"Great head" comment around '72
David
film he is backstage with the guys around 1972. He jokes with
them..'you know that girl I was with last night, she gave the greatest
head' etc.....
Very funny scene but it struck me as odd that he would say something
like that on film especially a documentary about him (filmed for 'On
Tour' I assume). I'm sure that was normal conversation off film but I
wonder what made him open up in front of the camera. Looked like it
was for shock value because the guys were killing themselves laughing.
Also strange that he only made the 'buried in a beaver' comment
thinking there was no sound in the limo around the same time.
Not really important but it does make me chuckle. Anyone know of any
other blue comments caught on camera?
David.
Daniel
"David" wrote in message ...
> I'm sure that was normal conversation off film but I
> wonder what made him open up in front of the camera.
This was at least partly due to the "medicine" that he was on.
Broadwaychris
>like that on film especially a documentary about him (filmed for 'On
>Tour' I assume). I'm sure that was normal conversation off film but I
>wonder what made him open up in front of the camera. Looked like it
>was for shock value because the guys were killing themselves laughing.
If you watch him and the reaction again, you'll see he verymuch DID IT for the
camera with full faith that no one would ever see it.
Greg Webb
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I think you're right. Do you think Elvis ever thought the public would see
& hear him say "You can't say 'big ass' on this film," as we saw in
"TTWII-SE?"
Or on the other hand, do you think Elvis really cared if the public heard
him talk this way? E said many off-color things at plenty of concerts...I
don't need to give examples here. Maybe it was the drugs talking....but
then again, what if he just didn't mind if the public saw a little bit of
the real Elvis?
Marty, what's your answer to these questions?
Greg
H
People blame almost everything on that. Elvis was having fun and being a
guy. Guys talk like that.
.H.
Greg Webb wrote in message
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Tony
I couldn't believe the Colonel let that remark stay in the film.
Charles Thomas
David wrote:
> I was watching 'This Is Elvis' recently and on one version of this
> film he is backstage with the guys around 1972. He jokes with
> them..'you know that girl I was with last night, she gave the greatest
> head' etc.....
As an audio technician I can tell you one thing for absolute certain. If
you're talking about the scene where Elvis pokes his head back into the
hallway and says something about "That girl I was with last night, boy...
she could wake the dead", or something to that effect... that audio was
clearly dubbed in later. Watch Elvis' mouth and listen to the audio.
They don't match up at all, especially at the end of the phrase.
There are a couple points in the movie where the actual audio was removed
and replaced with dubbed audio (e.g. The female reporter's question at
the '72 MSG press conference about being a "shy country boy").
It is quite likely that in most cases they simply replaced difficult to
hear audio with the exact same phrases re-recorded to be easier to hear.
However, in the case of the line in question, I have my doubts that Elvis
said exactly what you're hearing on the video. Like you I was surprised
he'd say that on camera, and my gut feeling is that it was added later to
"spice things up".
You are all, of course, welcome to your own interpretations.
CT
Greg Webb
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> As an audio technician I can tell you one thing for absolute certain. If
> you're talking about the scene where Elvis pokes his head back into the
> hallway and says something about "That girl I was with last night, boy...
> she could wake the dead", or something to that effect... that audio was
> clearly dubbed in later. Watch Elvis' mouth and listen to the audio.
> They don't match up at all, especially at the end of the phrase.
It's common knowledge that the "raise the dead" line was overdubbed anyway.
The original clip with the REAL audio is in the theatrical/HBO versions of
"This is Elvis." Elvis actually says something like, "she gave great head."
>(e.g. The female reporter's question at
> the '72 MSG press conference about being a "shy country boy").
The actual question: "I hear from a lot of people in the press corps that
you're actually a shy, wonderful human being."
-Greg
H
version) shows the undubbed version with the "buried in a beaver" and "she
gave great head" comment. He clearly says both. The reaction by the guys
proves it as well.
.H.
Greg Webb wrote in message ...
Luuk Bonthond
David <lyall...@hotmail.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
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> I was watching 'This Is Elvis' recently and on one version of this
> film he is backstage with the guys around 1972. He jokes with
> them..'you know that girl I was with last night, she gave the greatest
> head' etc.....
>
> Very funny scene but it struck me as odd that he would say something
> like that on film especially a documentary about him (filmed for 'On
> Tour' I assume). I'm sure that was normal conversation off film but I
> wonder what made him open up in front of the camera. Looked like it
> was for shock value because the guys were killing themselves laughing.
Have a look at Elvis' eyes. He looks like he is saying "I bet a Cadillac or
two that you do not dare to use that in the movie".
regards,
Luuk Bonthond
lfcunw
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charro
He does say that in the dubbed but uncut version of "This is Elvis", The one
thats 144minutes long.
The original is not available to buy in Ireland/UK . Its 97 minutes long and
is not dubbed. They show that one on Tv but you cant buy it.
You obviously have the 144 minutes version on video so if you see This is
Elvis on TV some time soon, record it (if you are a collector)
lfcunw wrote in message ...
Tony
Stephen Leacock
Jason~~
Broadwaychris
>be capable of saying these kinds of things in public and more so in front of
>a camera.
Forgive me Daniel, I don't mean to come off here, but I assumed St. Elvis,
patron Saint of Awshucks - pretty much lives only at the new and improved,
sanitized for your protection Graceland.
C'mon, I know I'm not alone when I say- Elvis was every bit the degenerate I
always hoped he was!
But, he was 1000% sure the world would never hear about the cocksuckers,
motherfuckers, beavers, chicks who gave great head, chick/chick home videos,
piss in every fountain and new, inventive ways to mousse hair.
H
a recording from 1969 and he was not drugged up then . And there was
nothing wrong with talking like that. He was acting like a normal guy. What
guy hasn't talked like that at one time or another? Elvis was not always the
gentlemen he appeared to be in interviews and in public. And it wasn't
because of the drugs. It was because he was human. Anyway's, Elvis knew it
wouldn't be included in "Elvis On Tour" and it wasn't.
.H.
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Molly Quinn
about his sexual conquests, particularly one-night stands. All those
guys hanging around him probably lived vicariously through him. Not
that I don't think he couldn't be the perfect Southern gentlemen when
need be.
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Charles Thomas
Greg Webb wrote:
> It's common knowledge that the "raise the dead" line was overdubbed anyway.
> The original clip with the REAL audio is in the theatrical/HBO versions of
> "This is Elvis." Elvis actually says something like, "she gave great head."
Ahhh! Mystery solved.
I can't state anything about the undubbed version 'cause I've never seen it. I
assumed the 144 min version I have was "uncensored". How odd that it is.
Thanks for the info.
> Your wayyyyyyyyyyyy off the beam!
Ummm.... my what?
Bill
Daniel wrote:
>
> "Molly Quinn" wrote in message ...
>
> > I wholeheartedly agree with you. Elvis was a guy who talked "guy talk"
> > about his sexual conquests, particularly one-night stands. All those
> > guys hanging around him probably lived vicariously through him. Not
> > that I don't think he couldn't be the perfect Southern gentlemen when
> > need be.
>
> With due respect .. this is not the point. Of course Elvis talked "guy
> talk", mosty in private or when he thought no one else but those around him
> would hear like in rehearsals, his home(s), at the movies etc .. but the
> issue here is and I again quote from my earlier post: "Now with the filming
> of "Elvis On Tour" as was the original discussion .. Elvis KNEW the film
> would be used on an official release. He KNEW they were filming EVERYTHING
> so why did he even risk it with the comments he made ?"
>
> Daniel
Maybe because at the time of filming, Elvis understood that such a
statement was no longer shocking to people. Let's face it, it's not
like he turned to the camera and called for the Communist overthrow of
the United States. It was a risque comment that was probably taken that
way by the people who saw the film.
Bill
Bill
IISergioII
wouldn't be included in "Elvis On Tour" and it wasn't" and wrote:
> Yes, it was. In the original "Elvis On Tour", that "great head" comment was
included only to be edited out later on for "This is Elvis". <
I have the "Elvis on Tour" video and the "head" comment is definitely not on
it.
Luuk Bonthond
Daniel <siv...@yahoo.com> schreef in berichtnieuws
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>
> "Molly Quinn" wrote in message ...
>
> > about his sexual conquests, particularly one-night stands. All those
> > guys hanging around him probably lived vicariously through him. Not
> > that I don't think he couldn't be the perfect Southern gentlemen when
> > need be.
>
> talk", mosty in private or when he thought no one else but those around
him
> would hear like in rehearsals, his home(s), at the movies etc .. but the
> issue here is and I again quote from my earlier post: "Now with the
filming
> of "Elvis On Tour" as was the original discussion .. Elvis KNEW the film
> would be used on an official release. He KNEW they were filming EVERYTHING
> so why did he even risk it with the comments he made ?"
>
> Daniel
>
>
Look at Elvis' movement and his eyes when he says that. He acts like "I bet
a Cadillac or two you do not dare to use that in the movie".
Remember the 1956 photo with this very attractive lady? He was followed 24/7
by a photographer hired by The Colonel and on this photo Elvis takes a pose
like "Hey Colonel, dare to ruin my clean cut image?".
In my opinion this was a part of Elvis' sense of humor.
At work I used to do some funny stuff too. I was asked to forward a message
to a lady at company X by one of my collegues. He said to put in the header
"To the very sexy miss ......." in front of a lot of other collegues and the
managing director. This guy turned red in the face when he got the "sent out
message" which indeed had this header. He stumbled and stottered and said I
could not do that. I told him that is what he said to which the managing
director confirmed I had done exactly what this guy had said and that he
could not blame me for doing my job o.k.
This went on a bit and then we all cracked up laughing and I gave this guy
the really "sent out message" and told him he could throw away the fake one.
Representing a company you work for of course you do not give any
telex-message a weird heading. Not even if the managing director would tell
you to.
Elvis' "joke" should be seen in the same light. Just having fun.
regards,
Luuk Bonthond
Daniel
"IISergioII" wrote in message...
> I have the "Elvis on Tour" video and the "head" comment is definitely
not on
> it.
Oh boy, I hope I'm not confusing the "unedited" home version (segment) of
"This is Elvis" with "Elvis on Tour" :( They both had the segment in
question included and so now I wonder if it was in fact in the unedited home
video version of This is Elvis and not Elvis on Tour. I think I'm getting
old.
Daniel
JimmyDeanAngel
epitomy of the perfect southern gentleman who never does wrong and appears to
be a direct descendant of perfection., although many like to believe he could
do no wrong.
"May thou who has no sin cast the first stone."
CatGOD29
>issue here is and I again quote from my earlier post: "Now with the filming
>of "Elvis On Tour" as was the original discussion .. Elvis KNEW the film
>would be used on an official release. He KNEW they were filming EVERYTHING
>so why did he even risk it with the comments he made ?"
>
said as a joke....have you ever seen a goodie reel? That being film consisting
of actors or someone associated with the movie or TV show making a goof,
resulting in another attempt (take) to film the particular scene? Sometimes
it's an unintentional goof but it's never intended to be part of the final
version
Much like some of the alternate takes of songs where Elvis replaces the
original lyrics with X-rated lyrics were intended as jokes. The X-rated version
of "Hurt" was intended as a joke on his father...Elvis telling his dad that was
going to be his next single.
It wasn't drugs or any of that rubbish. If you go back and read some of the
books, you'll find that Elvis liked to joke around on the movie sets, pull
pranks but with "Elvis On Tour," the sets were the stage, backstage, the
limos...Elvis probably didn't think it would be included in the movie, which it
wasn't. He probably didn't think he would die so soon and that those scenes
would be released in a movie about him but they were...and compared to some of
the stories in the news media and books that put Elvis in a negative light, the
outtake from "Elvis On Tour" showed us that Elvis did have fun sometimes.
Stephen Leacock
day.
Jason~~
Daniel wrote:
> "H" wrote in message ...
>
> > Elvis did not say that because he was under the influence of "medicine".
> > People blame almost everything on that. Elvis was having fun and being a
> > guy. Guys talk like that.
>
> I said that this was at least PARTLY due to the "medicine" that he was on.
> Certainly that was not all but completely sober, I don't think Elvis would
Stephen Leacock
words.
Jason~~
Daniel wrote:
> "Broadwaychris" wrote in message ...
>
> > Forgive me Daniel, I don't mean to come off here, but I assumed St. Elvis,
> > patron Saint of Awshucks - pretty much lives only at the new and improved,
> > sanitized for your protection Graceland.
>
> I see what you're saying ..
>
> > C'mon, I know I'm not alone when I say- Elvis was every bit the degenerate
> I
> > always hoped he was!
>
> Yes, he was all too human and that's at least the reason we enjoy him so
> much.
>
> > But, he was 1000% sure the world would never hear about the cocksuckers,
> > motherfuckers, beavers, chicks who gave great head, chick/chick home
> videos,
> > piss in every fountain and new, inventive ways to mousse hair.
>
> Yes, I heard him say all these things on various boots and even if (that's a
> BIG "if") he knew these were being recorded, in no way did he believe RCA
> would release these - and they didn't to this day. How could Elvis have
> known the numerous tapes, reels etc that would be stolen and made available
> by the bootleggers to the public ? Now with the filming of "Elvis On Tour"
> as was the original discussion .. Elvis KNEW the film would be used on an
> official release. He KNEW they were filming EVERYTHING so why did he even
> risk it with the comments he made ?
>
> Daniel
Stephen Leacock
release of this is Elvis then later dubbed out for the home video release of the
film.
Jason~~
Daniel wrote:
> "H" wrote in message ...
>
> > Daniel, there are bootleg recordings of him saying worse than that. There
> is
> > a recording from 1969 and he was not drugged up then . And there was
> > nothing wrong with talking like that. He was acting like a normal guy.
>
> Was that a vegas concert you're talking about that he did in '69 ? I've
> heard many soundboards and they don't even come close to what you hear in
> rehearsals. I've also heard outtakes and they are all worse than anything he
> said on stage or in front of the public - I'd even say the boots "Night
> Fever In Vegas" and "Desert Storm" were all done in context and his use of
> profanity was justified and understandable and in a way very entertaining.
> But in rehearsals and on outtakes, it's a different story .. but still
> entertaining :)
>
> < What
> > guy hasn't talked like that at one time or another? Elvis was not always
> the
> > gentlemen he appeared to be in interviews and in public.
>
> That's not my intention to say that Elvis was an angel. He was all too human
> and I know that. Elvis was 99.9 % a gentleman in public and always tried his
> best to show off his best side but in private he was just like any of us -
> very human.
>
> > And it wasn't
> > because of the drugs. It was because he was human. Anyway's, Elvis knew it
> > wouldn't be included in "Elvis On Tour" and it wasn't.
>
> Yes, it was. In the original "Elvis On Tour", that "great head" comment was
> included only to be edited out later on for "This is Elvis". And yes it was
> partly due to the disinhibiting effects of drugs.
Stephen Leacock
Jason~~
Daniel wrote:
> "Molly Quinn" wrote in message ...
>
> > I wholeheartedly agree with you. Elvis was a guy who talked "guy talk"
> > about his sexual conquests, particularly one-night stands. All those
> > guys hanging around him probably lived vicariously through him. Not
> > that I don't think he couldn't be the perfect Southern gentlemen when
> > need be.
>
> With due respect .. this is not the point. Of course Elvis talked "guy
> talk", mosty in private or when he thought no one else but those around him
> would hear like in rehearsals, his home(s), at the movies etc .. but the
> issue here is and I again quote from my earlier post: "Now with the filming
Stephen Leacock
Jason~~
JimmyDeanAngel
it. ha ha he said it or oh no he didnt , can we just move on? thanks
:)
~TCB