Lisa Marie Fake
Mary Stonebraker
have to. The Lisa Marie that all of us have seen in pictures is not the
real girl. Oh yes I know that you will say that she looks so much like
Elvis and yes there is a reason for that also, facial surgery. I know I
will get a lot of flack from all of you, but I can assure you that it is
true. From this point forward I will refer to the fake as Mrs Jackson
and the real one as the Lisa from Sweden. Not more than a month ago
Lois Smith and I meet with this Lisa Marie, she flew from Sweden to just
visit with her aunt. They had a very long talk and had the very same
remembrances of when Elvis left the building in 1977. This Lisa has
meet with Priscilla here in Memphis and has asked for a DNA to prove who
she is and Priscilla will not give it to her. In 1977, Priscilla, took
Lisa to Europe to go to school where she would be safe from kidnap
attempts, somewhere along the line the Scientology Church took over and
Lisa was abandoned in Sweden. For 10 years she has tried to recover her
name, I am told she is sent enough money from Graceland to live a normal
life, this girl has never had a job and has always been supported. With
the fans help she can save her fathers things from this auction and if
we sign enough petitions we can take them into court and hopefully the
judge will order Priscilla to take the DNA test. Scientology is taking
over Graceland and Elvis and Lisa need your support. Now I know I will
probably get a lot of flack, but I hope not because before this auction
there should be a lot of coverage on this. I will not fight any fan for
what they believe but I will post what I think is necessary for the fans
and public in general to be aware of what is currently taking place and
what you can do to help. Our Swedish Lisa has sent a statement to the
fans and it is as follows: What is now occurring in my name is a
disgrace. It is an offence against my father, his family and his fans.
Also to the people of America and our history. It is my wish and hope
that the grace and dignity my father and his legacy deserves will be
restored, so that people in the future as well as in the past can take
part in his greatness and be inspired. LISA MARIE PRESLEY aka
LESA JOHANSEN
If you can help Lisa and Elvis with a petition please e-mail me in
private or if you can think of anything else that we can do. Elvis and
Lisa Marie are counting on your support.
Jordans Elvis World
Nutso... When Confronted By Her Birth Mother (Her Real One In Sweden) With
Birth Certificates And Everything, Lisa Johansen Flew Off The Wall And Had To
Be Sent To A Institution Where She Was Diagnosed As Being Dilusional And A
Paranoid Schitzophrenic (Spelling?) In Fact I Remember Bill Burk Telling Me
That He Had Asked This Woman Some Questions That Only The Real Lisa Would Know,
And This Johanson Woman Didn't Even Come Close. So Please Use A Little Common
Sense This Swedish Woman Looks NOTHING Like Elvis Or Priscilla, And She Speaks
With An Accent!!!!! And Another Thing, Scientology IS NOT Taking Over
Graceland, And They Never Will! Lisa And Priscilla Have Both Made That
Clear.....
This Swedish Woman Is NOT LISA MARIE PRESLEY! It Makes Me So Upset That They
Try To Drain All The Money From Elvis, Now All The Leeches Are Attacking His
Daughter! It Wouldn't Surprise Me If EPE Is Already In The Process Of Sueing
This Woman..
-Jordan
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Mok...@webtv.net
someone else alone".. I guess its you time to get pick at..
That is your opinion and I have mine..I am having a hard time believing
this story.I think that Lisa Marie Jackson has eyes like Elvis..I just
don't believe this but, I am keeping an open mind....Good luck-You will
need it-
long time Elvis fan
Lena
Mickey Moran
Sense This Swedish Woman Looks NOTHING Like Elvis Or Priscilla, And She Speaks
With An Accent!!!!!>>>
Give me a break. You use a little common sense. If you were raised in a
foreign country, don't you think you would speak with an accent?
Mickey Moran
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Mickey Moran
You certainly have my support but I can tell you right now that the
closed-minded people absolutely don't trust DNA and you are going to receive a
lot of flack. I can just say that you shouldn't let this discourage you. We
know the truth and very soon they will too. It's just a matter of waiting it
out and standing up for what you believe in. I commend you for your efforts
and encourage you to push forward no matter how much flack you get. My name
will be on your petition. Keep up the good work.
Chad Keener
>This Swedish Woman Looks NOTHING Like Elvis Or Priscilla,
have you ever put the pics together in comparison???? if it's not elvis' Real
daughter, they are definately blood-related somehow!
>And She Speaks
>With An Accent!!!!!
duh! she has been in sweden for 22 years! that kind of thing just takes over.
my mom lived in australia for half her life and when she moved to the u.s. she
spoke with a very strong ''g'day mate!'' australian accent. she now speaks a
more ''american pie'' u.s accent than the australian dialect
> Scientology IS NOT Taking Over
>Graceland, And They Never Will! Lisa And Priscilla Have Both Made That
>Clear.....
thats what they what you to think......
>It Wouldn't Surprise Me If EPE Is Already In The Process Of Sueing
>This Woman..
i e-mailed graceland about this and they said they had no reason to take action
againt lisa-johansen aka lisa-marie. they said they are leaving this up to
priscilla and ''lisa marie''. and thus far, priscilla and ''lisa marie'' have
not even publicly commented on his whole ordeal. i wonder why????
>Burk Telling Me
>That He Had Asked This Woman Some Questions That Only The Real Lisa Would
>Know,
>And This Johanson Woman Didn't Even Come Close.
c'mon, man. read the book! i did and found it oddly convincing
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Anne King
I have.
The girl in Sweden has some very real emotional problems, caused by her
adoptive parents using her to replace their dead daughter "Sari".
I feel so sorry for this girl she obviously has had an awful life, but SHE
IS NOT ELVIS PRESLEY'S DAUGHTER!
To make a claim on the Elvis Presley Estate, you have to be Lisa Marie, in
Elvis' will he leaves everything to Lisa and whomever Vernon felt inclined
to look after!
Vernon is dead (No don't tell me you don't believe that either!) so to make
a claim you have to be LISA MARIE PRESLEY, this girl is obviously being
used by someone going after the estate!
I was raised to believe you don't mock the inflicted, and I don't think it
nice or fair for anyone to encourage this girl in her delusions.
Or in the words of Lisa, Presley that is not Johansen
"that's crap"
Keeping Elvis # 1
Editor
Lisa Marie Presley Appreciation Society
Anne
Jordans Elvis World
>From: "Anne King" <ann...@globalnet.co.uk>
>Date: Mon, 21 June 1999 01:21 PM EDT
>Message-id: <01bebc0a$57c86bc0$fce693c3@default>
Thank You Anne For Clearing This Nonsense Up.. I Find It Sickening. The Fact Is
The World Is Full Of Gullable People Who Believe This Stuff, And Those Are The
People I Truly Feel Sorry For.
Mok...@webtv.net
time...Lisa Marie looks too much like her daddy..
tcb...@my-deja.com
cn1.aol.com>,> Sense This Swedish Woman Looks NOTHING Like
Elvis Or Priscilla, And She Speaks
> With An Accent!!!!!>>>
>
> Give me a break. You use a little common
sense. If you were raised in a
> foreign country, don't you think you would
speak with an accent?
>
> http://www.elvisalive.com/
> http://forums.bruin.net/cgi-
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>
http://apps.vantagenet.com/aforums/thread.asp?id=1
999520204313
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for 9 years would not speak with a foreign accent.
all of these conspiracies are making a mockery of
elvis and his work.
>
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Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
tcb...@my-deja.com
Ronald W
this should be interesting
MoonOOO
Jordan,
Y'all ought not even answer these sick people and there Elvis is alive and
Lisa's a fake theories.
I was there when Lisa was born, I saw her growing up, she looks the same now as
she did then, only a grown up version. She is the same person who married that
freak Michael Jackson.
This girl in Sweden is either mentally ill or perpetrating a con on some
people.
The same idiot's that are behind the Elvis Is Alive, Mickey and Bill Beanie,
are the sickos behind this Lisa crap.
Everyone needs to leave them alone and not answer them and let them wallow in
their own dementia.
I have no idea why Mary stirred this crap up and if she really believes this,
that's sad.
Marty
G&E
I must admit, though, this would make one hell of a movie.
Greg
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Mary Stonebraker <ELVISM...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Bill
G&E wrote:
> Oh, Lawdy, Miss Clawdy.
>
> I must admit, though, this would make one hell of a movie.
>
> Greg
> --
> Our "Webb" site
> http://www.hcis.net/users/underwear
>
It was a movie, it was called Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Has anyone
noticed any pods laying around Graceland lately?
Bill
Mary Stonebraker
provide a DNA testing. You better go right back to Bill and ask him why
when he did an interview in my home he told both Lois Smith and myself
that the highest paying jobs were going to Scientologist that they were
brought in from Los Angeles.
Mary Stonebraker
know that everything that I have said is gospel truth. God Bless you
and me because I am going to need it.
RADIOCOWBY
>
> You certainly have my support but I can tell you right now that the
>closed-minded people absolutely don't trust DNA and you are going to receive
>a
>lot of flack. I can just say that you shouldn't let this discourage you. We
>know the truth and very soon they will too. It's just a matter of waiting it
>out and standing up for what you believe in. I commend you for your efforts
>and encourage you to push forward no matter how much flack you get. My name
>will be on your petition. Keep up the good work.
>
>
>http://www.elvisalive.com/
>http://forums.bruin.net/cgi-bin/fbn/fbn.cgi/bruin.action.elvis.is.alive
>http://apps.vantagenet.com/aforums/thread.asp?id=1999520204313
>Join the 'Elvis Is King' Webring at www.elvisalive.com/webring.htm
>
>
throw up. Nothing will ever be settled on the Elvis is Alive or Lisa is Fake
bull... People like Mickey and now it appears YOU will disgrace his name
forever.
We can dig up the grave, show the world the body as sick as it would be and
some idiot would insist that it was a fake. For Gods sake who is going to
authenticate it.
And DNA? Same goes here there will be lunatics no matter what. I supported
you in the past telling everyone that you werent crazy. I'm beginning to
wonder.
And her name is NOT Lisa Marie Jackson it is Lisa Marie Presley and always has
been. For you see a woman legally can use any name she choses as long as she
is not intending to defraud. Actually so can a male for that matter but Lisa
has always been Lisa Marie Presley.
I can understand Mickeys position on this. He loves the attention. A
pseudomasochist I think. But you seemed to have a lot more brains than this.
Lisa Johansen is a fake. Mickey is a Fake and Mary why the hell do you want
to get involved in this. Elvis would not appreciate the lies.
RADIOCOWBY
>>
>>"that's crap"
>>
>>Keeping Elvis # 1
>>Editor
>>Lisa Marie Presley Appreciation Society
>>Anne
>
>
>Thank You Anne For Clearing This Nonsense Up.. I Find It Sickening. The Fact
>Is
>The World Is Full Of Gullable People Who Believe This Stuff, And Those Are
>The
>People I Truly Feel Sorry For.
>-Jordan
Lisa Marie appreciation society. I like that!
Although I dont support Scientology of Lisa and her mothers choice. I support
their rights to Freedom of Religion...
RADIOCOWBY
The plot has been developed and already has an ending. Going on the internet
and getting fans reactions is the last step.
It will have to be X-rated though to put in the real reactions cause these
people are FUCKING IDIOTS!
Mary Stonebraker
have of the things that I know you wouldn't believe, so I won't even
bother to say then. I am not asking anyone to back me up on this, but I
am asking that you be kind to Elvis and back him up. Sign a petition
for a DNA sample. I am doing this to save Elvis' fortune. I am not
happy doing this, it really has made me sich and I have had several
sleepless nights over all of it. All of you call yourselves Elvis fans,
but non are willing to stand up for his rights. EPE has enough money to
build that housing unit without selling off his concert suit and
personal belongings. They EPE would make enough money off of ticket
sale if they used one of their buildings at Graceland crossing as a
ticket building and you the information center as a new museum, many
people would pay to see these items for a very long time, if they sell
them it is a one time shot. If I loose friends over all of this nothing
is lost because you were never friends to begin with and I have to live
with my convections. We all have been born with the 5th ammendment, and
I am using that right. Now if you don't like me because I don't think or
see things your way so be it.
Mary Stonebraker
there is none for you are he.
Mary Stonebraker
Webpage and just look at the difference in the girls face as time
progresses. Lena, we are trying to save Elvis' personal belongings, not
to hurt either girl. We are asking for a DNA sample that will prove who
is who and if Lois and I are wrong then we will admit it. Lois has met
with her and also Ms Jackson and Ms Jackson will not even mention a
memory, much less speak one.
Anne King
> there is none for you are he.
I'm not a scientologist, but I respect Lisa's right to belong to whichever
religion she wants, just as I respect Lisa Johansen's right to believe in
her religion, which is also not mine, (I'm a Roman Catholic).
Are you for this because you really believe? Or because you don't like
Lisa's religion? Dislike of which is a very big part of the book.
Keeping Elvis # 1
Anne
Anne King
and
> Lisa's a fake theories.
I know I just couldn't help myself, it pisses me off so much!
Anne King
mention a
> memory, much less speak one.
In the words of Lisa Marie Presley
" It's a personal and private thing"
Said when defending "Elvis and Me", He was her father she doesn't have a
lot of the real him left, doesn't she have the right to keep what little
she does have to herself?
I for one have always applauded her for not being on every chat show going,
or publishing a "new" book every couple of years "my life with my dad,
again!"
You come across as someone desperate for a part of Elvis and as this girl
from Sweden is willing to feed you whatever you want, you'll back her!!!!!
Jeanette Bruins
>>>Subject: Re: Lisa Marie Fake
>>>From: "Anne King" <ann...@globalnet.co.uk>
>>>Date: Mon, 21 June 1999 01:21 PM EDT
>>>Message-id: <01bebc0a$57c86bc0$fce693c3@default>
>>>
>>>Have you read the book?
>>>
>>>I have.
>>>
>>>The girl in Sweden has some very real emotional problems, caused by her
>>>adoptive parents using her to replace their dead daughter "Sari".
>>>
>>>I feel so sorry for this girl she obviously has had an awful life, but SHE
>>>IS NOT ELVIS PRESLEY'S DAUGHTER!
>>>
>>>To make a claim on the Elvis Presley Estate, you have to be Lisa Marie, in
>>>Elvis' will he leaves everything to Lisa and whomever Vernon felt inclined
>>>to look after!
>>>
>>>Vernon is dead (No don't tell me you don't believe that either!) so to make
>>>a claim you have to be LISA MARIE PRESLEY, this girl is obviously being
>>>used by someone going after the estate!
>>>
>>>I was raised to believe you don't mock the inflicted, and I don't think it
>>>nice or fair for anyone to encourage this girl in her delusions.
>>>
>>>Or in the words of Lisa, Presley that is not Johansen
>>>
>>>"that's crap"
>>>
>>>Keeping Elvis # 1
>>>Editor
>>>Lisa Marie Presley Appreciation Society
>>>Anne
>>
>>
>>Thank You Anne For Clearing This Nonsense Up.. I Find It Sickening. The Fact
>>Is
>>The World Is Full Of Gullable People Who Believe This Stuff, And Those Are
>>The
>>People I Truly Feel Sorry For.
>>-Jordan
>
>Jordan,
>
>Y'all ought not even answer these sick people and there Elvis is alive and
>Lisa's a fake theories.
>
>I was there when Lisa was born, I saw her growing up, she looks the same now as
>she did then, only a grown up version. She is the same person who married that
>freak Michael Jackson.
>
>This girl in Sweden is either mentally ill or perpetrating a con on some
>people.
>
>The same idiot's that are behind the Elvis Is Alive, Mickey and Bill Beanie,
>are the sickos behind this Lisa crap.
>
>Everyone needs to leave them alone and not answer them and let them wallow in
>their own dementia.
>
>I have no idea why Mary stirred this crap up and if she really believes this,
>that's sad.
>
>Marty
I agree on this one Marty. Those people you are talking about are
mentally ill for sure !
Ton B.
Mary Stonebraker
I am just trying to save it. I was with Elvis' aunt Lois Smith and the
Lisa from Sweden only a month ago and they have the same personal
memories of when Elvis died and little things only the two of them could
share. Everyone wouldn't have known about a picture that was broken in
the pool room. Its things like that and why won't Priscilla give a DNA
test when it would be so simple to do that. I want you to know that I am
not on anyones side other than Elvis'. I hope you know that, if you
have some real evidence that this is not the girl please bring it
forward at this time that we may examine it. Marty what I am saying in
not done in smartness here and I really would like to know the truth now
ok? From the time that Lisa was 9 years old how often did you see her?
Was there a period of time right after Elvis died that she was not
present? We know that there was a nurse that had two daughters, one was
always dressed like Lisa and they would play together dressed alike so
that if there was a kidnap attempt on Lisa they would not know which
child was the real Lisa Marie.
Marty I really don't know the truth I wasn't there I am going by what I
saw and heard not over a month ago and I know that Lois is convenced and
I have been trying to help Lois and she believes in this whole heartly.
There is not doubt in her mind. I couldn't tell any of you that I
myself know that is Lisa Marie, it is a gut feeling, and Lois does know
Lisa and she is going to bat for her. If it wasn't for Lois believing
in and asking me to put these messages in the computer I would not do
it. I am doing it in the name of fair play, if this girl is not Lisa
then lets have a DNA party and know for sure. Because some of us was
not here to know who is who. I am banking on Lois SMith. Any
information would be helpful, and looks don't count because a good Dr.
could change that very quickly and easily. Thank you for your time.
Mary Stonebraker
can't fight Scientology it is all over the world and it is an accepted
religion. I don't want Elvis' personal belongings auctioned off when we
were promised a museum to put them in. If it were not for we the fans,
Graceland would just be Graceland and Elvis would be driving a truck.
We you might say helped him attain these items and we should have some
say. Graceland should be made accountable for what it does and show why
it needs to auction off all of these items. It also needs to show why
it is that items that cost not even a tenth of what price they are sold
for keeps going up every year. Thats alright if you can't pay cash just
use your Elvis credit card, that should work fine, until you have to pay
for it. It they just wanted to give a place to the homeless and give
them a helping hand up, which by the way is only for 8 to 10 families,
why not donate one of the already owned apartment buildings that they
already own at Meadow Oaks just down from Graceland. All I am saying is
look further than your nose, there is more to it than what meets the
eye.
RADIOCOWBY
>know that everything that I have said is gospel truth. God Bless you
>and me because I am going to need it.
You are going to get burned Mary...
Remember how easily people fell under the spell of Jim Jones? The Swede is a
Fake!
RADIOCOWBY
>Webpage and just look at the difference in the girls face as time
>progresses. Lena, we are trying to save Elvis' personal belongings, not
>to hurt either girl. We are asking for a DNA sample that will prove who
>with her and also Ms Jackson and Ms Jackson will not even mention a
>memory, much less speak one.
>
RADIOCOWBY
support Elvis then let him rest in peace. That is what he wanted. #3 There
are tons of personal items of his that would be better served in another museum
somewhere. Let someone buy them.... #4 Harrassing someone of the stature of
Lisa Marie Presley is NOT a very smart decission... She and Priscilla will eat
you alive
RADIOCOWBY
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I would like to suggest that Lois Smith submit to a Psychologigal test and a
Lie Detector Test.... also she should have a DNA run on herself.... Now
these tests should be conducted by respected and trusted folks.... Once done
I'm sure she will just the hell up.
Mary Stonebraker
about a personal thing between an aunt that Lisa hadn't seen since she
was 9 years old. She had no feeling or being glad to see her. Now on
the other hand the Swedish girl flew all the way from Sweden to just
spend the day with Lois and I. I have huged that little lady twiced and
kissed her cheek and I can say that I love her almost as much as I love
Elvis. I love her almost as much as I do my own daughter who is the same
age as Lisa. There isn't anything that I wouldn't do for her or for
Elvis.
Mary Stonebraker
will tell you that. I am doing only what I feel right in doing.
Someone has to make the truth come out, none of the rest of you are
standing up and being accounted for.
Mok...@webtv.net
>>Remember how easily people fell under >>the spell of Jim Jones? The
Swede is a Fake!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Think about this Mary... Jim Jones
is a scary thought....
long time Elvis fan
Lena
Anne King
> were promised a museum to put them in.
Are you willing to pay for the insurance?
I know you will not like this but reality is Graceland isn't a proper home
anymore it is a very profitable business.
But as with all business' it has running costs, which the merchandise and
entrance for tours covers very well, but what it also has are shareholders
and at least three dependants, Lisa, Danielle and Benjamin, who through no
fault of their own have to have round the clock security.
Whom in Lisa's case and maybe one day in Danielle's and Benjamin's cases
too will try to think about jobs and careers, but as Priscilla and Lisa
have both discovered will feel like freaks in a side show, as people will
be more interested in staring at them than actually conducting any
business, so (and I'm sure they're not going to complain) they will not be
employable, so unless they have talent and can create a show business
career, they will mostly likely have to live off Elvis.
Therefore they have to run this business in the best way possible to ensure
years of business, to look after Elvis' grandchildren and great
grandchildren?
> We you might say helped him attain these items and we should have some
> say. Graceland should be made accountable for what it does and show why
> it needs to auction off all of these items.
Do you go to the chairman of the board of your local shopping mall and
demand to know why or in what way's he is spending the profits made?
It's the same thing! They supply a demand we create!
> If they just wanted to give a place to the homeless and give them a
helping hand up, which by the way is only for 8 to 10 families,
Millions of people won't have even considered donating the money raised to
any charity, your comment just goes to prove you can't please some people!
> why not donate one of the already owned apartment buildings that they
> already own at Meadow Oaks just down from Graceland.
In what area, are the homes being "build/donated" is it close to the area
these people are currently living in, maybe close to work? Schools? or
should they move them across town so "hey I've got a roof over my head, but
I can't afford to go to work, and my kids aren't getting an education
anymore, as they'd have to walk ten miles to get to their school?"
I'm sure there was a great deal of consideration put into this, before it
was decided, because as much as I like Lisa and Priscilla, they ain't going
to give away anything they genuinely think they can get a profit from!
> All I am saying is look further than your nose, there is more to it than
what meets the
> eye.
There is a very sad girl from Sweden who needs to work out her problems
live her own life, and not go looking for an escape by claiming to be
someone she isn't, and I'm afraid Mary as much as I think your loyalty to
this girl is a wonderful quality in you, you really need to look beyond
your own wants and realise the EPE is a business, and there is more to this
Swedish girl than meets the eye!
Editor
Lisa Marie Appreciation Society
Anne
Bill Burk
absurdities of many of the threads. But when "I" am being quoted in some of
this crap, I feel I have to set the record straight.
Yes, there was "an interview." I reported an UNCONFIRMED situation, stating
it was unconfirmed. I never mentioned "highest paid jobs" or that anyone
was being shipped into Memphis from LA.
How many times since July 1998 have I kicked myself in the ass for agreeing
to that "interview" in the first place. Yet, it happened and I chose not to
print (or to reveal in public) the contents of what all was said by all
parties during a 3+ hour face-off!
This marks twice in recent weeks "I" have had my private quotes stretched to
the Nth degree. Isn't privacy honored any more? And if we invade a
person's privacy, don't we have the responsibility to at least report the
FACTS straight?
I am just off the phone today after 90 minutes with People Magazine TV on
this same subject. It seems Lisa Marie Johansen's publicist had threatened
People that unless they ran her story, claiming "sinister forces" were now
in charge of EPE and running Graceland, keeping Johansen from inherting what
is "rightfully" hers, said publicist was going to hold a press conference
and tell the world that People is part of the subversion plot to take over
Graceland !!!
WHY the threat? The effort to intimidate?
This is FACT . . . not he said / she said.
I ask you all to consider the following:
1. Elvis is DEAD ! Alive in our hearts forever, maybe, but he's DEAD!
2. Lisa Marie Presley, the one who married Mikey Jackson, is the REAL
Lisa Marie Presley. There are too many friends and family members here in
Memphis who will testify to that, if pushed hard enough. Yet most choose to
stay out of it because of the absurdity of the claims. I mean, who needs
this?
3. DNA testing at the request of a Swedish Lisa Marie? This is like the
requests of some to dig up Elvis' body for a DNA test.
Folks, this is a PRIVATE family. Put yourself in their shoes. What right
does anyone have to ask/demand a DNA test? Just because fans bought Elvis'
records don't give them the right to ask/demand DNA tests. Why don't we
demand we dig up Lisa Marie Johansen's birth parents and perform DNA on them
in Sweden? What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
4. Selling Elvis' things at auction. First, most of the stuff listed to
date is insignificant items from the Parker collection. Second, when our
good friend Jimmy Velvet was selling off all those Elvis-owned things (he
got from family members), where was the hue and cry THEN that this was wrong
. . . that everything had to be preserved for the fans?
Butterfield & Butterfield, Guernseys and even Bonham -- all noted auction
houses -- have sold off jumpsuits, cars, all kinds of personal Elvis
memorabilia in recent years and NEVER has there been an uprising amongst the
fans because they were being sold and, presumably, being taken away from the
fans. The only complaints I heard about those auctions were from fans who
did not bid high enough to get an item.
As I do each time I come on-line publicly, I apologize for entering into
this, but there are just times when I "have" to speak out.
Anyone who E-mails me privately knows what I am about. I am just not a
"public" person, particularly among certain "audiences."
007
Anne King
> standing up and being accounted for.
I'm standing up and being counted in the people that believe in Lisa Marie
Presley daughter of Elvis being the same girl who appeared on stage in
Memphis on August 16th 1997.
Anne
Anne King
> is a scary thought....
How is Jim Jones?
Tom Sanocki
We appreciate your candor and I personally feel that this Lisa Marie Johansen
should be "bitch-slapped". It is a ridiculous waste of time that we should even
have to think seriously about this topic. Why the hell didn't this chick come
forward years ago? No excuse, except bull-shit! Twenty-two years after his
death, people are still gullible, insensitive and full of shit. TCB Bill. BTW,
did you ever get my yo-yo back from Vernon before he died?
--
TCB-Tom......Promoting Elvis - Artist of the Century!
.....take it home son!
MoonOOO
Mary,
Let me be as kind as I can, the supposed Lisa from Sweden is a phony. Lois was
hardly ever around Elvis, so I fail to see what memories she could share with
the fake Lisa. You need to get off of this DNA nonsense. Nobody owes you or
anyone else an explanation, no less a DNA test.
This girl from Sweden needs to be careful because she's bordering on fraud and
the more she keeps pushing it, the more she might end up behind bars. SHE'S
NOT ELVIS' DAUGHTER AND ELVIS IS NOT ALIVE.
You claim to be on Elvis' side, yet by spouting this nonsense you are doing him
and his memory a dis-service. You really need to just enjoy his music and
movies and then get a life of your own.
As for Elvis' personal things being auctioned, it's not the first time and it
won't be the last. Much of his stuff has been sold off or auctioned over the
years. That is the business of EPE not your's or anyone else's business. It's
privately owned. Just by selling stuff he owned does not diminish Elvis or his
memory in any way.
All this nonsense of the Lisa from Sweden and Elvis Is Alive is just that
nonsense. For you to be a part of it is very sad and just diminishes your
image, if you have one. You come on here talking about your credibility and
wanting to be friends with everyone and I can tell you that your messages
regarding this subject will result in people thinking you're a nutcase.
Lisa Marie is the girl I saw when she was born and grew up. Unfortunately she
did a few things like marrying Michael Jackson that would make her father very
unhappy. It is that girl who is the real and only Lisa marie, not this poor,
pitiful soul from Sweden.
You asked and that's my answer.
Marty
Peach
Peach
Bill Burk <beb...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:7kohst$gra$1...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net...
Mok...@webtv.net
ann...@globalnet.co.uk (Anne King) Re: Lisa Marie Fake
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~He's a pack of bones....Lost a lot of
weight....it maybe very hot where he is at..I bet he would like to have
some ice water...:)
Mickey Moran
>was
>hardly ever around Elvis, so I fail to see what memories she could share with
>the fake Lisa. You need to get off of this DNA nonsense. Nobody owes you or
>anyone else an explanation, no less a DNA test.
On the contrary. If myself, or anyone else, went to EPE and said, "I am
Elvis' son and I demand my portion of the fortune", EPE would demand a DNA test
to prove that I am who I say I am. Otherwise, they would be admitting that I
am who I say I am. Which is exactly what they are doing with Lisa Johansen.
The reason I'm not saying I'm Elvis' son and demanding my part is because I
know I would be proven to be a fraud. Lisa knows that she will not be proven a
fraud and so does EPE which is why they won't do the DNA testing.
>
>This girl from Sweden needs to be careful because she's bordering on fraud
>and
>the more she keeps pushing it, the more she might end up behind bars. SHE'S
>NOT ELVIS' DAUGHTER AND ELVIS IS NOT ALIVE.
I can't wait until the day when I can go on national television and rub
this in your face.
Mickey Moran
http://www.elvisalive.com/
http://forums.bruin.net/cgi-bin/fbn/fbn.cgi/bruin.action.elvis.is.alive
http://apps.vantagenet.com/aforums/thread.asp?id=1999520204313
Join the 'Elvis Is King' Webring at www.elvisalive.com/webring.htm
MoonOOO
>>was
>>hardly ever around Elvis, so I fail to see what memories she could share
>with
>>the fake Lisa. You need to get off of this DNA nonsense. Nobody owes you
>or
>>anyone else an explanation, no less a DNA test.
>
> On the contrary. If myself, or anyone else, went to EPE and said, "I am
>Elvis' son and I demand my portion of the fortune", EPE would demand a DNA
>test
>to prove that I am who I say I am. Otherwise, they would be admitting that I
>am who I say I am. Which is exactly what they are doing with Lisa Johansen.
>The reason I'm not saying I'm Elvis' son and demanding my part is because I
>know I would be proven to be a fraud. Lisa knows that she will not be proven
>a
>fraud and so does EPE which is why they won't do the DNA testing.
>
>>
>>This girl from Sweden needs to be careful because she's bordering on fraud
>>and
>>the more she keeps pushing it, the more she might end up behind bars. SHE'S
>>NOT ELVIS' DAUGHTER AND ELVIS IS NOT ALIVE.
>
> I can't wait until the day when I can go on national television and rub
>this in your face.
>
>
>Mickey Moran
Hey Dimwit,
I got something you can rub in your face, you demented, lobotomized idiot!
Marty
MoonOOO
perspective, and hopefully put this to an end.
You can talk about all the DNA, RNA, HNA,ENA or any other kind of NA you want
to. The only way this swedish girl is going to get to prove her point, is to
legally sue Lisa Marie and Priscilla. Lisa Marie,as we have known her for the
last 31 years is EPE, she owns it all. Now Ms. Sweden is not going to sue
because she knows she's perpetrating a scam, and if she gets in the courts
she's going to be proven wrong and she might go to jail. She knows she's not
the real Lisa and all she and her manager Bill Beanie and his protege, Mickey
the Dimwit are doing, is keeping this bullshit alive both for the fame and
whatever money she can generate selling her bullshit book and anything else
they've got up their sleeve. Anyone who falls for their crap is doing nothing
but showing their gulliblity and ignorance. The same goes for the Elvis Is
Alive crap.
If they want to prove their points then take Lisa, Priscilla and EPE to court,
until then shut your mouths. That's the only chance they have to get DNA but
somehow I think the judge will throw their asses out of court.
They call themselves Elvis fans? My Ass!
Please, all you sane people on this ng--IGNORE
THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marty
Mickey Moran
>
>I got something you can rub in your face, you demented, lobotomized idiot!
>
>Marty
That logic makes a great come-back. I'm impressed. Usually, you say
something stupid and off-the-wall. However, you have proven with this
statement that you are an intelligent, well-rounded individual. Well...,
you're round anyway.
Mickey Moran
Will you at least act like you have some sense? If Lisa Johansen's book
had any falseties between it's covers, there would have already been a law
suit. Only it would have been EPE initiating the suit, NOT Lisa Johansen.
Your lack of intelligence and common sense is why you were passed up for
promotion by Elvis and Vernon.
Bill
Mickey Moran wrote:
> Marty,
>
> Will you at least act like you have some sense? If Lisa Johansen's book
> had any falseties between it's covers, there would have already been a law
> suit. Only it would have been EPE initiating the suit, NOT Lisa Johansen.
> Your lack of intelligence and common sense is why you were passed up for
> promotion by Elvis and Vernon.
>
> Mickey Moran
Do you even know what Marty was referring to or are you too busy trying to round
up a senile old man to claim that you have the real Vernon Presley? You stated
quote: "If myself, or anyone else, went to EPE and said, "I am Elvis' son and I
demand my portion of the fortune", EPE would demand a DNA test to prove that I am
who I say I am." unquote. The only way the EPE would demand the test is if you
made a LEGAL challenge to the estate. You or the Swedish loony have not done
this, so EPE is under no obligation to provide DNA to you or to demand that you
give DNA to them. To them, all you are is another con man and she is an some
poor unbalanced woman.
If you and the Swedish meatball have as much evidence as you claim, then why
haven't you two filed LEGAL action and claim against the Estate? Why aren't you
going on national TV NOW? You claim that the mental patient has photos of her
and Elvis that was taken after 1977, I mean forget about the spelling on the
stone or Elvis wearing a DEA jogging suit, those photos alone should get you on
any news program that you choose. Why hasn't this happened yet? What's the
hold up? No more excuses or grand proclamations of what you are going to prove
in the future. Either do the legal work necessary to make the challenge to the
Estate or go away.
Bill
Mickey Moran
National television coverage is just a heartbeat away and you are going to
feel foolish when it happens. Everything is in negotiations. Bill Beeny has
already had a couple of spots underway, including the Rosie O'Donnell Show,
however, after a phone call from Graceland, Rosie backed out. hmmm...Go
figure.
MoonOOO
>
> Will you at least act like you have some sense? If Lisa Johansen's book
>had any falseties between it's covers, there would have already been a law
>suit. Only it would have been EPE initiating the suit, NOT Lisa Johansen.
>Your lack of intelligence and common sense is why you were passed up for
>promotion by Elvis and Vernon.
>
>
>Mickey Moran
Dimwit,
Was there a lawsuit against Lucy DeBarbin? No! And there won't be against the
swedish phony either, Lisa Marie and Priscilla are not interested in giving
this scam artist any credibility, nor do they have to prove anything to you or
anyone else. Face it you demented idiot!
As for the so-called promotion I didn't get, I already held the highest
position in the organization, what was the next level to be promoted
to--ELVIS??????????????????
Mickey you keep making a fool of yourself every time you post.
Marty
AND NOW ALLOW ME TO SHARE WITH ALL OF YOU THE EMAIL MICKEY THE DIMWIT JUST SENT
ME. THIS GUY IS REALLY SOMETHIN' ELSE!
-------------------------------------------------------------
Subj: FWD: PLEASE DON'T MAKE SO MUCH FUSS!!!
Date: 6/22/99 4:53:57 PM CDT
From: Sivle nora
To: MoonOOO
Marty,
Please check out the following email that I received from Graceland.
Check out the headers so you know I didn't make it up.
Subj: PLEASE DON'T MAKE SO MUCH FUSS!!!
Date: 6/1/99 3:50:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: ad...@elvis-presley.com
Reply-to: ad...@elvis-presley.com
To: elvisi...@cyberdude.com
Mickey, I am aware of your site and I love your dedication!
Please don't make so much fuss about it but you will be proven right on the
day after Lisa Marie releases her record.
Why do you think we started the 'Elvis The Concert'? It's just the warm-up
for the real show.
Your Friend.
E
Mickey Moran
up for promotion, just write to Charlie Hodge. He's the one that told me. Of
course, that was in person where I knew for sure it was Charlie. Who knows if
this guy is really Marty? By the way, Marty, thanks for posting the letter on
here that I got from Graceland. It saved me the trouble of doing it.
Mickey Moran
>lost
>it.
>
>"E" has sent an email to Mickey, who forwarded it to Marty. Now, "E" is who ?
>Eggbert, the faithful email boy at EPE ? So Eggbert sent the email to
>Mickey, who
>forwarded it Marty who posted it to the newsgroup. The real-fake Lisa-Marie
>is
>recording an album in the studio for relase next year. The fake real
>Lisa-Marie has
>written a book and visited the real Graceland. Meanwhile, the supposedly
>ex-husband
>of the real-fake Lisa Marie, Whacko-jacko, is having trouble selling tickets
>for
>his show out in Korea. The real-real (unless somebody else claims the job)
>Priscilla runs EPE. "E" has sent an email to Mickey who sent it to Marty who
>posted
>it to AEK. The fake real Lisa Marie wants some kind of NA test to prove that
>she is
>the real-real Lisa Marie. Some people think Marty is not the real Marty. I
>know I
>am the real Martin, so I am certainly not the fake Marty. If Elvis goes on
>tour via
>video screen, and Eggbert the email boy sends emails to Mickey, Marty is real
>and I
>am also real...who the heck is the real Lisa Marie and why does Leslie
>Nielsen
>still have so much hair? He's like 80 years old. And why is whacko-Jacko so
>white? Can you breathe oxygen in space while going on a spacecraft headed for
>space. And why is Jordan's new chatroom not about Michael Jordan ? Or is
>Micheal
>Jordan really Eggbert the faithful email boy at EPE ? Or is Micheal Jordan's
>new
>perfume really a way to promote Elvis' return ? But if Elvis is really dead,
>why
>didn't they have airplanes fly over-head at his funeral ? Maybe because
>Cadillac
>don't make airplanes ? Maybe Elvis isn't dead and lives at the fake
>Graceland,
>because the real Graceland was a place to fool the fans for 40 years. Perhaps
>Eggbert ran the place. If Elvis saved RCA in 1977 by falling off the toilet,
>doesn't he own BMG now, too ? Wouldn't that mean he'd be fabulously rich ?
>And
>just maybe the fake Graceland is Michael Jackson's Neverland ranch ?
>
>I tell you folks: I JUST DON'T GET IT !!!!!!!!!!
>
>Martin
Martin,
I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. Thank you. I think you have
it all wrapped up in a nutshell. However, a rather huge nutshell. This
newsgroup has been needing some good humor.
Mary Stonebraker
it, I may be singed but once on the other side I am home free.
Mary Stonebraker
you just say when and front the money for those test and we have a touch
down.
Mary Stonebraker
HOMELESS. THERE ARE NO SCHOOLS DOWNTOWN UNDERSTAND THAT. AS FAR AS JOBS
IF YOU CALL STANDING OUT ON A CORNER WITH A SIGN SAYING WILL WORK FOR
FOOD A JOB THEN DOWNTOWN IS A GREAT PLACE LOTS OF TRAFFIC. IF THESE
FOLD FIND JOBS DO YOU THINK THEY ARE THE KIND TO HAVE OFFICE JOBS. THAT
IS MOSTLY WHAT YOU FIND DOWNTOWN. ELVIS SAID IT BEST IN ONE OF HIS
MOVIES, FUN IN ALCAPULCO, WE CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON THE FOREIGHNERS TO
POINT OUT OUR MISTAKES.
Mary Stonebraker
daughter like this?
Mary Stonebraker
DISGUISE
MoonOOO
>passed
>up for promotion, just write to Charlie Hodge. He's the one that told me.
>Of
>course, that was in person where I knew for sure it was Charlie. Who knows
>if
>this guy is really Marty? By the way, Marty, thanks for posting the letter
>on
>here that I got from Graceland. It saved me the trouble of doing it.
>
>
>Mickey Moran
Well, now we have it, Charlie the alchohol brain,told Mickey all about me. Now
that's a credible source. You still didn't answer my question Dimwit, what was
the promotion, to become Elvis?
Yeah Mickey, I'm a fraud and you're superman. Ya' wanta check my DNA?
Marty
MoonOOO
Martin,
You have figured it all out. The phony Lisa and the Elvis Is Alive fiasco is
just another publicity stunt perpetrated on the public by Michael Jackson.
Mickey is really the freak's chimp, Bubbles. The fake swedish Lisa is LaToya
with her face bleached and Bill Beanie is really Tito Jackson.
And I am really Marshall Dillon.
Marty
MoonOOO
>
> National television coverage is just a heartbeat away and you are going
>to
>feel foolish when it happens. Everything is in negotiations. Bill Beeny has
>already had a couple of spots underway, including the Rosie O'Donnell Show,
>however, after a phone call from Graceland, Rosie backed out. hmmm...Go
>figure.
>
>
>Mickey Moran
Hey Bill,
Let me know when you begin to feel foolish.
That national spot will be either chocolate
syrup or gravy. Mickey and Beanie Boy drool a lot.
Gee, Rosie doesn't know what she's missing, but then again, maybe she does.
The very Real, DNA proven Marty, Lacker that is!
Mary Stonebraker
peoples lives. He writes a magazine doesn't he? Doesn the fans pay him
or who?
Mary Stonebraker
Did he fake his death and is hiding in Argentina?
Mary Stonebraker
story. Just watch.
Mary Stonebraker
Swedish Lisa Marie? He also knows that she is real. Why it didn't
matter when Jimmy sold his items? He isn't family and I did mind that
he sold the collection, because he said he never would sell the car that
Elvis gave him. People have sold Elvis off piece by piece I think it is
time it stopped.
Bill
MoonOOO wrote:
Marty, why do I have a feeling that the conversation went like this:
Beeny: Um, Hello, I know the real Lisa Marie Presley and would like you to put
her on the show.
Show Producer: Really? Let me put you on hold a second.
(puts Beeny on hold)
Producer: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
(takes Beeny off of hold)
Producer: Yeah ok, we'll call you up with a show date.
Beeny: Great thanks!
By the way, let me share with you an email that I got yesterday:
Subj: A Favor
Date: 6/22/99 4:40:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: abb...@aol.com
Reply-to: abb...@aol.com
To: batc...@ibm.net
When you are talking about Elvis being alive, please don't compare it to the cover
up of Paul McCartney's death and replacement by a double. We've been able to
deflect serious investigations into this for 30 years and you aren't helping.
Thanks mate. Oh, and tell Marty hi for us. Even with the pot smoking and
Maharishi, we fondly remember him.
G & R
Bill
Mok...@webtv.net
ELVISM...@webtv.net >(Mary Stonebraker) Re: Lisa Marie Fake
Did he fake his death and is hiding in Argentina?
..............................................................LOL-I
don't know..Someone mention him somewhere...I think Elvis is teaching
Jim Jones to sing Hound Dog in Argentina..
Mok...@webtv.net
only daughter- sweden-Lisa Marie...Elvis would not let this
happen..Mickey, why doesn't he come forward??? Elvis has not contacted
his daughter in 22 years??? I would never believe that. So,this means
Elvis is dead...
Peach
Peach
Mary Stonebraker <ELVISM...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:8634-377...@newsd-171.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
Marie
 |
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Unknown
> >
>
>
> Mary,
>
> Let me be as kind as I can, the supposed Lisa from Sweden is a phony. Lois was
> hardly ever around Elvis, so I fail to see what memories she could share with
> the fake Lisa. You need to get off of this DNA nonsense. Nobody owes you or
> anyone else an explanation, no less a DNA test.
>
> This girl from Sweden needs to be careful because she's bordering on fraud and
> the more she keeps pushing it, the more she might end up behind bars. SHE'S
> NOT ELVIS' DAUGHTER AND ELVIS IS NOT ALIVE.
>
> You claim to be on Elvis' side, yet by spouting this nonsense you are doing him
> and his memory a dis-service. You really need to just enjoy his music and
> movies and then get a life of your own.
>
> As for Elvis' personal things being auctioned, it's not the first time and it
> won't be the last. Much of his stuff has been sold off or auctioned over the
> years. That is the business of EPE not your's or anyone else's business. It's
> privately owned. Just by selling stuff he owned does not diminish Elvis or his
> memory in any way.
>
> All this nonsense of the Lisa from Sweden and Elvis Is Alive is just that
> nonsense. For you to be a part of it is very sad and just diminishes your
> image, if you have one. You come on here talking about your credibility and
> wanting to be friends with everyone and I can tell you that your messages
> regarding this subject will result in people thinking you're a nutcase.
>
> Lisa Marie is the girl I saw when she was born and grew up. Unfortunately she
> did a few things like marrying Michael Jackson that would make her father very
> unhappy. It is that girl who is the real and only Lisa marie, not this poor,
> pitiful soul from Sweden.
>
> You asked and that's my answer.
>
> Marty
Marty,
That was a great response. You got your point across clearly and
forcefully, but you did it without ripping her a new you know what, as
you are sometimes wont to do.It's a much more productive way to do it.
garth
Martin Genz
MoonOOO wrote:
Am I the only one who has no idea what is going on anymore ? I think I have lost
Mickey Moran
>Now
>that's a credible source. You still didn't answer my question Dimwit, what
>was
>the promotion, to become Elvis?
>
>Yeah Mickey, I'm a fraud and you're superman. Ya' wanta check my DNA?
>
>Marty
According to Charlie, Foreman. And..., NO!!!!, I wouldn't get close to
your DNA.
MoonOOO
>>Now
>>that's a credible source. You still didn't answer my question Dimwit, what
>>was
>>the promotion, to become Elvis?
>>
>>Yeah Mickey, I'm a fraud and you're superman. Ya' wanta check my DNA?
>>
>>Marty
>
> According to Charlie, Foreman. And..., NO!!!!, I wouldn't get close to
>your DNA.
>
>
>Mickey Moran
Dimwit,
Another answer that shows your ignorance when it comes to things about Elvis, I
was the Foreman! Dimwit!
marty
MoonOOO
Gee, that's nice of them but I'll bet they really said, "Duh, where are we?
Were we really The Beatles?
I've known about Paul for many years, I secretly dug him up and checked BNA.
Marty
avku...@my-deja.com
I applaud you for your courage for trying to
bring the truth to the public eye.
I read the book and I firmly beleive that Lisa
Marie Presley Johansen is the real Lisa Marie
Presley. The evidence presented in the book
speaks for itself.
The only reason that people say that the fake
Lisa, Mrs. Jackson, resembles Elvis, is due to
the plastic surgery she has had over the years.
This is evident in the photos that have been
published of her since she was 18. Her appearance
changes by the years, and you can clearly see the
progression of plastic surgery.
The only reason EPE denies that Lisa Marie
Presley Johansen is the REAL Lisa, is because
they have been bought off by the church of
scientology. They are all on the take.
I will support any DNA petition, and I'm sure my
friends will as well. Let the truth prevail, and
we pray that Lisa will be able to regain her
identity.
Keep up the good work!
AV Kurant
In article <6263-376E4F8C-19@newsd-
171.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
ELVISM...@webtv.net (Mary Stonebraker)
wrote:
> I really don't know how to say this and maybe I
shouldn't but I really
> have to. The Lisa Marie that all of us have
seen in pictures is not the
> real girl. Oh yes I know that you will say
that she looks so much like
> Elvis and yes there is a reason for that also,
facial surgery. I know I
> will get a lot of flack from all of you, but I
can assure you that it is
> true. From this point forward I will refer to
the fake as Mrs Jackson
> and the real one as the Lisa from Sweden. Not
more than a month ago
> Lois Smith and I meet with this Lisa Marie, she
flew from Sweden to just
> visit with her aunt. They had a very long talk
and had the very same
> remembrances of when Elvis left the building in
1977. This Lisa has
> meet with Priscilla here in Memphis and has
asked for a DNA to prove who
> she is and Priscilla will not give it to her.
In 1977, Priscilla, took
> Lisa to Europe to go to school where she would
be safe from kidnap
> attempts, somewhere along the line the
Scientology Church took over and
> Lisa was abandoned in Sweden. For 10 years she
has tried to recover her
> name, I am told she is sent enough money from
Graceland to live a normal
> life, this girl has never had a job and has
always been supported. With
> the fans help she can save her fathers things
from this auction and if
> we sign enough petitions we can take them into
court and hopefully the
> judge will order Priscilla to take the DNA
test. Scientology is taking
> over Graceland and Elvis and Lisa need your
support. Now I know I will
> probably get a lot of flack, but I hope not
because before this auction
> there should be a lot of coverage on this. I
will not fight any fan for
> what they believe but I will post what I think
is necessary for the fans
> and public in general to be aware of what is
currently taking place and
> what you can do to help. Our Swedish Lisa has
sent a statement to the
> fans and it is as follows: What is now
occurring in my name is a
> disgrace. It is an offence against my father,
his family and his fans.
> Also to the people of America and our history.
It is my wish and hope
> that the grace and dignity my father and his
legacy deserves will be
> restored, so that people in the future as well
as in the past can take
> part in his greatness and be inspired. LISA
MARIE PRESLEY aka
> LESA JOHANSEN
> If you can help Lisa and Elvis with a petition
please e-mail me in
> private or if you can think of anything else
that we can do. Elvis and
> Lisa Marie are counting on your support.
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
RADIOCOWBY
>daughter like this?
>
He'd be turning over in his grave Mary...
But it's the Swedish Fake that would cause it.
RADIOCOWBY
>it, I may be singed but once on the other side I am home free.
Once on the other side Mary there is NO WAY back...
RADIOCOWBY
fact that these idiots need to be set straight.
Elvis is Dead, Long Live Lisa Marie!
Bill,
> We appreciate your candor and I personally feel that this Lisa Marie
>Johansen
>should be "bitch-slapped". It is a ridiculous waste of time that we should
>even
>have to think seriously about this topic. Why the hell didn't this chick
>come
>forward years ago? No excuse, except bull-shit! Twenty-two years after his
>death, people are still gullible, insensitive and full of shit. TCB Bill.
>BTW,
>did you ever get my yo-yo back from Vernon before he died?
>--
>TCB-Tom......Promoting Elvis - Artist of the Century!
> .....take it home son!
>
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>Bill Burk wrote:
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>> I have tried (with much success) NOT to post here publicly because of the
>> absurdities of many of the threads. But when "I" am being quoted in some
>of
>> this crap, I feel I have to set the record straight.
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>> Yes, there was "an interview." I reported an UNCONFIRMED situation,
>stating
>> it was unconfirmed. I never mentioned "highest paid jobs" or that anyone
>> was being shipped into Memphis from LA.
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>> How many times since July 1998 have I kicked myself in the ass for agreeing
>> to that "interview" in the first place. Yet, it happened and I chose not
>to
>> print (or to reveal in public) the contents of what all was said by all
>> parties during a 3+ hour face-off!
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>> This marks twice in recent weeks "I" have had my private quotes stretched
>to
>> the Nth degree. Isn't privacy honored any more? And if we invade a
>> person's privacy, don't we have the responsibility to at least report the
>> FACTS straight?
>>
>> I am just off the phone today after 90 minutes with People Magazine TV on
>> this same subject. It seems Lisa Marie Johansen's publicist had threatened
>> People that unless they ran her story, claiming "sinister forces" were now
>> in charge of EPE and running Graceland, keeping Johansen from inherting
>what
>> is "rightfully" hers, said publicist was going to hold a press conference
>> and tell the world that People is part of the subversion plot to take over
>> Graceland !!!
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>> WHY the threat? The effort to intimidate?
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>> This is FACT . . . not he said / she said.
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>> I ask you all to consider the following:
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>> 1. Elvis is DEAD ! Alive in our hearts forever, maybe, but he's DEAD!
>>
>> 2. Lisa Marie Presley, the one who married Mikey Jackson, is the REAL
>> Lisa Marie Presley. There are too many friends and family members here in
>> Memphis who will testify to that, if pushed hard enough. Yet most choose to
>> stay out of it because of the absurdity of the claims. I mean, who needs
>> this?
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>> 3. DNA testing at the request of a Swedish Lisa Marie? This is like the
>> requests of some to dig up Elvis' body for a DNA test.
>> Folks, this is a PRIVATE family. Put yourself in their shoes. What right
>> does anyone have to ask/demand a DNA test? Just because fans bought Elvis'
>> records don't give them the right to ask/demand DNA tests. Why don't we
>> demand we dig up Lisa Marie Johansen's birth parents and perform DNA on
>them
>> in Sweden? What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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>> 4. Selling Elvis' things at auction. First, most of the stuff listed to
>> date is insignificant items from the Parker collection. Second, when our
>> good friend Jimmy Velvet was selling off all those Elvis-owned things (he
>> got from family members), where was the hue and cry THEN that this was
>wrong
>> . . . that everything had to be preserved for the fans?
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>> Butterfield & Butterfield, Guernseys and even Bonham -- all noted auction
>> houses -- have sold off jumpsuits, cars, all kinds of personal Elvis
>> memorabilia in recent years and NEVER has there been an uprising amongst
>the
>> fans because they were being sold and, presumably, being taken away from
>the
>> fans. The only complaints I heard about those auctions were from fans who
>> did not bid high enough to get an item.
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>> As I do each time I come on-line publicly, I apologize for entering into
>> this, but there are just times when I "have" to speak out.
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>> Anyone who E-mails me privately knows what I am about. I am just not a
>> "public" person, particularly among certain "audiences."
>>
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RADIOCOWBY
>Presley daughter of Elvis being the same girl who appeared on stage in
>Memphis on August 16th 1997.
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Ditto Anne and that we will.
Compare the photos... this Swede chick looks nothing like the young Lisa....
nothing at all.... She looks more like my cousin in Fresno who is Danish not
Swedish....
Lisa Marie Presley who runs Graceland with her Mother looks identical to the
pictures, too Elvis and from many angles to her mother. Why should Priscilla
give a DNA Test she's sitting there laughing her ass off.
RADIOCOWBY
gift with stipulations. It was Jimmys to do with as he saw fit. You told me
these were personal items that Lisa was auctioning off. Elvis left them then
to Lisa without stipulation and it is her right to do with them as she sees
fit... It is none of your god damned business....
RADIOCOWBY
>THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>Marty
Alright Marty convince me that ignoring the problem will make it go away.
Letting rumours fester turns into a boiling pot.
Let it be known that these folks are brainless.... Letting them continue
without response is letting them get away with murder.
RADIOCOWBY
>>was
>>hardly ever around Elvis, so I fail to see what memories she could share
>with
>>the fake Lisa. You need to get off of this DNA nonsense. Nobody owes you
>or
>>anyone else an explanation, no less a DNA test.
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>Elvis' son and I demand my portion of the fortune", EPE would demand a DNA
>test
Like hell they would, then every Tom Dick and Harry would do the same thing
over and over again. Of course you'd be the first Dick to try it.
>to prove that I am who I say I am. Otherwise, they would be admitting that I
>am who I say I am. Which is exactly what they are doing with Lisa Johansen.
>The reason I'm not saying I'm Elvis' son and demanding my part is because I
>know I would be proven to be a fraud. Lisa knows that she will not be proven
>a
>fraud and so does EPE which is why they won't do the DNA testing.
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>>This girl from Sweden needs to be careful because she's bordering on fraud
>>and
>>the more she keeps pushing it, the more she might end up behind bars. SHE'S
>>NOT ELVIS' DAUGHTER AND ELVIS IS NOT ALIVE.
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> I can't wait until the day when I can go on national television and rub
>this in your face.
Like that will be the day!
You need something rubbed in your face alright.
RADIOCOWBY
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> National television coverage is just a heartbeat away and you are going
>to
>feel foolish when it happens. Everything is in negotiations. Bill Beeny has
>already had a couple of spots underway, including the Rosie O'Donnell Show,
>however, after a phone call from Graceland, Rosie backed out. hmmm...Go
>figure.
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>http://www.elvisalive.com/
>http://forums.bruin.net/cgi-bin/fbn/fbn.cgi/bruin.action.elvis.is.alive
>http://apps.vantagenet.com/aforums/thread.asp?id=1999520204313
>Join the 'Elvis Is King' Webring at www.elvisalive.com/webring.htm
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RADIOCOWBY
>story. Just watch.
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Big Deal Mary,
National Enquire, Star News, Hustler?
Anyone can create a story but not one of you will prove a thing...
RADIOCOWBY
Mickey, I am aware of your site and I love your dedication!
Please don't make so much fuss about it but you will be proven right on the
day after Lisa Marie releases her record.
Why do you think we started the 'Elvis The Concert'? It's just the warm-up
for the real show.
Your Friend.
E
Why have you deceived us so.
Your total unfaithfulness to our love as fans has been betrayed....
This was a terrible and cruel thing to do to the world.
It is terribly worse than Clintons affair with Monica and can not be
forgiven...
Your ex friend
emailed to :
ad...@elvis-presley.com
RADIOCOWBY
>position in the organization, what was the next level to be promoted
>to--ELVIS??????????????????
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That's the answer Marty is really Elvis!
Way to go E...
RADIOCOWBY
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>Martin
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It's easy Martin ,
The real Graceland is Neverland in California. That's why Michael married Lisa
so she could be closer to her father.
But he really married the one in Sweden...
that's how she got all that money she lives off of. Michael turned white from
listening to all the bullshit about Elvis being alive I think.
RADIOCOWBY
>this guy is really Marty?
Here's another clue for you all.
Koo Koo Ka Choo!
RADIOCOWBY
>you just say when and front the money for those test and we have a touch
>down.
Just have her call Rosie Odonell Im sure she'll foot the bill....
MomO2Boys
>daughter like this?
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I thought you believed Elvis is alive and IF HE IS ALIVE...why IS he allowing
his "daughter" to be treated like this?
Willowtoot
>Swedish Lisa Marie? He a
Mary, do you wonder why people like bill burk and marty and jordan are so upset
that the girl in Sweden claims to be Lisa Marie. If they think it is so
ridiculous why do they even bother to comment. She is sane, intelligent, a
devoted mother and she has had no plastic surgery to look like her father.
Thank you for trying to help her and I hope people will keep an open mind.
Willow
Ellekraft
I am a friend of Lisa Marie Presley aka Lisa Johansen.I do not understand how
you dare speak about Lisa this way after what her father did for you,and
Mr.Lacker your language is very poor.I think you and the rest of your so called
Mafia missunderstood your positions at Graceland.You think you where like
celebrities because you where hanging on Elvis,you all where on him like cheap
suits.He provided you with everything you needed and much more and without him
you all would have worked 9-5 at some regular job.And then you all trashed him
as a thank you.What you all were and i mean all you were was his EMPLOYERS,dont
forget that.And to compare yourself that the next level for you would have been
to be ELVIS.You have to be kidding me?You are as far away as you can come to
being like Elvis.Where you with Priscilla when she took Lisa to Europe in
-77.No you where not and you know why you where not even informed about
it?Because it was a family matter,security problems and you where just an
employee and there was no reason to inform the employees about family
matters.Lisa has a lot of proof of who she is and a lot of family and friends
of Elvis has meet with her and is helping her to come back home.So Marty,why
are you so concerned about Lisa coming back home?You are taking this very
personally for some reason.Believe me Lisa has no plans what so ever to contact
you.So there is really nothing for you to be concerned about.Hey Marty when was
the last time you spoke to Mrs Jackson?Or went over to her home?Or just picked
up the phone to chat with her?No ,i didnt think so.....I am not going to waste
more time to write to you.. Elle
MoonOOO
Thank you Ms. Einstein for that very intellectual message.
I know it's probably hard for you to comprehend what I have written in terms of
the next level being Elvis, but try real hard. You'll understand some day.
Now would you care to share your real identity, you know the one you use when
you usually show up here to display your dazzling ignorance?
Marty The Celebrity
MoonOOO
>>daughter like this?
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>But it's the Swedish Fake that would cause it.
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Lisa,
Where've you been?
Marty
Ellekraft
I am a personal friend of Lisa Marie Presley aka Lisa Johansen.She has never
been to an institution or diagnosed as being delusional or suffering from
Paranoid Schitzophrenia.What is the name of the Institution you claim she has
been to and where is this Institution located?What country and whats the name
of the city?
A person grown up in New York that later on moves to California and who lives
there for lets say 10 years will even pick up on an accent.Moving out of a
country does that to you as well,but you never forget your native language that
is why Lisa talks
fluent English,even thu she lives in Europe.A European just dont come to the
States and start talking fluent English.
I dont know who you are trying to fool when you say she does not look like
Elvis or Priscilla,a lot of people has laught at you comment today,and they all
suggest that if you are sincere you should go see
an eye doctor.The truth is hard to grasp isnt it? Elle
.
MoonOOO
Yes, Eddie but the real question for them is, "how many magazines can they
carry?"
Some of them can use the space their brains are supposed to be, probably
carry----- maybe ten or twenty,
What a world!
Marty
RADIOCOWBY
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>Peach
I'll bet he can... that's what makes it pure hell! He can hear him but can't
be with him... I think that's Mickeys problem also.
RADIOCOWBY
is indeed hard to grasp and you can't grasp it evidently. No ones laughing at
Martin...
Any body with even a small brain can see she looks nothing like Elvis. Oh wait
yes just about as much as Elvis is sitting in the backseat of a car with Jesse
Jackson..
Photo gimicks wont even do HER justice.