Need help!! Chinese Jiang Dong 6500kw Generator
jack....@gmail.com
got it I left it sit in the box in the garage. When I finally got
around to hooking it up (over a year later) I found wires coming from
the bottom of the carb not connected to anything. I need to know
where they go and there is no obvious place to plug these in. Does
anyone have a chinese 6500kw generator that has wires coming off the
bottom of the carb that they could trace so I can get an idea where
they might connect??? Photos would be great, and if needed I could
supply some myself.
THANKS!!
Jack
Eeyore
jack....@gmail.com wrote:
> A bit over a year ago I purchased a Chinese Generator, then after I
> got it I left it sit in the box in the garage.
Why ?
Graham
danny burstein
>A bit over a year ago I purchased a Chinese Generator, then after I
>got it I left it sit in the box in the garage. When I finally got
>around to hooking it up (over a year later) I found wires coming from
>the bottom of the carb not connected to anything. I need to know
>where they go and there is no obvious place to plug these in. Does
>anyone have a chinese 6500kw generator that has wires coming off the
You sure it's a 6500kw generator? Something that size
would require a pretty big truck to move around.
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Eeyore
danny burstein wrote:
> jack....@gmail.com writes:
>
> >A bit over a year ago I purchased a Chinese Generator, then after I
> >got it I left it sit in the box in the garage. When I finally got
> >around to hooking it up (over a year later) I found wires coming from
> >the bottom of the carb not connected to anything. I need to know
> >where they go and there is no obvious place to plug these in. Does
> >anyone have a chinese 6500kw generator that has wires coming off the
>
> You sure it's a 6500kw generator? Something that size
> would require a pretty big truck to move around.
Not really. That's only 6.5 kW. Even cars have an alternator that's > 1kW these days and
that's not exactly very big.
Graham
Anthony Matonak
>>
>>You sure it's a 6500kw generator? Something that size
>>would require a pretty big truck to move around.
>
> Not really. That's only 6.5 kW. Even cars have an alternator that's > 1kW these days and
> that's not exactly very big.
Sure, a 6.5 kW generator isn't all that huge but a 6500 kW is.
I'm sure it's a typo because you just don't buy 6.5 Megawatt
generators without getting an idea where the wires go and, even
if you did, you couldn't leave it in a box in the garage unless
your garage doubles as an airplane hanger.
Anthony
Eeyore
Anthony Matonak wrote:
> Eeyore wrote:
> > danny burstein wrote:
> >>jack....@gmail.com writes:
> >>
> >>> Does anyone have a chinese 6500kw generator...
> >>
> >>You sure it's a 6500kw generator? Something that size
> >>would require a pretty big truck to move around.
> >
> > Not really. That's only 6.5 kW. Even cars have an alternator that's > 1kW these days > and
> that's not exactly very big.
>
> Sure, a 6.5 kW generator isn't all that huge but a 6500 kW is.
LOL !
The idea was so absurd I didn't even register it.
Graham
Ulysses
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I have a 5500 watt Chinese generator (UST from Pep Boys auto parts) and it
also has wires going from the carburator. Apparently they are for a
Low-Fuel shut-off and this is seperate from the Low-Oil shut off. At first
I thought it was a mistake in the manual and they really meant Low-Oil
switch (inside the crankcase). So, from my understanding the purpose of the
Low-Fuel shut-off is to turn off the engine if it runs out of fuel or it is
a fuel shut-off switch that is activated by the main On-Off switch. In any
case the wires on mine go from to the cluster of wires that connect to the
On-Off switch and Low-Oil switch and it runs with the wires disconnected.
BTW the carb switch did not help when my float got stuck. I can't check my
manual at the moment cause it has wandered off somewhere but if you need
further information it'll probably show up when it gets hungry. BTW is
there a customer service number on the box or the generator? I've gotten
amazingly good response for my generator. When my float got stuck they sent
me a new carb.
I suggest that you change the oil after the first hour or so of operation
and then again after about 10 hours or so because I suspect the Chinese
reuese the same oil to test their new engines and it may be a bit sludgy.
Aside from a couple of minor problems I'm very happy with my very cheap
Chinese generators--I also bought a 2300 watt model when my second Honda
eu2000 died. I bought the 5500 watt genny when my Honda GX270 engine broke
an exhaust valve.
Vaughn Simon
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>-I also bought a 2300 watt model when my second Honda
> eu2000 died.
the first one. How did the second do?
An employee of mine bought one of those Pep Boys Chicom genneys following a
hurricane. His mobile home park had no power for a couple months while the
management rewired the whole park. It ran fine the whole time. FEMA even
reimbursed him for it. Such a deal!
Vaughn
Jack_L
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Thanks for the help. Yes, it was a typo and is a normal gasoline
6500W Chinese honda clone. I may try to start it up tomorrow and see
if this thing will make some noise.
Jack
Ulysses
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> "Ulysses" <thereal...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >-I also bought a 2300 watt model when my second Honda
> > eu2000 died.
> Ouch! That was an expensive death. I remember that you had high
hours on
> the first one. How did the second do?
Twoie (first one was called Euie--rhymes with Twoie) only lasted about 5200
hours before the so-called governor gear broke which resulted in damage to
the case, timing belt, cam gear, piston rings, and cylinder. I've had it
repaired twice by Honda under warranty but they did not replace the cylinder
(yet) and the authorized repair guys seem like they've never seen the inside
of one of these engines before. It runs but burns a lot of oil and the
voltage drops to about 70VAC with a 1500 watt resistive load and the
frequency varies from about 51-60 Hz. When these things are new the
frequency is rock-solid. They replaced the inverter but it didn't help.
>
> An employee of mine bought one of those Pep Boys Chicom genneys
following a
> hurricane. His mobile home park had no power for a couple months while
the
> management rewired the whole park. It ran fine the whole time. FEMA even
> reimbursed him for it. Such a deal!
>
> Vaughn
>
>
I had three Honda engines fail last December. I bought the 5500 watt Cheap
Chinese (about $350 with rebate) so I could run my well pump after the genny
with the Honda GX270 broke the exhaust valve. I'd been using the Chinese
2300 watt for a few weeks and it seemed to be AOK so I took a chance. It
has an 11 HP OHV engine that, if you look at the diagrams, sure looks a
whole lot like a Honda GX engine. Of course I don't know what it looks like
inside but it runs, in some ways, a little better than the Honda and that
extra 2 HP makes a big difference starting big loads and still gets about
the same gas mileage as the 9 HP Honda. It's quieter and has a better air
cleaner, has some kind of voltage regulation, came with wheels, has an
automatic choke (sorta), and has a very nice front panel. The engine takes
exactly one quart of oil and it has a nice, big fill hole so no funnel is
needed. I have a couple of hundred hours on it now and the oil looks nice
and clear after 50 hours (recommended changes). The heat shield on the
muffler cracked so it has a rattle.
Meanwhile I replaced the valve on the Honda GX but the dent in the piston
apparently is leaking so now I'm waiting on a piston. I filled the hole
with some epoxy and it ran great til the epoxy burned up so I'm pretty sure
all it needs now is the piston. The cylinder still looks good.
Neon John
I didn't see an answer to this so I'll take a shot.
If the "wires coming from the carburetor" look anything like this:
http://www.neon-john.com/Generator/Quiet_pack_55G/Carb_heat.jpg
Then the device is a combination carb heater and emission control
device. It is a solenoid that plugs the main jet when the ignition is
turned off, preventing raw fuel from passing through the coasting-down
engine. Additionally, it makes the engine shut down smoothly without
any after-running or dieseling. When energized, it supplies a small
amount of heat to help prevent carb icing.
If this is what you have then the leads need to be connecting to 12
volt power that is energized when the ignition is on and is
de-energized when the ignition is off.
When you supply 12 volts to the device you should hear a small click
and the device should gradually get warm. The engine will run only
when this solenoid is energized.
John
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Leonard Abbott
up to the ignition. when you turn off the switch, it activates a small
plunger. that acts as a valve...
If you can't find where it plugs into the system, remove the valve and
file off the plunger I have did this on numerous occasions, with riding
mowers, and generators, it will still work fine..
lenny
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mater which wire you use as a ground..
But the other wire must hook up to the Hot wire coming out of the
switch..Use an ice pick tester, and find the hot wire going into the
switch, then turn the switch on and find the other hot wire. this is
where you connect the wire coming out of the carburetor.IT'S EASY AS
PIE...
lenny
You
wrote:
> Leonard Abbott wrote:
>
> > The wires hanging from the carb, is part of a shut off valve, it hooks
> > up to the ignition. when you turn off the switch, it activates a small
> > plunger. that acts as a valve...
> >
> > If you can't find where it plugs into the system, remove the valve and
> > file off the plunger I have did this on numerous occasions, with riding
> > mowers, and generators, it will still work fine..
> >
> > lenny
> >
> I don't generally take advice from people who claim "I have did this ..."
Or WebTv'ers........
Ulysses
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Hmmm... I wonder why mine runs with the wires disconnected....
My instruction manual finally showed up and according to the wiring diagram
it works just like how you said: it shows a solenoid valve that is
connnected to the bridge rectifier on one side and through the main on/off
switch on the other. That would mean that it is energized by the DC output
while the generator is running and off when the generator is shut off. I
can't tell from the diagram if the selenoid goes up or down when on and it
says nothing about the physical location of the selenoid but we all know
it's in the carb.
Now I have to go take apart the carburator to see why it works unconnected
which goes against my principles of not fixing something that ain't broken
;-)
Saul
Thanks for supplying some money for it
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Anthony Matonak
> "Neon John" <n...@never.com> wrote in message...
>
>>When you supply 12 volts to the device you should hear a small click
>>and the device should gradually get warm. The engine will run only
>>when this solenoid is energized.
>
> Now I have to go take apart the carburator to see why it works unconnected
> which goes against my principles of not fixing something that ain't broken
> ;-)
Clearly yours is either broken or has been "fixed" by someone with
some inappropriate amount of force. It's probably like parking
brakes on a car, they never work and the car drives fine without 'em.
:)
Anthony
Jack_L
troubleshooting, and/or hookup but as time allows hopefully I'll be
able to do that this week. I'll post the results whenever I can get it
done.
cdow...@gmail.com
Thanks,
Cheryl
Neon John
>On Tuesday, March 6, 2007 at 5:21:51 PM UTC-8, jack....@gmail.com wrote:
>> A bit over a year ago I purchased a Chinese Generator, then after I
>> got it I left it sit in the box in the garage. When I finally got
>> around to hooking it up (over a year later) I found wires coming from
>> the bottom of the carb not connected to anything. I need to know
>> where they go and there is no obvious place to plug these in.
turns off fuel to the main jet when the ignition is off. This
prevents the emission of raw fuel while the engine coasts down.
The two wires must be connected to 12 volts any time the engine is
supposed to run.
Caution: The first thought will likely be to remove the plunger from
the solenoid to bypass the thing. Many/most modern engines use the
valve to stop the engine. The ignition is not turned off. Removing
the plunger causes the engine to run until it runs out of fuel.
John
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