://www.blurtit.com/q4177551.html for a parts diagram

Josepi

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Apr 27, 2010, 11:00:46 PM4/27/10
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Well he didn't post about leather and call it a "hand job" pump.


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Diogenes

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Apr 27, 2010, 11:42:04 PM4/27/10
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Back around 1963 there was a popular song named "Desert Pete" by the
Kingston Trio that went like this -

I was travelin' west of Buckskin on my way to a cattle run
'Cross a little cactus desert under a hot blisterin' sun.
I was thirsty down to my toenails, stopped to rest me on a stump,
But I tell ya I just couldn't believe it when I saw that water pump.
I took it to be a mirage at first; it'll fool a thirsty man;
Then I saw a note stuck in a bakin' powder can:
"This pump is old", the note began, "but she works, so give 'er a try.
I put a new sucker washer in 'er. You may find the leather dry."

CHORUS:
"You've got to prime the pump, you must have faith and believe.
You've got to give of yourself 'fore you're worthy to receive.
Drink all the water you can hold, wash your face, cool your feet.
Leave the bottle full for others. Thank you kindly, Desert Pete."

"Yeah, you'll have to prime the pump, work that handle like there's a
fire.
Under that rock you'll find some water I left in a bitters jar.
Now there's just enough to prime it with, so don't you go drinkin'
first.
You just pour it in and pump like mad and Buddy, you'll quench your
thirst."
CHORUS

Well I found that jar and I tell ya, nothin' was ever prettier to my
eye,
And I was tempted strong to drink it, 'cause that pump looked mighty
dry.
But the note went on: "Have faith, my friend. There's water down
below.
You got to give until you get. I'm the one who ought to know."

So I poured in the jar and I started pumpin' and I heard a beautiful
sound
Of water bubblin' and splashin' up outta that hole in the ground.
I took off my shoes and I drunk my fill of that cool refreshing treat.
I thanked the Lord and thanked the pump and I thanked old Desert Pete.
CHORUS

----
Diogenes

The wars are long, the peace is frail
The madmen come again . . . .

vaughn

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Apr 28, 2010, 2:22:09 PM4/28/10
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"Morris Dovey" <mrd...@iedu.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/Misc/SinkPump1.jpg

Yep, that picture even gets the color right! These days, they probably all
originate from the same factory in China. Mine came from my local Ace Hardware
store. http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1278432

Vaughn

harry k

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Apr 30, 2010, 1:28:05 PM4/30/10
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From 1940-1951 we got all our water and that for livestock out of one.
From _lots_ of practice from age 6 on using it I can tell you "No, the
leathers are not greased" Just water to prime and replace them
occasionally.

Harry K

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