MIKE++TCB
Note that Elvis never dated Kay (not Kate) Wheeler in 1956. He just made
a pass at her (see "Growing Up With The Memphis Flash" by
Wheeler/Harbinson).
Also Barbara Hearn wasn't an "actress from Loving You" but a girlfriend
from Memphis. She can be seen in "Elvis '56," the 1979 photo journal by
Al Wertheimer. She also made the gold lame vest Elvis wore on his Jan'57
Ed Sullivan appearance.
Suzie Q
Your Friend
Looks like you might be about 600 short here, but a good start.
Add to list: Lisa Watts, a Memphis bank teller, May-August 1977.
007
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Bill E. Burk
Publisher, Elvis World Magazine
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Subtract one.
We're not counting BS artists here.
Maybe I just missed seeing it, but what about Susan Henning, mermaid
in Live a Little, Love a Little and the blonde in the bordello scene
in the '68 Special. She slept on a rollaway bed with Elvis right on
the set during the filming of the special, and when Elvis is sitting
down looking off to his left, it's her he's looking at. Also Hope
Lange. We interviewed her and although she mentioned cooking a
southern meal for Elvis (a first for her), she never revealed they had
been lovers; Joe Esposito did.
.H.
chuck wrote in message ...
Did anyone ever learn the name of Elvis' date who Alfred Wertheimer
photographed sticking her tongue out at Elvis in the stairwell prior
to his going onstage? The one who Elvis was trying to get close to but
she kept backing up, finally sticking her tongue out at him for
trying? One of my favorite photos.
Funny story Wertheimer told me: Someone asked Wertheimer for
permission to use that photograph as a poster to promote their
Broadway show. He said, "Yes, but what does that have to do with
Elvis?" (Nothing; they just liked it).
Later on Wertheimer saw that poster in the poster bin at a Manhattan
store and exclaimed, "That's my photograph!" The clerk looked at him
quizzically and asked, "What does that have to do with Elvis?" LOL!
Also, when they enlarged photos of Elvis to project stage size on that
touring production with the 3 Elvis impersonators, one for each stage
of his life, the producers had the work done at a New York photography
firm called Cinergy Corporation. They had NO idea that it was owned by
Alfred Wertheimer, or even who he was.
Priscilla came to the opening show and brought her parents and Jerry
Schilling.
Livia in Illinois
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No, Barbara never worked at either newspaper; though was strongly tied with
Bob Johnson of our (P-S) staff. Barbara worked as a staff aid to Sen. Estes
Kefauver.
Sheila Ryan in 1975. She later married James Caan.
And, fyi, Venetia Stevenson married one of the Everly Brothers.
Scott
Why? It wasn't true, even though I know someone who LOVED that book,
and she was very pretty.
Here is the URL:
http://greggers.granitecity.com/elvis/women/
Ed
>Wertheimer made another observation I found interesting: "Elvis looked
>more like his father in his younger years, but as he got older he
>looked more like his Mother." Had never thought about it before.
>Anyone agree or disagree?
>
I always thought he had Gladys' eyes.
Hope says she did NOT want to work with Elvis and threatened to go on
suspension rather than do the film. But Philip Dunne, the director,
convinced her that Elvis was a good actor and a fine person.
She was mortified to ride in the car with Elvis and see that he kept a
gun in the glove compartment. She thought it reflected his fear for
his life. She obviously never knew that his love for guns was a
lifelong hobby. So I told her and relieved her mind.
He missed grits and southern food, so she cooked a southern meal for
him, a first for her, and said he loved it.
She also commented that many of the moves he made in his performances
that looked "throwaway" and spontaneous were actually the product of
diligent practice. I didn't ask if he rehearsed those moves on our off
the set (of Wild in the Country), but she was impressed by them.
Now that I know (from Joe E.) that they were lovers, someone should
interview her in more depth. Still have her phone numbers. We still
have Philip Dunne's interview on tape; he's dead now, as is John
Ireland.
Chuck
.H.
chuck wrote in message ...
Okay, thanks. A former speechwriter for Jimmy Carter whose wife was an
Elvis fan said he'd WORKED WITH Barbara at a Memphis newspaper. Wonder
how he could have thought he did. How strongly was she "tied" to Bob
Johnson of the Press-Scimitar?
But that was a nice shiny gold vest she sewed for Elvis! When he was
shown "waist-up" at the Ed Sullivan show it sparkled nicely.
Angeline
"chuck" <clcran...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I'll agree with that.
Elvis had his Dad's facial bone structure and nose.
But as he got older and heavier he looked so much like his Mama it was spooky,
right down to the tortured expression she had in her eyes.
I would love to see a picture of Gladys when she was at her very thinnest. I'll
bet she was a beauty!
Dawn
http://www.geocities.com/angs02/vernonandgladys.html?1011489461360
"Dawn" <freed...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message > I'll agree with that.
That was a great picture.
Vernon's smile looks familiar!
How 'bout the way he has his shirt unbuttoned?
Dawn
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Omg, you are sooo right. That pic is really great..what a perfect example of a
child being the complete combination of his parents. Cover part of Vernon's
face, and look at his mouth and chin..it's ELVIS!! The facial bone structure
as well. And he had Glady's coloring and expressive eyes. That was really nice
to look at.
I meant Gladys' coloring...that's it for me tonight..my typing is horrible.
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Nah.
It's when people continually mis-spell and use poor grammar and never even
notice or care to proof read.
That's horrible!
Dawn
Enormous undertaking??
First, you get Lee Cotton's "Day by Day" book and add a couple of new
entries.
Enormous???
007
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I found this interesting because I inferred from an earlier interview
of hers that she was just a reading buddy, not a lover.
Susan Henning, the mermaid and bordello-scene blonde, was both a
Bible-reading partner AND a hot lover, so I should have figured that
was true for Donna as well. Thanks for enlighting me.
Chuck
Angeline
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MIKE++TCB
Are you sure of that, Angeline? I looked and looked for Dottie for
Peter's Last Train to Memphis and never found her. Also, Wertheimer
photographed Elvis in January, 1956, didn't he, although again later,
come to think of it, and Dottie spent Christmas 1957 with Elvis and
his parents at Graceland, just before entering the Army.
I'm still confused. If I'm wrong about it not being Dottie, please
correct me. Seems odd that a showgirl could have been shy enough to
back up (all the way to the railing) when Elvis was trying to get
close to her.
Thanks for answering, though. I loved the photos in the links you
posted.
Chuck
Be good,
KM.
MIKE++TCB
Mike, this is the first I've heard of it.
Could be true, but I'm wondering if they aren't confusing her with
Mamie Van Doren? Seems to me Jayne was married, not that Mamie Van
Doren wasn't. Anyway, it will be interesting to hear what our resident
scholars have to say about this one.
Chuck
Here's the story I've heard.
The producers of 'The Girl Can't Help It' sent Mansfield to meet Elvis
during filming. The idea was, to try to get Elvis to sing a song in the
flick. Mansfield was told to use whatever means necessary to persuade Elvis.
Elvis was supposed to have declined her offers. I can't remember where I
heard this, and there could possibly be no truth about it whatsoever,
but that's the tale.
Just checked the book "Elvis and the Stars" and there's no picture or article.
No doubt there are many stars Elvis met that aren't included in that book
though.
Dawn
Jean H,
I don't have a clue as to who YOU are but I do happen to know
Mr. Burk. He is a Gentleman in every sense of the word.
Just because he has the integrity to call a spade a spade
doesn't make him a cad!
Dawn
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Mel.
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Hello Mike,
Good observations. He didn't remind me much of his father, either, but
after seeing that photo of them as young lovers, I could see more
similarities. He got his height from his father, but Patsy Presley
told me Gladys was about 5'7", which at that time was the upper limit
of medium height; if a female was more than 5'7", she was considered
tall.
Chuck
>> I don't understand about BS artists. I have read her book and I think
she is
genuine. Mel. >>
First, Mel . . . then you would probably truly enjoy "Cousin" Earl
Greenwood's book, "The Boy Who Dared to be King." I mean, it's
well-written, if you choose to disregard the FACT that Earl Greenwood is not
now, and never has been, a cousin of Elvis' ... and that I found
"misrepresentations" (is that a "genlemanly" term?) on 185 of it's pages.
2nd, Jean Whoever . . . as Dawn and the 5800+ other readers of my ELVIS
WORLD magazine have come to know over the past 16 years of publishing .. I
am what was once called "a slave to the Truth" (an "accusation" I can
handle, easily) ... and when someone writes a bunch of BS about Elvis (or
anyone, for that matter), I am there on the spot to shine the spotlight on
it. Lucy's book was a BE-YOU-TI-FUL love story. Only problem was, it
wasn't true in the smallest sense.
I spelled it all out in an EW issue just after her book was released; just
as I did with "Cousin" Earl's book.
And will do so with any other future book that chooses to stray from the
Truth.
And I will apologize to no one for sticking to the Truth. Maybe that's not
gentlemanly not to apologize when there is nothing to apologize for.
007
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Bob was a very close friend to Elvis in the beginning (via Bob's friendship
with Sam Phillips) and Bob published a magazine, titled either "16" or "17,"
out of New York ... and Barbara was a featured columnist in that magazine.
She wrote stories and answered questions about Elvis. The magazine didn't
last all that long. Not more than 2 years, for certain ... so if anybody
has a copy of it, hold on. It's a collectible.
Bob died in December 1973 and I replaced him as the paper's featured daily
columnist; in addition to continuing my nationally-syndicated "Groovin'"
column about recording stars.
The paper went belly up 1 November 1983 and I began ELVIS WORLD in 1986
after a while of being fund-raiser and PR consultant for the Elvis Presley
Memorial Trauma Center here in Memphis.
.H.
mel williams wrote in message ...
JH,
Being the gentleman that Bill is, I think he's trying to tell you
that Miss Lucy had a very vivid imagination.
Could this be Desiree?
Dawn
imagination.
>JH,
> Being the gentleman that Bill is, I think he's trying to tell you
>that Miss Lucy had a very vivid imagination.
> Could this be Desiree?
>
>Dawn
> imagination.
>
>
Hmm, I have no idea how that word got down there with my signature.
Dawn
Thanks Suave Harv,
If that's the case, then at least one of the guys ought to know
something about it. . . either they would have been there, or would
have heard about it from The Boss.
Any guys here? Marty?
Chuck
Livia in Illinois
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> Wertheimer made another observation I found interesting: "Elvis looked
> more like his father in his younger years, but as he got older he
> looked more like his Mother." Had never thought about it before.
> Anyone agree or disagree?
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Never heard that one before from Elvis or any of the guys.
No connection to Elvis was ever mentioned by Elvis or anyone else
whenever her name was brifly brought up in the group including Elvis.
Marty
> Chuck
"There's never been a woman who could make me weak inside...and give me what I
needed like Susan when she tried." :)
Chuck
This is supposed to have happened before Elvis went into the Army i.e. 1958.
Marty left his wife and kids to be with Elvis (according to Marty's own
words) in 1960.
regards,
Luuk Bonthond
Well, then, where is Cliff Gleaves? Did the rumors he was dead ever
turn out to be true? I talked to his own brother in Florida, I think,
when we were looking for him for a book, and he hadn't seen Cliff in
years. Even I had seen him more recently than that in Memphis.
But don't you think Marty's statement that Elvis didn't say anything
when others brought up her name, and Elvis himself brought up her
name, is an indication that it didn't happen?
There's so much we'll never know!
Poor little Lukey, he's so obsessed with his feeble attempts to
discredit me he still posts uninformed, false crap. I was around
Elvis and the guys beginning in 1957, right after i got out of the
army and Elvis moved to Graceland. I didn't go to work for him until
he asked me to after he returned from the army.
As for Cliff, he has been in a nursing home outside of Jackson,
Tennessee for a few years. he is originally from Jackson, as was
Anita Wood.
Marty
Thanks.