ELVIS ORIGINAL ??? 14K GOLD TCB PENDANT NECKLACE COA T.C.B
Shazam/TCB
// Mr. T
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15157&item=4937062383
&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW&tc=photo
Without doing any serious research I'd say this looks like a "real copy", to
use that term. But please note that this posting is not some sort of
authentication in any way.
BTW, the magazine, "Elvis, An American Legend", which the "This was Elvis'
Pendant" article is lifted from states that Aunt Delta had a TCB.
(Supposedly sold for unbelievable $63.000!!!) I would've figured Elvis
presented her with a TLC instead of a TCB...?
--
Tormod
SouthPaw
TCB...or likely someone using another dead person's name that can't be
traced back to them.
"// Mr. T" <tor...@tcbb.noREMOVE-THIS-AND-ONE-B-TO-EMAIL> wrote in message
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TRafferty
these for Elvis. But what is the difference between the pendants and
chain?
This might be for Marty,
It doesn't seem like Elvis would ever get that hung up on these
subtle, indistinct differences, or would he???
SouthPaw
had a very pointed lightening bolt, Hays had thick bolt. The chain evolved
over time from a hand made chain to a machine chain, 24 inches in length.
Some people added diamonds to the letters and the lightening bolts, some
also had a clasp added to the chain.
S&A are no longer in business though Greg Ablessor is still in business, he
will from time to time make a special TCB or TLC. Lowell Hays is retired but
his son Price continues the tradition, most of the TCB's in the market came
from his. I own both a 1970 S&A and 1976 Hays as well as a Diamond Roberts
TCB, laid on top of each other the only differences is the lightening bolts.
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MARTY
"SouthPaw" <Sout...@elvis.com> wrote in message
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> Each jeweler has/had subtle differences in their own making of the TCB,
S&A
> had a very pointed lightening bolt, Hays had thick bolt. The chain evolved
> over time from a hand made chain to a machine chain, 24 inches in length.
> Some people added diamonds to the letters and the lightening bolts, some
> also had a clasp added to the chain.
>
> S&A are no longer in business though Greg Ablessor is still in business,
he
> will from time to time make a special TCB or TLC. Lowell Hays is retired
but
> his son Price continues the tradition, most of the TCB's in the market
came
> from his. I own both a 1970 S&A and 1976 Hays as well as a Diamond Roberts
> TCB, laid on top of each other the only differences is the lightening
bolts.
There is another difference that some of us know about, especially the
original S&A TCB's.
That shall remain our knowledge.
Marty
TRafferty
>
> There is another difference that some of us know about, especially the
> original S&A TCB's.
>
> That shall remain our knowledge.
>
> Marty
Thanks Marty,
I remember you stating that before.
But, would Elvis ever get that hung up on these subtle differences between jewelers?
// Mr. T
> Each jeweler has/had subtle differences in their own making of the
> TCB, S&A had a very pointed lightening bolt, Hays had thick bolt. The
> chain evolved over time from a hand made chain to a machine chain, 24
> inches in length. Some people added diamonds to the letters and the
> lightening bolts, some also had a clasp added to the chain.
I'd just like to add that sometimes Elvis gave away diamond (and/or other
jewels) encrusted TCB's as well, although most of the times the owner did
this on his/hers own initiative and costs afterwards. I don't think S&A ever
made jewels encrusted TCBs, as far as I know this was only done by Hays. I
believe that many, perhaps most that did, had this done after Elvis' death,
as far as I know, e.g Charlie Hodge. Among those that did receive diamond
encrusted TCBs was, again - as far as I know, e.g Earl Pritchett.
> S&A are no longer in business though Greg Ablessor is still in
> business, he will from time to time make a special TCB or TLC. Lowell
> Hays is retired but his son Price continues the tradition, most of
> the TCB's in the market came from his. I own both a 1970 S&A and 1976
> Hays as well as a Diamond Roberts TCB, laid on top of each other the
> only differences is the lightening bolts.
I didn't know Greg Ablesser is/was making TCBs nowadays, as far as I've
heard the original S&A mold was destroyed years ago. Perhaps this
information is wrong, but are you sure he uses the same mold?
About the Roberts TCBs, those was larger than the S&A and Hays TCBs. Dennis
Roberts made 15 larger TCB pendants for Elvis for Christmas in 1971 (I know
I said 1974 in a previous post, but 1971 is the correct year). He gave them
all away... One was given to Lamar Fike, one to Sammy Davis Jr., one to Tome
Jones, etc... If the one you have is just about the same size as the S&A and
Hays this is not from the same mold that he made the ones for Elvis, but
probably a copy of the S&A TCB that Elvis supposedly gave Roberts a few days
after he had the first TCBs made up for his closest entourage.
If you don't mind me asking, who did originally have the TCBs you now own?
--
Tormod
Marty
No at that point he was more interested in convenience and quickness
so he bought them from the person , either S&A or Lowell depending
where he was at the time.
Marty
Dawn in Memphis
>From: "// Mr. T" tor...@tcbb.noREMOVE-THIS-AND-ONE-B-TO-EMAIL
>Date: 10/30/2004 12:42 PM
>Among those that did receive diamond
>encrusted TCBs was, again - as far as I know, e.g Earl Pritchett.
>
Donna Early sold this supposed genuine piece to a lady in the UK for 5,000. It
has been found to be a fake with plaster stones.
Susie Pritchett has also stated that Earl was never given a TCB.
The owner was promised a refund from the Earlys..............yea right!
She's been waiting a long time and has been quite patient about the entire
ordeal.
Shazam/TCB
;) I wonder how many members of Memphis Mafia sold their necklace. (I know
the case of Jerry Schilling and maybe Lamar? (not really sure). If i was a
member of the Memphis Mafia, i'm sure that I would not sell this necklace,
but you can have many different reasons ... The TCB is now become a symbol.
I am curious to know their opinion about the symbolism of this necklace.Is
it still important for them, to wear the necklace today? or this is just a
great gift they got from a Good Friend which they are happy to have
received. Maybe Marty can send his opinion? ;)
"Dawn in Memphis" <freed...@aol.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
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SouthPaw
like to see if I am correct. Thanks.
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>
TRafferty
>
> No at that point he was more interested in convenience and quickness
> so he bought them from the person , either S&A or Lowell depending
> where he was at the time.
>
> Marty
Thanks Marty.
As you have always tried to explain. Elvis, although a thousand times
more charismatic and talented, was just as human as the rest of us.
MARTY
"Shazam/TCB" <vinc...@videotron.ca> wrote in message
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> Anyway... the only solution is to buy the necklace at the authentic
sources.
> ;) I wonder how many members of Memphis Mafia sold their necklace. (I know
> the case of Jerry Schilling and maybe Lamar? (not really sure). If i was a
> member of the Memphis Mafia, i'm sure that I would not sell this necklace,
> but you can have many different reasons ... The TCB is now become a
symbol.
> I am curious to know their opinion about the symbolism of this necklace.Is
> it still important for them, to wear the necklace today? or this is just a
> great gift they got from a Good Friend which they are happy to have
> received. Maybe Marty can send his opinion? ;)
Most of us that I know do not wear the necklace. People like Klein wear it
when they are around Elvis fans to make themselves feel special.
Most of us don't need any material things to remind us of Elvis and our
years of friendship and brotherhood with him. We think of him every day.
Marty
Shazam/TCB
:)
"MARTY" <moon...@bellsouth.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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// Mr. T
>> Among those that did receive diamond
>> encrusted TCBs was, again - as far as I know, e.g Earl Pritchett.
>
>>
>
> Donna Early sold this supposed genuine piece to a lady in the UK for
> 5,000. It has been found to be a fake with plaster stones.
> Susie Pritchett has also stated that Earl was never given a TCB.
> The owner was promised a refund from the Earlys..............yea
> right!
> She's been waiting a long time and has been quite patient about the
> entire ordeal.
>
> Dawn
> www.altelvisking.com
Dawn, sad story...
Is it the same TCB as mentioned below...?
"Elvis asked his Uncle Earl to transport his new white Stutz to California
as a gift for Dr. Gannem. Earl's truck broke down and during the trip. Elvis
offered to buy him a new one which Earl refused. Very few people ever
refused an offer or a gift from Elvis. Elvis rewarded Earl with this great
TCB and had Earl's name engraved on the back, "Uncle Earl". The TCB features
11 diamonds set into the TCB, which very few were made this way. The chain
has no clasp, it was designed by Elvis this way to symbolize continuos
friendship and loyalty. Elvis always made it a point to wear his TCB before
giving it away, he then would take it off and place it around the neck of
the recipient. Elvis and Priscilla designed the TCB and they were only given
to close friends and family. Comes with a letter of authenticity from Elvis
uncle Earl telling of its history. Price $10000"
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Tormod
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Dawn in Memphis
>From: "// Mr. T" tor...@tcbb.noREMOVE-THIS-AND-ONE-B-TO-EMAIL
>Dawn, sad story...
>Is it the same TCB as mentioned below...?
>
>"Elvis asked his Uncle Earl to transport his new white Stutz to California
>as a gift for Dr. Gannem. Earl's truck broke down and during the trip. Elvis
>offered to buy him a new one which Earl refused. Very few people ever
>refused an offer or a gift from Elvis. Elvis rewarded Earl with this great
>TCB and had Earl's name engraved on the back, "Uncle Earl". The TCB features
>11 diamonds set into the TCB, which very few were made this way. The chain
>has no clasp, it was designed by Elvis this way to symbolize continuos
>friendship and loyalty. Elvis always made it a point to wear his TCB before
>giving it away, he then would take it off and place it around the neck of
>the recipient. Elvis and Priscilla designed the TCB and they were only given
>to close friends and family. Comes with a letter of authenticity from Elvis
>uncle Earl telling of its history. Price $10000"
>
>--
>Tormod
>
Tormod,
Where did the above quoted passage come from?
Thanks.
// Mr. T
>
>> Dawn, sad story...
>> Is it the same TCB as mentioned below...?
>>
>> "Elvis asked his Uncle Earl to transport his new white Stutz to
>> California as a gift for Dr. Gannem. Earl's truck broke down and
>> during the trip. Elvis offered to buy him a new one which Earl
>> refused. Very few people ever refused an offer or a gift from Elvis.
>> Elvis rewarded Earl with this great TCB and had Earl's name engraved
>> on the back, "Uncle Earl". The TCB features 11 diamonds set into the
>> TCB, which very few were made this way. The chain has no clasp, it
>> was designed by Elvis this way to symbolize continuos friendship and
>> loyalty. Elvis always made it a point to wear his TCB before giving
>> it away, he then would take it off and place it around the neck of
>> the recipient. Elvis and Priscilla designed the TCB and they were
>> only given to close friends and family. Comes with a letter of
>> authenticity from Elvis uncle Earl telling of its history. Price
>> $10000"
>>
>> --
>> Tormod
>>
>
>
> Tormod,
>
> Where did the above quoted passage come from?
> Thanks.
>
>
> Dawn
> www.altelvisking.com
Dawn,
I can't remember the details right now but this TCB was listed for sale
online a while back.