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Jan 18, 2002, 5:02:04 PM1/18/02
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The following women have been linked romantically with Elvis. Some of
them, as very good friends, He discussed the Bible with and some of them
knew him In a biblical way. Some were flirtations and nothing more and
some were long term, serious girlfriends.......

01. Carol Ballard - In Tupelo, Elvis was nine
02. Eloise Bedford - Childhood girlfriend
03. Magdelen Morgan - In Tupelo
04. Betty McMann - 1950-51
05. Billie Wardlaw - Lauderdale Courts girlfriend 06. Regis Wilson
Vaughan - Prom date - 1953
07. Tammy Young - High School
08. Dixie Locke - Elvis' Memphis sweetheart
09. Patty Philpot - Memphis, mid 1950's
10. Anita Carter - Singer with the Carter Sisters
11. Barbara Pittman - recorded at Sun Records
12. Sharon Wiley - mid 1950's
13. Carolyn Bradshaw - Hayride Folk singer
14. June Juanico - serious early girlfriend.
15. Wanda Jackson - Decca recording artist
16. Marilyn Evans - Las Vegas showgirl
17. Judy Spreckles - spring 1957
18. Andrea June Stevens - Won a date
19. Joan Blackman - Blue Hawaii / Kid Galahad 20. Diana Dors - British
sex kitten
21. Natalie Wood - Actress
22. Kate Wheeler - 1956
23. Joan Brasher - former miss Nevada
24. Kitty Dolan - Tropicana singer
25. Sandy Preston - Dated Elvis In Vegas
26. Jayne Mansfield - actress - fall 1956
27. Yvonne Lime - actress - 1956-57
28. Anita Wood - Serious Memphis girlfriend
29. Rita Moreno - actress - 1957
30. Venetia Stevenson - dated In 1957-58
31. Mamie Van Doren - 1957
32. Tempest Storm - stripper - 1957
33. Dottie Harmony - Las Vegas showgirl
34. Anne Neyland - Dated - Jailhouse Rock
35. Sherry Jackson - Actress
36. June Wilbank - 1958
37. Lillian Portnoy - She kissed Elvis
38. Barbara Hearn - Actress from Loving You
39. Dolores Hart - Loving You / King Creole
40. Jeanne Carmen - Actress - 1958
41. Carol Connors - Singer
42. Bobbie Gentry - Singer
43. Heli Priemel - Dated In Germany
44. Siegrid Schutz - Germany In 1959
45. Vera Tschechowa - Dated In Munich
46. Margrit Buergin - Secretary In Germany
47. Anjelika Zehetbauer - Nightclub dancer
48. Jane Clarke - Lido Club dancer
49. Nancy Parker - Lido Club dancer
50. Sue Anderson - Germany
51. Patti Parry - Memphis Mafia member
52. Kathy Gabriel - Miss Ohio - 1958
53. Hannah Melcher - Miss Austria
54. Carolyn Frazer - girlfriend - march 1960
55. Juliet Prowse - GI Blues co-star
56. Bonnie Bunkley - Dated In spring 1960
57. Nancy Sharp - Flaming Star assistant
58. Sandy Ferra - Dated In 1960
59. Connie Stevens - Actress - 1961
60. Hope Hathaway - Chorus girl, 1961
61. Yvonne Craig - Kissin Cousin co-star
62. Cheryl Holfridge - Starlet
63. Sharon Hugueny - Dated In 1963
64. Shelley Fabares - co-starred In 3 films
65. Vicky Meyerlink - Dated during Clamake
66. Jackie Deshannon - singer songwriter
67. Barbara Bonner - Dated In the 1960's
68. Ann Margret - Viva Las Vegas co-star
69. Deborah Walley - Spinout co-star
70. Cybill Shepherd - Actress
71. Joyce Bova - met In 1969
72. Barbara Leigh - 1970
73. Vicki Peters - Dated In 1971
74. Carol Connor - songwriter
75. Sandra Zancan - Las Vegas showgirl
76. Linda Thompson - long time girlfriend
77. Ann Pennington - 1974
78. Diane Goodman - Miss Georgia, 1972
79. Mindi Miller - model - 1975-76
80. Jo Cathy Brownlee - Footbal team hostess
81. Mallessa Blackwood - dated
82. Ann Helm - Follow That Dream co-star
83. Nancy Sinatra - Speedway co-star
84. Tina Louise - Actress
85. Sheila Ryan - Dated Elvis In 1974
86. Piper Laurie - Actress
87. Tuesday Weld - Co-star romance
88. KathyWestmoreland - Toured with Elvis
89. Aicia Kerwin - 1977 - Bank teller
90. Ginger Alden - Elvis' last girlfriend.
91. Priscilla Presley - first met while In Germany, and later Elvis'
wife. Priscilla's nicknames were "Beau", "Cilla", "Priscilla-illa"
http://greggers.granitecity.com/elvis/women/index.html


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Suzie Q

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Jan 18, 2002, 5:49:54 PM1/18/02
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Holy Jesus, that's quite a list. I'm sure it's incomplete, too.

Note that Elvis never dated Kay (not Kate) Wheeler in 1956. He just made
a pass at her (see "Growing Up With The Memphis Flash" by
Wheeler/Harbinson).

Also Barbara Hearn wasn't an "actress from Loving You" but a girlfriend
from Memphis. She can be seen in "Elvis '56," the 1979 photo journal by
Al Wertheimer. She also made the gold lame vest Elvis wore on his Jan'57
Ed Sullivan appearance.

Suzie Q
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Bill Burk

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Jan 18, 2002, 6:50:18 PM1/18/02
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Re: Elvis' women.

Looks like you might be about 600 short here, but a good start.

Add to list: Lisa Watts, a Memphis bank teller, May-August 1977.

007

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Bill E. Burk
Publisher, Elvis World Magazine


Walter Gulick

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Jan 18, 2002, 11:19:08 PM1/18/02
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I kind of like Joan Blackman myself.


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A36K49

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Jan 18, 2002, 11:18:46 PM1/18/02
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Add one more ; Lucy de Barbin/ book
Are you lonesome tonight? ???

Bill Burk

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Jan 18, 2002, 11:30:58 PM1/18/02
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>> Add one more ; Lucy de Barbin/ book
Are you lonesome tonight? ??? >>

Subtract one.

We're not counting BS artists here.

chuck

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Jan 19, 2002, 12:31:41 AM1/19/02
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Maybe I just missed seeing it, but what about Susan Henning, mermaid
in Live a Little, Love a Little and the blonde in the bordello scene
in the '68 Special. She slept on a rollaway bed with Elvis right on
the set during the filming of the special, and when Elvis is sitting
down looking off to his left, it's her he's looking at. Also Hope
Lange. We interviewed her and although she mentioned cooking a
southern meal for Elvis (a first for her), she never revealed they had
been lovers; Joe Esposito did.

H

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Jan 19, 2002, 3:30:58 AM1/19/02
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He apparently a had a fling with Jane Elliot during "Change Of Habit".

.H.

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chuck

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Jan 19, 2002, 12:43:10 AM1/19/02
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Michelle Phillips of the Mamas and the Papas, mid-70's.

chuck

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Jan 19, 2002, 12:45:27 AM1/19/02
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Barbara Hearn - with Elvis during his 1956 Tupelo concert; worked at
the Commercial Appeal later on, right 007?

chuck

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Jan 19, 2002, 12:51:23 AM1/19/02
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Diana Von Welanetz (married name; I'd have to look up her maiden
name); met Elvis in Germany. Had never heard of her until I saw a
write-up in the local paper with photos; she and her husband Paul are
cookbook authors.

chuck

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Jan 19, 2002, 12:54:45 AM1/19/02
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Maybe Elvis did date Jeanne Carmen, she sure was pretty, but I
wouldn't put any money on it unless somebody can verify. What a
noncredible storyteller (re: Marilyn Monroe).

chuck

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Jan 19, 2002, 1:52:34 AM1/19/02
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Janie Wilbanks - another George Klein find - the pretty girl Elvis
kissed from the train window and who later visited Elvis in Germany.
"She's going to stay here a long while," Elvis told Elisabeth
Stefaniak. Elisabeth was the young girl in Germany who Elvis dated,
then employed as a secretary living in the house in Germany, and later
brought back to Memphis to work for him. With Grandma Presley's
blessing, secretly dated Rex Mansfield in Germany, then married him on
returning to the U.S.

chuck

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Jan 19, 2002, 1:53:38 AM1/19/02
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Only because she's a friend of mine who Elvis kissed and wouldn't want
to be left out: Betty Grant.

chuck

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Jan 19, 2002, 2:18:57 AM1/19/02
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I have a request:

Did anyone ever learn the name of Elvis' date who Alfred Wertheimer
photographed sticking her tongue out at Elvis in the stairwell prior
to his going onstage? The one who Elvis was trying to get close to but
she kept backing up, finally sticking her tongue out at him for
trying? One of my favorite photos.

Funny story Wertheimer told me: Someone asked Wertheimer for
permission to use that photograph as a poster to promote their
Broadway show. He said, "Yes, but what does that have to do with
Elvis?" (Nothing; they just liked it).

Later on Wertheimer saw that poster in the poster bin at a Manhattan
store and exclaimed, "That's my photograph!" The clerk looked at him
quizzically and asked, "What does that have to do with Elvis?" LOL!

Also, when they enlarged photos of Elvis to project stage size on that
touring production with the 3 Elvis impersonators, one for each stage
of his life, the producers had the work done at a New York photography
firm called Cinergy Corporation. They had NO idea that it was owned by
Alfred Wertheimer, or even who he was.

Priscilla came to the opening show and brought her parents and Jerry
Schilling.

LiVi...@prodigy.net

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Jan 19, 2002, 5:37:25 AM1/19/02
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I've always loved that picture. good informative post. Well done Chuck.


Livia in Illinois

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Bill Burk

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>> Barbara Hearn - with Elvis during his 1956 Tupelo concert; worked at
the Commercial Appeal later on, right 007? >>

No, Barbara never worked at either newspaper; though was strongly tied with
Bob Johnson of our (P-S) staff. Barbara worked as a staff aid to Sen. Estes
Kefauver.

Scott

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Jan 19, 2002, 12:21:59 PM1/19/02
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Add...

Sheila Ryan in 1975. She later married James Caan.

And, fyi, Venetia Stevenson married one of the Everly Brothers.

Scott

chuck

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Jan 19, 2002, 1:16:59 PM1/19/02
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Singer Bobbie Gentry (Ode to Billy Jo) who later married Bill Harrah - mid-70s?

chuck

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a36...@aol.com (A36K49) wrote in message news:<20020118231846...@mb-ci.aol.com>...

> Add one more ; Lucy de Barbin/ book
> Are you lonesome tonight? ???

Why? It wasn't true, even though I know someone who LOVED that book,
and she was very pretty.

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Ed

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Jan 19, 2002, 2:02:53 PM1/19/02
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You might be interested in the web site called "Elvis' Women... In the
Movies that is"

Here is the URL:

http://greggers.granitecity.com/elvis/women/

Ed

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Devildog1982z

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Jan 19, 2002, 4:01:56 PM1/19/02
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>Subject: Re: Elvis' Women - Wertheimer "the kiss"
>From: clcran...@aol.com (chuck)

>Wertheimer made another observation I found interesting: "Elvis looked
>more like his father in his younger years, but as he got older he
>looked more like his Mother." Had never thought about it before.
>Anyone agree or disagree?
>

I always thought he had Gladys' eyes.

chuck

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Jan 19, 2002, 4:07:22 PM1/19/02
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A few more comments from Hope Lange:

Hope says she did NOT want to work with Elvis and threatened to go on
suspension rather than do the film. But Philip Dunne, the director,
convinced her that Elvis was a good actor and a fine person.

She was mortified to ride in the car with Elvis and see that he kept a
gun in the glove compartment. She thought it reflected his fear for
his life. She obviously never knew that his love for guns was a
lifelong hobby. So I told her and relieved her mind.

He missed grits and southern food, so she cooked a southern meal for
him, a first for her, and said he loved it.

She also commented that many of the moves he made in his performances
that looked "throwaway" and spontaneous were actually the product of
diligent practice. I didn't ask if he rehearsed those moves on our off
the set (of Wild in the Country), but she was impressed by them.

Now that I know (from Joe E.) that they were lovers, someone should
interview her in more depth. Still have her phone numbers. We still
have Philip Dunne's interview on tape; he's dead now, as is John
Ireland.

Chuck

H

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Jan 19, 2002, 7:13:21 PM1/19/02
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Just saw the E true hollywood story on The Beverly Hillbillies. It talked
about the relationship Donna douglas had with Elvis during frankie and
Johnny. She did not realize that Elvis would romance ladies he worked with.
So she thought he was really interested in her. When she realized that was
not the case she went into a depression. People that worked with her said
when she returned to the set of the hillbillies, she was miserable. All
donna said was that things were tough for her after the filming of the
movie.

.H.

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chuck

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Jan 19, 2002, 7:24:28 PM1/19/02
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> No, Barbara never worked at either newspaper; though was strongly tied with
> Bob Johnson of our (P-S) staff.

Okay, thanks. A former speechwriter for Jimmy Carter whose wife was an
Elvis fan said he'd WORKED WITH Barbara at a Memphis newspaper. Wonder
how he could have thought he did. How strongly was she "tied" to Bob
Johnson of the Press-Scimitar?

But that was a nice shiny gold vest she sewed for Elvis! When he was
shown "waist-up" at the Ed Sullivan show it sparkled nicely.

Angeline

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Jan 19, 2002, 7:37:09 PM1/19/02
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Her name was Dorthy Harmony, she was a showgirl that Elvis met in the summer
of '56 (possibly New York?) she visited Elvis the following Christmas -
here's a link to a couple of photos:
http://www.geocities.com/angs02/DorthyHarmony.html?1011486650980
I wonder what ever became of her.

Angeline

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Dawn

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>Subject: Re: Elvis' Women - Wertheimer "the kiss"
>From: clcran...@aol.com (chuck)
>Date: 1/19/02 2:57 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <b24f71c5.02011...@posting.google.com>

>
>Wertheimer made another observation I found interesting: "Elvis looked
>more like his father in his younger years, but as he got older he
>looked more like his Mother." Had never thought about it before.
>Anyone agree or disagree?
>
>

I'll agree with that.
Elvis had his Dad's facial bone structure and nose.
But as he got older and heavier he looked so much like his Mama it was spooky,
right down to the tortured expression she had in her eyes.
I would love to see a picture of Gladys when she was at her very thinnest. I'll
bet she was a beauty!

Dawn



Angeline

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Jan 19, 2002, 8:20:50 PM1/19/02
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Here's an early pic of her and Vernon. I don't think she ever was really
"thin", but Elvis definitely had her eyes and brow.

http://www.geocities.com/angs02/vernonandgladys.html?1011489461360


"Dawn" <freed...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message > I'll agree with that.

Dawn

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>Subject: Re: Elvis' Women - Wertheimer "the kiss"
>From: "Angeline" an...@hiwaay.net
>Date: 1/19/02 7:20 PM Central Standard Time
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>
>Here's an early pic of her and Vernon. I don't think she ever was really
>"thin", but Elvis definitely had her eyes and brow.
>
>http://www.geocities.com/angs02/vernonandgladys.html?1011489461360
>
>


That was a great picture.
Vernon's smile looks familiar!
How 'bout the way he has his shirt unbuttoned?

Dawn

Angeline

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Jan 19, 2002, 8:57:58 PM1/19/02
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It's like the genetics hit just perfectly where Elvis got the best of both
of their features and some other stuff thrown in there from somewhere else.
Neither of his parents had the full lips, the charisma - and that
mischievous spark of fire that he had in his eyes...
*sigh*.

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GoodLuckCharm77

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>>http://www.geocities.com/angs02/vernonandgladys.html?1011489461360
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>That was a great picture.
>Vernon's smile looks familiar!
>How 'bout the way he has his shirt unbuttoned?
>
>Dawn


Omg, you are sooo right. That pic is really great..what a perfect example of a
child being the complete combination of his parents. Cover part of Vernon's
face, and look at his mouth and chin..it's ELVIS!! The facial bone structure
as well. And he had Glady's coloring and expressive eyes. That was really nice
to look at.

GoodLuckCharm77

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> And he had Glady's coloring and expressive eyes. That was really nice
>to look at.

I meant Gladys' coloring...that's it for me tonight..my typing is horrible.

Angeline

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It's scanned from the "Elvis - Day By Day" book, (Peter Guralnick and Ernst
Jorgensen) that's one book that no one should be without. Probably has many
errors, but considering the enormous undertaking a book like that would be -
they did a marvelous job.

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Angeline

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**HEY**- - WATCH THAT PUNCTUATION, YOUNG LADY!!!! LOL!!


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Dawn

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>Subject: Re: Elvis' Women - Wertheimer "the kiss"
>From: goodluc...@aol.com (GoodLuckCharm77)
>Date: 1/19/02 8:04 PM Central Standard Time
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>
>> And he had Glady's coloring and expressive eyes. That was really nice
>>to look at.
>
>I meant Gladys' coloring...that's it for me tonight..my typing is horrible.
>
>


Nah.
It's when people continually mis-spell and use poor grammar and never even
notice or care to proof read.
That's horrible!

Dawn


Bill Burk

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Jan 19, 2002, 9:28:58 PM1/19/02
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>> It's scanned from the "Elvis - Day By Day" book, (Peter Guralnick and
Ernst
Jorgensen) that's one book that no one should be without. Probably has many
errors, but considering the enormous undertaking a book like that would be -
they did a marvelous job. >>

Enormous undertaking??

First, you get Lee Cotton's "Day by Day" book and add a couple of new
entries.

Enormous???

007


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"H" <D...@netcom.ca> wrote in message news:<Dsl28.697$EI....@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>...

> Just saw the E true hollywood story on The Beverly Hillbillies. It talked
> about the relationship Donna douglas had with Elvis during frankie and
> Johnny. She did not realize that Elvis would romance ladies he worked with.
> So she thought he was really interested in her. When she realized that was
> not the case she went into a depression. People that worked with her said
> when she returned to the set of the hillbillies, she was miserable. All
> donna said was that things were tough for her after the filming of the
> movie.

I found this interesting because I inferred from an earlier interview
of hers that she was just a reading buddy, not a lover.

Susan Henning, the mermaid and bordello-scene blonde, was both a
Bible-reading partner AND a hot lover, so I should have figured that
was true for Donna as well. Thanks for enlighting me.

Chuck

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Broadwaychris

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Jan 19, 2002, 10:13:43 PM1/19/02
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George Klein displayed quite a 'pimp hand'.

Angeline

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LOL!! Well, Ok, it was a major undertaking for whoever put all that
information together- but didn't they gather the photos together...
SOMETHING?

Angeline

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Can somebody tell me when Elvis actually met Jayne Mansfield ?? . I have
a friend that never knew about It, and other than what I read and
posted, I was also surprised that they had met. Does anybody have any
other Information about It ??


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chuck

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"Angeline" <an...@hiwaay.net> wrote in message news:<u4k41u9...@corp.supernews.com>...

> Her name was Dorthy Harmony, she was a showgirl that Elvis met in the summer
> of '56 (possibly New York?) she visited Elvis the following Christmas -

Are you sure of that, Angeline? I looked and looked for Dottie for
Peter's Last Train to Memphis and never found her. Also, Wertheimer
photographed Elvis in January, 1956, didn't he, although again later,
come to think of it, and Dottie spent Christmas 1957 with Elvis and
his parents at Graceland, just before entering the Army.

I'm still confused. If I'm wrong about it not being Dottie, please
correct me. Seems odd that a showgirl could have been shy enough to
back up (all the way to the railing) when Elvis was trying to get
close to her.

Thanks for answering, though. I loved the photos in the links you
posted.

Chuck

KellyMonro

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Also 1of the Stanley's wives he did I guess...she can be added to the list..

Be good,

KM.

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Wertheimer made another observation I found interesting: "Elvis looked
more like his father in his younger years, but as he got older he looked
more like his Mother." Had never thought about it before. Anyone agree
or disagree?
========================================= I would agree that Elvis
resembled his mother alot after he had gained some weight. I recall the
home movies of her taken as Elvis was leaving for Germany, and I thought
she looked alot like the Elvis of the latter 1970's. I never thought
that he looked much like his father.


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chuck

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Mike, this is the first I've heard of it.

Could be true, but I'm wondering if they aren't confusing her with
Mamie Van Doren? Seems to me Jayne was married, not that Mamie Van
Doren wasn't. Anyway, it will be interesting to hear what our resident
scholars have to say about this one.

Chuck

suave harv

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> Could be true, but I'm wondering if they aren't confusing her with
> Mamie Van Doren? Seems to me Jayne was married, not that Mamie Van
> Doren wasn't. Anyway, it will be interesting to hear what our resident
> scholars have to say about this one.
>
> Chuck

Here's the story I've heard.

The producers of 'The Girl Can't Help It' sent Mansfield to meet Elvis
during filming. The idea was, to try to get Elvis to sing a song in the
flick. Mansfield was told to use whatever means necessary to persuade Elvis.
Elvis was supposed to have declined her offers. I can't remember where I
heard this, and there could possibly be no truth about it whatsoever,
but that's the tale.

Dawn

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>From: "suave harv" ha...@SPAMLESScassiopeia95.freeserve.co.uk
>Date: 1/20/02 6:25 AM Central Standard Time
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Just checked the book "Elvis and the Stars" and there's no picture or article.
No doubt there are many stars Elvis met that aren't included in that book
though.

Dawn



Dawn

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>From: "wxcvbn2" wxc...@wanadoo.fr
>Date: 1/20/02 5:03 AM Central Standard Time
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>
>Whatever the truth is or isn't, you really don't know how to behave like a
>gentleman Mr Burk.
>JeanH
>
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>> >> Add one more ; Lucy de Barbin/ book
>> Are you lonesome tonight? ??? >>
>>
>> Subtract one.
>>
>> We're not counting BS artists here.
>>
>> 007

>>
>> ******************
>> Bill E. Burk
>> Publisher, Elvis World Magazine
>>

Jean H,
I don't have a clue as to who YOU are but I do happen to know
Mr. Burk. He is a Gentleman in every sense of the word.
Just because he has the integrity to call a spade a spade
doesn't make him a cad!

Dawn

Angeline

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Jan 20, 2002, 12:11:05 PM1/20/02
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No, I'm not absolutely sure - that's just what I read somewhere.
But I'm sure even a showgirl can act shy if that's what she knows her fellow
likes! : )


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mel williams

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I don't understand about BS artists. I have read her book and I think she is
genuine.

Mel.
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chuck

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Hello Mike,

Good observations. He didn't remind me much of his father, either, but
after seeing that photo of them as young lovers, I could see more
similarities. He got his height from his father, but Patsy Presley
told me Gladys was about 5'7", which at that time was the upper limit
of medium height; if a female was more than 5'7", she was considered
tall.

Chuck

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Bill Burk

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>> Whatever the truth is or isn't, you really don't know how to behave like
a
gentleman Mr Burk.
JeanH >>

>> I don't understand about BS artists. I have read her book and I think
she is
genuine. Mel. >>

First, Mel . . . then you would probably truly enjoy "Cousin" Earl
Greenwood's book, "The Boy Who Dared to be King." I mean, it's
well-written, if you choose to disregard the FACT that Earl Greenwood is not
now, and never has been, a cousin of Elvis' ... and that I found
"misrepresentations" (is that a "genlemanly" term?) on 185 of it's pages.

2nd, Jean Whoever . . . as Dawn and the 5800+ other readers of my ELVIS
WORLD magazine have come to know over the past 16 years of publishing .. I
am what was once called "a slave to the Truth" (an "accusation" I can
handle, easily) ... and when someone writes a bunch of BS about Elvis (or
anyone, for that matter), I am there on the spot to shine the spotlight on
it. Lucy's book was a BE-YOU-TI-FUL love story. Only problem was, it
wasn't true in the smallest sense.

I spelled it all out in an EW issue just after her book was released; just
as I did with "Cousin" Earl's book.

And will do so with any other future book that chooses to stray from the
Truth.

And I will apologize to no one for sticking to the Truth. Maybe that's not
gentlemanly not to apologize when there is nothing to apologize for.

007


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Bill Burk

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Chuck: >> Okay, thanks. A former speechwriter for Jimmy Carter whose wife
was an
Elvis fan said he'd WORKED WITH Barbara at a Memphis newspaper. Wonder
how he could have thought he did. How strongly was she "tied" to Bob
Johnson of the Press-Scimitar? >>

Bob was a very close friend to Elvis in the beginning (via Bob's friendship
with Sam Phillips) and Bob published a magazine, titled either "16" or "17,"
out of New York ... and Barbara was a featured columnist in that magazine.
She wrote stories and answered questions about Elvis. The magazine didn't
last all that long. Not more than 2 years, for certain ... so if anybody
has a copy of it, hold on. It's a collectible.

Bob died in December 1973 and I replaced him as the paper's featured daily
columnist; in addition to continuing my nationally-syndicated "Groovin'"
column about recording stars.

The paper went belly up 1 November 1983 and I began ELVIS WORLD in 1986
after a while of being fund-raiser and PR consultant for the Elvis Presley
Memorial Trauma Center here in Memphis.

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Are you related to her? No other explanation for your opinion on her.

.H.

mel williams wrote in message ...

Dawn

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>Subject: Re: Elvis
>From: "wxcvbn2" wxc...@wanadoo.fr
>Date: 1/20/02 5:13 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: <a2fin2$f26$1...@wanadoo.fr>

>
>
>"Bill Burk" <beb...@worldnet.att.net> a écrit dans le message news:
>JGG28.313332$WW.14...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>[...] ... and when someone writes a bunch of BS about Elvis (or

>> anyone, for that matter), I am there on the spot to shine the spotlight on
>> it. Lucy's book.(...) Only problem was, it

>> wasn't true in the smallest sense.
>> I spelled it all out in an EW issue just after her book was released;
>
>
>In that case, BS such as what, Mr Burk?
>JH
>
>

JH,
Being the gentleman that Bill is, I think he's trying to tell you
that Miss Lucy had a very vivid imagination.
Could this be Desiree?

Dawn
imagination.


Dawn

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>Subject: Re: Elvis
>From: freed...@aol.comnospam (Dawn)
>Date: 1/20/02 7:06 PM

>JH,
> Being the gentleman that Bill is, I think he's trying to tell you
>that Miss Lucy had a very vivid imagination.
> Could this be Desiree?
>
>Dawn
> imagination.
>
>


Hmm, I have no idea how that word got down there with my signature.

Dawn



chuck

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> Here's the story I've heard.
>
> The producers of 'The Girl Can't Help It' sent Mansfield to meet Elvis
> during filming. The idea was, to try to get Elvis to sing a song in the
> flick. Mansfield was told to use whatever means necessary to persuade Elvis.
> Elvis was supposed to have declined her offers. I can't remember where I
> heard this, and there could possibly be no truth about it whatsoever,
> but that's the tale.


Thanks Suave Harv,

If that's the case, then at least one of the guys ought to know
something about it. . . either they would have been there, or would
have heard about it from The Boss.

Any guys here? Marty?

Chuck

LiVi...@prodigy.net

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I agree he definitely looked more like his father in his young years. Thanks
to Angeline for the picture of young Gladys and Vernon. I had never seen
that one before.

Livia in Illinois

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> Wertheimer made another observation I found interesting: "Elvis looked
> more like his father in his younger years, but as he got older he
> looked more like his Mother." Had never thought about it before.
> Anyone agree or disagree?


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Marty

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Never heard that one before from Elvis or any of the guys.

No connection to Elvis was ever mentioned by Elvis or anyone else
whenever her name was brifly brought up in the group including Elvis.

Marty
> Chuck

CBunch1070

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>Susan Henning, the mermaid and bordello-scene blonde, was both a
>Bible-reading partner AND a hot lover, so I should have figured that
>was true for Donna as well. Thanks for enlighting me.

"There's never been a woman who could make me weak inside...and give me what I
needed like Susan when she tried." :)
Chuck

Luuk Bonthond

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This is supposed to have happened before Elvis went into the Army i.e. 1958.
Marty left his wife and kids to be with Elvis (according to Marty's own
words) in 1960.
regards,
Luuk Bonthond


chuck

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> This is supposed to have happened before Elvis went into the Army i.e. 1958.
> Marty left his wife and kids to be with Elvis (according to Marty's own
> words) in 1960.
> regards,
> Luuk Bonthond

Well, then, where is Cliff Gleaves? Did the rumors he was dead ever
turn out to be true? I talked to his own brother in Florida, I think,
when we were looking for him for a book, and he hadn't seen Cliff in
years. Even I had seen him more recently than that in Memphis.

But don't you think Marty's statement that Elvis didn't say anything
when others brought up her name, and Elvis himself brought up her
name, is an indication that it didn't happen?

There's so much we'll never know!

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Poor little Lukey, he's so obsessed with his feeble attempts to
discredit me he still posts uninformed, false crap. I was around
Elvis and the guys beginning in 1957, right after i got out of the
army and Elvis moved to Graceland. I didn't go to work for him until
he asked me to after he returned from the army.

As for Cliff, he has been in a nursing home outside of Jackson,
Tennessee for a few years. he is originally from Jackson, as was
Anita Wood.

Marty

chuck

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> As for Cliff, he has been in a nursing home outside of Jackson,
> Tennessee for a few years. he is originally from Jackson, as was
> Anita Wood.
>
> Marty


Thanks.

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